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costas22
10-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Just a small observation that i made as i rewatched the episode.Clark thought that Lois lied.You can see it by how he moves his body and how he looks at the lie detector.We talked about Erica's awesome performance in this episode but Tom wasn't bad either!And since i don't like to go aroun opening topics i would like to ask something i didn't get.What did Lois imply in the final scene?That Clark would lie that he wasn't in love with Lois while he was?

individuall
10-17-2008, 04:48 PM
eas posted this in the 'Clois scene' thread and I think it sums up Clark's reaction very well, IMO..


You know? I think that this wasn't the moment that Clark Kent falls in love with Lois Lane. But I think that this is the first moment he realizes that he could...

Kevin24
10-17-2008, 05:25 PM
The look Clark gave told me that he realized that something was going on between himself and Lois. He took notice that she does have feelings for him and he might have some feelings for her too.

But back to your question....I really didn't understand what she meant by it. Honestly, because if he would have lied she would have got shocked by the chair.

So really I have no idea what she meant by it.

If you think about, she implied that he would have tried to lie and that means she would have got shocked....and they would be in deep doo doo.

I judge what she said by the reactions they gave after what she said. Judging by their reactions I think she said behind the banter was that they both would know that they had feelings for each other.

So they might be together?

thebog1
10-17-2008, 05:29 PM
I don't think she lied. She claimed to have slipped the test off but the viewer never sees proof of that. In addition, Clark was the one who freed her from the restraints. I'm pretty sure he would have noticed if the detector-thing on her finger had been off. So, IMO, I think she told the truth and then lied about it being the truth.

As to what she meant - if Clark had to answer the question, does he 'love her':

If he did and said yes: their relationship would be at an awkward point.
If he did and said no: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said yes: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said no: her own feelings of Clark would be awkward and would make things awkward between them.

Basically, no matter how he answered it had it been on him, things would have gotten awkward or Lois would have died.

HalJordan4184
10-17-2008, 05:35 PM
I don't think she lied. She claimed to have slipped the test off but the viewer never sees proof of that. In addition, Clark was the one who freed her from the restraints. I'm pretty sure he would have noticed if the detector-thing on her finger had been off. So, IMO, I think she told the truth and then lied about it being the truth.

As to what she meant - if Clark had to answer the question, does he 'love her':

If he did and said yes: their relationship would be at an awkward point.
If he did and said no: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said yes: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said no: her own feelings of Clark would be awkward and would make things awkward between them.

Basically, no matter how he answered it had it been on him, things would have gotten awkward or Lois would have died.


I think the whole point of the thing, was that Clark was giving Lois an out on what she said. He could have held it over her head, but instead, in an obvious, but well intentioned manner, tried to play it off. They both know she has feelings for him, but they aren't going down that road, and instead will just play it off like nothing happened.

As for her comment to Clark, she was trying to poke fun at him, and jokingly imply he could never get the machine to read a false positive, so she'd have gotten shocked, because he sucks at lying.

individuall
10-17-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't think she lied. She claimed to have slipped the test off but the viewer never sees proof of that. In addition, Clark was the one who freed her from the restraints. I'm pretty sure he would have noticed if the detector-thing on her finger had been off. So, IMO, I think she told the truth and then lied about it being the truth.

As to what she meant - if Clark had to answer the question, does he 'love her':

If he did and said yes: their relationship would be at an awkward point.
If he did and said no: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said yes: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said no: her own feelings of Clark would be awkward and would make things awkward between them.

Basically, no matter how he answered it had it been on him, things would have gotten awkward or Lois would have died.

The only thing I don't get is if she was telling the truth (which I'm positive she wasn't) then why was she avoiding Clark? Why didn't she rush up to him at the DP and explain what happened right away, then? She didn't she was actively trying to avoid him. And in the elevator when she brings 'it' up she's at a loss for words and sighs and there definitely awkwardness and silence..And you can tell she's trying really hard to think of a good excuse...Then Clark gives her a way out. And she takes it. And kinda turns the table on poor Clarkie...To me it's obvious she was lying...If she had actually slipped the sensor off, she would have definitely cleared it up with him immediately in Lois Lane fashion. She would not have been avoiding him. There would not have been that much awkward tension.

And I don't think if she was shocked once she would've have died..Chloe was shocked once and yes she was hurt but she didn't die...

I don't know how Clark would've have answered the question...But the last scene clearly indicates that neither does Clark ;)

IMHO.

Clana4Life
10-17-2008, 05:41 PM
I don't think she lied. She claimed to have slipped the test off but the viewer never sees proof of that. In addition, Clark was the one who freed her from the restraints. I'm pretty sure he would have noticed if the detector-thing on her finger had been off. So, IMO, I think she told the truth and then lied about it being the truth.

