Lois and Clark's Love is Not Being Rushed...

[x THE CHEETAH x]

I've seen some say that the writers are rushing Lois and Clark's romance... I personally have to disagree. The way I see it, it's not like Lois just showed up... she and Clark have been through a lot in the past four seasons (i.e. Jonathan's death, etc., etc.). I think if those that feel the love is being rushed actually look back at all of the episodes (four seasons worth), and take it all in, they may change their minds... and if they don't,... well, to each his/her own.

I for one, actually feel that their love is right on track and right on time... the writers, as well as Erica Durance and Tom Welling are giving these two characters (Lois and Clark) the respect and attention they deserve.

[Liquid-Prince]

I never thought it was rushed. You could see affection building since Crusade when Clark picked Lois up and put her aside.

[Yankeefan]

I agree with you, I think lois had feelings for Clark before this season but did not tell him anything, Lois acts the way she does with Clark because that is the way she shows him she cares lol

[Fallen One]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

And at the risk of bile coming up into my throat. I'll stop there.

There has always been a spark between Lois and Clark. By always, I mean from Crusade onwards. EVERY character has noticed it. Every character has either given them looks (Chloe, Jonathan, Martha), or flat out said something about it (Lana, Oliver). Its called chemistry and they've always had it.

By the end of season 4 they have a good friendship. By the end of season 5 Lois says she would be honored to have a guy like Clark. By the end of season 6 there's unmistakeable sexual tension between them. By the end of season 7 Lois' feelings about Clark have clearly changed romantically and she's fallen for him. Odyssey, the very first time Lois sees him she gives him a look unlike any look she's ever given him and by the end of it she's smiling that they will be working nearbye each other. By the end of Plastique she's openly winking at him. In Toxic Chloe remarks that Lois has Clark joined at the hip and that they spend more time together than she and her fiance. In Instinct she's makes a play at him, by the end of it she's displaying jealousy and not denying her feelings for him to Maxima. By the end of Commited she has to confess that she's in love with him.

Apocalyspe to Committed: 7 episodes from the time Lois' feelings for Clark have changed till the time she admits to herself and him that she has fallen in love with him. Thats at least 3 months of the show's timeline for her feelings to grow, day by day. Adding to that, they have been working side by side 5 days a week for over a month and have never spent as much time together as they are now. Thats creates even more opportunity for Lois' feelings for him to grow deeper.

Now, having said all that, you decide which love is more belieavable. The above, or "I loved her from the first time I saw her".

I rest my case.

[individuall]

I agree..I know some people think it's being rushed, but honestly it's going just the right pace for my tastes...ED/TW chemistry has been fantastic from the start and I love that they are really stepping it up a notch and holding nothing back this season :D.

They are the best Clois :)

Great post as always Cedric :)

[beautyfades]

I don't think it's rushed either... but I also don't think there will be "romantic Clois" this season either. I like the way things are going now- a romantic lois & clark isn't out of the picture.

Not sure if I need to post this as a spoiler or anything, but I think it's common knowledge that Clark will deal more with a "double-identity" this season right? I'd like to see Lois become pre-occupied with this mysterious hero- one, because in the mythos she's always fallen for Superman first, and two- this can be her way of distracting herself from what she think she's feeling for Clark. I think it would be great to play off that, and would totally build on "clois" without going full-fledge.

[individuall]

^I half agree with you. I thought she fell for Clark Kent first in the new comics and only had a flirtation with Supes...I don't read the comics, but that what I've heard from other comic readers. I want her to be hell bent on finding the mysterious blue streak hero person too. I like the idea that it's to, as you said distract her from her from feelings for Clark...I love when Lois throws herself into her work! :)
But I want her to still fall for Clark Kent first...

[amberdawn]

It's not being rushed. They've known eachother for 4 years. And Lois started to fall for Clark months ago. I'm not sure if restrictions on their relationship are still in place, but I doubt they will even become a couple on this show.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

And at the risk of bile coming up into my throat. I'll stop there.

There has always been a spark between Lois and Clark. By always, I mean from Crusade onwards. EVERY character has noticed it. Every character has either given them looks (Chloe, Jonathan, Martha), or flat out said something about it (Lana, Oliver). Its called chemistry and they've always had it.

By the end of season 4 they have a good friendship. By the end of season 5 Lois says she would be honored to have a guy like Clark. By the end of season 6 there's unmistakeable sexual tension between them. By the end of season 7 Lois' feelings about Clark have clearly changed romantically and she's fallen for him. Odyssey, the very first time Lois sees him she gives him a look unlike any look she's ever given him and by the end of it she's smiling that they will be working nearbye each other. By the end of Plastique she's openly winking at him. In Toxic Chloe remarks that Lois has Clark joined at the hip and that they spend more time together than she and her fiance. In Instinct she's makes a play at him, by the end of it she's displaying jealousy and not denying her feelings for him to Maxima. By the end of Commited she has to confess that she's in love with him.

Apocalyspe to Committed: 7 episodes from the time Lois' feelings for Clark have changed till the time she admits to herself and him that she has fallen in love with him. Thats at least 3 months of the show's timeline for her feelings to grow, day by day. Adding to that, they have been working side by side 5 days a week for over a month and have never spent as much time together as they are now. Thats creates even more opportunity for Lois' feelings for him to grow deeper.

Now, having said all that, you decide which love is more belieavable. The above, or "I loved her from the first time I saw her".

I rest my case.

I completely agree... great post.

[DontCha]

yep since season 4 they were steadily growing as friends, they went from knowing one another, annoying one another, liking one another, becoming good friends with one another and now its turning to love and theres always been an underline of attraction to one another throughout all 4 seasons. By season 7 they were getting rather close..closer than they have ever been before it was setting the stones for season 8.

Lois didnt just suddenly realize she has feelings(other than friendship) for clark in season 8, she got a hint of it in season 7 (which scared the crap out of her BTW) at the end of apocalypse. I knew things were never going to be the same for her when it came to clark once i saw that moment and i was right. It was never the same again.

Once you relize you have feelings for someone you cant go back on it, you cant turn them off. They just grow.

Which is why im now convinced that clark will never be the same around Lois after that little moment in the elevator when the doors closed. He's realized he has feelings and now they will grow and grow for her just like Lois' have been growing for clark since Apocalypse.

i mean hello at the end?

revelation much?

and i dont think it means now that they both realize they have feelings for one another that they will instantly get together, it wont, They're clearly not ready for it yet.

[supes0]

I thought she fell for Clark Kent first in the new comics and only had a flirtation with Supes..


Not so new! ;)

1985 was the crisis.

She fell in love with Clark Kent before she knew he was Superman. But she did have a crush on Superman before she fell in love with Clark. She met them both at the same time. Clark scooped her on the Superman story which cast them as rivals for awhile.


They were engaged in the late 1990, He told her a few months later. They were supposed to marry in 1993 in Superman 75 but the tv show postponed it, so the writers killed him instead.

[ElVibo]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

I rest my case.

I think you've been watching too many guy wants to get girl movies. It's called attraction not love. When you claim it was love at first sight then it's being rushed. How silly would it sound if I walked up to a girl and said blatently, "I just saw you and instantanously fell in love with you" , she would either kick me in the balls, think I'm a stalker and yell or most likely run in the other direction looking for the next security guard to lay the smack down on my candy ass.

Look at how they portrayed Clark in Commited, Lois wanted to team up with Clark and Clark just wanted to get away from her. They might have shared a kiss in Crimson, or even when Clark dressed up as the Green Arrow but yeah, it doesn't scream out Love.

Look at Clark in instinct, he was stunned at Lois' reaction when she caught him sucking face with Maxima, he was as confused as I would be if a girl reacted like the way Lois did.

The Lois and Clark love connection isn't being rushed it's simmering, adding to it, bit by bit.

Love is a big word and people use it too loosely.

If you don't understand the human mating ritual I'll break it down for you.

Phase 1 - Attraction

Phase 2 - Connection

Phase 3 - Seduction

Then when you really know a person really well Love cements itself.

But then you can argue the fact there are different feels and levels of Love. There's Love the romatic sexual way. But then there's love the affection way. A girl can say she loves her brother, but her interpretation and emotional feeling of that Love towards her brother is totally different than a couple getting it on in the sack and whispering sweet nothings for the past x years.♦

And so what if Lois gives a wink here and there, or gives him some kind of look or smiling. Heaps of women do that to me but it ain't Love. It's just playful good emotions, flirtation etc, but it aint love.

By the way, Love is a two way connection not a one way street.

I rest my case.

[redRound]

I don't know about rushed. But it's being portrayed in a very heavy handed way imo. In Lois & Clark, we all knew they'd eventually get together, but the writers allowed the characters to just be, rather than the constant LOOK!! It's LOIS and CLARK!!!

[Humdinger]

Personally, I like the pace of the relationship. It's moving forward, but not so fast that it's incredible.

[SnowBird]

Lois and Clark's relationship has been like two turtles 4 miles apart moving towards each other. That is how I feel about 4 years of friendship before they finally realize there is something deeper. Not Rushed! TV shows usually moves at a fast pace but Smallville takes its time when it comes to Clark. It took till the end of season 2 in SV before Clark and Lana finally became a couple. For Clark having super speed, he moves mighty slow when it comes to meaningful relationships. It's about time Lois and Clark find each other but I see road blocks in their way to prolong the inevitable.

