Adam's death

[Merfish]

How come when he got his powers stolen he died right away, wouldn't his cells just start regenerating at a normal regular rate?

[Alexander III]

Maybe it was his power that preserved his cells all along, don't forget his body is well over 400 years old, I guess the power is gone and nuthing can hold that body longer so thus all cells die rite away.

[FireStorm685]

I agree, his power was the only thing keeping him alive and without it those 400 years caught up to him.

[jimmyolsenblues]

great point. take his powers, he turns to old dust...very cool.

[kp1984]

So much to being immortal. At frist I thought his powers was simular to that guy on smallville back in season 1. He had the abillity to turn people into ash. Think the eposide was reaper

[Lexgirl33]

Man I hope they bring him back. You never know with this show :lol:

[warriorrenegade]

That was cool. Loved how he was begging..."No I can be of service to you...NOOOO!!!"

[loistickyfingerz]

I hated it! Adam was one of my favorites! I don't see him coming back from that though, sadly.

[rocana]

I was kinda hoping Adam and Claire would meet at some point. I'd love to see each others reaction to someone with the same/similiar power. oh well.

[chobee]

I think he might be back... When Ms. Petrelli had her dream at the beginning of the season, the villians she saw were Maury Parkman, Knox, Tracy (or was it Barbara?), and Adam. Kinda curious to how that's gonna work...

[Theshadow129x]

yea but hasnt everything changed based off of that vision? i mean alot of things from the future are changing thanks to the intervention of future peter.

[Dezdmona]

...alot of things from the future are changing thanks to the intervention of future peter.
"The future is always in motion", to borrow a quote from Star Wars...
I think the glimpses of the future we've seen are only possible futures, but not what will ultimately be the future.
Actually, for the most part, I look at them mostly as misdirections, because we know that people are making decisions to act differently based on their knowledge of the "future", which ultimately changes that future.

[silverdragon]

adam's death scene was a brilliant effect....

and i agree his powers was the only thing that was keeping him alive....

[number8]

Very cool death scene, didn't really want him to die though. One of my favorite baddies. :(

[dimefan90]

reminded me of dorian grey.

[Drakaun]

Unless Ma Petrelli's vision was filled with symbolism. If Pa Petrelli absorbs powers perhaps seeing Adam, Barbara(Tracy), Knox, and Maury represented the fact that Pa Petrelli will at some point absorb their powers and in a sense become them and the only one to stop it, coming from behind Ma Petrelli is none other than Sylar. That is my guess, either that or they changed the future yet again but I like my idea better lol.

[dru-zod2501]

so sad. I thought Adam had the potential to be as terrifying Petrelli, at least for Hiro's rogues gallery

[Mini Wolfsbane]

:( I'll miss Adam. He rocked...out loud!! (I watch too many cartoons.)
That's just my way of saying he was awesome.

Tonight had so many "OMG" moments. I think tonight I talked/shouted at the characters more then I ever have;

"Run! Get out of there!"

"Ha-ha! Got you!"

"Holy crap!"

"Aw, crap."

(Thinking something like) '...Hey, if that's what turtles can do, I want a turtle.'

Anyway, I really liked Adam and couldn't believe they killed him. It made me make a sad face. Plus, ah, he was kinda cute or hot or whatever. (I love accents!)

[tomos]

if adams power was all that was keeping him alive, then wouldnt he have died while the haitian was around?

[STFanatic]

if adams power was all that was keeping him alive, then wouldnt he have died while the haitian was around?

That is a good point.

Perhaps the Haitian somehow only blocks/suppresses the powers and not remove them.

[spicyblark]

he can't come back...pa petrelli stole his ability to heal/regenerate/live forever(which is why he finally died)...he's gone, which sucks because I wanted to see what he was going to do this time

[Litle bit more bizarre]

he can't come back...pa petrelli stole his ability to heal/regenerate/live forever(which is why he finally died)...he's gone, which sucks because I wanted to see what he was going to do this time

I think if they realy want to save him only Hiro or Peter can do that:cool::cool:

[rocana]

He must've not liked Adam too much since a blood transfusion would've had the same effect. But I guess this way was faster and papa is a busy guy with things to get done.

