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cptep46
10-16-2008, 08:04 PM
A Kryptonite watch?!?! Anyone else think that was poretty weak? :confused:

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 08:04 PM
It was just a bracelet. And it made sense since the guy worked in a jewelery shop.

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 08:05 PM
A Kryptonite watch?!?! Anyone else think that was poretty weak? :confused:

Yea...it kind of reminded me of tomb with the psycho guy putting bracelets on his girls. But I guess it sort of made sense...since he was a jewler. But still rather cheesy.

Routh
10-16-2008, 08:05 PM
It was just a bracelet. And it made sense since the guy worked in a jewelery shop.

That's my explanation, but it was pretty contrived. Oh well. I enjoyed the episode so much that it doesn't even bother me!

krpto
10-16-2008, 08:08 PM
I was just releaved that we didn't the kryptonite lie detector test that I was okay with the very lame krypto-watch.

dunkman
10-16-2008, 08:21 PM
He probably thinks he got a good deal on an emerald bracelet & it was really just kryptonite (like the "ruby" class rings at Smallville High). Chump!

dru-zod2501
10-16-2008, 09:11 PM
watch, bracelet, all that matters was it was a lame arbitrary plot device

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 09:20 PM
watch, bracelet, all that matters was it was a lame arbitrary plot device
:rolleyes:

pizzahead2490
10-16-2008, 09:26 PM
the worse part of that little part of jewlry was the style of it, i mean ewwwww.

jazzylg
10-16-2008, 09:57 PM
What was more lame was that Lois never questioned how clark got free, and pounched the bad guy!:eek:

RKryp
10-16-2008, 10:03 PM
I was just happy that, for once, even though they brought in Kryptonite, Clark managed to rescue himself instead of needing to be rescued.

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 10:05 PM
What was more lame was that Lois never questioned how clark got free, and pounched the bad guy!:eek:

She was groggy through out the whole scene from the tranq bullet.

rocana
10-16-2008, 10:19 PM
What got me is a tiny piece of kryptonite from across the room was still affecting him, when most other times it becomes ineffective if it's not right next to him. I guess it's too late to hope for them to be consistent on that.

j-kent
10-16-2008, 10:20 PM
What got me is a tiny piece of kryptonite from across the room was still affecting him, when most other times it becomes ineffective if it's not right next to him. I guess it's too late to hope for them to be consistent on that.

don't usually care...but that is tooo true

Karafan1
10-16-2008, 10:53 PM
Depending on how long he's had that watch, he should be a meteor freak by now..

B_M4N
10-16-2008, 11:21 PM
I was a little worried when I heard that kryptonite was going to be involved it sounded pretty weak, but in this case I think it was done pretty well especially since it showed Clark doesn't become completely worthless when it's around him.

superspider02
10-16-2008, 11:31 PM
Yea what was so wrong with the krypto braclet. We have seen kryptonite in many forms of jewlery in the show's history.

Kal-alien
10-17-2008, 09:03 AM
didn't really bother me any. We've seen much stupider things

Billy Jor-El
10-17-2008, 09:11 AM
Cheesy, but it beat having a Kryptonite decoder ring instead!

SnowBird
10-17-2008, 09:22 AM
I thought the Green K watch was used okay. The other time a Green K jewelry piece was used was when Clark went blind in a jewelry store heist that Clark stopped with heat vision. This time the watch was used perfectly with the story. They have to come up with creative ways to bring in Green K because you aren't going to find Kryptonite on every street corner in Metropolis.

Guidron
10-17-2008, 09:57 AM
I think it was meant to be a fluke. By pure chance, this guy, a jeweler, had made himself a watch using kryptonite stones to decorate it with.

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Depending on how long he's had that watch, he should be a meteor freak by now..

You could say the same about Lana with her necklace though.

Lauren_17
10-17-2008, 10:00 AM
What got me is a tiny piece of kryptonite from across the room was still affecting him, when most other times it becomes ineffective if it's not right next to him. I guess it's too late to hope for them to be consistent on that.

I didn't thing it was affecting him. I think he was trying to figure out he was going to get the kryptonite off of the crazed jewler.

Bizarrolover
10-17-2008, 12:06 PM
I don't care if his underwear is made of kryptonite. It kept Clark on that seat for the entire scene.

migo
10-17-2008, 04:17 PM
It seems to be that it has to get close to have an effect, but doesn't have to stay as close.

Dalghryn
10-17-2008, 07:42 PM
I just took the "Love It, Hate It" poll and rated this episode a "5." I'm obviously *way* outnumbered. Though I liked a lot of the show, the convenience of the kryptonite bracelet just killed me. I'm not certain how they could have accomplished what they were trying to accomplish without it - short of completely changing that part of the episode - but I'm really getting burned out on the kryptonite contrivances. Their overuse of kryptonite - like the first season's freaks of the week - is starting to stink of lazy writing.

Am I as outnumbered in this as I was in the poll?

REebee52
10-17-2008, 07:46 PM
Actually they've been better with Kryptonite than in the past (man those FOTW episodes... I dunno... Different era...) It's is a coincidence, but it's not HORRIBLY unbelievable. There was a meteor shower right near Metropolis, it seems natural to make jewelry out of that unique type of stone. It's a little contrived, but without it, we got nothing.

kal-el returns
10-17-2008, 07:51 PM
i dont understand why he'd be wearing that kryptonite watch at the dungeon place and why he didnt at the jewelry store when clark and lois were there

Meteror Freak
10-17-2008, 08:13 PM
Yeah, I thought it was too convenient way to get clark in the chair of truth. I like the sound of that....chair of truth. It sounds like something Chloe would have in her office.

optinox
10-17-2008, 08:16 PM
ya but it's over used way too much. when the first meteor shower happened, pieces of krypton traveled light years to reach earth. realistically only a few fragments would land on earth. smallvilles version showed numerous meteor rocks blasting from the sky into earth, in the surround smallville area which would cause larger amounts of kryptonite to be available.

unfortunately when smallville put that into the storyline they set it up so that there was quite abit of green K around. this sucks cause this is CK's major weakness, honestly if the writers want to stick to smallville having quite abit of green K around, then they should show clark developing a tolerence to green k.

Completely depowered again, vulnerable and bleeding, basically mortal over a guy wearing a bracelet with green k in it, in once scene the guy was standing a good distance away from lois and clark, so clark should've got his powers back, there was no continuity with that at all. even when the guy was 6 feet away the bracelet was covered by his clothing, since there's no way to get rid of all this green k that smallville has, then the next best thing is balance out this major weakness because considering the sceneario clark isn't so super even after his training, he needs to have a tolerence to green k by now, with all the years he's grown, and getting older, as a kryptonian he should be getting stronger, they could do this in 2 ways, just show that small amounts of green k don't affect him but in another scene show that larger amounts do, or another would be allow the small amounts of green k to still depower clark, but at least show an episode where clark and say justice legue find and destroy all the green k they can find, so that way it would be rare to use it agains supes or smallvilles CK, sometimes with smallvilles CK dying or getting hurt so much, it makes him not look so super in the end.