[Sweetie]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

And at the risk of bile coming up into my throat. I'll stop there.

There has always been a spark between Lois and Clark. By always, I mean from Crusade onwards. EVERY character has noticed it. Every character has either given them looks (Chloe, Jonathan, Martha), or flat out said something about it (Lana, Oliver). Its called chemistry and they've always had it.

By the end of season 4 they have a good friendship. By the end of season 5 Lois says she would be honored to have a guy like Clark. By the end of season 6 there's unmistakeable sexual tension between them. By the end of season 7 Lois' feelings about Clark have clearly changed romantically and she's fallen for him. Odyssey, the very first time Lois sees him she gives him a look unlike any look she's ever given him and by the end of it she's smiling that they will be working nearbye each other. By the end of Plastique she's openly winking at him. In Toxic Chloe remarks that Lois has Clark joined at the hip and that they spend more time together than she and her fiance. In Instinct she's makes a play at him, by the end of it she's displaying jealousy and not denying her feelings for him to Maxima. By the end of Commited she has to confess that she's in love with him.

Apocalyspe to Committed: 7 episodes from the time Lois' feelings for Clark have changed till the time she admits to herself and him that she has fallen in love with him. Thats at least 3 months of the show's timeline for her feelings to grow, day by day. Adding to that, they have been working side by side 5 days a week for over a month and have never spent as much time together as they are now. Thats creates even more opportunity for Lois' feelings for him to grow deeper.

Now, having said all that, you decide which love is more belieavable. The above, or "I loved her from the first time I saw her".

I rest my case.


Just because you fall in love with someone on the first sight that doesn't mean it's the idial love.Love stories don't always begins like that.Clois is the best example of a love that florished then become totally true.They are really meant to be together.

[skylar]

I don 't think there relationship has been rushed.
There has always been a spark between Clark and
Lois and over the years it has shown each season.
I'm glad how things are looking for the rest of the season.

[morrigan01]

You know, with this arguing about love at first sight and all, everyone kinda forgets that Clark, traditionally, falls in love with Lois at first sight.

And, before the reboot, Lois fell for Superman at first sight. (Wanted to stress the "before" part ;) )

If anything, SV Lois and Clark are being slower about this than normal. (And I honestly don't think Lois knew how deep her feelings ran for Clark until he stepped out of that phone booth, all Superman-like, in his new clothes. ;) )

[Fallen One]

ElVibo, Sweetie... was the post too subtle? You guys didn't catch my sarcasm obviously. Geez, at the very beginning I lay it all out for you.


Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

And at the risk of bile coming up into my throat. I'll stop there.

Why would I say I have to stop talking about Clana because I might vomit, if I thought it were true love? Of course its not true love. They didn't even know each other. That was my whole point.

Then I went on to describe, at length, how Clois has progressed season by season and when and how Lois started falling in love with him- much more realistically. And that the spark and chemistry has been there from the beginning for both of them but they needed to grow up and realize it.

Lois matured emotionally before Clark- and her love for him matured first. But Clark has matured greatly since Lana has been out of his life and he just had his "eye opener" concerning Lois and now he will forever see her differently. His feelings for her will increase until he too confesses them.

That, is far greater in depth and realism than Clark declaration of loving Lana since they were kids.

[oqllcksmallville]

It's not being rushed. They've known eachother for 4 years. And Lois started to fall for Clark months ago. I'm not sure if restrictions on their relationship are still in place, but I doubt they will even become a couple on this show.
my thought's exactly . = )
- it's not just coming ,
it's been a long time coming .
.. they've built it up beautiful ,
&& i think they did a great job , right ?

[Sweetie]

ElVibo, Sweetie... was the post too subtle? You guys didn't catch my sarcasm obviously. Geez, at the very beginning I lay it all out for you.


Why would I say I have to stop talking about Clana because I might vomit, if I thought it were true love? Of course its not true love. They didn't even know each other. That was my whole point.

Then I went on to describe, at length, how Clois has progressed season by season and when and how Lois started falling in love with him- much more realistically. And that the spark and chemistry has been there from the beginning for both of them but they needed to grow up and realize it.

Lois matured emotionally before Clark- and her love for him matured first. But Clark has matured greatly since Lana has been out of his life and he just had his "eye opener" concerning Lois and now he will forever see her differently. His feelings for her will increase until he too confesses them.

That, is far greater in depth and realism than Clark declaration of loving Lana since they were kids.


Sorry :o

[OneShotClois]

I say it's not being rushed at all. Their relationship has been developing over the 4 years, and there are episodes within those 4 years that drops little hints about their feelings for eachother.

IMO, the people who STILL think it's being rushed fail to see the Clois growth that has happened over the years.. i'm sorry, if 4 years isn't enough to 'love' somebody, how much years do you prefer them to wait? 10 years?

[abbaspice1]

They would prefer to wait for their ship to come in.

[unfocused]

The Clark and Lois relationship is NOT being rushed. It's moving at the perfect speed for my tastes.

[amberdawn]

Lois and Clark's relationship has been like two turtles 4 miles apart moving towards each other.

:lol::lol::lol:

[MetropolisGirl4SV]

Rushing the unrushed... I don't think the Clark and Lois relationship is being rushed I waited 4 damn seasons for them to actually have some sexually chemistry!!! Whether the majority agrees or not they have had chemistry from the very first meeting IMO.

Whether Clark knew it or not naked in the corn field...(nice scene he he) the Clark and Lois destiny had begun for me at least right on that corn field. And stamped with my approval when EDLois uttered the magically words "Lois, Lois Lane"

And Crusade just got them off to a great start. Through out the seasons they have developed from hating each other...with kindred bantering, to Close friendship...to finally some awkward romantic feelings hidden somewhere under their exterior.

I like the flow of the relationship this season...but I will admit that Instinct was a little to much for me...Instinct IMHO was way overboard though I did enjoy the funny moments of EDLois. I didn't expect for Lois all of a sudden to be so blunt with Clark about...the L-word and No...I'm not talking about L-O-V-E, its the other one the one that made Clark a BDA...ok I know I'm being cruel...to the L-Lovers...sorry:\. But Clark has to embrace his destiny IMO and it's better having a nice Lane than a Lang, that just might make you Hang your self...hehe:p. Wow did I go off topic...sorry guys.

Anyways, I don't think the relationship is being rushed,but I don't want it to get all Lovey Dovey (yuck) I want it to stay its course and solidify under mutual terms.

I still enjoy the thrill of the chase and I rather have the TPTB let me guessing and teasing like they did in Commited, but not have it thrown in my face too much and make it too heavy.

Well to sum it up its not being rushed but I don't think it should be flashed on the viewers with Neon Signs saying Clark and Lois,like in Instinct. I think the relationship should me a little more smoothly handled but progress its course with the cute quriks and the slippery slopes and the hidden Jealousy is just icing on the cake for me...finally after eight years a relationship that is actual quite normal!!!;)

[Liquid-Prince]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.



Really? Who made that rule up?

[oqllcksmallville]

The Clark and Lois relationship is NOT being rushed. It's moving at the perfect speed for my tastes.
i agree to no end ! *
- their not ADMITING AND ALL OVER EACH OTHER ,
but at the same time ,
their slowly progressing ..
<3-

[abbaspice1]

Yes.

They are progressing at a good speed this season.

I would have liked it to have been faster during season 4-7, but we cannot have everything.

[shamville]

They don't need get together in tell season 9 or before he when he superman. He need be with chloe see she alright. Maybe real chloe come out in 12 or 13.

[abbaspice1]

^^^^

Why not? They do in the comics.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

I don 't think there relationship has been rushed.
There has always been a spark between Clark and
Lois and over the years it has shown each season.
I'm glad how things are looking for the rest of the season.

I'm right there with you, Skylar...

[DontCha]

Clark would have never gone ahead attempted anything with Lois unless she had given him an indication that he had a chance with her...which she never did until very recently. Season 8.

as other people are saying, he totally missed her eye opener to him even though she was right in front of it when it happened

and she's missed his at the end of Committed LOL


these two..my word lol trust me its not being rushed, right now I think lois loves clark but thinks its unreturned, doesnt want anything to happen with him, she loves him but doesnt want to love him and she doesnt want him to know that she loves him.



Clark has now had an eye opener to Lois and as was said these feelings will grow until he admits it out loud like Lois already has. But right now..*sigh* he thinks she doesnt love him.

Which again will keep this relationship at a slow steady pace.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

The Clark and Lois relationship is NOT being rushed. It's moving at the perfect speed for my tastes.

I think their relationship is right on track as well... my only fear is not being able to see Lois and Clark commiting their love to one another on this show before the series calls it quits. I understand that the idea of their love is what keeps the viewers coming back, but if and when this show decides to move on, I hope, hope, hope, they ultimately provide us with the satisfaction of seeing Erica Durance and Tom Welling perform such an incredible moment...

