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amazingP
10-18-2008, 09:55 AM
Ok so I know most people probably don't want to hear about Lana anymore...but hear me out.

When Lana broke it off with Clark they both loved each other still. The reason they had to break it off was because:

a) Lana was holding Clark back from doing greater things - and she loved him enough to let him go

b) Clark knows (based on episode 100, the brainiac coma...etc) that being with Lana is only going to cause her pain. If the pain doesn't come from the lies about his secret (which is a large part of the story of Smallville) then it comes from people trying to hurt Lana to get to Clark. So Clark also knows that, even though it hurts and he still loves her, it causes less pain to Lana to not be with her.

How can you explain that being with Lois is going to be any different? I suppose this is something wrong with the superman story in general...

So I have 2 questions:
a) why would Clark start chasing Lois when he continues to love Lana (even though they can't be together)
b) how would Clark think anything is going to be different between Clark and Lois and between Clark and Lana?

If Smallville doesn't answer these questions than they are betraying all the stories they have created up until this point...and maybe it is time to end it before they destroy it

SVsleuth
10-18-2008, 10:08 AM
I agree. These questions are begging to be answered, & ought to be one of the points of the entire series. There has to be a purpose for all of the story they've told. It needs to be shown WHY Clois will work, but Clana didn't. I've tried asking Clois fans. The best answer they've given me so far is that Lois isn't a high maintainance woman & is fun. It sounds like Clark is willing to settle for a surface relationship that gives a bit of levity to his life, and is unwilling to ever again invest his heart & soul in a relationship like he did with Lana. The Clois fans seem fine with that. I wouldn't be, if I were them. I'd want to see that Clark & Lois have connected on a deep emotional level, and that Clark is able to open up to her in a way he never could with Lana. I wouldn't be satisfied to just have "fun" banter, and no depth. But they seem to be fine with that, so fine. I'll choose to believe that Lana will forever be Clark's one & only true love, & Lois is just there to provide levity to his stressful life. I can live with that.

amazingP
10-18-2008, 11:04 AM
I guess if that's the angle people look at it with (And even that isn't much of an explanation) than you're right - she isn't able to be anything more than levity.

But why would anyone want just that for Clark? Why move away from the stories that really made Clark a hero? The stories of making hard decisions and sacrificing for the greater good? That is what has made Smallville great.

alienkinfolk
10-18-2008, 11:12 AM
Tptb will have to put resolve to Lana and the only way to do it imo is if Clark does it. Lana is still a big part of SV. love her or hate her she impacts the decisions of the hero

LoveHurts38
10-18-2008, 11:20 AM
Lana who.. just messing...we will just have to wait and see what tptb have in store for Lana and I hope it's a good conclusion for Lana and Clark.

susangail
10-18-2008, 11:20 AM
I suspect that no answer will satisfy, but I'll give it a shot.

Lois is a stronger woman, both physically and emotionally, than Lana. This seems to be true in any Superman story where both characters appear. Clark will simply be able to worry less about Lois, and she is better equipped temperamentally to deal with Clark. Lois can and will stand up and tell Clark what he needs to hear, and that's what will enable them to reach an understanding beyond clana.

Flowergirl123
10-18-2008, 11:26 AM
Lana is comming back in the 10th episode. I think so that she and Clark can say goodbye for the last time. It's time for Clana to end. It's sad but the show is supposed to be comming to an end pretty soon and I really think it should with Lex gone and all and Tom Welling and Alison probaly really want to move on to other things after it's over. And to answer your question Lana and Clark didn't work out because he taught her not to trust him. Because all those years he didn't trust her and Lex messed with her big time. But Clark even said in Season seven that he taught Lana not to trust him. And if they don't have trust they have nothing.

Hopefulsuicide
10-18-2008, 11:26 AM
well the way it is SUPPOSED to work, is that Clark secretly worships the ground Lois walks on, but he's too afraid to tell her who he really is so her doesn't try for anything more than friendship. because he is in his disguise with this he thinks she is as safe as she can be, but slowly the feelings start to grow and Lois starts to wake up and smell the roses. she falls for her best friend and partner because he is everything you would want from a man. even when they are in a relationship, there are many interpretations that have Clark trying to call it off because it's too dangerous, but the difference between Lana and Lois is that Lois doesn't care. her life IS dangerous, with or without him in it, and she'd much rather have him in it. she doesn't LET him push her away because she is such a pit bull :)

not really sure how it works if you have Lois fall for Clark first...

ginnyfan
10-18-2008, 11:41 AM
A) Lois won't hold Clark back from doing great things. She's out running around chasing danger herself.

B) Clark won't save Lois from danger by NOT being with her. She's going to run out and get into trouble and be in danger Clark or no Clark; Superman or no Superman.

To answer your questions:

1. Clark won't chase Lois while he loves Lana. I think Lana broke his heart when she left him the DVD. So there are lingering feelings and he still has to heal from his relationship with Lana. I think we've already seen that he's trying to move on at the end of "Toxic." So before anything happens with Lois his relationship with Lana has to be resolved.

I do think Clark cares for Lois and has cared for Lois for a long time. The way they feel about each other has been largely undefined and basically blanketed with this playful rivalry and banter. So... I think "Instinct" was trying to make it clear that something is going on between Lois and Clark that neither of them are aware of. When Clark chased Lois out of the elevator he was acting on instinct. Why? Well... that's a question Clark will have to ask himself as Martha suggested at the end of "Crimson."

2. Lois Lane is NOT Lana Lang. They are very different women. So right there is enough reason that Clark's relationship with Lois will be different than his relationship with Lana.

Some things will be the same, situationally. I don't think we'll see the Superman years on this show but Clark will have a secret hero identity and Lois won't know. Superman will swoop in to save her and Clark Kent will constantly leave without explaination. But there the similarities end.

Lois doesn't really have secrets. Lois isn't passive aggressive. So anything Clark does that bothers Lois is going to result in an immediate confrontation. With Lana and Clark... things would kind of sit in stasis for long periods of time. They were both unhappy about something or they were both worried about something but wouldn't really confront the issue (the black ship, Bizarro, Lexana) until things got REALLY BAD.

Lois takes the mickey out of Clark. She teases him and makes him laugh at himself and vice verse when things could go brooding and angsty. Lois is anti moping. On the negative side this could be seen as insensitive but on the plus side, Clark has a tendency to mope around and so... Lois counter acts that well.

In general:
IMO when you fall in love with someone new that's just it, you fall in love with SOMEONE NEW. So Lois is NOT going to be like Lana or do what Lana did for Clark. She's a COMPLETELY different woman. LOL! So... Clark is probably going to discover some brand new likes and dislikes that he never knew he had. Perhaps he'll discover that he LIKES fiery, unpredictable women who are fierce fighters when it comes to loved ones, and injustice. Perhaps he'll discover that he NEEDS a woman who will bust his chops, keep him in check and not sugar coat her feelings and emotions. *shrug*

If you're waiting for Clois to be Clana 2.0. It's not going to happen. Clois is not going to look much like Clana AT ALL. I think we've already seen that. Clark and Lois' friendship was very different from Clark and Lana's friendship. Now that they are in that in between "what's going on, how do I really feel about you" transitional period - again it's very different from Clana's in between friends and dating period. So... There's not much comparison IMO. Clois is DIFFERENT than Clana (thank goodness) but that doesn't mean that won't lead to a love that is strong and true.