Dor el
10-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Call me sadistic, but I like a bleeding, bruised, hurt Clark. Kryptonite is pretty much the only way to produced a damaged Clark. I like watching him recover and overcome the villain. Sort of the underdog thing I guess. And there is always the possibility that Lois will be there to tend to his wounds. So I'm OK with Kryptonite. Pretty much most forms of it.

individuall
10-17-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm conflicted on this issue, because...I mean how else are you supposed to weaken Clark if not with his only weakness? I mean they had to get him strapped in that chair somehow how what else could they use beside kryptonite...It may be overused, but I think it's because it's his only weakness...So I don't know if they have a choice or not....Unless there's another weakness I don't know about...

kal-05
10-17-2008, 08:23 PM
It used to be overused I'll give you that. I remember way back when watching season 3 and almost every episode had Kryptonite I was thinking 'Jeez for three seasons his show has been relying on K rock, give it up already'.
Granted they still throw it in now again but it doesn't bug me as much as it did for the 1st 3 years of the show.
The last time I remeber seeing Kryptonite and rolling my eyes up to heaven was for Justice when Clark just walked straight into a room full of it.

SnowBird
10-17-2008, 08:43 PM
It may be over used at times but Tom does such a good job with acting in pain, I don't mind at all. I have never seen anyone else do better. Bring on the green K or any other Kryptonite as far as I'm concerned.

Sweetie
10-17-2008, 09:02 PM
Yeah,kryptonite should be hard to find.It's like every creep in the area has some.I guess they can't think of another way to stop Clark.

Bizarrolover
10-17-2008, 10:11 PM
It's overused, but is the only way to bring Clark down. Without it, the whole scene with the lie detector would have lasted only a second.

unfocused
10-17-2008, 10:43 PM
I agree with both points. Kryptonite is over-used. But it is one of the very few ways to fight Clark.

A different way is to have every villain be an alien with super powers, but their budget won't allow that to happen.

Dalghryn
10-17-2008, 10:45 PM
It's overused, but is the only way to bring Clark down. Without it, the whole scene with the lie detector would have lasted only a second.
Of course, they could have found some other way of getting the same message across that didn't necessarily involve kryptonite, but that would have required an effort. As for other weaknesses... magic and red solar energy are about it. Magic works OK in comics, but it has it's own inherent set of problems on TV. If I had the answer, I'd be a writer for the show. I wish they did is all. :\

Liquid-Prince
10-18-2008, 12:17 AM
Kryptonite will always have a heavy presence in the show because there have been two freaking meteor showers. Very logical, plus how else would they have had SUPERMAN succumb to some random jeweler? He would have walked in, saved Lois, punched the guy and walked out...

Serynarpc
10-18-2008, 12:29 AM
They never even went into why the Psycho of the week had a Kryptonite bracelet. As Clark had him in the room of mist away from Lois, he may have mentioned "Wow, I love that bracelet. Where'd you get it?" If there's a factory spewing out kryptonite bracelets or a big quarry full of the stuff that Clark's enemies find and refine into jewelry, you'd think this is something Clark would like to know.

Heck, maybe Lex is sitting on a refinery spewing out Kryptonite bracelets as a way of giving Clark some aches and pains :rolleyes:
I also thought it was odd that Lois didn't think that it was odd that muscular, fit Clark was taken out by a wiry jeweler.

Liquid-Prince
10-18-2008, 12:36 AM
They never even went into why the Psycho of the week had a Kryptonite bracelet. As Clark had him in the room of mist away from Lois, he may have mentioned "Wow, I love that bracelet. Where'd you get it?" If there's a factory spewing out kryptonite bracelets or a big quarry full of the stuff that Clark's enemies find and refine into jewelry, you'd think this is something Clark would like to know.

Heck, maybe Lex is sitting on a refinery spewing out Kryptonite bracelets as a way of giving Clark some aches and pains :rolleyes:
I also thought it was odd that Lois didn't think that it was odd that muscular, fit Clark was taken out by a wiry jeweler.

He was sort of in a rush to rescue Lois and he got hit in the face from behind with a big wrench...

bobsuncorp
10-18-2008, 04:12 AM
Although I do agree that Kryptonite is overused I also agree that it is a necessary foil for Clark. Having said that though, his secret is just as big a weakness. We could have had him stuck in the chair not because of the green K but because if he were to get up Lois would see him use super strength to break the chains.

baltazor
10-18-2008, 05:28 AM
Of course it is overused. But it is Clark's only weakness. Furthermore it allowed Clark to be captured and the scene that followed was totally worth it!!

Dor el
10-18-2008, 05:41 AM
They never even went into why the Psycho of the week had a Kryptonite bracelet. ...I also thought it was odd that Lois didn't think that it was odd that muscular, fit Clark was taken out by a wiry jeweler.

Well, green K is a pretty jewel and I suspect much cheaper (for the folks of Smallville who seem to be in large part farmers) than sapphire stones and we know that Smallville jewelry stores stock green K jewelry. Remember the epi where Clark got his super hearing?

I don't think Lois would think it odd that even a big strong guy like Clark would be taken out by a big pipe wrench up side the head. What she should be surprised about is that that blow to his head didn't kill him.

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Yeah,kryptonite should be hard to find.It's like every creep in the area has some.I guess they can't think of another way to stop Clark.

I'm hoping that one of the things that PS3 addresses is what becomes of all those blasted green meteor rock fragments at the end of the series. Because I feel certain that green K is in much shorter supply in the comics.

unfocused
10-18-2008, 07:45 AM
Ah, you raise a great question, Dor El. Will the new producers rid us of most of the GreenK? Surely, some has to be left, actually, a lot should be left, since Clark has yet to even become Superman. He has a long long journey ahead of him and his foe's will need a hefty supply to fight him with for the decades to come.

But I do believe that at least 90% of the GreenK in Smallville should be accounted for and destroyed by Clark and maybe even the JL.

redeem147
10-18-2008, 08:38 AM
I think it would have been more believable if a jeweler hadn't made himself such an ugly bracelet.

REebee52
10-18-2008, 09:20 AM
I think it would have been more believable if a jeweler hadn't made himself such an ugly bracelet.

Aye, there's the rub.
I think it's totally plausible he'd have a bracelet with these unique stones in it. But damn, that thing was hideous.

biggkoz
10-18-2008, 09:36 AM
Yeah it was way overused a couple years back but when I saw it on the guys bracelet it kinda reminded me of an old episode. Krytponite the bracelet,kryptonite the cereal,kryptonite the tv show,kryptonite the underwear,kryptonite the spaceballs.