[jimmyolsenblues]

i can't wait to find out how papa petrelli got bed ridden in the first place.
i mean he started off in bad shape, who put him there?

[Litle bit more bizarre]

He must've not liked Adam too much since a blood transfusion would've had the same effect. But I guess this way was faster and papa is a busy guy with things to get done.

I dont think so if he just use his blood he will be just healed but he dont want to be just healed he want Adams power to permanent using

[rocana]

Hmm, I'm not so sure he'd have Adam's power permanently. That would bring up the question as to why he didn't take his power 30 years ago, when the group first formed. I suspect that once he takes someones power, the power he had before disappears.

[shadow4486]

Glad Adam's gone...other than manipulation with his smooth english accent...what good was he to the show?

I hope they don't bring him back unless it's in flashbacks or something...

[Novak Fan]

I didn't like that they killed Adam. There's others boring characters that they need to go before him. Not saying that he was boring though but yeha, I didn't like it.

[pizzahead2490]

i loved adam so much, i was sad to see him just go into ashes. but it true what you guys say his power was the only thing keeping him alive and when it was taken from him he just did what every other 400 yr old do turn to ashes. =(

[Lex'sLover]

Ya.. I thought he would regerate too... GOD that makes me sooo mad! Whats the point of bringing him back if you're just going to kill him off... GRRRRRRR I really liked Adam too.. its not FAIR!

[Novak Fan]

Ya.. I thought he would regerate too... GOD that makes me sooo mad! Whats the point of bringing him back if you're just going to kill him off... GRRRRRRR I really liked Adam too.. its not FAIR!

lol I guess that healing Pa Petrelli ;) But yeah...too bad,it was an awesome character

[Karafan1]

I was very surprised that they killed off Adam. I thought they'd keep him around for awhile and help the villians..

[RedPhoenix23]

OMG!!! I am so pissed that they killed Adam! I got to be honest, this season in my opinion has not been good at all and Adam's return was like breeze of fresh air... but now he's gone and it at least appears to be pretty freaking permanant. :mad:

What was the point of killing him? Adam's blood could have cured Pa Petrelli's problem and if Pa Petrelli was wanting to be immortal then hey guess what, when he snatched Peter's abilities away then he would have gotten it.

[Xanderman]

What was the point of killing him? Adam's blood could have cured Pa Petrelli's problem and if Pa Petrelli was wanting to be immortal then hey guess what, when he snatched Peter's abilities away then he would have gotten it.Exactly, Arthur "Power Stealer" Petrelli didn't need to take Adam's power, which therefore means he wanted Adam dead. I'm not sure they gave a reason why he hated Adam enough to kill him though, did they?

On the subject of Adam rapidly aging and turning to ashes the instant his power was removed, I thought that was completely absurd. Unless Pa Petrelli possesses an as-yet-unseen power to rapidly age a person or turn them to dust upon touch (like a Smallville freak), it was absurd. Just because he no longer regenerates, it doesn't reverse the fact that he had been regenerating for the past 400 years to keep him young. Do people's wounds (like the scarred Nathan) return after injected healing-blood did its thing/was used up and left their system? No. Thus neither should Adam's "aging wounds" instantly surface, because those wounds have already been healed (in fact, they never actually had a chance to manifest as aging damage because of his ability). So dumb. He should have just become mortal (and aged normally) from that point on. The rapid aging-to-ashes thing was likely just done for a dramatic death. (And as others have pointed out, Adam had been around the power-blocking Haitian at the Company, but he didn't just go up in smoke/ashes. Turning off a power is basically the same thing as not having said power. And if it's no longer working to "keep him young", the same thing should have happened as did after Arthur's theft. But it never did, because it's plain ridiculous.)

Part of me doubts Adam will be gone for good. His death was too quick, too pointless (and it made no sense as I explained above). There still seems to be "unfinished business" for his character, like between himself and Hiro for example. Plus, how could they kill off a character as interesting as Adam, one who has been around for centuries, especially when they've BARELY explored that aspect of him at all? There is plenty of story potential for a character with centuries and centuries worth of wisdom and experiences. They had hardly even scratched the surface. So I really hope they bring him back. Maybe Hiro can time travel and save him? It would make for nice irony, given that Hiro refused to time travel to save his own father, who was murdered by this very man (Adam).