I'm not asking for some over-the-top wedding series finale... a simple moment is all that's needed: Clark and Lois looking in each other's eyes... not flinching... knowing and acknowledging that their future is forever together.... just let me see a moment like that before Smallville goes away and I'll be happy.

[amberdawn]

I feel the same as you Eric. They don't have to be in a relationship, but when the show ends, I want them to be fully in love with one another and admit it to themselves.

[Faerus]

I dont think they are making a Clois for Smallville....Smallville its more about Clark and Lana if we are talking about romance...even when she's been gone for some episodes Clark have been missing Lana alot and to be honest I think they make a beautiful couple.

[DontCha]

smallville WAS more about clark and Lana before it began to draw to a close and become about Superman...she's here for hardly any time this season so i doubt it will be a Clana focused season,

[kiariclois]

Never really saw it being rushed -- I say tptp slowed things down with Clois all these years

[Dodge006]

Funny, I think they need to speed it up a bit, lol.

[RedKRules]

rushed?? no way!! the writers just forgot the fastfoward/lightswitch botton on!

[Guidron]

The following is totally my opinion and I'm not setting out to bash any ship at all.

[BEGINSEMIRANT]
I think those that see the relationship between Lois and Clark as being rushed mostly suffer from the same thing. They are a shipper for some other couple. Be it Chlark, Clana, whatever. They are focused on the relationship that they WANT to see so they feel that the relationship between Lois and Clark is coming out of left field.

I am a Clois fan. I have been since she first showed up on the scene in the middle of that cornfield. Now before you write me off as another biased opinion, know that I was originally a Clana fan and a few years ago after watching the first few seasons straight on DVD I was pulling for some Chlark too. However, also in re-watching the series I came to see why I'm such a Clois fan. The spark has been there from the start. The problem is that it has been sprinkled in ever so subtly and totally overshadowed by the angst surrounding Clana.

Lois and Clark have been attracted to each other all along. However, you have to look to see it. Small expressions, gestures, seemingly off hand comments all revealing the attraction that was under the surface. However both were in different relationships at the time. It's even been noted by other characters in the show, but they have both been in denial about it.

In my view, this isn't something that is coming out of the blue, it's been hinted at and built upon for 4 years. You just need to look to find it.
[/ENDSEMIRANT]

[TOMophilus]

I enjoy Season 8 very much, but just like everything else was basically lightswitched at the beginning of this season, so was Lois´s attraction to Clark. There was hardly a build up, excpet maybe at the end of S7. A reasonable development would have consisted in letting Lana fade away in S6 (for example by letting her stay with Lex) and in starting to develop the Lois-Clark relationship in some more detail instead. At the same time Clark should have started to develop some interest in journalism again. Yet nothing of that kind happened, because the (failed) attempts to get two spin-offs (first a Green Arrow show and then a Supergirl show) took precedence over Smallville´s own storyline.

So yes, to make up for past failures everything has been rushed this season, including the romantic Lois & Clark relationship. I love it, but it still feels rushed!

[tariksam]

Funny, I think they need to speed it up a bit, lol.

lol I was thinking the same

[SupesComicFan]

I think they are rushing parts of it. I don't think Lois is "in love" with Clark, not yet. But, she does love him. That does not feel rushed. I think Clark will slowly come to realize he has had feelings for Lois all along, but he was too caught up in Lana to deal.

So, no, not rushed. If Lois were out picking china, yes, rushed. But this, no.

[SueB]

Completely rushed --- should have waited til he was Superman in Futureville. In 5 episodes she is declaring her love? For pity's sake, what exactly has he done but wear nicer clothes. They had plenty of interaction at the Kent Farm for him to understand what kind of person he is and their interaction seems pretty competitive and bickering to me. Please tell me she isn't that shallow that the one scene in Plastique where he puts on a new shirt was all it took.

[Timester]

Completely rushed --- should have waited til he was Superman in Futureville. In 5 episodes she is declaring her love? For pity's sake, what exactly has he done but wear nicer clothes. They had plenty of interaction at the Kent Farm for him to understand what kind of person he is and their interaction seems pretty competitive and bickering to me. Please tell me she isn't that shallow that the one scene in Plastique where he puts on a new shirt was all it took.

Like "Lois & Clark" or one comic book origin?

Oh wait, can't talk about previous canon, sorry. :(

[SueB]

Like "Lois & Clark" or one comic book origin?

So you agree with me?

[Hopefulsuicide]

Completely rushed --- should have waited til he was Superman in Futureville. In 5 episodes she is declaring her love? For pity's sake, what exactly has he done but wear nicer clothes. They had plenty of interaction at the Kent Farm for him to understand what kind of person he is and their interaction seems pretty competitive and bickering to me. Please tell me she isn't that shallow that the one scene in Plastique where he puts on a new shirt was all it took.

their interaction at the kent farm IS why she loves him. it's not like it's suddenly come on, it's just with the things happening lately and her seeing more sides of him, her attraction and feelings are getting stronger. it is quite clear to me how much she cares about him and depends on him through the last few seasons.

[eas]

Of course its being rushed. True love is when you claim to have loved someone from the moment you first saw them. Like Clark and Lana. Thats as true as true love gets.

And at the risk of bile coming up into my throat. I'll stop there.

There has always been a spark between Lois and Clark. By always, I mean from Crusade onwards. EVERY character has noticed it. Every character has either given them looks (Chloe, Jonathan, Martha), or flat out said something about it (Lana, Oliver). Its called chemistry and they've always had it.

By the end of season 4 they have a good friendship. By the end of season 5 Lois says she would be honored to have a guy like Clark. By the end of season 6 there's unmistakeable sexual tension between them. By the end of season 7 Lois' feelings about Clark have clearly changed romantically and she's fallen for him. Odyssey, the very first time Lois sees him she gives him a look unlike any look she's ever given him and by the end of it she's smiling that they will be working nearbye each other. By the end of Plastique she's openly winking at him. In Toxic Chloe remarks that Lois has Clark joined at the hip and that they spend more time together than she and her fiance. In Instinct she's makes a play at him, by the end of it she's displaying jealousy and not denying her feelings for him to Maxima. By the end of Commited she has to confess that she's in love with him.

Apocalyspe to Committed: 7 episodes from the time Lois' feelings for Clark have changed till the time she admits to herself and him that she has fallen in love with him. Thats at least 3 months of the show's timeline for her feelings to grow, day by day. Adding to that, they have been working side by side 5 days a week for over a month and have never spent as much time together as they are now. Thats creates even more opportunity for Lois' feelings for him to grow deeper.

Now, having said all that, you decide which love is more belieavable. The above, or "I loved her from the first time I saw her".

I rest my case.

Well said. I'll also add in that we saw an AULois Lane who had no history with Clark Kent fall for Clark at first sight in "Apocolypse". That shows, imo, that Lois is predisposed to being attraced to Clark Kent. I think the only reason Lois hasn't gone there with Clark, in the real time-line, was because he had all the baggage with Lana.

[individuall]

their interaction at the kent farm IS why she loves him. it's not like it's suddenly come on, it's just with the things happening lately and her seeing more sides of him, her attraction and feelings are getting stronger. it is quite clear to me how much she cares about him and depends on him through the last few seasons.

IA. Nicely said :)

[eas]

Lois and Clark have been attracted to each other all along. However, you have to look to see it. Small expressions, gestures, seemingly off hand comments all revealing the attraction that was under the surface. However both were in different relationships at the time. It's even been noted by other characters in the show, but they have both been in denial about it.
In my view, this isn't something that is coming out of the blue, it's been hinted at and built upon for 4 years. You just need to look to find it.

I agree. And I bolded and underlined a part that I think gets overlooked a LOT. Not only are Lois and Clark attracted to each other, but that attraction is obvious to other people - not just random passer-byers, but folks who actually know both Lois and Clark very well. No one knows Clark better than his own mother. And she sees it.

Even Chloe has been shown, from time to time, to notice this. And she'd be the LAST person who would want to see it. Same with Lana - Lana notices the pull right from the start. Now, in "Toxic", we see Chloe try to gently pry details of their relationship out of Clark and Clark becomes defensive.... he changes the subject, because he's not ready to go there. But it's obvious that Chloe has noticed the change in Clark when it comes to Lois and realizes that something is going on. I don't think this was out of the blue, and actually rather builds on a lot of what Chloe's attitude has been towards Lois/Clark since S4.

[SnowBird]

Well said. I'll also add in that we saw an AULois Lane who had no history with Clark Kent fall for Clark at first sight in "Apocolypse". That shows, imo, that Lois is predisposed to being attraced to Clark Kent. I think the only reason Lois hasn't gone there with Clark, in the real time-line, was because he had all the baggage with Lana.

Since you brought up Lana. I thought Lois sounded a little jealous of Lana when Clark said the house was lonely. Lois told him she didn't want to hear about Lana. I thought that sounded a little harsh after she had consoled Clark at the farm with the good bye video. Lana coming back is going to be interesting. I agree, until Clark closes the door on Lana, Lois plus Clark is going to be stalled with hints of how they feel about one another. But, going slow is the best idea because as I said before, it's the journey that is the fun part.

[Timester]

So you agree with me?

Uh, no? Because what you said happened also on "Lois & Clark" and Bryne's Superman origin.