Clana has grown on me over the years. At it's best there was something soft and sweet about it. But not all lasting love looks the same. Soft and Sweet is NOT Lois and Clark. They have soft and sweet moments but... sometimes Clois is volatile, explosive, tempestuous. :D

ETA: erm... what susangail said.

individuall
10-18-2008, 11:42 AM
You raise two very good questions.
for your first one: I really can't wait to see how they handle the Lana return I hope it gives good closure for Clark and Lana.
As for question b: The only answer I can come up with is that..Lois is different. And their relationship will be different from Clana. I think both Lois/Clark have a little ways to go for themselves individually before they get into a relationship with one another, though. I also think the mistakes Clark made in his relationship with Lana will help him in his relationship with Lois, in the future.
Also I believe maturity has a lot to do with it to for both Clark and Lois. They'll be at a different stage in their life, more adult and mature when they do decide to have a relationship, than Clark and Lana. They'll both have experience under their belts: heartache, love, sacrifice, trials etc. Also I think the fact they have been friends for such a long time and are close, will also be a factor towards Clois' success as a couple.
But, yes I hope the show does delve a little deeper to answer your questions better. But that's just my take.

ginnyfan
10-18-2008, 11:45 AM
It will be interesting to see what Lana has to say about her relationship with Clark and why it will or will not work.

Bizarrolover
10-18-2008, 11:58 AM
I used to like season 1 and 2 Lana, when she was a proactive, sweet girl with goals. She organized blood donations, she reopened the Talon, but she got tired of all that all too soon and ran away to study art in Paris only to return three months later. When she was with Jason, she was a completely different person, all mysterious and sexy. In season 5, she was with <ST1:pClark once again and returned to her 'girl next door' status. Barn raisings, hanging out at the farm, the perfect girlfriend. Her interests switched from art (end of season 3) to astronomy. When things didn't work with Clark (she decided that rather quickly), she ran away to Lex, dropping her college aspirations. In season 7 we have her back at the farm, baking apple pies for a very passive Clark, telling him she doesn't want to be the one holding him back but doing nothing to change that. He says that that is what he has exactly what he wants, an idyllic life with her at the farm and ignores his destiny. But life is never that easy and the relationship almost sinks at the first mishap. For me, it was very Stepford wives, but without the robots: perfect wife, perfect household, but unrealistic, too good to be true.<O:p</O:p
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On the other hand, Lois bursts in with an application for the Daily Planet, tells him that he's wasting his youth in that farm and that is time to do something about his future. She's constantly presenting him with new challenges, she teases him and enjoys provoking him because, basically, she giving him the kick on the butt that he needs to move on. With her impulse, he’s starting to act like a man.

In post crisis comics, the premise is very similar. Lana is his past, the girl next door that will happily spend the rest of her life in Smallville baking pies for Clark Kent, the super powered farmboy. But he grows up, he understands he has a much bigger role in life and becomes the journalist (not mild mannered, according to this mythology) and the superhero. He falls for a determined, independent woman (Lois) and she for this strong, pro active man. They complement and drive each other. Their love had persisted for 70 years and (please correct me if I’m wrong) became only married couple in comic books. So, I guess, there must be something good about the annoying, headstrong <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/ /><st1:City w:st=<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = " /><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Lois Lane</st1:address></st1:Street> if she secured the love of the world’s greatest hero for so long.<O:p</O:p

Clana4Life
10-18-2008, 12:07 PM
Wow, these were all such great posts. I wish I could multi-quote everyone and respond to what you said, but it would be too long. But I think everyone brought a lot of insight to this discussion.

Sometimes the writers back themselves into a corner, I think.

a. Lana did the same thing for Clark that Lois did for Oliver. Clark knows this, which I think would make him NOT pursue a relationship with Lois. It doesn't really make sense, unless he plans to lie to Lois about his Superman identity. If he does that, then he learned nothing from his relationship with Lana and the character has regressed. I think the writers should never have included that bit about Lois saying she had a hero-complex.
b. And you're right, Clark is still in love with Lana. I think part of him always will be, so that really does have to be resolved before he can start another relationship, but would he even start another relationship? I don't think he so - not for a long time. Clana had their problems but at the end of Season 7 they were on the up side. They had faced a heck of a lot and the relationship was still in tact. If they had broken up, it would have been Clark breaking up with Lana because of the danger he puts her in, sort of like he's done before, or Clark would have pretty much never used his powers again and lived life as a human, but Lana wasn't keen on that. They might have come to a crossroads b/c of that. Clark's being with anyone or being friends with anyone puts their lives in danger. True Lois gets herself into serious situations but not the sort of Brainiac/Doomsday/Crazy Boy-Who-Wanted-to-throw-Lana-off-of-the-top-of-a-building sort of way. Would Clark want Lois to be put in this type of danger, too? I can't see Clark saying, "Well, I love Lois and she gets herself into serious danger anyway, so why not be with her?" This would only compound the danger that she faces. I think Clark would be overprotective. Hmm...again, seems like the writers have backed themselves into a corner.
c.) I can only see Clois working if Lois takes back what she said - changes her mind and decides to be with a hero. That's only one half. Clark will have to decide that he will allow himself to be in a relationship with someone despite the danger that it poses to them. I can't see Clark doing that. He will have to have a dual identity before Clois will ever start and he will have to be honest with Lois about it from the very start. SV will never show this and they don't even have enough eps to go into all of this. Clois should just remain friends unless Superman can be shown on this series, otherwise it does not work. And I think Clark will not pursue this or ever put her into this situation until he came come up with a second identity. The dawning of that idea should not come into play for a very long time, otherwise what's to stop Clark from telling Lana about this dual identity idea and still pursuing a relationship with her? So AmazingP I don't know that TPTB can resolve all of this.

amazingP
10-18-2008, 12:15 PM
This is true - Lois is a dangerous person - but honestly she would be dead if Clark hadn't saved her multiple times already. She might pretend to be confident and smart about things but isn't she just as much a damsel in distress as Lana was?

To that end I see Lois holding Clark back from doing greater things because he has to be following her around to babysit.
Lois might be putting herself in dangerous situations already - but they already take up 90% of Clark's time WITHOUT Lex/Brainiac/others chasing her down to get to him.

As for the trust issue with Clark having taught Lana not to trust him...She found out why he didn't tell her so that issue was resolved. If Clark had been cheating on her, or something like that, than Lana would have a reason not to trust him - but she found out the truth which resolved any distrust.
Last season when Clark told Lana "I taught you not to trust me" - I'm pretty sure she responded correctly when she said "don't blame yourself for my bad choices so you don't taint the image you have of me (or something like that). Which shows that she realizes the mistakes were her's - not a result of Clark teaching her not to trust him.