[Kal el of krypton]

yeah i can't believed they killed him off, i hope they bring him back after all nearly everyone who dies, comes back to life lol.

If they don't bring adam back I'm gonna be pissed, i loved his character lol :(

[darkphoenix21]

Adam's appearance was just pointless. Why bring him for two episodes just to kill him off that way? I thought he was like Claire, invincible (guess not).

[The Ninth Doctor]

Exactly, Arthur "Power Stealer" Petrelli didn't need to take Adam's power, which therefore means he wanted Adam dead. I'm not sure they gave a reason why he hated Adam enough to kill him though, did they?

On the subject of Adam rapidly aging and turning to ashes the instant his power was removed, I thought that was completely absurd. Unless Pa Petrelli possesses an as-yet-unseen power to rapidly age a person or turn them to dust upon touch (like a Smallville freak), it was absurd. Just because he no longer regenerates, it doesn't reverse the fact that he had been regenerating for the past 400 years to keep him young. Do people's wounds (like the scarred Nathan) return after injected healing-blood did its thing/was used up and left their system? No. Thus neither should Adam's "aging wounds" instantly surface, because those wounds have already been healed (in fact, they never actually had a chance to manifest as aging damage because of his ability). So dumb. He should have just become mortal (and aged normally) from that point on. The rapid aging-to-ashes thing was likely just done for a dramatic death. (And as others have pointed out, Adam had been around the power-blocking Haitian at the Company, but he didn't just go up in smoke/ashes. Turning off a power is basically the same thing as not having said power. And if it's no longer working to "keep him young", the same thing should have happened as did after Arthur's theft. But it never did, because it's plain ridiculous.)

Part of me doubts Adam will be gone for good. His death was too quick, too pointless (and it made no sense as I explained above). There still seems to be "unfinished business" for his character, like between himself and Hiro for example. Plus, how could they kill off a character as interesting as Adam, one who has been around for centuries, especially when they've BARELY explored that aspect of him at all? There is plenty of story potential for a character with centuries and centuries worth of wisdom and experiences. They had hardly even scratched the surface. So I really hope they bring him back. Maybe Hiro can time travel and save him? It would make for nice irony, given that Hiro refused to time travel to save his own father, who was murdered by this very man (Adam).

My thoughts exactly. Nothing at all makes sense about his death. Not in story. Not out of story. The only thing it accomplishes is make viewers go "AH! HE KILLED ADAM. PA PATRELLI IS THE SCARY." It was a cheep thrill. AND if it sticks it really robs season 2 of al ot of its worth.

[STFanatic]

With a series full of people that can time travel, don't count him out yet.

I will not read spoilers, so I am just guessing, but I am not counting him out.

[christian_kryptonian]

The years caught up with him. Plain and simple

[Novak Fan]

Well, before I'd jump to conclusions I would like to know if there's something about Adam and Pa Petrelli in the graphic novel. I don't like it at all but some things sometimes are explained there (like why FClaire hate FPeter so much ie)



On the subject of Adam rapidly aging and turning to ashes the instant his power was removed, I thought that was completely absurd. Unless Pa Petrelli possesses an as-yet-unseen power to rapidly age a person or turn them to dust upon touch (like a Smallville freak), it was absurd.

I think that we have to see more of Pa Petrelli's power. I'm seeing his power kind like Rogue on X men. She can "take" other mutants powers but at the same she steals life from them when she touches them, even kill them. The power looks very similar *shrugs*

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Oh! and another thing, this show seen to like kill off characters just like that. *glaring to show* yeah, I haven't forget Eden!

[Lex'sLover]

OMG!!! I am so pissed that they killed Adam! I got to be honest, this season in my opinion has not been good at all and Adam's return was like breeze of fresh air... but now he's gone and it at least appears to be pretty freaking permanant. :mad:

What was the point of killing him? Adam's blood could have cured Pa Petrelli's problem and if Pa Petrelli was wanting to be immortal then hey guess what, when he snatched Peter's abilities away then he would have gotten it.

I don't agree that this season has been bad at all.. but I do agree with what you said about Adam.. I mean... Honestly.. what was the point of bringing him back if they were just going to kill him off.. its not fricken fair! What a tease! Thats sooo stupid.. I'm still hoping for a miracle.. and he will come back. Cause thats just not right.