I think the original poster meant that Clark thought Lois lied when she said "Yes, I love him" because he looked ready to be electrocuted. Like he expected that it was a lie, so he braced himself for the pain.

At the end, Clark originally thought Lois was telling the truth. He was pretty smug about it in a sort of "I know you love me" sort of way. But he did seemingly believe that she took the detector-thing off of her finger when she told that lie. You can tell because he was a bit bothered by that revelation. That lie took him down a few notches. So it seems that he did believe she took the detector off. It's probably better that way anyway, otherwise it would have progressed the relationship way too fast. At least this gives viewers something to look forward to.

baltazor
10-17-2008, 05:47 PM
The thing is that even if she had slipped the lie detector off her finger she could still deny her feelings for Clark and the lie detector wouldn't pick it up. There is no room for doubt. She actually expressed her true feelings during the "interrogation".
The elevator scene was just to get over the awkwardness.

Clana4Life
10-17-2008, 05:50 PM
The thing is that even if she had slipped the lie detector off her finger she could still deny her feelings for Clark and the lie detector wouldn't pick it up. There is no room for doubt. She actually expressed her true feelings during the "interrogation".
The elevator scene was just to get over the awkwardness.

Agreed. Yes, I think everyone knows that she loves Clark except for Clark. He bought her lie in the elevator that she took the detector off of her finger. I mean at first, Clark was trying to give her an out so that it would not be so awkward for her, but then she turned the tables on him and told him she slipped the thing off. He just had this look of "wow, I actually thought you loved me" look on his face. Lois crushed that, which was good because Clark was kind of smug when he thought that Lois loved him. I'm actually glad she brought him down a few notches.

thebog1
10-17-2008, 05:50 PM
Nah. She told the truth about his feelings and the 'out' is claiming that she lied and lying that the detector didn't read it as a lie because she tok the sensor off. Clark's puzzled look, I'd attribute it more to his not understanding why she's backing up or taking back or denying what she actually said. That's why she'd have been avoiding him. She hadn't been ready for him to know but told the truth because she wasn't ready to have Clark die more. Now that he's safe, she can safely back up what she said by claming it was false and hoping he'd either let it go or just not remember a detail as small as whether it was on her finger or not. Either way, he accepts it - with an obvious puzzled look of disbelief. Most likely, he's going to let her keep her dignity and not call her on the lie and just worry about it when she's ready to tell him in her own time and not some psychopath's.

kal-05
10-17-2008, 05:50 PM
I think she was just teasing him in the elevator at the end just to get some sort of reaction from him and also to get the focus off of her.

Clana4Life
10-17-2008, 06:03 PM
Nah. She told the truth about his feelings and the 'out' is claiming that she lied and lying that the detector didn't read it as a lie because she tok the sensor off. Clark's puzzled look, I'd attribute it more to his not understanding why she's backing up or taking back or denying what she actually said. That's why she'd have been avoiding him. She hadn't been ready for him to know but told the truth because she wasn't ready to have Clark die more. Now that he's safe, she can safely back up what she said by claming it was false and hoping he'd either let it go or just not remember a detail as small as whether it was on her finger or not. Either way, he accepts it - with an obvious puzzled look of disbelief. Most likely, he's going to let her keep her dignity and not call her on the lie and just worry about it when she's ready to tell him in her own time and not some psychopath's.

Clark's easily led astray. I think he bought Lois' lie and believed it as truth. We just perceived this scene differently. Time will prove one of us wrong, I think. Because this will come up again and I think Clark will say that "Lois does not love me." I don't think he noticed the thing on her finger. Too much was going on for him to notice or remember that detail. I agree that Clark was giving her an out when she first got into the elevator, but I think she quickly turned the tables on him and made him believe that she slipped the thing off her finger hence the reason why he wasn't electrocuted.

Mr.Magic
10-17-2008, 06:18 PM
I don't think she lied. She claimed to have slipped the test off but the viewer never sees proof of that. In addition, Clark was the one who freed her from the restraints. I'm pretty sure he would have noticed if the detector-thing on her finger had been off. So, IMO, I think she told the truth and then lied about it being the truth.

As to what she meant - if Clark had to answer the question, does he 'love her':

If he did and said yes: their relationship would be at an awkward point.
If he did and said no: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said yes: she would have been electrocuted and/or killed.
If he did not and said no: her own feelings of Clark would be awkward and would make things awkward between them.

Basically, no matter how he answered it had it been on him, things would have gotten awkward or Lois would have died.

I have to disagree there. I think what she said had double meaning.
If she knew he loves her they would be someplace else, having sex. Lois thinks that she needs all her marbles not to jump him anyway, that's why she always has to ask if they did it, after she sobers up. :p

ps: Forgot a smiley, so you people don't take what I wrote too seriously.