(Again, episode 100 and the brainiac coma show why Lana couldn't know his secret...and why Lois can't know either...which will create the same distrust aforementioned...which makes things no different than they were with Lana)

When Smallville tries to answer these questions they have got to hold water. Otherwise they are simply changing everything they were just so the story lines up with the real Superman. These issues are central to the Smallville definition of a hero.

----- Added 5 Minutes later -----

...and I agree Clana4Life (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/member.php?u=35282)...maybe they can't resolve these issues

Smallville619
10-18-2008, 12:37 PM
to Bizzarolover please just don't mention Joe Quesada and Spider-man or i'll wretch!!!!!

Timester
10-18-2008, 12:39 PM
a. Lana did the same thing for Clark that Lois did for Oliver. Clark knows this, which I think would make him NOT pursue a relationship with Lois. It doesn't really make sense, unless he plans to lie to Lois about his Superman identity. If he does that, then he learned nothing from his relationship with Lana and the character has regressed. I think the writers should never have included that bit about Lois saying she had a hero-complex.

Ollie left Lois, not the opposite.

WickedJenn
10-18-2008, 12:44 PM
From what I recall, in "Siren", Ollie was wanting to try again but it was Lois who said no.

Oliver: "I'm asking you, please give us another chance. I can make this work."
Lois: "I can't... You know me and my big mouth, I could never keep a secret... "

Iluvgreen
10-18-2008, 12:56 PM
It wont be diferent. I think that he wont chase her. he will love her, but he wont tell her becuase he knows what will happen. He knows what happened to lana and he wont want it to happen to her.

I am sure that they will find a way to fugure it out, cuz Lois also broke up with Oliver for kind of the same reason. kind of the same. so they will find a way to make it make sence.

Mr.Magic
10-18-2008, 12:58 PM
From what I recall, in "Siren", Ollie was wanting to try again but it was Lois who said no.

Ollie didn't want to try, he wanted to hook up whenever he is back in town.

meteor
10-18-2008, 12:59 PM
the thread question reminds of that early Red K episode where that sorta skanky chick comes to town, i think her name was Jesse, and Clark blows Lana off for her. Lex asks Clark "what about Lana" and Clark says "she's old news":lol:..i always found that scene hilarious.

Clark obviously still loves Lana, which is why he won't be "chasing" Lois i don't think until there's some Lana resolution or movement towards that in a later episode. it's like anything else. when you break up with your first love it hurts badly, but then as a flame begins to kindle with someone else a gradual transition occurs.

Liquid-Prince
10-18-2008, 01:00 PM
It's not really the same because the thing that made them broke up was that Lana had changed as a character. She was darker and needy at the same time and they just weren't meshing like they used too. If it was Clark and Lana from season 3 then they totally would be married now...

Anyways Lois is different because she is also needy but she is more pure and her need comes from being hurt and wanting a stable thing in her life. Lana and Clark are always going to have feelings for each other but their relationship will regress back down to friendship and not being a couple. Slowly Clark will eventually fall for Lois.

individuall
10-18-2008, 01:08 PM
This is true - Lois is a dangerous person - but honestly she would be dead if Clark hadn't saved her multiple times already. She might pretend to be confident and smart about things but isn't she just as much a damsel in distress as Lana was?

To that end I see Lois holding Clark back from doing greater things because he has to be following her around to babysit.
Lois might be putting herself in dangerous situations already - but they already take up 90% of Clark's time WITHOUT Lex/Brainiac/others chasing her down to get to him.

I agree. I think saying Lana needs saving too much is a horrible argument. Everyone on SV needs saved...Even Clark! LOL

But Lois has saved herself multiple times on the show... .Examples "Tomb" (idiot was dumb enough to give Lois a knife), "Exposed" (yes Clark grabbed the helicopter, but that's it and she thanked him for it), And also the episode where the crazy Lex cult girl tries to get Lois to kill JK. ('better Late than never Smallville'). And I'm guessing (though I can't remember any specific examples at the moment) that Lana has shown to be somewhat capable of getting herself out of tight spots sometimes too :)


As for the trust issue with Clark having taught Lana not to trust him...She found out why he didn't tell her so that issue was resolved. If Clark had been cheating on her, or something like that, than Lana would have a reason not to trust him - but she found out the truth which resolved any distrust.
Last season when Clark told Lana "I taught you not to trust me" - I'm pretty sure she responded correctly when she said "don't blame yourself for my bad choices so you don't taint the image you have of me (or something like that). Which shows that she realizes the mistakes were her's - not a result of Clark teaching her not to trust him.

I'm glad this was addressed. They really did have a lot of trust issues even after Lana found out Clark's secret...'Wrath' the whole Bizanna fiasco and what not...But, still there was a lot of tension at that farmhouse last season and not the good kind...


Again, episode 100 and the brainiac coma show why Lana couldn't know his secret...and why Lois can't know either...which will create the same distrust aforementioned...which makes things no different than they were with Lana)

Quick question how did eppy 100 show that Lois couldn't learn Clark's secret exactly. I don't know where you're getting this...In both realities Lois was saved and she didn't come Close to learning about Clark..so I'm :confused:


When Smallville tries to answer these questions they have got to hold water. Otherwise they are simply changing everything they were just so the story lines up with the real Superman. These issues are central to the Smallville definition of a hero.

----- Added 5 Minutes later -----

...and I agree Clana4Life (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/member.php?u=35282)...maybe they can't resolve these issues

I can't see what Clana4Life wrote for some reason:(
Anyway, I to hope that some of these questions are answered more thoroughly. :)

This next part isn't directed at you amazingP but to everyone in general :)

OK.Now I know this is going to sound like a cop out and I am totally prepared to get my head chopped off for this...But I think Clana might be one of those relationships that just doesn't work out. They just aren't meant to be and no matte how many times they try, for one reason or another it just doesn't happen. I think in a lot of ways Clark never really saw the REAL Lana. I mean I know she's said something about that over the years too him, as well. I don't doubt he cared for her, but I worry that he saw her more of a symbol of normalcy and put her up on a pedestal instead of trying to really get to know her. Like he was afraid of what he might find out...And I think in season 7 he got a glimpse of it and he was right. He didn't like what he found out. But he still cared for her...Also, I think that's one of the reasons Clois will work so well. Clark has never put Lois on a pedestal and she's never let him. She's always been a 'what you see is what you get, deal with it' kind of girl. she doesn't have secrets, she's a straight shooter. He's always known the real Lois...I'm not so sure about Lana...Does that make any sense to anyone?...Anyway, that's just my take..I know some will disagree..

Billy Jor-El
10-18-2008, 01:08 PM
Actually Clark will have a lot more to worry about with Lois, based on many stories from the past. She's the reporter who always seems to get herself in trouble...and Superman comes to save her. Anyway, yeah, a much stronger willed person than Lana (although Lana with powers and dressed as Joan Jett was pretty damed hot :D).

My issue also surrounds Clark's undying love for Lana, to only lose her (again), find out Chloe has worshipped him since high school, and then he's Superhorndog to fly (OK, he refuses to fly) into a relationship with Lois? Slow down, speedboy! Well, opposites attract, so it's said, and we were originally presented Lois as quite opposite to Clark's personality in many respects.