Heck, it took 4 years on Smallville to Lois fall for Clark, while it took 1 year on "Lois & Clark" and 2-3 on the comics.

[myankskent]

In 5 episodes she is declaring her love? For pity's sake, what exactly has he done but wear nicer clothes.


First of all, it's not 5 episodes. I think that all of the episodes in seasons 4-7 should matter as well, since Lois is not joining the show this season. What exactly has Clark done? Well, end his relationship with Lana is certainly one thing. He's also decided to work at the DP, where he is now around Lois more than anyone else. I think these are the reasons why Clois is changing this season. More time together means that something is bound to change sooner or later.



They had plenty of interaction at the Kent Farm



Which was all prior to Clark moving on from Lana and deciding to become a reporter at the DP. Clark has changed a lot this season. If the audience can notice the changes, I'm sure the characters within the show can notice it as well.

[baudyhallee]

I think one thing that COMMITTED tried to do and did it rather successfully was to take us back to all those episodes in previous seasons where Clark and Lois connected. I rewatched JINXED today to check out Clark in his championship football jersey. Not only did Clark give Lois the jersey to wear, but he also gave her the red plaid shirt he wore throughout the rest of JINXED (which was the same one he wore on his first day of work). Lois wasn't even in that episode in S4.

All the callbacks to CRIMSON, HYDRO, PARIAH, JUSTICE, etc etc etc were PS3's way of making a case for Clark and Lois to have deep feelings for one another. It's not light switched -- we've been given clues throughout 4 seasons. Even the Chloe and Lois relationship is back!

So no I don't feel it was rushed at all. I've been waiting for this party to get started since S6 -- before they lightswitched Clana again for 1.5 seasons.

[unfocused]

In 5 episodes she is declaring her love? For pity's sake

5 episodes? :rotfl: Where did you hide the rock you've been under for the past 4+ years?

I've come to the conclusion that this "rushed" argument is nothing more than just some lame excuse to complain. There's been a huge lack of complaining this season because Smallvilles been pretty good. And I think some people are just looking for any silly reason to complain (note I said "some people," not referring to everyone whose been complaining about this).

To think that after 4 years in which two people have flirted, lived together, worked together, been there for each other, and spent a lot of time together... is "rushing" that relationship... is nonsense. But what does makes sense is that a person who is known for disliking the show would find this silly reason to complain about it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing these two people together. They are not both in love with eachother yet, but they both do know it is a valid option for themselves. Also, don't forget, their relationship is inevitable. So expect to see the hints at it and the eventual romance someday.

[Dodge006]

5 episodes? :rotfl: Where did you hide the rock you've been under for the past 4+ years?

I've come to the conclusion that this "rushed" argument is nothing more than just some lame excuse to complain. There's been a huge lack of complaining this season because Smallvilles been pretty good. And I think some people are just looking for any silly reason to complain (note I said "some people," not referring to everyone whose been complaining about this).

To think that after 4 years in which two people have flirted, lived together, worked together, been there for each other, and spent a lot of time together... is "rushing" that relationship... is nonsense. But what does makes sense is that a person who is known for disliking the show would find this silly reason to complain about it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing these two people together. They are not both in love with eachother yet, but they both do know it is a valid option for themselves. Also, don't forget, their relationship is inevitable. So expect to see the hints at it and the eventual romance someday.

Good point, and I agree. However, part of the point of these sites are to do just that. Remember the fighting that happened last year when Canada got SV on Wed. before the US did? That was nothing but complaining, lol.

As for this being rushed, that's the funniest thing I've heard. My wife and I bought our 1st house 1 & 1/2 months after meeting each other, THAT was rushed, but it worked out. This has been 4 years in the making, and building past hate, friendship, and that ever so popular 4th grade "I like you, but I'm going to pretend that I don't" stuff. I say we need some "itches" scratched for Lois and Clark!!!:D

[Guidron]

There is nothing wrong with bringing these two people together. They are not both in love with eachother yet, but they both do know it is a valid option for themselves. Also, don't forget, their relationship is inevitable. So expect to see the hints at it and the eventual romance someday.

I even try to look at it from the sense that it's NOT inevitable. That is the defense that most CLois fans seem to gravitate towards. 'It's his destiny to be with Lois, so Deal with it!' While this certainly influenced my original gravitation towards being a CLois fan, I've been trying to look at it from the perspective that it's NOT his destiny to be with Lois. Even doing that, I still find Lois to be an excellent match for him. The 'Ying to his Yang' persay. :)

[individuall]

I even try to look at it from the sense that it's NOT inevitable. That is the defense that most CLois fans seem to gravitate towards. 'It's his destiny to be with Lois, so Deal with it!' While this certainly influenced my original gravitation towards being a CLois fan, I've been trying to look at it from the perspective that it's NOT his destiny to be with Lois. Even doing that, I still find Lois to be an excellent match for him. The 'Ying to his Yang' persay. :)

*high five* me too! I know I've been guilty of the "Clois: It's destiny" argument. But personally, that isn't why I ship them...Like you said I see Lois as Clark's perfect match. And the fact that they end up together is just the cherry on top of the Sundae :D

[morrigan01]

Uh, no? Because what you said happened also on "Lois & Clark" and Bryne's Superman origin.

Heck, it took 4 years on Smallville to Lois fall for Clark, while it took 1 year on "Lois & Clark" and 2-3 on the comics.

I'll take if further than that: Clark fell for Lois in episode one of LnC.

And in "Birthright" he fell in love with her the moment she saw her tell off the owner of the Daily Planet for picking on Jimmy. He hadn't even spoken to her yet.

If anything, SV has actually built a realistic close friends foundation for Clark and Lois - for four years. They're just now starting to move it into another level. The way some are saying it's being rushed, you'd think Lois had just met Clark for the first time this year and that they were going to start dating by November sweeps. :\

[SupesComicFan]

I will agree. Rushed is the opinion of the observer. I got pregnant six weeks after meeting my future husband. Rushing? I am going to say yes on this one. But, we have been married three years and have a 2.5 year old SupesComicFanBaby running around (and trying to fly off of the couch like Superman, I bring them up right). So, it's all cool. Everyone said we were rushing. Guess what? We didn't care. That's their opinion, doesn't make my marriage any less sound.

Though I still don't know how anyone who has known someone for four years can be rushing anything. Sheesh. I haven't even KNOWN my husband that long.

[stenochick]

I will agree. Rushed is the opinion of the observer. I got pregnant six weeks after meeting my future husband. Rushing? I am going to say yes on this one. But, we have been married three years and have a 2.5 year old SupesComicFanBaby running around (and trying to fly off of the couch like Superman, I bring them up right). So, it's all cool. Everyone said we were rushing. Guess what? We didn't care. That's their opinion, doesn't make my marriage any less sound.

Though I still don't know how anyone who has known someone for four years can be rushing anything. Sheesh. I haven't even KNOWN my husband that long.

That's a good point. I only knew my husband for a month before I knew I was in love with him and that we would end up married. By the time of our wedding, we had only known each other for a year. The only difference is that I was really old (late 30's) and was not on the rebound like Clark and Lois to a lesser degree.

[BULLITT]

The writers have to be careful with this.
If there is going to be a season 9, they'll have to take the foot off the gas.

It's at least along the lines of, "No tights, no flights."

[herolee10]

I agree. I don't think at all that they're rushing the Clark and Lois dynamics and their feelings as of now on Smallville. But I also agree, that it may take some strong scenes after this episode to show that Clark will Love Lois like no other, because of how long they showed Clark pining after Lana.

Like others have said. Clark and Lois have always been attracted to each other in some form of level, but their pride along with their priorities would get in the way before either would admit it fully.

Clark who was at the time the guy that Chloe wanted to be with, while Clark was pining after Lana, sure didn't make things any easier for Lois to show any sides of her attraction to Clark. Lois doesn't like playing second fiddle with anyone, and if the guy doesn't like her, she won't bother to pursue that person and brood about it. Also, Chloe is like a sister to Lois, so Lois would rather shoot herself in the leg than hurt Chloe's feelings.

Clark has also shown that he's clearly attracted to Lois, but always placed those thoughts aside, as if they were taboo because he thought that Lois would utterly reject him and wouldn't in a million years go for a guy like him, that and the fact that she's always busting his chops and he had his Lana issues going on really didn't help either.

I would say that the four years they've known each other, and the things they've gone through was preparing them for this moment when they finally realize their feelings for each other. They had to realize that they weren't right for others but for themselves.


Clark had to go out with Lana and realize she wasn't for him and Lois with Oliver, realizing that he wasn't for her.


And like others have said, I would agree that Lois clearly started to let go some of those walls in regards to how she feels Clark and slowly started to fall for him back in Season 7, maybe as early as "Siren". Over the course of that time till now, Lois has had enough time to let her feelings grow even deeper to the point where she can associate the word "Love" with them.

[Faerus]

Im sure there'll be more Clana but it wont be for long time....and as well I expect to see Lana in this season finale as well Im expecting to see characters such as Pete Ross, Martha Kent and more....

[Mr.Magic]

The writers have to be careful with this.
If there is going to be a season 9, they'll have to take the foot off the gas.