Dor el
10-18-2008, 12:23 PM
I think it would have been more believable if a jeweler hadn't made himself such an ugly bracelet.

True. It was not a pretty bracelet. Maybe he had a sentimental attachment to it something like Lana's attachment to her necklace. Which by the way, I think Clark should return her necklace to her. Sorry about the digression.

Timester
10-18-2008, 12:28 PM
Kryptonite is used alot on jewelry on Smallville. Again, PS3 were barely using continuity with the K-Watch (yes, it was a watch).

It beats the "lame FOTW pulled from the arse" tactic from previous seasons. This way, we had a good normal human villain, that worked great for the episode.

borednow
10-18-2008, 12:43 PM
Kryptonite is over used
Water is wet
The Sun is hot
Objects in motion stay in motion unless acted upon by a force....

old guy
10-18-2008, 06:24 PM
I also thought that the frequent use of kryptonite is a weakness...of the writers.

In the old (I mean OLD) Adventures of Superman series with George Reeves, there was a lot less use of kryptonite. Clark was often with Lois and Jimmy when they ran into bad guys, crooks and muggers. Dressed as Clark, he was often forced to "go along" with the charade to avoid revealing his secret identity. For example, if bad guys pistol-whipped Lois and Clark, he'd have to pretend to be knocked out or else his secret would be revealed. Much like Clark's use of heat vision to create the smoke distraction in Committed, this type of scene was used often in Adventures of Superman for Clark to save Lois and Jimmy while not revealing his secret. In the case Committed, I thought that Lois and Clark could have been captured in much the same way as Chloe and Jimmy. The jeweler "shoots" them, Lois makes her "Son of a B*tch" remark (great line for her btw!) and drops. Clark looks around, sees Lois fall unconscious, sees the jeweler looking at him, and also falls pretending to be unconscious, to avoid revealing his secret. In that way, the jeweler could have gotten both of them in the chair and the writers wouldn't have had to resort to the "kryptonite copout".

Dor el
10-18-2008, 08:03 PM
But without the Kryptonite, Clark would have figured out a way to free himself, undetected of course, much sooner and we would have been deprived of that glorious "[sob]...yes...[sob]". Clark could have played along I guess, but when Lois started crying, his heart would have melted and he'd do whatever it took to free them both. In this situation, I think the use of Kryptonite was just dandy..I liked the payoff: Clark in an electric chair struggling against his bonds muscles bulging), watching Lois, and Lois admitting to loving Clark in order to prevent him from being hurt again, a nice warm and fuzzy moment.

Xanderman
10-18-2008, 09:34 PM
In the case Committed, I thought that Lois and Clark could have been captured in much the same way as Chloe and Jimmy. The jeweler "shoots" them, Lois makes her "Son of a B*tch" remark (great line for her btw!) and drops. Clark looks around, sees Lois fall unconscious, sees the jeweler looking at him, and also falls pretending to be unconscious, to avoid revealing his secret. In that way, the jeweler could have gotten both of them in the chair and the writers wouldn't have had to resort to the "kryptonite copout".To add to what Dorel said above me, the problem with this route is a complete lack of any real danger/threat to Clark. With Clark weakened by green-k, getting electrocuted could actually kill him. He really was hurt and in pain from the first shock, so when he told Lois to just tell the truth the second time, he really meant it. Lol, it wouldn't play the same if Clark was just faking. Wouldn't be as dramatic or tense.

And I doubt Clark would have let it get that far either way, since protecting Lois from harm is likely far more important to him than protecting his secret. Things never would have gotten as far as the chairs. If he was there, Clark would have angrily taken that guy out right after Lois got shot and then rushed her to a hospital, or he would have prevented her from being shot in the first place. As again, I'm sure Lois' safety means a lot more to him than his secret.

Green K is indeed an all-too-convenient recurring plot device, but it's one of the only ways to make Clark in actual danger of being beaten or killed by a (normal) human foe I guess....I usually cringe when it suddenly/conveniently shows up in the story to weaken Clark, but I guess they have no choice but to use it for certain stories or set-ups.

oqllcksmallville
10-18-2008, 09:52 PM
I'm conflicted on this issue, because...I mean how else are you supposed to weaken Clark if not with his only weakness? I mean they had to get him strapped in that chair somehow how what else could they use beside kryptonite...It may be overused, but I think it's because it's his only weakness...So I don't know if they have a choice or not....Unless there's another weakness I don't know about...
.. yeah there is ,
her name is LOIS . = )
sorry , you know i just had to do that . = P
LLLOOLLLL !
<3
and I tottaly aagree with what you said . = )

thebog1
10-18-2008, 10:02 PM
I didn't read the whole thead but to add my two cents in, I don't need to.

Who is Clark Kent? We all know that he is/will become Superman. He's the hero who fights for truth and justice. He has impeccable standards - not just of ordinary, inferior human being but for himself as well. He has a strong moral code, with ethics and values and he's essentially the hero almost anyone would/could want. He's the light at the end of a tunnel and he's the one that goes on fighting long after the war/battle has been lost.

What makes a good hero, though, is when we see them broken down. . . when we see them taken down into the depths of despair and agony, of pain and weakness... where they're stripped of anything 'strong' and 'noble' of them, where all the comfort zones have been stripped away. It's there, in that deep, dark pit of their hell that we come to realize who they are - truly are. It's not about his abilities and it's not about his being an alien. It's about him striving to do what he feels is the right thing, no matter what the cost. When we (the fans) see Clark broken and bruised, beat down and humiliated, overpowered, outmatched and outdone in every way, we see that he still doesn't/hasn't/won't quit. He will pick himself back up off the floor and try again - until it kills him. And, as we've seen, even after it kills him. It's only when he's been stripped of everything that we, the fans, can empathize with him. It's only then that we see that he's really just one of us - a person - who's trying to do the right thing. It's there, in that black, black moment of hell and torment that we can come to respect - to truly respect - everything he stands for and to know for him, it's not just a motto and it's not just something to do to kill time. It's something he believes in with every fiber of his being. And that's what makes him great - the powers/abilities just help him carry through on his journey towards doing the right thing.

How does this relate to the topic? Because, without kryptonite, we would almost never see him get down to that point. It's as much a part of him as light is to darkness. Without the darkness, how could we distinguish between (and ergo appreciate) the light?

ginnyfan
10-18-2008, 10:18 PM
I think it would have been more believable if a jeweler hadn't made himself such an ugly bracelet.

:rotfl: Oh that hurts me! LOL!


Kryptonite is over used
Water is wet
The Sun is hot
Objects in motion stay in motion unless acted upon by a force....

:D

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 10:25 PM
Nope, he was a jeweler after all. It would have been weak if he was just a random dude with a kryptonite bracelet.