BTW...I glanced at a comment about Lana possibly returning in a given ep....OK, I'm extremely anal, I don't want to know ANYTHING about upcoming eps, no spoilers of any kind. Is it possible to mask the comments so that only those who want to know what's coming can read it? I won't even read interviews with AM if she tells anything about how Chloe will progress this season. I love surprises :)

WickedJenn
10-18-2008, 01:09 PM
Ollie didn't want to try, he wanted to hook up whenever he is back in town.

I'm not saying he didn't want to do that, I can only speculate. But I just posted his quote, "I want to give us a chance", I'd assume the "us" would mean a relationship.

Mr.Magic
10-18-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm not saying he didn't want to do that, I can only speculate. But I just posted his quote, "I want to give us a chance", I'd assume the "us" would mean a relationship.

He's Oliver Queen, reknown man-slut. I'd take anything he says regarding relationships with a sack of salt.

Cage
10-18-2008, 01:11 PM
The love affair is 70 years young - Lois is Passion and Lana is sugar - depends what one is comfortable with.

We should remember that Lana Lang was just written in to paralell Clark's boyhood time to Clark's adult time - she was an after thought.

How they will make the transition in Smallville is anyone's guess - it has come upon us rather fast

Peace

WickedJenn
10-18-2008, 01:12 PM
He's Oliver Queen, reknown man-slut. I'd take anything he says regarding relationships with a sack of salt.

Well, whatever his intentions, that's what he said, and Lois responded by saying no.

MetroGirl06
10-18-2008, 02:26 PM
OK.Now I know this is going to sound like a cop out and I am totally prepared to get my head chopped off for this...But I think Clana might be one of those relationships that just doesn't work out. They just aren't meant to be and no matte how many times they try, for one reason or another it just doesn't happen. I think in a lot of ways Clark never really saw the REAL Lana. I mean I know she's said something about that over the years too him, as well. I don't doubt he cared for her, but I worry that he saw her more of a symbol of normalcy and put her up on a pedestal instead of trying to really get to know her. Like he was afraid of what he might find out...And I think in season 7 he got a glimpse of it and he was right. He didn't like what he found out. But he still cared for her...Also, I think that's one of the reasons Clois will work so well. Clark has never put Lois on a pedestal and she's never let him. She's always been a 'what you see is what you get, deal with it' kind of girl. she doesn't have secrets, she's a straight shooter. He's always known the real Lois...I'm not so sure about Lana...Does that make any sense to anyone?...Anyway, that's just my take..I know some will disagree..[/QUOTE]

I think you hit the nail on the head :)

morrigan01
10-18-2008, 03:38 PM
a) why would Clark start chasing Lois when he continues to love Lana (even though they can't be together)

First off, to anyone doubting Clark is going to chase Lois - he will. And he'll start chasing her the moment he realizes that he wants to be with her, and has fully moved on from Lana.

Now, why couldn't he and Lana be together? Because, fundamentally, Lana wanted a different life with Clark than Lois will want (and have) with Clark. Lana only wanted to have a nice, quiet, stable life with the man she loved. That family life that got taken away from her during the meteor shower. That was seen especially in Persona last season, when Lana was all excited of moving away with Clark (who was really Bizarro) to Minnesota or whatever.

However, the life Clark is destined to lead is never going to be quiet or stable. Not only is he going to have villains constantly coming after him, but he's going to have to up and leave at any moments notice to protect/save the world.

The person Clark ends up with is going to have to understand that he can't be there at 5:30 for dinner every night. Lois, however, dose not have that sort of expectation of a "picture perfect" family life waiting for her. Her only great fear is being left behind by the person she loves.

And that is the reason why Clark is going to have to chase her - to show that she isn't going to have to fear that with him. (And I mean chase her as Clark, not Superman. Because honestly, there is no way she's not going to know Clark is Superman the minute Superman goes public).

b) how would Clark think anything is going to be different between Clark and Lois and between Clark and Lana?

First, as someone else said, it will be different with Lois because foremost, Lois and Lana are not the same people. (Clark even says this to Oliver when he tells Ollie he shouldn't keep his secret about being Green Arrow from Lois - that Lois isn't Lana).

For starters, the two girls have totally different outlooks on Clark's secret. Lana was always sad and berating Clark for keeping his secret and not opening up to her. Lois, OTOH, doesn't bother Clark about it at all, even though she suspects he has a secret. She even told Chloe (after Chloe found out from Alicia) that if the person wants to share, they'll share when they're ready.

Next, Clark knows that Lois can, most of the time, take care of herself. That was one of the first things he found out about her in Gone, when he rushed to save her from the military guys in the blackhawks, and she had totally taken them out by herself.

When Lois is in trouble and can't get out of it, then Clark knows she's really in trouble. It's why he freaked out in Recruit when she went missing, and again - to another extent - here.

And finally, one of the main reasons it will be different is that Lois Lane does not put Clark on a pedestal. Or, for that matter, herself. She's very "take me as I am" when it comes to being in a relationship with someone. And the kicker is - she views the person she loves in that same way. She takes them as they are, faults and all. She said it in regards to Oliver when she realized she was falling in love with him: "The guy could tell me her was from Mars right now, and I'd find a way to dismiss it as an endearing quirk."

And, really, that's all Clark has every wanted - to be accepted, and afraid he wouldn't be because he was an alien.

If he screws up, Lois will not defer to him and wont be afraid to call him on it. But she'll still accept and love him, screw-ups and all. She'll allow him to be happy, pissy, selfish, the whole host of emotions too. And more to the point - Clark will do the same for her.

So, these are just some of the fundamentals, IMO, why it will be different (and work) with Lois the way it didn't with Lana.

oqllcksmallville
10-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Anyone can agree when i say this ,
as Lois said in Crimson ;
Lana is your past , i'm your future . = )
and even though clark responded with ; This is the present . ; )
.. it's pretty safe to say ,
that the present is ;
currently bulding up the chemistry and romance ;
for a full fledged ,
CLOIS . = ) <3

umm
10-18-2008, 03:52 PM
Ok so I know most people probably don't want to hear about Lana anymore...but hear me out.
When Lana broke it off with Clark they both loved each other still. The reason they had to break it off was because:
a) Lana was holding Clark back from doing greater things - and she loved him enough to let him go
b) Clark knows (based on episode 100, the brainiac coma...etc) that being with Lana is only going to cause her pain. If the pain doesn't come from the lies about his secret (which is a large part of the story of Smallville) then it comes from people trying to hurt Lana to get to Clark. So Clark also knows that, even though it hurts and he still loves her, it causes less pain to Lana to not be with her.
How can you explain that being with Lois is going to be any different? I suppose this is something wrong with the superman story in general...
So I have 2 questions:
a) why would Clark start chasing Lois when he continues to love Lana (even though they can't be together)
b) how would Clark think anything is going to be different between Clark and Lois and between Clark and Lana?
If Smallville doesn't answer these questions than they are betraying all the stories they have created up until this point...and maybe it is time to end it before they destroy it


You keep forgetting one small thing, Lois isn't Lana! And while Lois still isn't done baking and turning into the mature and supporting Lois we all know she will become, she is still a more mature person than Lana ever was or will ne!
And yes one can argue, that sence Lois couldn't handle Olivers double identity that she just the same wouldn't be able to handle Clarks, which proved to be the truth in the future, but she did come around and excepted that she will never be the first priority on Clark's daily list of chores! As much as she tried, Lana never could accept that fact, she was to selfish in the end, and did Clark and herself a huge favour by braking it off with him via 'Dear John' video!

supes0
10-18-2008, 04:01 PM
So, these are just some of the fundamentals, IMO, why it will be different (and work) with Lois the way it didn't with Lana.