It's at least along the lines of, "No tights, no flights."

I disagree. I'd like a season of Superman. If not, what have we been waiting for all these years?

[unfocused]

Yes, "a season."

I would really hate to only see Clark in the tights and flying and calling himself Superman for just one episode, or even five. I would love it if he was Superman for an entire season, or at least most of it.

But I'm accepting the strong possibility that Clark won't even don the tights at all in this show. I do, however, trust he will be dubbed "Superman" and even fly, even for a second, in the series finale.

[amberdawn]

I think "no tights" rule still stands. Not sure about the flying.

[Dodge006]

Yes, "a season."

I would really hate to only see Clark in the tights and flying and calling himself Superman for just one episode, or even five. I would love it if he was Superman for an entire season, or at least most of it.

But I'm accepting the strong possibility that Clark won't even don the tights at all in this show. I do, however, trust he will be dubbed "Superman" and even fly, even for a second, in the series finale.

Agree with you 100% on this. I would want an entire season of him being Superman...and quite frankly a few after that. I know some poeple will want to say "the show's called 'SV', not 'The new new adventures of Superman'", but I think that's what shows how succsessful it's been. We've done in with Lana finally, and as much as I liked MR as Lex, there's now a opening for an older Lex to show up in a couple more seasons...

Sorry to get too carried away into speculations, but the last thing I'd want to see is never putting on the tights.:(

[eas]

I will agree. Rushed is the opinion of the observer. I got pregnant six weeks after meeting my future husband. Rushing? I am going to say yes on this one. But, we have been married three years and have a 2.5 year old SupesComicFanBaby running around (and trying to fly off of the couch like Superman, I bring them up right).

Good for you... I'm dressing my 14 month old up as Wonder Woman for Halloween... unfortunately, my 7 year old refuses to like Superman. (I have no clue where I went wrong. :( )

Anyway... yeah, I met and fell in love with my husband at age 18. Over a decade later, and we're still together. A soulmate is a soulmate... regardless of how long it takes to get to the alter and how old you are.

[Guidron]

Haha, yeah, my 6yr old. (wait, 6 and 1/2 year old, I get in trouble if I leave out the 1/2) is going as a Nurse. She's more into princesses. Although Smallville is known as the 'Clark show' to her. Don't let her watch it too much these days as they are doing some scarier stuff than before.

We were another whirlwind romance. Met in Feb, Pregnant by June, Married by May. I was 21 she was 18. 6 1/2 years and more in love than ever.

[eas]

^ Aw, that is so sweet!! I love it when guys say stuff like that.

My 7 year old has only seen one "SV" episode to date - "Krypto". He begged me to stay up late to watch it, when it aired. He was a huge fan of "Krypto: The Superdog" and thought the episode was a live version of that show. I let him watch it, but made him watch it on Tivo the next day. Those were the good 'ole days, when he loved "Justice League: The Animated Series" and dressed up as Flash on Halloween.

Now, he's into Pokemon. *shudder*

[Dom20]

I don't feel its being rushed, but they got to even it out more. My favorite scene from them is still from "Toxic". Because it felt like a real moment and you can see the growing feelings they have for each other. More scenes like that would really be nice in the coming episodes.

[SVsleuth]

Seems funny to me reading this thread. It seems like many Clois fans here are saying that the Clois has been building up slowly for four years, but at the same time are saying that most of you have been more like Clark was with Lana, in your personal lives: falling in love very quickly. And I'm the opposite: I'm a Clana fan, but my own relationship with my husband is more like what y'all are describing with Clark & Lois, building up over time. We were close friends for five years, then dated for six months, were engaged for six months, then got married. 22+ years later we're more in love than ever. In our "friends" days, we always clicked in an unusual way, teased each other a lot - sort of like Clark & Lois, except without the the way Lois puts Clark down all the time. I WAS attracted to him from the first time I saw him, but dismissed it for a long time, assuming he'd think I was too young for him. (He's 7 1/2 years older than me. That seemed to make more difference at 27/20, than it did at 33/25) So, from my own experience, it seems I ought to have been a Clois fan, ought to be able to relate to that. But, I'm not, because I can't stand how Lois puts Clark down all the time. It just rubs me the wrong way.

But you guys do have a point. I mean, how could Lois NOT be attracted to Clark from the first moment she saw him? He was stark naked, for crying out loud! I guess she, like me, has been dismissing it, for various reasons along the way. That's not so different from the way Clark was attracted to Lana early on, though, but was kept watching from afar for a long time before they ever took the risk to get together.

Anyway, it just struck me as funny that our personal lives seem to be the opposite of what we ship. LOL

[Dodge006]

Good for you... I'm dressing my 14 month old up as Wonder Woman for Halloween... unfortunately, my 7 year old refuses to like Superman. (I have no clue where I went wrong. :( )

Anyway... yeah, I met and fell in love with my husband at age 18. Over a decade later, and we're still together. A soulmate is a soulmate... regardless of how long it takes to get to the alter and how old you are.

Maybe your son is just into Batman...can't say I blame him...:D

But you are right about a soulmate is a soulmate...and in this case we knew it right from season 1 before Lois even came into the picture. I'm just thinking some of the people that are saying it's being rushed could be afraid that when they end up getting together, it's the end of the show.

[eas]

In our "friends" days, we always clicked in an unusual way, teased each other a lot - sort of like Clark & Lois, except without the the way Lois puts Clark down all the time.

[...]

So, from my own experience, it seems I ought to have been a Clois fan, ought to be able to relate to that. But, I'm not, because I can't stand how Lois puts Clark down all the time. It just rubs me the wrong way.

[...]

Anyway, it just struck me as funny that our personal lives seem to be the opposite of what we ship. LOL


Well, technically, our situation did mirror the Clark/Lois relationship a bit. When I first met him, I was attracted to him and I was snarky & b***hy. I was in denial about my attraction and even ended up getting engaged to someone else. After that didn't work out, my husband sought me out and forced me to acknowledge my feelings for him... and he told me how he felt. Then, we dated/were engaged for a few more years (while I finished college) and we got married when I was 22... had our first kid at 23. It took between the ages of 18-22 for us to get to the alter, but I knew he was my soul-mate the whole time.... but that doesn't mean that I was nice to him. LOL... part of the reason my first engagement didn't work out was because the guy thought I was too mean. My husband, on the other hand? He loves it... he loves verbally sparring with me and he tells me that the reason he fell in love with me was because of my sarcastic humor. His friends would tell him that I was 'too fiesty' and 'too much to handle' and he'd tell them that I was hot and exactly what he needed. (He's a very laid back, patient, and gentle sort of a guy.) He didn't fall in love with me in spite of my flaw... he says he fell in love with me because of them.

I've mellowed out a lot since I was 18. *sigh* With age comes patience, I suppose. I think having 2 kids also did it to me. But I'm still a lot more vocal with him than he is with me.... we are kind of like Lois and Clark in that way.

I think that's why I love Lois Lane so much... she reminds me of me. :)

[Mad Madam Mimm]

I have stated in various posts that I was afraid they would rush the Clois to an unbelievable conclusion (I believe the phrase used on the boards is lightswitch?). So far, I am pleased that they have elected to take it a bit slower, and I have not had my fears realized. (One of the reasons I was delighted they took out the kiss.) I understand they will have a few episodes that Lois is not in, so they have to make a certain amount of progress before that occurs. I have watched the moments pile up between Clark and Lois over the seasons, so I find the fact they are developing feelings for each other very believable... I just wanted to savor it and was worried the producers would deprive me of the best part of the romance... the moments just before those feelings are openly acknowledged and acted on. whew. I'm breathing a huge sigh of relief now.

Love at first sight is a romantic, youthful notion that is very appropriate for a first love/high school crush. The development of true, deep feelings for a person is another acknowledgment of Clark's maturity into manhood. Awesome.

[mistaguitarmasta]

When Lois admitted to the jeweler that she does love Clark, and then when she was avoiding him at the DP, I thought they were rushing the romance a LOT. But when Lois said she slipped the electrode off, I suddenly felt things snap back into place as their relationship went back to the way it has been all season. They're doing it a little faster than I would have liked, but I'm definitely enjoying it nonetheless.

[SVsleuth]

I understand what y'all are saying about the slow build up of the Clois since season 4. I maybe can begin to buy into that. But what I CAN'T stomach is for all these other characters to have to keep TELLING them outright that they are "destined" to be together, or that they spend "so" much time together, etc... It just seems dumb for others to have to point it out to them. To me, it cheapens any potential romantic relationship because it makes it seem like they only consider it after other people keep pushing them in that direction. It doesn't make it believable to me when the writers think this kind of thing is necessary in order to bring them together. I can almost see Clark in a future episode going, "Gee, maybe Chloe and Maxima, and Losh are right - maybe I could end up with somebody like Lois. Guess it can't hurt to give it a try." And it makes me cringe, because that's not the way I want to see Clark develop.