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 10:44 PM
I just took the "Love It, Hate It" poll and rated this episode a "5." I'm obviously *way* outnumbered. Though I liked a lot of the show, the convenience of the kryptonite bracelet just killed me. I'm not certain how they could have accomplished what they were trying to accomplish without it - short of completely changing that part of the episode - but I'm really getting burned out on the kryptonite contrivances. Their overuse of kryptonite - like the first season's freaks of the week - is starting to stink of lazy writing.

Am I as outnumbered in this as I was in the poll?

Yes, you are outnumbered because SV has ALWAYS overused kryptonite. Why start complaining about it now? Oh, I know, because there's nothing else to complain about.

Aaand moving on....

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


Kryptonite is over used
Water is wet
The Sun is hot
Objects in motion stay in motion unless acted upon by a force....
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

OH.MY.GOD.

I totally spit out my coke right now.

Dor el
10-19-2008, 10:50 AM
I didn't read the whole thead but to add my two cents in, I don't need to.

Who is Clark Kent? We all know that he is/will become Superman. He's the hero who fights for truth and justice. He has impeccable standards - not just of ordinary, inferior human being but for himself as well. He has a strong moral code, with ethics and values and he's essentially the hero almost anyone would/could want. He's the light at the end of a tunnel and he's the one that goes on fighting long after the war/battle has been lost.

What makes a good hero, though, is when we see them broken down. . . when we see them taken down into the depths of despair and agony, of pain and weakness... where they're stripped of anything 'strong' and 'noble' of them, where all the comfort zones have been stripped away. It's there, in that deep, dark pit of their hell that we come to realize who they are - truly are. It's not about his abilities and it's not about his being an alien. It's about him striving to do what he feels is the right thing, no matter what the cost. When we (the fans) see Clark broken and bruised, beat down and humiliated, overpowered, outmatched and outdone in every way, we see that he still doesn't/hasn't/won't quit. He will pick himself back up off the floor and try again - until it kills him. And, as we've seen, even after it kills him. It's only when he's been stripped of everything that we, the fans, can empathize with him. It's only then that we see that he's really just one of us - a person - who's trying to do the right thing. It's there, in that black, black moment of hell and torment that we can come to respect - to truly respect - everything he stands for and to know for him, it's not just a motto and it's not just something to do to kill time. It's something he believes in with every fiber of his being. And that's what makes him great - the powers/abilities just help him carry through on his journey towards doing the right thing.

How does this relate to the topic? Because, without kryptonite, we would almost never see him get down to that point. It's as much a part of him as light is to darkness. Without the darkness, how could we distinguish between (and ergo appreciate) the light?

Bravo! You said this way better than I did. Without Clark nearly beaten in despair, we wouldn't be able to see him rise above it all in such a way that we realize that Clark Kent is a true hero with or without his powers. The powers, in my opinion, are a bonus to who he is.

Sweetie
10-19-2008, 10:58 AM
They could have done the scene without kryptonite.CK could faked it because he didn't want Lois to find out his secret.When I saw the preview I thought that was the case.But,it's true that the shovel would break at the impact of his face.I wish they could have come up with something better.But,it was a great anyway.

SnowBird
10-19-2008, 11:56 AM
I didn't read the whole thead but to add my two cents in, I don't need to.

Who is Clark Kent? We all know that he is/will become Superman. He's the hero who fights for truth and justice. He has impeccable standards - not just of ordinary, inferior human being but for himself as well. He has a strong moral code, with ethics and values and he's essentially the hero almost anyone would/could want. He's the light at the end of a tunnel and he's the one that goes on fighting long after the war/battle has been lost.

What makes a good hero, though, is when we see them broken down. . . when we see them taken down into the depths of despair and agony, of pain and weakness... where they're stripped of anything 'strong' and 'noble' of them, where all the comfort zones have been stripped away. It's there, in that deep, dark pit of their hell that we come to realize who they are - truly are. It's not about his abilities and it's not about his being an alien. It's about him striving to do what he feels is the right thing, no matter what the cost. When we (the fans) see Clark broken and bruised, beat down and humiliated, overpowered, outmatched and outdone in every way, we see that he still doesn't/hasn't/won't quit. He will pick himself back up off the floor and try again - until it kills him. And, as we've seen, even after it kills him. It's only when he's been stripped of everything that we, the fans, can empathize with him. It's only then that we see that he's really just one of us - a person - who's trying to do the right thing. It's there, in that black, black moment of hell and torment that we can come to respect - to truly respect - everything he stands for and to know for him, it's not just a motto and it's not just something to do to kill time. It's something he believes in with every fiber of his being. And that's what makes him great - the powers/abilities just help him carry through on his journey towards doing the right thing.

How does this relate to the topic? Because, without kryptonite, we would almost never see him get down to that point. It's as much a part of him as light is to darkness. Without the darkness, how could we distinguish between (and ergo appreciate) the light?

Thank you! You described Clark/Superman perfectly. No matter who you are, when you are at your lowest is when the true person comes forth. Clark overcoming diversity is a great part of Smallville and we see it most with the use of Green K. Thanks again:)

Griffin
10-19-2008, 01:21 PM
What I couldn't figure out was this. When the guy walked away from Clark he seemed far away enough that the Krptonite wouldn't affect Clark. I mean before Clark has to be pretty close to kryptonite for it to affect him. As soon as the guy walked back to the controls of that machine Clark should have not been affected.

kryptonian13
10-19-2008, 02:17 PM
i think it makes sense that a jeweler would have a bracelet made out of kryptonite. if it had been, say the bakery guy then that would be a little hard to explain. i agree with everyone that said that kryptonite is overused but is the only weakness they have against clark so they really don't have much of a choice. and i also agree that we don't see as much green k as we use to in the early seasons.

KelterDai
10-19-2008, 02:34 PM
If you really want to split hairs, what I don't understand is why Clark didn't rip off the restrains from Lois's hand when he kneels down and starts talking to her before he even feels the effects of Kryptonite.

He was there doing something, and yet the restraints remained...

Eh, not the best most believable writing, but then again, when has it ever been that?

oqllcksmallville
10-19-2008, 03:11 PM
It was just a bracelet. And it made sense since the guy worked in a jewelery shop.
yeah that's what i thought ,
- since he works at a jewelery shop .
I thought he would have a ring or a watch ,
but yeah .
Episode was still awesome . <3-

OneShotClois
10-19-2008, 03:36 PM
If you really want to split hairs, what I don't understand is why Clark didn't rip off the restrains from Lois's hand when he kneels down and starts talking to her before he even feels the effects of Kryptonite.

He was there doing something, and yet the restraints remained...

Eh, not the best most believable writing, but then again, when has it ever been that?

I never really thought about this, you bring up a good point. Although, Clark couldn't rip them off cause then she'd start asking questions, so I think he was going to go a more casual way and take it off a bit slower, but he only had a few seconds before the physco appeared..