Great post!!!!! ITA.

Just to highlight some of your fab insights


Now, why couldn't he and Lana be together? Because, fundamentally, Lana wanted a different life with Clark than Lois will want (and have) with Clark. Lana only wanted to have a nice, quiet, stable life with the man she loved. That family life that got taken away from her during the meteor shower. That was seen especially in Persona last season, when Lana was all excited of moving away with Clark (who was really Bizarro) to Minnesota or whatever.

ITA! Lana wants a quiet life. The domestic scenes in Persona showed how much she enjoyed that part of their relationship. I think they were going to Paris?

Lois on the other hand craves chaos. She was born in to a nomad's life (army brat), she lived a life of action with her military training. She would suffocate in a traditional relationship, dinner at 5:30 and all...


When Lois is in trouble and can't get out of it, then Clark knows she's really in trouble. It's why he freaked out in Recruit when she went missing, and again - to another extent - here.

Spot on.


If he screws up, Lois will not defer to him and wont be afraid to call him on it. But she'll still accept and love him, screw-ups and all. She'll allow him to be happy, pissy, selfish, the whole host of emotions too. And more to the point - Clark will do the same for her.

Again, ITA. They accept each other, flaws and all.

oqllcksmallville
10-18-2008, 04:05 PM
You keep forgetting one small thing, Lois isn't Lana!

thank you so much , umm :D
- took the words , right out of my mouth !
.. there's a reason nothing that worked or didn't work for Clana ;
will / might / could ; work for Clois .
LOIS is NOT and will NEVER be Lana . = )

pizzahead2490
10-18-2008, 04:11 PM
all fantasic posts and i agree with the central idea in the majority of the posts
LOIS IS NOT LANA.

ginnyfan
10-18-2008, 04:21 PM
About Lois' statement that she doesn't want to share her life partner with the world:

Her statement was primarily motivated by fear of being left behind (as Morrigan said). She compares Oliver's behavior to the way the General treated her as a little girl. She feels that the importance of their jobs justifies the fact that she was not very high on the priority list but it hurts.

Well, Lois will never be an afterthought for Clark. Clark will do a better job of valuing Lois in the future than the other heroes in her life. Clark won't treat her like luggage (the General) or like an afterthought/pass time (Oliver). Clark will make sure (well unless you count Superman Returns) that there is no doubt in Lois' mind of her value to him. She won't worry that he will abandon her.

Even if Clark becomes Superman and we have a triangle of three for a while, by the time Lois learns about Clark and Superman she will have seen him balance having a relationship with her WHILE being a hero. Yes he disappears sometimes and makes silly excuses but he is there to support and love her as a friend and later boyfriend WHILE being Superman. So he will already have shown that he can balance the two better than Oliver or the General.

Clark's relationship with Lana shows just how important his personal relationships are. He put heroism on the back burner in Season 7 in favor of a happy home life. With Lois he will balance the hero with the home better. He won't to choose one over the other.

oqllcksmallville
10-18-2008, 04:27 PM
all fantasic posts and i agree with the central idea in the majority of the posts
LOIS IS NOT LANA.
LOL , right on . = )

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 05:04 PM
*runs in to thread*

Who the hell cares about Lana?

*runs out of thread*

Dor el
10-18-2008, 05:49 PM
A most interesting thread. Lois is an "eat dirt and die" kind of girl. She is very strong, self assured, and accepting of herself. Lana never accepted herself. She always measured her value by the opinions of others, the current man in her life, and in large part on the "left behind" attitude. That made her see herself as a victim. Lois is NOT a victim. But rather, Lois is Lois is Lois. Like her or not. The choice is yours. She doesn't put limits on Clark and will accept no limits from him. She is complete with or without him, but eventually learns to relate to him in a very loving way. They become the couple of destiny. Lana was neither complete nor accepting of Clark. Lana wanted Clark, but only on her terms. Lois falls in love with Clark: hero, warts and all. And Clark accepts Lois warts and all. In fact, it is those very warts that cement the relationship.

DestinyAw8s
10-18-2008, 07:31 PM
There is only one woman with the strength of will to be both lover and wife to Superman. That is Lois Lane. ITA Lois is not Lana.

RedKRules
10-18-2008, 07:46 PM
I really want Lana to come back and show she is over Clark .... and that she matured and is living a happy life wherever she was living by now with someone who truly appreciate her without the whole secrets, lies, drama, agnst crap that only helped to destroy her character! Like everyonelse on this show, Lana deserves a fair decent close up for her character .... after she plays a big role on Supermanīs life as well .... !

SVsleuth
10-18-2008, 07:54 PM
Great answers! Keep them coming! It's really interesting to see the views of various people on this topic.

RedKRules
10-18-2008, 08:04 PM
LOIS IS NOT LANA.

Of course not ...... I mean I donīt think that Lana is better than Lois or otherwise, both plays their part on Clarkīs life .... so comparing them is like saying that apple is orange ..... they are totally different ... have qualities and flaws!

myankskent
10-18-2008, 08:08 PM
If TPTB were going to leave Clana in a spot where their relationship didn't work because Lana had to let Clark go so he can accept his destiny, then I don't think that they would be bothered with bringing Lana back in season 8. Something tells me that their relationship will end much differently this season, which might answer some of the questions why Clark won't have the same problems with Lois in the future.

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 08:12 PM
When the creator of Superman was creating his vision of Clark Kent/Superman, he created Lois Lane right along with him. That is why she is so perfect for him. She was written at the same time as he was. She is his counterpart, romance aside.

Many people cannot stand or handle Lois because she is not the type of woman that fits with just anyone, Clark Kent/Superman is one of the few who can handle and appreciate the whirlwind that is Lois Lane.

Lois Lane is a beautifully flawed character, one who Superman can completely appreciate in a way that most people cannot. To Superman, she is the epitome of what it is to be human. She makes mistakes, she has many horrible qualities (stubborn, rude, headstrong, annoying), and yet, she has these amazing qualities that you cannot ignore and that COMPLIMENT Clark Kent/Superman so perfectly. She is passionate, humane, and seeks out the truth (danger be damned).

Lois and Clark are soulmates who were quite literally, written for one another.

And the difference between Lois Lane's relationship with Clark Kent and Lana Lang's relationship to Clark Kent is that Lois and Clark are connected by MORE than love. They are connected by the SAME destiny. They were both meant to save the world.

Both are heroes. One represents fiction, the other reality.