And your so right! He could have just taken his blood and like you said.. he could have taken it from Peter when he took his powers... GRRRRRR!!!! It FRUSTRATES ME! As if they kill off such an awesome Character after one season.. especially when it wasnt nessicary

[LuthorKent90]

LOL I won't be surprised if they find a way to bring him!
I don't see why they would bring him back for just two episodes, with such a limited amount of scenes.
I started to like his character way more in these past 2 episodes and his humor with Hiro/Ando *forgets he killed Hiros dad*. Theres so much more we need of his character.

[Kal el of krypton]

they probably killed off adam to show the difference between him and claire because she's meant to be the 'special' one. Most likely that claire can't die after years even if her ability has been stripped from her.

They better bring adam monroe back though :(

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the writers probably went with the 'ability' is the only thing that keeps him alive so once its stripped he should of rapidly aged and die.

personally i think they should of just given him some of adams blood and healed mr petrelli and still used adam.

[kp1984]

Exactly, Arthur "Power Stealer" Petrelli didn't need to take Adam's power, which therefore means he wanted Adam dead. I'm not sure they gave a reason why he hated Adam enough to kill him though, did they?

On the subject of Adam rapidly aging and turning to ashes the instant his power was removed, I thought that was completely absurd. Unless Pa Petrelli possesses an as-yet-unseen power to rapidly age a person or turn them to dust upon touch (like a Smallville freak), it was absurd. Just because he no longer regenerates, it doesn't reverse the fact that he had been regenerating for the past 400 years to keep him young. Do people's wounds (like the scarred Nathan) return after injected healing-blood did its thing/was used up and left their system? No. Thus neither should Adam's "aging wounds" instantly surface, because those wounds have already been healed (in fact, they never actually had a chance to manifest as aging damage because of his ability). So dumb. He should have just become mortal (and aged normally) from that point on. The rapid aging-to-ashes thing was likely just done for a dramatic death. (And as others have pointed out, Adam had been around the power-blocking Haitian at the Company, but he didn't just go up in smoke/ashes. Turning off a power is basically the same thing as not having said power. And if it's no longer working to "keep him young", the same thing should have happened as did after Arthur's theft. But it never did, because it's plain ridiculous.)

Part of me doubts Adam will be gone for good. His death was too quick, too pointless (and it made no sense as I explained above). There still seems to be "unfinished business" for his character, like between himself and Hiro for example. Plus, how could they kill off a character as interesting as Adam, one who has been around for centuries, especially when they've BARELY explored that aspect of him at all? There is plenty of story potential for a character with centuries and centuries worth of wisdom and experiences. They had hardly even scratched the surface. So I really hope they bring him back. Maybe Hiro can time travel and save him? It would make for nice irony, given that Hiro refused to time travel to save his own father, who was murdered by this very man (Adam).

I agree. How would his body know if he was 400 years or 400 months old. Only his mind knows he's that old.

[Xanderman]

I posted this on another thread, it's connected to this discussion so here it is...



AND his death makes no sense, given Adam's power. When the blood wore of in HRG or Nathan did they become dead or burned again, respectively? No. When the Hatian blocked Peter's power did he suddenly regain all the injuries he'd gotten over the years? No. So why did taking Adam's power suddenly make him go Last Crusade? The only way I can see it possibly being explained is that by healing aging damage, he was stopping/preventing something "natural". He was preventing a natural death, as coded for in his dna or something (which is a scientific idea, that aging and eventual death due to it is coded for in our dna). That means Adam's "biological/dna clock" was long-overdue for a death due to aging, and so once his super-regeneration was removed, his dna/biology was finally "freed" to correct itself or fulfill its encoded-for imperative. But for it to be done in an instant like that, including degrading to ashes, is nonsense. I mean bodies degrade to ashes/dust/whatever only after we have been dead a long time, it has nothing to do with DNA coding. If they just had him age fast and die an old man on the floor, I could understand/accept this better, but to make him also instantly become dust is ABSURD.

Anyway, I'm right with you on this Ninth. It was a stupid death. So stupid, so pointless and quick that it begs for a reversal thru time travel (Hiro to the rescue?). Perhaps they intended this for shock value only, and plan on bringing him back later. Because that was way too stupid a way to end his character, from a logical standpoint and also a story standpoint, as you said.