You're right, they never have the most believable writing, but It's not such a big deal.

pjack
10-19-2008, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I thought it was too convenient way to get clark in the chair of truth. I like the sound of that....chair of truth. It sounds like something Chloe would have in her office.

Haha, actually it sounds like something Lana would have. She was the one always whining about the truth.

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I never really thought about this, you bring up a good point. Although, Clark couldn't rip them off cause then she'd start asking questions, so I think he was going to go a more casual way and take it off a bit slower, but he only had a few seconds before the physco appeared..

You're right, they never have the most believable writing, but It's not such a big deal.

Actually that is a good point. People just keep thinking Superman and NOT Clark. He couldn't have just ripped them off right in front of her or he would give away his secret. So while he was assessing the situation the guy knocked him out which took place within a few seconds. So thats not that unbelievable writing. Think logically and not that he has super powers to use anytime. He has to be careful. Thats why he used the fog as a screen later. The writing was fine.

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I think it was meant to be a fluke. By pure chance, this guy, a jeweler, had made himself a watch using kryptonite stones to decorate it with.

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You could say the same about Lana with her necklace though.
I agree here too. It was a fluke. The guy had no idea it would affect Clark. It just so happened that when he struck him it didn't bounce off because of the bracelet but he didn't know that. Also if he didn't have it on, Lois would have seen that tool bounce off his head and been like WTF? lol

thebog1
10-19-2008, 06:38 PM
Thank you but I was speaking from the heart. That's who Superman is, my extremely wordy, heartful post.

In fact, rereading my own post, I teared up a bit. . . I think I may have taken a page from Lois Lane and written that when I was a bit tipsy/drunk... :D (Kidding, of course).

In all seriousness, that's the way I see Clark Kent and Kryptonite. Without the dark, we can't appreciate the light. And, for Superman, irradiated pieces of his home planet are his 'darkness', which is iconic.

Kryptonite: Harms Superman...

Well, it's irradiated pieces of his home planet. Every piece of Kryptonite ought to remind him of what he lost - his entire race/civilization/way of life. The future he would have had, should have had. The thought alone ought to be painful.

It's also iconic in that it's what left of his home planet. His entire plant was destroyed. These few remnants hurt him. And why not? If the radiation destroyed his planet, surely they're out to destroy the nearly-last survivor of the Kryptonian race.

Just a further three cents. Can I get my change of a nickle please? :)

BULLITT
10-19-2008, 07:10 PM
I just took the "Love It, Hate It" poll and rated this episode a "5." I'm obviously *way* outnumbered. Though I liked a lot of the show, the convenience of the kryptonite bracelet just killed me. I'm not certain how they could have accomplished what they were trying to accomplish without it - short of completely changing that part of the episode - but I'm really getting burned out on the kryptonite contrivances. Their overuse of kryptonite - like the first season's freaks of the week - is starting to stink of lazy writing.

Am I as outnumbered in this as I was in the poll?

I understand your frustration. Still, I prefer it to - 'Well, how do we take his powers away from him, this week?', or the lame weakness to magic (such as a story in the very early forties when Luthor discovers a magical gem called the Powerstone, and uses it to make Superman powerless.).

cklookalike89
10-20-2008, 10:09 AM
Who still wears kryptonite jewrely in smallvilel anymore. Seems liek that is the only way we ever see anything. Why did that guy just happen to eb wearing a kryptonite bracelet. He must have nown clark was coming of course. Does this seem kind of stupid to anyone else or is it just me????

Tacitus
10-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Yeah, when I saw the bracelet I was like maaaan, kryptonite? Again!? :lol:

cklookalike89
10-20-2008, 10:18 AM
Yeah it is so ridicolous now that whenever we see clark bloody or anything you automatically know kryptonite has to be some stupid place. Its so random too

oberyn
10-20-2008, 10:30 AM
Yeah, when I saw the bracelet I was like maaaan, kryptonite? Again!? :lol:

I could have lived with them having a machine powered by kryptonite, but I definitely thought the kryptonite bracelet was pushing it. The guy was a jeweler so it's not as if he didn't know he wasn't wearing an emerald. I just tried not to think about how ludicrous it was as I was watching the episode.

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 10:46 AM
Thank you but I was speaking from the heart. That's who Superman is, my extremely wordy, heartful post.

In fact, rereading my own post, I teared up a bit. . . I think I may have taken a page from Lois Lane and written that when I was a bit tipsy/drunk... :D (Kidding, of course).

In all seriousness, that's the way I see Clark Kent and Kryptonite. Without the dark, we can't appreciate the light. And, for Superman, irradiated pieces of his home planet are his 'darkness', which is iconic.

Kryptonite: Harms Superman...

Well, it's irradiated pieces of his home planet. Every piece of Kryptonite ought to remind him of what he lost - his entire race/civilization/way of life. The future he would have had, should have had. The thought alone ought to be painful.

It's also iconic in that it's what left of his home planet. His entire plant was destroyed. These few remnants hurt him. And why not? If the radiation destroyed his planet, surely they're out to destroy the nearly-last survivor of the Kryptonian race.

Just a further three cents. Can I get my change of a nickle please? :)

A nice addition to your earlier post. I never thought about Kryptonite like that. A reminder of his home planet and what he lost. Green K hurts him in more ways than one. Good point!

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 11:20 AM
The jeweler was wearing a watch with green Kryptonite on the band. Jewelry has been used different times in Smallville. 1) Red K was substituted for rubies in the Smallville glass rings. 2) A green K broach was the cause of Clark going blind when he used heat vision. 3) Chloe was possesed by a spirit because she touched a green K bracelet worn by a dead girl. 4) When Lex was divided into good and bad Lex, he wore a green K ring. 5) Dax-Ur wore a wrist band with blue K on it . If I missed a piece of jewelry, maybe someone could let me know. I just don't see the problem with a jeweler making himself a watch with green kryptonite. Should a jeweler be criticized when even the main characters has worn or been effected by Kryptonite jewelry? The watch was perfect since it was easy to remove by a weakened Clark. A ring would have been hard to remove. Kryptonite being attached to the equipment on Clark would have made him unconscious or even killed him if he was exposed too long. IMO the watch was a logical way to use green K to make clark weak but still able to find a way to escape.

ElVibo
10-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Wasn't it a watch?

Eurynome
10-20-2008, 11:27 AM
The kyptonite bracelet was really my only complaint about the episode. But I guess they needed a plot device to get Clark in the electric chair.