Clark Kent/Superman is a hero, but that exists only in fiction.

Lois Lane is a hero that can exist and does exist in our world.

That is another way that they compliment each other, fiction/reality combined.


Lana Lang, although a woman who has shown strength and independence, was NOT written as a hero. She was not written to have a destiny of saving the world. Thus, her life does not coincide with Clark's.

True soulmates do not just have the bond of love, they have the bond of destiny, and that is why Lois and Clark Kent will always work, and Clark and Lana will not.

scifigirl
10-18-2008, 08:18 PM
I really want Lana to come back and show she is over Clark .... and that she matured and is living a happy life wherever she was living by now with someone who truly appreciate her without the whole secrets, lies, drama, agnst crap that only helped to destroy her character! Like everyonelse on this show, Lana deserves a fair decent close up for her character .... after she plays a big role on Supermanīs life as well .... !

ITA with your post. I hope that she has come back for closure and not to give the relationship another try and I really hope the writers don't make her into a stalker ex girlfriend. I want to see the more grown up Clark we have seen interact with a more grown up Lana and have them both acknowledge that while they love each other, the relationship was not meant to be.

smallvillerocks45
10-18-2008, 08:30 PM
I think the context of each relationship Clana versus Clois is what determines their success or lack thereof. It was Lana who said that she was holding Clark back, and in a sense that was true. In the episode "Action," Lana brought up the point of Clark being able to save the world, and he told her that he had everything he wanted with her on the Kent farm. She realized then, and after having a lot of time to think whilst under Brainiac's imprisonment, the undeniable truth: Clark will not move on if she stays.

Once Lana left, however, Clark stationed himself primarily in Metropolis so that he could monitor the crimes that are happening in the surrounding area and around the world. Lois happens to already be there. Thus, when their relationship forms, it isn't perfect, but Clark's priorities have already been shaped.

Thus Clois works because each knows what they're getting into. I will note, however that this is only a semi-truth. I mean, if one were to cite Superman II, for instance, Clark makes Lois forget about his powers because she finds the secret difficult to handle. Yet, in some comic book versions, which admittedly I am not well versed in, their romantic relationship is able to progress.

I am definitely curious to see how Smallville handles this relationship. There is a lot of room to be creative, and yet there may also be a chance where a relationship never happens. After all, it isn't Clark Kent that Lois loves, it is Superman... Kal-El, the real person underneath the disguise, and since Smallville will never show Superman, they may never actually get together. Instead, they may just love each other - secretly - from afar.

Alicia Chipy
10-18-2008, 08:32 PM
Although the phrase Lois isn't Lana sums it all,it is very possible to fall in and out of love with people who are diametrical opposites.
In my own life,I married my HS sweetie who was my polar opposite.Fifteen years and two kids later we were stiffling each other and wondering what drew us together in the first place.
Later I married someone who was my soulmate and grew to love even more than the first.
So it is possible to truly fall in love again,and to someone with a completely different personality.

DestinyAw8s
10-18-2008, 08:53 PM
Although the phrase Lois isn't Lana sums it all,it is very possible to fall in and out of love with people who are diametrical opposites.
In my own life,I married my HS sweetie who was my polar opposite.Fifteen years and two kids later we were stiffling each other and wondering what drew us together in the first place.
Later I married someone who was my soulmate and grew to love even more than the first.
So it is possible to truly fall in love again,and to someone with a completely different personality.
I can definitely relate, Alicia Chipy. I didn't marry my first love or my second love. But the third time was charm for me. Twenty-three years and two daughters later, I'm even more in love with my man. I guess Martha was right in my case. "Sometimes, you have to get through the wrong ones to find the right one." God bless her.

Alicia Chipy
10-18-2008, 10:05 PM
I can definitely relate, Alicia Chipy. I didn't marry my first love or my second love. But the third time was charm for me. Twenty-three years and two daughters later, I'm even more in love with my man. I guess Martha was right in my case. "Sometimes, you have to get through the wrong ones to find the right one." God bless her.

AMEN to that!;)

Clana4Life
10-18-2008, 10:07 PM
Honestly, Clana could and would work if the writers wanted it to. Again their hands are tied by mythos, cannon, comics. There is this big misconception that Clark & Lana broke up b/c she got "darker". They broke up because she decided to break up with him so that he could save the world. Clark was at her beside everyday for the majority of the day when she was in her coma. I don't know that they would have broken up if Lana had not initiated it. The only reason Clois works is because the writers write it that way (or will write it that way). Most likely either one of these relationships could work. If Clark were to talk with Lana about having a dual identity, she'd probably would be fine with that - this way they could be together and he could still save the world like she wanted. Lois would be fine with this, too. Yeah, Lana got darker for a time, but she got over that and if they could get over all of that drama, it really proves how strong the relationship was. If anyone brought out the worst in them - it was Lex. But anyway, I don't see that Clois will work better than Clana. They are both different women and both could and would work -- just in different ways. I do think that if Lana had not taken herself out of the picture, there would be no Clois. With Lana in the picture Clark seemed destined to never get over her. It actually took her leaving for him to even try to get over her. That's very telling.

smallvillefreak24
10-18-2008, 10:09 PM
I thought that too I guess the only answer is that lois can take care of herself ~

SnowBird
10-18-2008, 10:17 PM
I read all the posts and want to thank you for some insight into the lives of Lana, Lois and Clark. I felt bad for Clark that Lana was out of reach for him the first two seasons until the end of S2 and then he pushed Lana away. S3 sees them both apart and Lana goes to Paris to get away from Clark. S4 sees Lana with the asst. coach. S5, Clark and Lana are together but Clark's secret gets in the way of them being close. S6, Lana and Lex gets together. S7 Lana knows Clark's secret but Lana's vengence towards Lex gets in the way. Also Bizarro makes things complicated as Lana doesn't know the difference between him and Clark. Lana thinks she is holding Clark back from his destiny and exits. There were such few times in 7 years that they were really happy and it is very sad...Lana and Lois are very different. I see Lana as being reserved and I can't remember if she ever had a full laugh. If she did, they were few and far between. She seems to be dependent on men to make her happy...Lois is just the opposite and is full of expression to the point her mouth gets her in trouble. She can make Clark laugh and have every kind of emotion. Lois is outgoing and exciting to watch and be around. One way to explain it is that Lana is the downer and Lois is the upper. I see Clark as being too much like Lana. He can be moody, quiet, reserved, like the world is on his shoulders. In my experience it is better if a couple are opposites. This is why Lois and Clark work. Lois is going to keep Clark from dwelling on things he has no control over. She is going to make him laugh and not take himself too serious. She is going to keep Clark guessing and make his life worth living because he has long lasting love to keep him going...I wish Lana and Clark could have made it because she was Clark's first love but too many things just kept getting in the way of their happiness and at some point they have to say it wasn't meant to be and go on and find love and happiness with others. For Clark it is Lois, and I'm looking forward to their journey in SV. I hope by the end we will see them declaring their love for each other...I'm not sure there is a right or wrong but this is the way I see it. Thanks for your time:)

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 10:19 PM
Honestly, Clana could and would work if the writers wanted it to. Again their hands are tied by mythos, cannon, comics.
Even though Clana does exist in the mythos, it has never been Clark's destiny to end up with her.