I think that we have to see more of Pa Petrelli's power. I'm seeing his power kind like Rogue on X men. She can "take" other mutants powers but at the same she steals life from them when she touches them, even kill them. The power looks very similar *shrugs*

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Oh! and another thing, this show seen to like kill off characters just like that. *glaring to show* yeah, I haven't forget Eden!I think with Adam the explanation has more to do with him being 400 years old. Because afterall Peter didn't die after Arthur sucked him dry (that sounds a little sick, sorry, lol). They're probably following the explanation that I gave above. But the instant dust thing has no explanation--unless a specific power was used to do that. As for Eden, I also didn't like when they killed her off. But I guess since Matt and his dad have a similar power, she was ultimately expendable.

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I agree. How would his body know if he was 400 years or 400 months old. Only his mind knows he's that old.It's probably a DNA/biological clock type explanation (read the beginning of this post)....but it doesn't explain the complete degradation, at all.

[Lex'sLover]

LOL I won't be surprised if they find a way to bring him!
I don't see why they would bring him back for just two episodes, with such a limited amount of scenes.
I started to like his character way more in these past 2 episodes and his humor with Hiro/Ando *forgets he killed Hiros dad*. Theres so much more we need of his character.

Exactly.. well.. lets hope for the bringing him back from the dead. they tend to do that alot anyways.. why not for Adam lol ;)

[RedPhoenix23]

Anyway, I'm right with you on this Ninth. It was a stupid death. So stupid, so pointless and quick that it begs for a reversal thru time travel (Hiro to the rescue?). Perhaps they intended this for shock value only, and plan on bringing him back later. Because that was way too stupid a way to end his character, from a logical standpoint and also a story standpoint, as you said.

I hope a time travel reversal will "undo" his death because it was really pointless. A time travel reversal does seem to be the only thing that will "undo" that nasty bug thing that Mo' is turning into so why not use it use two birds with one stone.

[Cocles]

Adam Monroe is possibly not dead. Here's why.

Parkman Sr. was still alive when Adam was "killed", and who did Parkman Sr. report to last season before Pa Petrelli? Yep, Monroe.

A lot of people have pointed out that the whole "ashes effect" just makes no sense. It's wonky, even for Sci-Fi, and Adam had to have been exposed to the Haitian at some point in his history with the company and survived.

So it's simple. Pa Petrelli steals Adam's power, and the whole resulting "ashes" effect was an illusion by Parkman Sr. to save Monroe. They further set precedent for this by having Parkman Jr. pull this off successfully to save himself and Daphne.

Monroe could easily be hiding right now somewhere without his power.

So why would Parkman Sr. do this? I'm betting Parkman saved Monroe to enlist him to further safeguard Parkman's son from Pa Petrelli.

[RedPhoenix23]

Parkman Sr. was still alive when Adam was "killed", and who did Parkman Sr. report to last season before Pa Petrelli? Yep, Monroe.

Did he really though? Maybe Maury was already in league with Arthur Petrelli even then and Adam/Kensei's plan of revenge against The Company simply went along with their agenda at the time. I hope not though because I sure do like your spec that Maury saved Adam. :D All he'd have to do is place a little mind mojo to make it look like Adam dies while at the same time pumping a little blood into Arthur to heal him up so that it would "look" like he stole his power and killed Adam in the process. Afterall, after Arthur steals Peter's powers away like an hour later, he'd be none the wiser anyways. It could work!

[Xanderman]

Very interesting theory, Cocles. I hope you're right! Otherwise Adam's death would truly and forever be one of the dumbest things this series has ever done. (And even if that's not what happened, there are other ways to bring Adam back of course....namely, with time travel. The ultimate el cheapo cheat.)

And as RedPhoenix pointed out, it's also possible he never stole Adam's power at all there, and only got his blood. Could have all been part of the illusion.

If we extend this further, maybe Maury isn't dead either? Maybe his own death was an illusion too. Because that was a pointless/quick/stupid death as well.

The only problem I see with this theory, is that I'm not sure Arthur is susceptible to mind manipulation. He seems to have an original mind power of his own--recall, he invaded Angela's dream state and put her into a coma. What's more, Maury seemed quite terrified of Arthur, even when he was ill/weak. This to me implies Maury is no match for whatever Arthur's mind power is.