ElVibo
10-20-2008, 11:28 AM
The jeweler was wearing a watch with green Kryptonite on the band. Jewelry has been used different times in Smallville. 1) Red K was substituted for rubies in the Smallville glass rings. 2) A green K broach was the cause of Clark going blind when he used heat vision. 3) Chloe was possesed by a spirit because she touched a green K bracelet worn by a dead girl. 4) When Lex was divided into good and bad Lex, he wore a green K ring. 5) Dax-Ur wore a wrist band with blue K on it . If I missed a piece of jewelry, maybe someone could let me know. I just don't see the problem with a jeweler making himself a watch with green kryptonite. Should a jeweler be criticized when even the main characters has worn or been effected by Kryptonite jewelry? The watch was perfect since it was easy to remove by a weakened Clark. A ring would have been hard to remove. Kryptonite being attached to the equipment on Clark would have made him unconscious or even killed him if he was exposed too long. IMO the watch was a logical way to use green K to make clark weak but still able to find a way to escape.

what she said

Guidron
10-20-2008, 11:29 AM
Like SnowBird, I found it rather believable that a jeweler of all people would have a watch decorated with Kryptonite stones.

smlvlchk
10-20-2008, 11:30 AM
I guess SnowBird has a good point. I was kind of under the same impression as cklookalike89, goin' "Yeah, come on, seriously?" But, I mean, we make jewelry out of every other kind of gem. If it were an emerald that Clark were "allergic" to, would we be saying the same thing?! Lol. Also, if there were no kryptonite involved, everything would be too easy. When it comes to Lois...not everything is going to be. There have been two meteor showers. There's enough kryptonite to supply jewelry stores around the world. It's practical.

Guidron
10-20-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't really feel that it's overused. I believe this is the first time we've seen it this season thus far, and it was used in a pretty believable fashion.

In the past it has come up a lot, but I don't know if it's a case of overuse or just non-intelligent use. Are the fans truly tired of seeing kryptonite used, or just tired of seeing it used stupidly?

I agree that there seems to be a large supply of it around, but with the amount of meteors that crashed to earth in the Smallville universe, there should be a decent amount of it hanging around. As long as it's used in believable fashion, which I feel it was in committed, then I have no problem with it being utilized on a somewhat frequent basis.

Also, judging from the preview of next weeks show, the use of kryptonite won't be too frequent this year as Clark is going to have Doomsday to deal with.

oberyn
10-20-2008, 11:34 AM
Jewelry has been used different times in Smallville. 1) Red K was substituted for rubies in the Smallville glass rings. 2) A green K broach was the cause of Clark going blind when he used heat vision. 3) Chloe was possesed by a spirit because she touched a green K bracelet worn by a dead girl. 4) When Lex was divided into good and bad Lex, he wore a green K ring. 5) Dax-Ur wore a wrist band with blue K on it .

I don't think anyone's disagreeing that the watch was a way to get Clark in a weakened state. I think we're just complaining that, even by Smallville standards, this one was set up rather poorly.

In "Onyx", bad Lex put on a green K ring specifically to exploit Clark's weakness.

Dax-Ur wore the blue K wristband for a specific purpose, as well.

In "Red", you can understand why the ring company would substitute red K for rubies without telling those who were buying the class rings. $$$$

In "Whisper", Clark asks to see inexpensive jewelry. I thought it was somewhat understandable that cheap costume jewelry in Smallville would be made out of meteor rock.

In "Tomb", Michael's father used to make kryptonite bracelets. Sort of random, but at least there was an attempt to explain the presence of the kryptonite.

In all of these instances, there was some explanation given as to why kryptonite was being used in that manner. In "Committed", I thought it was pretty weak to have a jeweler just randomly walking around wearing a watch with kryptonite on the band when in previous instances there was an attempt made to explain this to the audience.

Humdinger
10-20-2008, 12:42 PM
Yeah, it was weak, but I forgive them cause the rest of the ep was pretty good.

Sv.LoisLane
10-20-2008, 12:56 PM
The jeweler was wearing a watch with green Kryptonite on the band. Jewelry has been used different times in Smallville. 1) Red K was substituted for rubies in the Smallville glass rings. 2) A green K broach was the cause of Clark going blind when he used heat vision. 3) Chloe was possesed by a spirit because she touched a green K bracelet worn by a dead girl. 4) When Lex was divided into good and bad Lex, he wore a green K ring. 5) Dax-Ur wore a wrist band with blue K on it . If I missed a piece of jewelry, maybe someone could let me know. I just don't see the problem with a jeweler making himself a watch with green kryptonite. Should a jeweler be criticized when even the main characters has worn or been effected by Kryptonite jewelry? The watch was perfect since it was easy to remove by a weakened Clark. A ring would have been hard to remove. Kryptonite being attached to the equipment on Clark would have made him unconscious or even killed him if he was exposed too long. IMO the watch was a logical way to use green K to make clark weak but still able to find a way to escape.

ITA! I don't think any other form of Kryptonite would have been appropriate in this episode. It would have been, though, to see some Kryptonite-made jewellery back at the store, but then the whole Clark/Lois/Oliver scene would have had a "green glow" :lol:

ETA: Well... there is one piece of jewellery you forgot. Lana's necklace :rolleyes: haunting us from season 1 to season 8 (I mean, c'mon... in Martha Kent's kitchen too?)

oberyn
10-20-2008, 01:13 PM
ITA! I don't think any other form of Kryptonite would have been appropriate in this episode. It would have been, though, to see some Kryptonite-made jewellery back at the store, but then the whole Clark/Lois/Oliver scene would have had a "green glow" :lol:

I don't ask much from this show. All I want is one line of dialogue explaining why the villain just happens to be wearing a piece of kryptonite jewelry.

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 01:14 PM
ETA: Well... there is one piece of jewellery you forgot. Lana's necklace :rolleyes: haunting us from season 1 to season 8 (I mean, c'mon... in Martha Kent's kitchen too?)

Thanks for reminding me. How could I forget Lana's necklace. The beginning of knowing that Clark was allergic to green K in the pilot. Yes, it is still in Clark's life as a reminder. There is a scene where a boy can see how a person dies. He touches Lana and sees her dying as an old lady and she is wearing her necklace. I don't think we have seen the end of Lana's necklace. Maybe we will see Clark give it back to her before she leaves Smallville.

oberyn
10-20-2008, 01:15 PM
Thanks for reminding me. How could I forget Lana's necklace. The beginning of knowing that Clark was allergic to green K in the pilot. Yes, it is still in Clark's life as a reminder. There is a scene where a boy can see how a person dies. He touches Lana and sees her dying as an old lady and she is wearing her necklace. I don't think we have seen the end of Lana's necklace. Maybe we will see Clark give it back to her before she leaves Smallville.

I hope Clark gives the now-neutralized necklace back to Lana the next time he sees her. I think that would provide a wonderful sense of closure.