NEVER.

And it never will.

Just because there is love, doesn't mean there is a destiny there.

That's the real difference between Lois and Lana. Lois's destiny is to be with Clark. Lana's is not.

borednow
10-18-2008, 10:24 PM
What about everything?
What about airplanes?
And what about ships that drank the sea?
What about the moon and stars?
What about soldier battle scars
And all the anger that they eat?

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 10:27 PM
What about everything?
What about airplanes?
And what about ships that drank the sea?
What about the moon and stars?
What about soldier battle scars
And all the anger that they eat?
:rotfl:

I saw your James Marsters icon, read your name "Bored Now," deduced that you were a BTVS fan and immediately knew you were a cool member. Lol, and now with your poster, you have proven it. Hilarious.

I think from now on I will just ignore these posts and hope that they get quickly buried in the previous page. :lol:

supes0
10-18-2008, 10:30 PM
I really want Lana to come back and show she is over Clark .... and that she matured and is living a happy life wherever she was living by now with someone who truly appreciate her without the whole secrets, lies, drama, agnst crap that only helped to destroy her character! Like everyonelse on this show, Lana deserves a fair decent close up for her character .... after she plays a big role on Supermanīs life as well .... !


She does play a role in his life , but in the mythos she is not over Clark. Even though she marries Pete, she names their son Clark. She turned to Pete after Clark tells her he's in love with Lois.

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Poor Pete knew this but loved Lana and hoped she would some day feel the same way. She never really did.

I don't know how they'll handle this in SV, but if they follow her character's path in the source material, she'll have to accept Clark has moved on, even though she hasn't.

I guess we'll see!

chica02
10-18-2008, 10:31 PM
There are some great posts here, especially by ginnyfan and morrigan01. I was almost cheering aloud as I was reading them!

What I really need to see now is that Clark is getting over Lana by choice, not just because she's gone. After everything she's put him through, he has always had those Lana blinders on and keeps forgiving her and letting things slide. (And yes, I realize that he lied to her for years and years about his secret, but good god, can you blame him?) And then SHE'S the one to break it off. I hope when she returns later this season, Clark closes that proverbial door himself and no one has to shove him out and lock it again.

RedKRules
10-19-2008, 07:48 AM
ITA with your post. I hope that she has come back for closure and not to give the relationship another try and I really hope the writers don't make her into a stalker ex girlfriend. I want to see the more grown up Clark we have seen interact with a more grown up Lana and have them both acknowledge that while they love each other, the relationship was not meant to be.

ITA!! :cool:

Clana4Life
10-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Even though Clana does exist in the mythos, it has never been Clark's destiny to end up with her.

NEVER.

And it never will.

Just because there is love, doesn't mean there is a destiny there.

That's the real difference between Lois and Lana. Lois's destiny is to be with Clark. Lana's is not.

Are you saying it's destiny because of the comics? I wonder if Clark knowing this would reject Lois liked he formerly rejected his "destiny" of being a leader and saving the world. It really takes the fun out of something when you are told "this is your destiny no matter what" as if you have no choice in the matter - no free will. "You will be with Lois, it is your destiny - period." I hope Season 8 does not go like that. I'm a big movie Clois fan and I wouldn't be supportive of a Season 8 that pretty much tells me this is what "has" to happen without showing the natural progression of it. At the moment, it seems like the biggest difference between Lana and Lois is that Clark chose Lana. No destiny forced upon him. He chose her. With Lois at the moment, we are getting a lot of "destiny" and very little "free will'.

smallvillerocks45
10-19-2008, 08:52 PM
I think there is definitely some free will involved with Clois. I mean, the fact is, Clark doesn't love Lois yet. He cares about her, he doesn't want her to get hurt or killed, but he isn't daydreaming about her and I think there is still a lot of time left to indicate why exactly it is that Clark chooses her over Lana.

Don't get me wrong, I was always a Clana supporter. I would have loved it if in some way they could have ended up together, but I just don't see it happening anymore, and after their lackluster romance last season, I accept it.

oqllcksmallville
10-19-2008, 08:56 PM
- I honestly believe Clana was just a trainwreck ;
waiting to happen .
.. Lois is the person to clean all that up in his heart ,
she's the harley ,
Clarkie has been saving up for . = D

Serynarpc
10-19-2008, 11:12 PM
Lana is gone (for now, I realize she is slated for like five episodes. Four? Could we bargain down to three?) and so I rejoice. Whenever Lana hits the stage, the show becomes AllAboutLana!

A: Lana left Clark and asked him not to find her. Therefore, Clark has no reason to pursue Lana. He has been moping about her (as Lois mentioned). Its five episodes in, time to expect Clark to move on. Lois doesn't need to be saved as often. True, Clark does need to save her from sensible dangers, but not from Freak of the Week Stalkers.
I don't care about Lana's pain at all. I'm simply glad that the pain isn't inflicted on us.
Lana also likes to do the 'You're such a hypocrite for keeping secrets' when she never mentions blackmail, clones or the plethora of lies she's hidden behind. Lois seems direct and accepts responsibility for her actions, so the relationship would likely be more mature.

B: Lois isn't Lana. Also, Clark knows that Lois attempted to proect Ollie's secret from Chloe and him. While Lois wasn't ready for a secret ID then, for the right guy, she probably is. Years from now, of course.

DontCha
10-20-2008, 08:39 AM
she's coming back these questions will be answered and hopefully closed off once and for all..forever.

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


- I honestly believe Clana was just a trainwreck ;
waiting to happen .
.. Lois is the person to clean all that up in his heart ,
she's the harley ,
Clarkie has been saving up for . = D


yep a trainwreck, in Action...he's not souring with her in his arms, they're falling and then we hear "CRRRAAASSHHH"

symbolism at its finest.

cklookalike89
10-20-2008, 09:46 AM
I have always been a huge clana fan and probabally always will be but that ship has sailed. We all know that they didnt even work out last season when they were so madly in love. It just doesnt work between them even though they love eachother so much!

neo0721
10-20-2008, 04:52 PM
what people have to see is that lana choose to leave him he didn't say that he doesn't want her he was heart broken he wanted to be with lana and the first one that came to his rescue was lois and eventually when they do fall for each other lois is much stronger than lana is and instead of running away from the challange she is all up for it so i think that is the difference

Faerus
10-20-2008, 06:03 PM
I don't think that Clark and Lois are having something big in the series.... They might have some romantic scenes and blah blah....I think that Smallville is more about Clark and Lana romance.
I think that the series started with Lana and I rlly expect to see her in this Finale.

WickedJenn
10-20-2008, 06:06 PM
Lana won't be in the finale, Kristin Kreuk is purportedly only in episodes 10-14 per the spoilers. I have a huge feeling there will be Clana closure this season.

abbaspice1
10-20-2008, 06:10 PM
Lana? Lana?

That train has left the station...

That ship has sailed....

That bird has flown the coop.....