[Yoshua]

i hope he is gone for good.


They can't keep using time travel to fix their mistakes. I really appreciate that they didn't actually bring linderman back and it was a head trip. When i first saw linderman I was like WTF?


Sorry, I agree that Adam was a great character but they can't keep using time travel to fix what fans don't like. They made a choice and should stick with it.


I like cocles explanation though, if somehow maury pulled it off that would be great, it would go along with my theory that maury isn't dead and it was an illusion to mess with Daphne's head.


But I don't think Patrelli would fall for an illusion to be honest.

[Xanderman]

But I don't think Patrelli would fall for an illusion to be honest.Neither do I, as it doesn't add up with the fact that Maury was clearly terrified of him. He would only be so scared if Arthur has a mind ability of his own, a superior one.

But still, Adam's (and also Maury's) deaths both seemed too stupid/badly written to be permanent or what actually happened. But it's not like Heroes hasn't done stupid things before of course, so, who knows what's what anymore.

[The Ninth Doctor]

They made a choice and should stick with it.


They chose to have a time traveler on the show, they shouldn't just ignore the implications.

[Yoshua]

They chose to have a time traveler on the show, they shouldn't just ignore the implications.

The time traveller hates Adam Monroe. I see a conflict of interests.


Also the Time Traveller refuses to go into the past to change the future. I see a conflict of interests.

Both of the agencies hated Adam Monroe, even if they had another time traveller on hand? I see a conflict of interests.


What's the chances coincidence is on Adam's side and his secret lover is a time traveller? Then he wouldn't have been in the coffin for months.

[STFanatic]

Arthur Petrelli can time travel now.

[Yoshua]

Arthur Petrelli can time travel now.

True enough but if he goes back and stops himself from taking Adam's power then he doesn't have Adam's power and a time line shift will happen. We don't know what will happen to someone from the future residing in the past when the future changes. And they left Peters GF in the future with no explanation of what happened to her to leave it open.

[STFanatic]

He can go back and bring Adam from another time line (Darn Paradoxes).

I still want to see what happened to Caitlin.

[Novak Fan]

He can go back and bring Adam from another time line (Darn Paradoxes).

I still want to see what happened to Caitlin.

Same here, it seems like they forgot about her or something. I mean, how Peter haven't travel to look for her? well, when he had his powers that's it :rolleyes:

[Yoshua]

He can go back and bring Adam from another time line (Darn Paradoxes).

I still want to see what happened to Caitlin.

I am pretty sure with how Adam responded when he saw Arthur that he is not one of Arthurs favorite people.

Why would Arthur want to bring someone back who he doesn't need anymore and never seemed to like in the first place?

[alien_from_mars]

I dont see how he can come back from that and if he does then it better be a good explanation cause there are too many silly and easy explanations in the series already. if they need to do something they just mess with time, kinda of a cop out

[Lex'sLover]

alien fomr marsIs your avi and that quote from Imagine me and you? I love that movie :)

[kp1984]

After watching Eclipse I was wondering. There had to been alot of those during Adam life. If the powers where really keeping him alive then why did'nt the eclipse kill him? Guess the writers were not thinking. He should have just lost his powers and age normally after Aruthor took his powers.

[Xanderman]

^Great point. Past eclipses, along with the fact that Adam must have crossed paths with the Haitian at least once in his life (they both were involved with the company afterall), really highlight the absurdity of that scene. Making the theory that his "Mummy Returns" death was actually just an illusion of Maury's all the more likely.

[shanemak]

Killing Adam off just has to be one of the dumbest things the writers' ever did. Adam was so interesting; he had 400 years of expertise and experience to learn from. I really like Cocles explanation that Maury could have made an illusion. Off topic but why did Hiro and Ando have to labor for probably hours and dig him up, why didn't Hiro just teleport into the coffin and grab Kensei just like he did when he put him in there?

And surely Arthur knows that his very own Granddaughter has the ability to regenerate, since he was in the company and they know all about Claire. IMO Arthur should've just stole Claire's ability and leave the more interesting Adam alone. Claire would still be alive as well as Kensei.