Sv.LoisLane
10-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Thanks for reminding me. How could I forget Lana's necklace. The beginning of knowing that Clark was allergic to green K in the pilot. Yes, it is still in Clark's life as a reminder. There is a scene where a boy can see how a person dies. He touches Lana and sees her dying as an old lady and she is wearing her necklace. I don't think we have seen the end of Lana's necklace. Maybe we will see Clark give it back to her before she leaves Smallville.

Hmmm... that would be interesting.
I remember that ep. If this season Clark gives her the necklace back and she'll wear it till the day she'll die, as an old and happy lady, the continuity circle will be closed perfectly!

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I don't ask much from this show. All I want is one line of dialogue explaining why the villain just happens to be wearing a piece of kryptonite jewelry.

Yup, a line like "this bracelet was my wife's. I've kept it so each day I can remember the pain... bla bla bla" would have been pretty nice. Well... it's done now, maybe next time they'll do it better.

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 01:28 PM
I don't ask much from this show. All I want is one line of dialogue explaining why the villain just happens to be wearing a piece of kryptonite jewelry.

There are many things unexplained in Smallville so we have to use our imaginations to give us answers. The jeweler didn't know Clark was super powered and that green K would make him weak so we can rule that out. I believe it was pure chance that he wore that watch that day. Things happen by chance in everyones lives so why not this time? To me it isn't that important why so I will just add it to the SV pile of the strange and unexplained and leave it at that.

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Yup, a line like "this bracelet was my wife's. I've kept it so each day I can remember the pain... bla bla bla" would have been pretty nice. Well... it's done now, maybe next time they'll do it better.

Actually that is a good reason for the jeweler to wear the watch/bracelet. I think I'm going to adopt that for an answer.

meteor
10-20-2008, 01:38 PM
at least we have yet to see the kryptonite nose ring

oberyn
10-20-2008, 01:42 PM
There are many things unexplained in Smallville so we have to use our imaginations to give us answers. The jeweler didn't know Clark was super powered and that green K would make him weak so we can rule that out. I believe it was pure chance that he wore that watch that day.

Chance, shmance. I wanted a cheesy, Smallville line about the watch/bracelet and was disappointed when I didn't get one. :p

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Chance, shmance. I wanted a cheesy, Smallville line about the watch/bracelet and was disappointed when I didn't get one. :p

I guess you will be disappointed then cause it is over and done with now, sorry:(

oberyn
10-20-2008, 01:46 PM
at least we have yet to see the kryptonite nose ring

Chloe: Clark, what's wrong? You have something against body art?
Clark: [Struggling for breath]. No, all those piercings. The body jewelry's made of kryptonite.

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I guess you will be disappointed then cause it is over and done with now, sorry:(

Nah, I'm still holding out hope there will be a deleted scene or two devoted entirely to this on the Season 8 DVD. The show owes me that much. :lol:

SnowBird
10-20-2008, 01:59 PM
Nah, I'm still holding out hope there will be a deleted scene or two devoted entirely to this on the Season 8 DVD. The show owes me that much. :lol:

Good luck...I'd go for that as well:)

Dar'el
10-20-2008, 03:32 PM
wrong he has 2 weaknesses Green K and Magic, so you want more witch, vampire, storylines, I dont. yeah there is a lot more kryptonite in this show than any other show or movie about superman(does a whole continent count as alot) but this is the only adaptation to have 2 meteor showers, so there is a ton of it. also as a few have said, he would have never been tied up without the bracelet, so how could you have conflict, then struggle, then "sob...yes", then resolution withot it. I think these guys know what there doing, good job with the Green K guys, but Red is so much better

Hopefulsuicide
10-20-2008, 04:56 PM
my reaction was 'yay, finally some green k!'

personally i love a little injected into every episode. but that's prob my love of TC coming through. but it does advance plots a lot of the time. i mean in some episodes it's pointless... like in Blank, i didn't affect the plot at all. But in moments like Nemesis Commited and many others i'm too tired to think of, it is a very useful plot tool.

kryptonite is used in every single interpretation of Superman, and yeah it's used a hell of a lot more in Smallville, but that's because they like the drama of Clark being in pain and not always winning so easily.

okay, so a green k watch was a bit mad... could have been something else... even a ring or something...

but it did serve a purpose. i mean if Lois hadn't been afraid for Clark, we never would have had such wonderful moments.

cklookalike89
10-20-2008, 07:06 PM
I just thought of something. If that stupid jewler wore the watch or bracelet then why wasnt clark affected in the jewlery store? Yopu would think he would have felt it when he was right next to the guy. So does the jewler only war it when he knows clark is coming to save lois so he can weaken him. Seems pretty ridicolous

Mr.White
10-20-2008, 09:56 PM
[QUOTE=old guy;4081254]I also thought that the frequent use of kryptonite is a weakness...of the writers.

There you go. Yes kryptonite is a weakness of Clark's. And yes it would be hard to use anything else against him other than magic. But the original poster has a good point. Kryptonite is used too much by the writers and makers of Smallville. It seems that whenever the writers have a problem creating something that can have Clark in serious danger in a certain episode just bring out the kryptonite.

stenochick
10-21-2008, 07:29 AM
I just took the "Love It, Hate It" poll and rated this episode a "5." I'm obviously *way* outnumbered. Though I liked a lot of the show, the convenience of the kryptonite bracelet just killed me. I'm not certain how they could have accomplished what they were trying to accomplish without it - short of completely changing that part of the episode - but I'm really getting burned out on the kryptonite contrivances. Their overuse of kryptonite - like the first season's freaks of the week - is starting to stink of lazy writing.

Am I as outnumbered in this as I was in the poll?

I totally agree with you that kryptonite is overused, as well as Clark losing his powers. However, the reason it is overused is because Clark is invincible and really fast. If logic dictated every episode instead of dramatic story-telling, every episode would be five mintes long and really boring.

The only "logical" way for Clark to get into most of these situations is for him to be weakened by Kryptonite or for Jor-el to take away his powers. He is not your typical superhero who has one or two special gifts, but still faces some physical limitations. He is super-smart, super-fast, invincibly strong, not to mention the heat-vision and such.

The writers need to come up with some alternatives to green kryptonite. Maybe reintroduce the blue kryptonite or even alcohol. What if instead of Clark being immune to alcohol, he is overly sensitive to it? Kryptonians could be like Native Americans or Asians who get drunk easily because they have difficulty metabolising alcohol. Just trying to think outside the box.

Or they could deal with Clark on a more psychological and emotional level in order to explore his fears of flying and loneliness. Not every episode has to involve him being SuperClark and saving the day with his physical powers.

Dodge006
10-21-2008, 08:11 AM
I think it is HUGELY overused...however makes sense for this EP. (as others have pointed out) Jewelers do get their hands on the K, and there have been two meteor showers. I wouldn't have minded it as much this time, if there were less other times.