The sun has set, the day has now ended...

supes0
10-20-2008, 06:19 PM
Lana won't be in the finale, Kristin Kreuk is purportedly only in episodes 10-14 per the spoilers. I have a huge feeling there will be Clana closure this season.

Agreed re closure. But I wouldn't be surprised if KK was in the finale. Just not as romantic clana, which I'll bet ends in the clana arc. I don't know if they'll stay true to canon and have her leave still in love with Clark or not.

Faerus
10-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Yeah and I think evry1 should appear in this season finale: Martha,Lana,Justice League,Kara,Pete,Martian Manhunter,Lex and more characters we miss and they should be with Clark in those special momments...when Clarks needs them...

j-kent
10-21-2008, 01:03 AM
I suspect that no answer will satisfy, but I'll give it a shot.

Lois is a stronger woman, both physically and emotionally, than Lana. This seems to be true in any Superman story where both characters appear. Clark will simply be able to worry less about Lois, and she is better equipped temperamentally to deal with Clark. Lois can and will stand up and tell Clark what he needs to hear, and that's what will enable them to reach an understanding beyond clana.

The best answer for the thread starter! This is exactly it. Lois is simply a better match for the CK and the man of steel. The character of Lois has always been a strong woman and able keep CK on his toes.

Sunny8
12-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Lois is not just destiny for Clark. She is the person he eventually settles into a mature relationship with because he has grown up and out of Lana. Things like that happen all the time. If TPTB had not spent so much time on Lana and Clark's doomed relationship, and had let things progress naturally, SV would have had enough time to show how and why Clark and Lois eventually end up with one another before the series end.

As it is, Lana and Clark were never the ideal couple. I'd never want to be like them or have what they had. Their relationship was angsty and sad most of the time. There were so many problems in their relationship that I don't think it could have survived. They just do not mesh well and do not make each other happy as seen in season 7 when they finally had a chance to be together. They probably love one another but their relationship is doomed--and not just because Lana leaves to allow Clark to pursue his destiny (at least that is why she claims she left, but I don't believe her).

BTW, Lana wasn't the only one that kept Clark from his destiny. His parents also had a hand in doing that at one point. They did not want Clark to have contact with Jor-el because they wanted to keep him to themselves and wanted him to be a normal son to them. However, that just caused problems for everyone.

Cloisfan_90
08-29-2009, 09:28 PM
WHO CARES...???:rolleyes:

smallvillefreak24
08-29-2009, 10:31 PM
I don't really feel true closure

RaniaLovesClois
08-31-2009, 04:35 AM
Lana?? Who's Lana????

Clana Kent
08-31-2009, 05:23 AM
Why did this thread come up all of the sudden? :s

As for what smallvillefreak24 said, Season 8 didn't really bring closure to Clana.
The way that it ended in Requiem, they kept the door open for Lana to return at one point. Cause seriously, she needs to lose that suit.

And as for what Faerus said: Smallville has always been about Clark and Lana. Clark and his first true love.

Even Gough and Millar have said that they wanted the show to begin and end with Clana. I just hope that their wishes will somehow come true towards the end of the show. Although the future doesn't look brightly on that subject.

Charles
08-31-2009, 05:31 AM
I completely agree with you about the suit, Sven. I have no idea why the producers went that route. Maybe they thought it was ironic, maybe they thought it was the easiest way out, but it did a disservice to Lana Lang, IMO. Who granted is not among my favorite characters in the series, but still I think she deserved to leave Smallville without a suit infested with green kryptonite.


Even Gough and Millar have said that they wanted the show to begin and end with Clana. I just hope that their wishes will somehow come true towards the end of the show. Although the future doesn't look brightly on that subject.

Well that was because they wanted to end the show around season 5 so ending it with Lana and Clark would have made perfect sense. Now, I can't imagine this Smallville, which is already by the looks of the spoilers so different suddenly going back to "Clana" again for the series finale. It would be too regressive, IMO.

Clana Kent
08-31-2009, 05:55 AM
I completely agree with you about the suit, Sven. I have no idea why the producers went that route. Maybe they thought it was ironic, maybe they thought it was the easiest way out, but it did a disservice to Lana Lang, IMO. Who granted is not among my favorite characters in the series, but still I think she deserved to leave Smallville without a suit infested with green kryptonite.



Well that was because they wanted to end the show around season 5 so ending it with Lana and Clark would have made perfect sense. Now, I can't imagine this Smallville, which is already by the looks of the spoilers so different suddenly going back to "Clana" again for the series finale. It would be too regressive, IMO.
Oh thanks, I didn't know that they planned on ending it around S5 :o
It doesn't make sense that it would return to be Clana in the end, but what can I say; I'm a huge fan of the couple :\ And I simply cannot live with how they ended that relationship in Requiem.

I'm fully aware that the relationship has to end, but the way it ended doesn't feel right. It needs to be done properly somehow.

I'm also very unpleased that not a word has been spoken about her since she left again. She said she was going to save the world, just like Clark. Why can't we have a few news articles about that or something? Or a mention from Chloe that Lana called in to say she's having the time of her life or so? :(

Oh crap, I'm going way offtopic :p oh well, you get my point :p

rebecavaldez
08-31-2009, 05:58 AM
a) why would Clark start chasing Lois when he continues to love Lana (even though they can't be together)
b) how would Clark think anything is going to be different between Clark and Lois and between Clark and Lana?
a) He falls in love with Lois duh
b) There is a huge difference between Lana and Lois. Lana kept pushing to find out Clark's secret. Lois isn't doing that. Things will work out so much better.

Charles
08-31-2009, 06:09 AM
Oh thanks, I didn't know that they planned on ending it around S5 :o
It doesn't make sense that it would return to be Clana in the end, but what can I say; I'm a huge fan of the couple :\ And I simply cannot live with how they ended that relationship in Requiem. There were a few things I enjoyed about Requiem and the Lana arc, but overall, I felt very disatisfied so if you cannot live with how they ended based on a similar disatisfaction then I understand you completely and I do agree with you.


I'm fully aware that the relationship has to end, but the way it ended doesn't feel right. It needs to be done properly somehow.
IMO what the Clark and Lana relationship needed that it did not receive was closure.


I'm also very unpleased that not a word has been spoken about her since she left again. She said she was going to save the world, just like Clark. Why can't we have a few news articles about that or something? Or a mention from Chloe that Lana called in to say she's having the time of her life or so? :( If next season we are going to see flashebacks of Jimmy Olsen (or so it's speculated), then I don't think it would hurt to see something similar with Lana Lang. Or in the least as you mention some kind of reference. I guess you never know. If season nine is really about moving forward, the past will be undoubtedly reference in some way.



Oh crap, I'm going way offtopic :p oh well, you get my point :p

I get your point, and I actually agree with it! :)

biggumt
12-19-2010, 12:55 AM
for the people that said "well lois is stronger and is tougher" just stop it. no human is tough enough to face the threats that clark faces. and the reason why they made clana get through so many obstacles (outside threats such as braniac) was because she was not the one he ends up with. they completely abandoned the "people that are close to clark are in danger" crap they used to put on the show. they completely ignored all of that with clois and didn't address it.