I just really hope that they'll drop all the need for stupid hints from other characters and SHOW us how & why Clark falls for Lois, instead of making him seem to back into it, or be pushed into it, or just have "no choice" in the matter because it's his "destiny". I want this show to come down on the side of free will, Clark having a choice, & being able to decide for himself what he wants. That goes for his work as Superman too. He still seems to be a reluctant hero. Was Superman ever a reluctant hero? I want to see that he is passionate about being a hero & that he is passionate about the woman he loves. So far on this show he has yet to be passionate about being a hero, & has only been passionate about his love for Lana, not Lois. For me to buy that he REALLY loves Lois, I have to see him as passionate as he ever was with Lana. If not, I'll still wish he would go back & patch things up with Lana. I guess I'm just saying that IF they want me to buy into Clark falling for Lois, they'd better sell me on it, and not just keep dropping these stupid hints. I don't like that those hints are what would ignite Clark's love for Lois. I want to see truer reasons.

I also don't like the idea of Clark coming to know that Lois has feelings for him, & only THEN beginning to consider that he could have any for her. That reminds me of what he did with Chloe back in season 3. If Clark is to fall for Lois, I'd prefer that it not be a reaction to knowing she loves him. I guess I just don't like them making him so dense. He ought to be able to know and acknowledge his own feelings. He never had a problem with that before, with Lana, so making him that way now seems to lessen the strength of what he feels for Lois.

It's easier for me to buy that Lois falls for Clark then the other way around, right now. And I'm just saying that the WAY they write it will determine whether or not I am capable of buying into it, having always been a Clana fan. They need to make it believable & not make Clark seem to be so passive in the whole process. And if they dare have Lana drop one of those "destiny" comments about Clois, I think I'll gag. It ought NOT be necessary, & demeans Clark more than ever. Give the guy a backbone and some passion. Please.

[My Clana friends DON'T want me telling PS3 this kind of thing. They'd prefer to let it happen this way, because that would seem to come across to them as that Lois is Clark's "second choice" or that he's "settling" for her. A part of me wants to agree with them. But another part of me wants to see Clark have a believable, satisfying journey to becoming Superman & to discovering the true love of his life. And if the writers write it the way I was describing above, I will be very disappointed in Clark when it's all said & done. And that's not what I want to be left with at the end. I want to be made to believe that he is a strong person, who makes strong choices, and feels passionate about saving the world, & passionate about the woman he loves.]

[Guidron]

I understand what y'all are saying about the slow build up of the Clois since season 4. I maybe can begin to buy into that. But what I CAN'T stomach is for all these other characters to have to keep TELLING them outright that they are "destined" to be together, or that they spend "so" much time together, etc... It just seems dumb for others to have to point it out to them. To me, it cheapens any potential romantic relationship because it makes it seem like they only consider it after other people keep pushing them in that direction. It doesn't make it believable to me when the writers think this kind of thing is necessary in order to bring them together. I can almost see Clark in a future episode going, "Gee, maybe Chloe and Maxima, and Losh are right - maybe I could end up with somebody like Lois. Guess it can't hurt to give it a try." And it makes me cringe, because that's not the way I want to see Clark develop.

I've never really viewed it as the other characters outright telling them they are destined to be together (other than Maxima perhaps).

Oliver's comment about it seemed more like he was trying to get a dig in against Lois than pointing it out. Chloe's comment, early this season, came across as more teasing than anything IMO.


I just really hope that they'll drop all the need for stupid hints from other characters and SHOW us how & why Clark falls for Lois, instead of making him seem to back into it, or be pushed into it, or just have "no choice" in the matter because it's his "destiny". I want this show to come down on the side of free will, Clark having a choice, & being able to decide for himself what he wants. That goes for his work as Superman too. He still seems to be a reluctant hero. Was Superman ever a reluctant hero? I want to see that he is passionate about being a hero & that he is passionate about the woman he loves. So far on this show he has yet to be passionate about being a hero, & has only been passionate about his love for Lana, not Lois. For me to buy that he REALLY loves Lois, I have to see him as passionate as he ever was with Lana. If not, I'll still wish he would go back & patch things up with Lana. I guess I'm just saying that IF they want me to buy into Clark falling for Lois, they'd better sell me on it, and not just keep dropping these stupid hints. I don't like that those hints are what would ignite Clark's love for Lois. I want to see truer reasons.

The seem to be going in this direction this season. Clark is taking more responsibility in his life by getting a new job at the planet, moving on from Lana and finally starting to figure things out for himself. I haven't read too many of the spoilers, because I want to be surprised this season, but it seems like they will be continuing in this trend later on with Clark coming up with his identity and starting to proactively save people.


I also don't like the idea of Clark coming to know that Lois has feelings for him, & only THEN beginning to consider that he could have any for her. That reminds me of what he did with Chloe back in season 3. If Clark is to fall for Lois, I'd prefer that it not be a reaction to knowing she loves him. I guess I just don't like them making him so dense. He ought to be able to know and acknowledge his own feelings. He never had a problem with that before, with Lana, so making him that way now seems to lessen the strength of what he feels for Lois.

See now the way I view this is that Clark has really had some hidden feelings for Lois for a long time. However, never really believed that they could be reciprocated due to the way she normally acts around him. Now, knowing that Lois views him as more than some 'Smallville farmboy' can allow those feelings to come to the surface. I like the fact that they don't have Clark pining for Lois like he did for Lana. It prevents the 'pedestal' scenario where the girl/guy can't live up to the admirers expectations.


It's easier for me to buy that Lois falls for Clark then the other way around, right now. And I'm just saying that the WAY they write it will determine whether or not I am capable of buying into it, having always been a Clana fan. They need to make it believable & not make Clark seem to be so passive in the whole process. And if they are have Lana drop one of those "destiny" comments about Clois, I think I'll gag. It ought NOT be necessary, & demeans Clark more than ever. Give the guy a backbone and some passion. Please.

I agree. I hope that Lana doesn't push Clark in that direction. I think that when it comes around though, Lana might actually be trying to do the opposite, saying she made a mistake, but Clark will know that Lois is really the one for him.

[justme_007]

i´m sorry it´s being rushed. Just accept that. What else could the writers two?? They didn´t have the possibilities of bringing more ships. I think we have had too many until now.

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correction could the writers do??? (finger mistake jejeje)

[Kal-ed]

Please tell me she isn't that shallow that the one scene in Plastique where he puts on a new shirt was all it took.

Clark has rescued Lois, more times than she can count, he´s been there for her, when she dated AC and got her heart broken, when she dated Graham and he was looking after her safety, he brought Ollie to the Thanksgiving diner cause he knew that´s what she wanted deep down, he conforted her when she was sad about her break up and aparently he´s often taking care of little things like "Clark promised to fix my antena". She´s seen he is good with kids and that he can be very considerate. Like some said by season 5 we could hear her say, in all honesty that she would consider herself lucky to land a guy as honorable as Clark, still nothing happened. We know that the story (whether us the audience can see it or not) they have chemistry hence the "he could teach Ollie a thing or two".

Clark´s done more for her than any man in her life and at times, when Lois has been a total b#$ch to Clark, other shippers have been quick to point out that she´s being ungratefull, after all he´s done for her; now all of the sudden there´s not a real good reason for her to fall for him:confused:

After all this, just because she was surprised at how good he looked when he changed, doesnt mean that´s when she fell for him. I think that in scenes like in Apocalypse and Artic, we could see there was something there, something she probably wouldnt admit to herself, something she still didnt admit by the second half of Commited, it took their lives being at risk for her to finally come to terms with what she´s been feeling.

But let me get this straight:

Clark is smart, brave, heroic, chivalrous, considerate, reliable, noble, honorable, funny and witty (specially around Lois), he listens to her, he saves her, he conforts her, he takes care of her, he´s there when she needs him, he´s really handsome, tall and has a solid rock body (did that sound too gay? :lol: ), the question is not if or why Lois fell for Clark, its why wouldnt she, or why didnt this happen earlier, gawd knows it takes most of the girls that walk into this show an epi or less to fall for the kent charm.

Plus, although in real life, the issue can be debated, in SV verse soulmates exist and we know Lois is Clark´s so all the things I just listed, aside, they would naturally feel drawn to eachother.

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i´m sorry it´s being rushed. Just accept that. What else could the writers do?? They didn´t have the possibilities of bringing more ships. I think we have had too many until now.


I dont know if it is what you mean but let me tell you what I think, they didnt rush it in the sense that, it didnt come out of left field and basis for a romance has been stablished for 4 long years but I think that in terms of how fast they are realizing their feelings is a tad rushed, I still think that the atraction goes a long way back and it did took me by surprise (although I had been reading spoilers) that the feelings would be so evident this early on, still its completely understandable that they decided to (not rush) speed things up a notch, considering this is a potencial last season and things had been stagnant for quite some time, its like Timester said about a month ago, its not that the new showrunners are rushing things, its that AlMiles did things too slow and the change of pace is what took some people by surprise, Clark entering the DP or at least journalism was also long over due so it had to be sped up.

But if one considere´s that Superman´s soulmate has been in the show for the past 4 years, the fact that now its the first time something ouvertly romantic is happening between them, is a clear indication that things havent been rushed.

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The writers have to be careful with this.
If there is going to be a season 9, they'll have to take the foot off the gas.

It's at least along the lines of, "No tights, no flights."