Also the consistancy of how much it affects Clark, and when/how far away needs to be fixed. There have been EPs where a small rock was placed on his chest and it completely paralizes him, and now he can grab the bracelet, BREAK it off his wrist, and throw it away. As for the range, someone stated how in "Justice" he walked into a room full of it, and didn't notice until it was too late, but again in other EPs he could feel Lana's necklass from across the room. That's what really bugs me the most about K EPs.

stenochick
10-21-2008, 08:19 AM
I think it is HUGELY overused...however makes sense for this EP. (as others have pointed out) Jewelers do get their hands on the K, and there have been two meteor showers. I wouldn't have minded it as much this time, if there were less other times.

Also the consistancy of how much it affects Clark, and when/how far away needs to be fixed. There have been EPs where a small rock was placed on his chest and it completely paralizes him, and now he can grab the bracelet, BREAK it off his wrist, and throw it away. As for the range, someone stated how in "Justice" he walked into a room full of it, and didn't notice until it was too late, but again in other EPs he could feel Lana's necklass from across the room. That's what really bugs me the most about K EPs.

It seems like he has more control over the refined Krypto as opposed to the actual meteor rocks. Lana's necklace is an actual piece of rock, I believe. The jeweller's watch appeared to be made with refined kryptonite, like it was melted down and molded into a bangle bracelet.

They do need to address the inconsistencies with the distance he is away from it and the effect it has on him. That has always bothered me as well.

Dodge006
10-21-2008, 08:34 AM
It seems like he has more control over the refined Krypto as opposed to the actual meteor rocks. Lana's necklace is an actual piece of rock, I believe. The jeweller's watch appeared to be made with refined kryptonite, like it was melted down and molded into a bangle bracelet.

They do need to address the inconsistencies with the distance he is away from it and the effect it has on him. That has always bothered me as well.

See, now I find it really funny that you think that...cuz normally I'd agree. But the first time Clark found out that Lex was storing and refining "meteor rock" it was like the refined stuff was much more potent then the rocks. Under most cases of anything when refinded it becomes more "pure", but as the whloe idea of K is it's radioactive, the normal pieces should be worse.

Again, the inconsistencies.:)

stenochick
10-21-2008, 08:43 AM
See, now I find it really funny that you think that...cuz normally I'd agree. But the first time Clark found out that Lex was storing and refining "meteor rock" it was like the refined stuff was much more potent then the rocks. Under most cases of anything when refinded it becomes more "pure", but as the whloe idea of K is it's radioactive, the normal pieces should be worse.

Again, the inconsistencies.:)

Good point. My biggest piece of evidence for my theory is that whenever someone places a chunk of meteor rock on Clark's person, he is completely down for the count until someone comes and removes the rock by tossing it as far as they can.

With refined K, I have noticed that, although he is weakened by it, he is able to handle it and push it out of the way.

Now, of course, I am sure there are tons of instances where this was not the case. The only consistency is that Green K will have whatever effect it needs to have on Clark to further the plot. :)

Dodge006
10-21-2008, 09:17 AM
The only consistency is that Green K will have whatever effect it needs to have on Clark to further the plot. :)

:rotfl:Exactly

Guidron
10-21-2008, 10:47 AM
Now, of course, I am sure there are tons of instances where this was not the case. The only consistency is that Green K will have whatever effect it needs to have on Clark to further the plot. :)

Now THIS is 100% on the money. It always seems to affect Clark differently depending on the situation. The bracelet seemed to have quite a bit of kryptonite on it, so it can't be a quantity thing, as Lex's ring that rendered him barely able to move didn't have near the amount. So is it purity? and if it is, how do we know what's pure and whats not?

Nevertheless I have a tendency to overlook these types of things, especially when I'm watching the show.

SnowBird
10-21-2008, 10:54 AM
Now THIS is 100% on the money. It always seems to affect Clark differently depending on the situation. The bracelet seemed to have quite a bit of kryptonite on it, so it can't be a quantity thing, as Lex's ring that rendered him barely able to move didn't have near the amount. So is it purity? and if it is, how do we know what's pure and whats not?

Nevertheless I have a tendency to overlook these types of things, especially when I'm watching the show.

Exactly! Couldn't have said it better. Thanks:)

Fallen One
10-22-2008, 01:32 AM
The very first episode- the Pilot- told all of us that Kryptonite was used in jewelry. Lana's necklace, people, had Kryptonite.

Its not contrived, its been a part of the show since the very begginning. The guy was a jewerler. It made perfect sense.

Guidron
10-22-2008, 08:06 AM
I know it's off topic... but I love the avi Cedric. HAHAHA.

Fallen One
10-22-2008, 02:48 PM
Thanks Craig!

SnowBird
10-23-2008, 09:53 AM
The jeweler was wearing a watch with green Kryptonite on the band. Jewelry has been used different times in Smallville. 1) Red K was substituted for rubies in the Smallville glass rings. 2) A green K broach was the cause of Clark going blind when he used heat vision. 3) Chloe was possesed by a spirit because she touched a green K bracelet worn by a dead girl. 4) When Lex was divided into good and bad Lex, he wore a green K ring. 5) Dax-Ur wore a wrist band with blue K on it . If I missed a piece of jewelry, maybe someone could let me know. I just don't see the problem with a jeweler making himself a watch with green kryptonite. Should a jeweler be criticized when even the main characters has worn or been effected by Kryptonite jewelry? The watch was perfect since it was easy to remove by a weakened Clark. A ring would have been hard to remove. Kryptonite being attached to the equipment on Clark would have made him unconscious or even killed him if he was exposed too long. IMO the watch was a logical way to use green K to make clark weak but still able to find a way to escape.

FYI...Besides leaving Lana's necklace off my list, I found another time when green K was used as jewelry. I'm watching S1 and in "Reaper" a man wearing a green K bracelet was asked by his mother to kill her because she was old and sick. In a strugle, he fell out of the window and was killed. The green K was lodged in his wrist making him a walking dead man that could kill a person with his touch.

Dar'el
04-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Good point. My biggest piece of evidence for my theory is that whenever someone places a chunk of meteor rock on Clark's person, he is completely down for the count until someone comes and removes the rock by tossing it as far as they can.

With refined K, I have noticed that, although he is weakened by it, he is able to handle it and push it out of the way.

Now, of course, I am sure there are tons of instances where this was not the case. The only consistency is that Green K will have whatever effect it needs to have on Clark to further the plot. :)


but what about "the princess bride" concept. the dread pirate roberts, slowly devoloped an immunity to iocaine powder. I have always felt that superman, or clark would eventually become more and more unfazed by it. he will never be immune to it. but he he digs down deep enough he should be able to move it. Kinda like Superman returns, he flew a whole continent of Kryptonite to space, yes it almost killed him, but it didn't. also the reason he doesn't notice kyrptonite untill he's in the room, cause it hasn't glowed yet. it glows when he comes near it thats how we know he's affected. so it toolate.