Well, Lana´s coming back, that´s like hitting the emergency breaks. And will definetively send Lois running for the hills, in fact Im pretty sure that even after Lana is gone (after her 5 episode arc) Lois will think Clark is still in love with Lana and will be stubornly avoiding him and/or the issue, so I wouldnt worry about it happening too soon.

[eas]

I have stated in various posts that I was afraid they would rush the Clois to an unbelievable conclusion (I believe the phrase used on the boards is lightswitch?). So far, I am pleased that they have elected to take it a bit slower, and I have not had my fears realized. (One of the reasons I was delighted they took out the kiss.) I understand they will have a few episodes that Lois is not in, so they have to make a certain amount of progress before that occurs. I have watched the moments pile up between Clark and Lois over the seasons, so I find the fact they are developing feelings for each other very believable... I just wanted to savor it and was worried the producers would deprive me of the best part of the romance... the moments just before those feelings are openly acknowledged and acted on. whew. I'm breathing a huge sigh of relief now.

Love at first sight is a romantic, youthful notion that is very appropriate for a first love/high school crush. The development of true, deep feelings for a person is another acknowledgment of Clark's maturity into manhood. Awesome.

I agree... I was also happy they took out the kiss (too much, too soon) and I also posted that I'm kind of glad that Lois isn't in "Prey".

We do kind of need a breather from the two back-to-back Clois episodes. Taking a step back (especially after the way "Committed" ended) will be good for the build up of the ship.

[Guidron]

I agree... I was also happy they took out the kiss (too much, too soon) and I also posted that I'm kind of glad that Lois isn't in "Prey".

We do kind of need a breather from the two back-to-back Clois episodes. Taking a step back (especially after the way "Committed" ended) will be good for the build up of the ship.

Agreed. The Kiss just wouldn't have fit into that episode properly.

While we do need a breather, I hope there is some form of explanation for Lois' absence. It wouldn't really make sense to me to end Committed the way they did and then just drop the whole Clark/Lois thing completely for the next few episodes.

[eas]

Wow, excellent post, SVSleuth. Just got a chance to read it now.



But what I CAN'T stomach is for all these other characters to have to keep TELLING them outright that they are "destined" to be together, or that they spend "so" much time together, etc... It just seems dumb for others to have to point it out to them. To me, it cheapens any potential romantic relationship because it makes it seem like they only consider it after other people keep pushing them in that direction. It doesn't make it believable to me when the writers think this kind of thing is necessary in order to bring them together. I can almost see Clark in a future episode going, "Gee, maybe Chloe and Maxima, and Losh are right - maybe I could end up with somebody like Lois. Guess it can't hurt to give it a try." And it makes me cringe, because that's not the way I want to see Clark develop.

Well, here's how I see the 'hints' from the other characters: Irony and Foreshadowing. I think I would be more scared of it playing it out like you fear if Clark immediately jumping into whiny, pining, and moping mode everytime someone dropped this sort of hint around him.

Instead, he gets annoyed/offended/irritated/amused/irked. It never comes off as though he's actually starting to view Lois that way just because someone mentioned it to him that she's his destiny. In fact, if someone implies they are together or something more than friends, his response is usually incredulous laughter. "Lois? LOL... Ah, hell no." In fact, what's interesting is that LOIS is the only who prompts that sort of response from him... one where he denies, denies, denies. Chloe's love made him a little sad. Lana's love as a whole other ball game... he always wore his heart on his sleeve for her. Lois, on the other hand, causes him to do a triple take whenever someone links them romantically and he won't even consider it.

So, my point is: He's clearly not feeling like folks are backing him into a corner here. And when the point came, in "Committed", when he could have felt like Lois's declaration of love backed him into a corner, her response was to hide and his response was to seek her out.

I don't think he felt obligated to love her in those moments when he thought she was in love with him. I think he felt like he deserved to the know the truth. Huge difference. When Maxima told him that he felt a bond with Lois, and that's the only reason he was able to snap out of her control at the sight of Lois, he completely disregarded her words as the words of a wack-job. He clearly took her words regarding Lois with a grain of salt, because all he talked to Lois about was whether or not he'd ever find his soulmate. Would he be destined to be alone? Not, "Are we destined to be together, Lois?"

Lois, for her part, had already fallen in love with Clark well before Maxima pointed it out to her. That much was pretty obvious. And I don't think that folks linking them together is what made her fall in love with him. As Kal-ed pointed out, Lois doesn't need people telling her that Clark is awesome for her to realize he's awesome. Any breathing woman wouldn't be able to hang out with the guy for an extended period of time and not fall for him. And Lois is a healthy, breathing, woman. LOL


I just really hope that they'll drop all the need for stupid hints from other characters and SHOW us how & why Clark falls for Lois, instead of making him seem to back into it, or be pushed into it, or just have "no choice" in the matter because it's his "destiny". I want this show to come down on the side of free will, Clark having a choice, & being able to decide for himself what he wants. That goes for his work as Superman too. He still seems to be a reluctant hero. Was Superman ever a reluctant hero? I want to see that he is passionate about being a hero & that he is passionate about the woman he loves. So far on this show he has yet to be passionate about being a hero, & has only been passionate about his love for Lana, not Lois. For me to buy that he REALLY loves Lois, I have to see him as passionate as he ever was with Lana. If not, I'll still wish he would go back & patch things up with Lana. I guess I'm just saying that IF they want me to buy into Clark falling for Lois, they'd better sell me on it, and not just keep dropping these stupid hints. I don't like that those hints are what would ignite Clark's love for Lois. I want to see truer reasons.

Well, this a bit like chicken and the egg. What comes first? Clark and Lois's attraction for each other or the hints? In the eyes of this beholder, the comments of their friends and family are a reaction to the outward attraction and sparks between the two. The hints come after the sparks. They argue and bicker... Chloe makes a comment. They meet and look good together... Lana makes a comment. Ollie checks out how good looking Clark is and gets annoyed that his girlfriend managed to leave out that part when she kept talking about Clark and he makes a comment about it.

The fact is that the two *do* act like an old, bickering, married couple sometimes (the best of Clois always do) and folks pick up on it and make a comment. I think that the comments stem from their behavior and they don't behave a certain way in reaction to the comments.

Meaning: I don't see Clark waking up one day and saying, "Just because 800 people and their sister have mentioned to me that Lois is hot, I've decided that I also think she's hot." Clark is not like that, to me. He never does anything because he's backed into it (in fact, one major theme of "SV" is that Jor-el keeps backing him into a corner and he's a rebel). And, frankly, Clark knows that Lois is hot. No one has to point that out to him. He also knows that they're good friends and that he likes her. Is he in love with her? I don't know. But I imagine that when he figures out that he is in love with her (or he falls completely) the catalyst won't be that someone told him to. If that was the case, then he'd have been out of love with Lana MANY years ago... how many people told him to stop chasing after Lana? Lex, Martha, Chloe, Pete, Lois... everyone - at one point or another - told him to give up on Lana. But he, stubbornly, did what he wanted, anyway.

Same with Lois - when the time comes, he'll use his own head. No one can force him to love someone - or to fall out of love with someone. It always happens according to his own timeline.

And I do think that his "Superman side" is bursting out this year... he's proactive and loving it. He's no longer a reluctant hero and part of that is that he's put the past (and Lana) behind him.


I also don't like the idea of Clark coming to know that Lois has feelings for him, & only THEN beginning to consider that he could have any for her. That reminds me of what he did with Chloe back in season 3. If Clark is to fall for Lois, I'd prefer that it not be a reaction to knowing she loves him. I guess I just don't like them making him so dense. He ought to be able to know and acknowledge his own feelings. He never had a problem with that before, with Lana, so making him that way now seems to lessen the strength of what he feels for Lois.

Well, they had a chance of doing that in "Committed" and they dodged that. She convinced him that she's not in love with him... and he believed her. With some disappointment, actually. LOL

I think that his love for Lois will be more intense than his love Lana. But it won't come across that way... because I think that he's much more mature now and is able to control his emotions more.

When I watched the "Calling" cake scene (Clana) and compared it to the "Oracle" cake scene (Clois) I was struck by the major differences in Clark between the two scenes. With Lana, he was almost child-like in his awe and devotion... you could tell that he was slightly amazed that such a wonderful person would deign to love him. In "Oracle", he's kind of snarky with Lois and she gives him sincere advice, anyway. She plows through, even though he's being a bit of an a$$... and his response is to soften towards her and reveal his greatest fear... being alone and not finding someone to measure up to Lana. She responds that - one day - he'll meet someone even better... and he looks kind of amazed. Not amazed that he found his soulmate (it wasn't some sort of epiphany moment on his part) but amazed that a girl who he used to not even like could know him "better than anyone". It was a moment between two equals... he didn't feel like Lois deigned him with friendship... she gave it and he accepted it.

My point is... Clark always placed Lana on a pedastal and that pedastal broke under the weight of his high expectations. Lois stands toe-to-toe with him and so she'll never fall in his eyes... his love for her will just as intense as his love for Lana... but it'll be more solid and real.

And I think we've seen the foundation for that built up over the course of the past 4 seasons.


It's easier for me to buy that Lois falls for Clark then the other way around, right now. And I'm just saying that the WAY they write it will determine whether or not I am capable of buying into it, having always been a Clana fan. They need to make it believable & not make Clark seem to be so passive in the whole process.

Well, he's not passive, that's for sure. Did you see the way he chased after her when she tried to avoid him? She tried to take the stairs and he made her get on the elevator with him? That's not a passive Clark Kent, by any means. He was a man on a mission: "Must find out if she's really in love with me." :lol:

I've never seen Clark act like that before... he usually looks so uncomfortable and just... freaked out... when dealing with professions of love. But, this time, he was like, "OK, what's going on... we are going to talk about this."


And if they dare have Lana drop one of those "destiny" comments about Clois, I think I'll gag. It ought NOT be necessary, & demeans Clark more than ever. Give the guy a backbone and some passion. Please.

I'm sorry, I think this is definitely going to happen. Not because I think that they need to do it to demean Clark or anything. I think that Clark needs to hear it from Lana that she's okay with it.

My hope is that Clark and Lana are friends, at the end of it all. That he forgives her and she moves on... that they realize they weren't meant to be lovers, but they'll be great friends for the rest of their lives. For that to happen, they need some sort of bittersweet moment where Lana acknowledges that she knows what's going on between her and Lois & she's OK with it.

Personally, I hope she makes a comment that references what she said back when she first met Lois, "The best ones always start that way....". It would be great if she brought that up with a bit of a giggle and rubs it into Clark that she was right.

I don't know about you, but I'm ready for some fun and non-angsty Clana. I want Lana to exit with dignity and a high note. And this could be part and parcel of that. I don't see why this has to cheapen or debase Clark at all -- especially since his response will probably be to just roll his eyes.


[My Clana friends DON'T want me telling PS3 this kind of thing. They'd prefer to let it happen this way, because that would seem to come across to them as that Lois is Clark's "second choice" or that he's "settling" for her. A part of me wants to agree with them. But another part of me wants to see Clark have a believable, satisfying journey to becoming Superman & to discovering the true love of his life. And if the writers write it the way I was describing above, I will be very disappointed in Clark when it's all said & done. And that's not what I want to be left with at the end. I want to be made to believe that he is a strong person, who makes strong choices, and feels passionate about saving the world, & passionate about the woman he loves.]

Well, to be honest, a lot of "SV" fans won't see a satisfying end to Clark's love life if he picks Lois regardless of how the writers write it.

7 years of Clark being love with Lana (or thinking he is) while being best friends with Chloe. Some folks see the subtle thread of Clois that has been woven through the story for the past 4 years... others don't. I don't think that ALL fans will be happy with the way this story ends. AlMiles said that and I think that PS3 would also agree about this.

The best you can hope for (and any other Clana fan) is that Clana ends with dignitiy. But it will end... and Clois has already begun. Whether PS3 write it well or not is entirely subjective.

[x THE CHEETAH x]

I understand what y'all are saying about the slow build up of the Clois since season 4. I maybe can begin to buy into that. But what I CAN'T stomach is for all these other characters to have to keep TELLING them outright that they are "destined" to be together, or that they spend "so" much time together, etc... It just seems dumb for others to have to point it out to them. To me, it cheapens any potential romantic relationship because it makes it seem like they only consider it after other people keep pushing them in that direction. It doesn't make it believable to me when the writers think this kind of thing is necessary in order to bring them together. I can almost see Clark in a future episode going, "Gee, maybe Chloe and Maxima, and Losh are right - maybe I could end up with somebody like Lois. Guess it can't hurt to give it a try." And it makes me cringe, because that's not the way I want to see Clark develop.

I just really hope that they'll drop all the need for stupid hints from other characters and SHOW us how & why Clark falls for Lois, instead of making him seem to back into it, or be pushed into it, or just have "no choice" in the matter because it's his "destiny". I want this show to come down on the side of free will, Clark having a choice, & being able to decide for himself what he wants. That goes for his work as Superman too. He still seems to be a reluctant hero. Was Superman ever a reluctant hero? I want to see that he is passionate about being a hero & that he is passionate about the woman he loves. So far on this show he has yet to be passionate about being a hero, & has only been passionate about his love for Lana, not Lois. For me to buy that he REALLY loves Lois, I have to see him as passionate as he ever was with Lana. If not, I'll still wish he would go back & patch things up with Lana. I guess I'm just saying that IF they want me to buy into Clark falling for Lois, they'd better sell me on it, and not just keep dropping these stupid hints. I don't like that those hints are what would ignite Clark's love for Lois. I want to see truer reasons.

I also don't like the idea of Clark coming to know that Lois has feelings for him, & only THEN beginning to consider that he could have any for her. That reminds me of what he did with Chloe back in season 3. If Clark is to fall for Lois, I'd prefer that it not be a reaction to knowing she loves him. I guess I just don't like them making him so dense. He ought to be able to know and acknowledge his own feelings. He never had a problem with that before, with Lana, so making him that way now seems to lessen the strength of what he feels for Lois.

It's easier for me to buy that Lois falls for Clark then the other way around, right now. And I'm just saying that the WAY they write it will determine whether or not I am capable of buying into it, having always been a Clana fan. They need to make it believable & not make Clark seem to be so passive in the whole process. And if they dare have Lana drop one of those "destiny" comments about Clois, I think I'll gag. It ought NOT be necessary, & demeans Clark more than ever. Give the guy a backbone and some passion. Please.

[My Clana friends DON'T want me telling PS3 this kind of thing. They'd prefer to let it happen this way, because that would seem to come across to them as that Lois is Clark's "second choice" or that he's "settling" for her. A part of me wants to agree with them. But another part of me wants to see Clark have a believable, satisfying journey to becoming Superman & to discovering the true love of his life. And if the writers write it the way I was describing above, I will be very disappointed in Clark when it's all said & done. And that's not what I want to be left with at the end. I want to be made to believe that he is a strong person, who makes strong choices, and feels passionate about saving the world, & passionate about the woman he loves.]

Try not to take what I say as an insult, because I obviously don't know you personally...

... However, based off of your posts, I think the only way you'll be happy and the only way you'll believe anything, is if you write the story yourself. It seems if the storyline and script for each character on the show doesn't fit every aspect of how you think they should be, then it's wrong, with no exceptions.

[Fractured]

Honestly I haven't been bothered to read all the posts...but...its anything but rushed, as I've glanced over the posts and could see many of you agree. Real life relationships/love can happen within a week (i know THATS rushed) so 4 years is certainly not rushing anything. The thing that annoys me is how they keep DENYING IT! and, like someone else said, that other characters are constantly pointing out how they are destined to be together. If anything, can we have some further progress?! I mean its about time lois admitted it and that bit blew me away in that episode. I was expecting her to say no the whole time. But lying about it afterwards when discussing it with clark? Is he REALLY that thick that he cant tell by her expressions and speech that she is lying?

The writers are making Clark seem stupid, no offence intended but they really are. And I'm also sick of seeing him act like a complete dope at times. The wedding ring incident for example.

More to the point, I think their relationship progress needs to....progress!

[amberdawn]

Is he REALLY that thick that he cant tell by her expressions and speech that she is lying?

That is what actually bothered me most about last week's episode. It was so obvious.

[Fractured]

I dunno. Maybe he does notice the lies, But the writers made him too much of a p*ssy to have the courage to admit to Lois that he knows. I mean CMON!! he fkin throws bad guys through buildings! Did the writers TRY to DELIBERATELY give him a form of schizophrenia? where hes a courageous-super-human-bad-guy-ass-kicking-machine but hes a chicken **** that pretty much stumbles for words when an emotionally aquainted girl talks to him?

Also. WHEN IS HE GOING TO FLY!!! In the very first episode he is hovering above his bed for crying out loud!:mad:

This is why i love Bizarro...he has all the good qualities and traits of the original Clark Kent, but hes not a p*ssy. I mean he grabbed lois's ass, and he scored with lana. I dont care that hes evil, makes him more unpredictable.

[unfocused]

I think it was the very second episode he hovered over his bed.

[zorasuperman]

yes i do believe that clark not seeing through lois is what gets me soo mad
i mean come on are you that thick and cant see wats in front of your own eyes
but then again i forgave him with that whole speech with lois and how he was afraid the right girl could have been all along with him but he was blind and didnt see. lol how ironic.

[geminis]

With Terri and Dean's Lois and Clark they were fighting the first season and an old married couple by the end of the fourth and final season. Smallville is ANYthing but rushed comparatively speaking. People were bored and left and never were more episodes made. With Smallville's Lois and Clark it's all about the chase. And the chase hasn't really commenced yet. Again, their love is not being rushed.

[dixiepixie]

I don't think it's rushed at all. I really enjoy the "tension" between them. And to me things look like they're really starting to heat up!

[pizzahead2490]

yes i do believe that clark not seeing through lois is what gets me soo mad
i mean come on are you that thick and cant see wats in front of your own eyes
but then again i forgave him with that whole speech with lois and how he was afraid the right girl could have been all along with him but he was blind and didnt see. lol how ironic.

you have no idea i was so pissed off with clark for that.