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AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 08:08 PM
I felt so bad for Ollie in this episode! First thinking Lois and Clark are getting married....then becoming Tess's booty call!! :confused:

For a split second I thought I saw a little humanity in Tess...but sleeping with Ollie just to "scratch an itch" and then saying "why dont you give that bracelet to your next waitress." She is cold!

But I cant lie...it made me like her more, she's pretty evil. ;)

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 08:08 PM
I got a dirty image when she said that. :D

eas
10-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.

WickedJenn
10-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Hey Andi dear, hope you don't mind I added to your title a bit ;)

Ollie's getting played, very interesting.

individuall
10-16-2008, 08:09 PM
I felt so bad for Ollie in this episode! First thinking Lois and Clark are getting married....then becoming Tess's booty call!! :confused:

For a split second I thought I saw a little humanity in Tess...but sleeping with Ollie just to "scratch an itch" and then saying "why dont you give that bracelet to your next waitress." She is cold!

But I cant lie...it made me like her more, she's pretty evil. ;)

ITA. I've really liked Tess since Toxic...But this line..Just made me LOVE her...It was cold and harsh and B!tchy....And I loved her for saying it!

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 08:10 PM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.


Not really. He cheated on her way back when. Probably out of some spite that he had towards her and why he actually knows to call her Mercy.

Smallville6
10-16-2008, 08:10 PM
I was totally rooting for Tess- I mean, Ollie cheated on her!
She's so cold and I love her character! I did feel bad for Ollie, but IA with you AndiGirl, It made me love the girl even more!

Aloof
10-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Yeah! Go Tess!! Those scenes were great between them. I especially loved the end. So cold and wicked.

krpto
10-16-2008, 08:17 PM
I felt so bad for Ollie in this episode! First thinking Lois and Clark are getting married....then becoming Tess's booty call!! :confused:

For a split second I thought I saw a little humanity in Tess...but sleeping with Ollie just to "scratch an itch" and then saying "why dont you give that bracelet to your next waitress." She is cold!

But I cant lie...it made me like her more, she's pretty evil. ;)


See every guy well at least most straight guys said ouch then said man I wish I was ollie lucky sob.

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 08:18 PM
Hey Andi dear, hope you don't mind I added to your title a bit ;)

Ollie's getting played, very interesting.

Of course not miss Jenn!! :)

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


ITA. I've really liked Tess since Toxic...But this line..Just made me LOVE her...It was cold and harsh and B!tchy....And I loved her for saying it!

I think thats why the writers did it. To show she wouldnt even let an old love break through her cold exterior. She's a true Lex minion now. And..I love it! :lol:

----- Added 1 Minutes later -----


See every guy well at least most straight guys said ouch then said man I wish I was ollie lucky sob.

:rotfl:

Alexander III
10-16-2008, 08:22 PM
That quote kills me, my mind just kept thinking so many different things the moment she said that. OMG, whoever created this script is down rite dirty :lol:

Aloof
10-16-2008, 08:22 PM
:lol:

Didn't Oliver look HOT though? :p

MetroGirl06
10-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Yeah, she was brutal.

u go gurl :lol:

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 08:28 PM
:lol:

Didn't Oliver look HOT though? :p

Yes he did!!! :o

Did anyone else notice...he was in the sun a lot?? :lol:
When Tess first walks in and see's him...he's at her desk...with the sun shining in behind him. Just breath taking! Then when he's in bed.

It was a good idea..he looks good in the sunlight!! Or any light for that matter. :p

thedarknight
10-16-2008, 08:42 PM
I thought it was well played by her too. But also Oliver went to her AFTER he "found out" about Lois and Clark. He still got played but whatever, he's a guy after all.

Ginx
10-16-2008, 08:45 PM
I still kinda think Ollie is just trying to reconnect with Tess because 1) he feels a tad guilty about the past and 2) he wants to get more knowledge on Lex and what's going on with everything.... trying to get the inside track....... not the best way to go about it but he's a man on a mission.....

onebighottie
10-16-2008, 09:01 PM
I felt so bad for Ollie in this episode! First thinking Lois and Clark are getting married....then becoming Tess's booty call!! :confused:

For a split second I thought I saw a little humanity in Tess...but sleeping with Ollie just to "scratch an itch" and then saying "why dont you give that bracelet to your next waitress." She is cold!

But I cant lie...it made me like her more, she's pretty evil. ;)

Oh my god, mouth dropped when he slept with her! But I think he's using her to get to Luthor Crop. Could Olliver be the reason why Tess is the way she is? Maybe.... I'd like to learn more about their past together and what happened there.

dru-zod2501
10-16-2008, 09:06 PM
I got a dirty image when she said that. :D
yeah, him waking up in her bed wasn't direct enough;)

SnowBird
10-16-2008, 09:11 PM
Ollie's playing with fire and got burned. I see pay back on Tess' side. Ollie better say good bye for his own good.

pizzahead2490
10-16-2008, 09:13 PM
for some weird reason on known to me i am starting to like tess. so she had sex oliver cause she was horny and then dump his a@# right out of that castle. well he kind of deserve it he cheated on her, but i guess no matter how angry u are on a person when oliver walked in looking as hot as ever why woundnt she want to taste a little piece of the past.

green_arrow_girl358
10-16-2008, 09:14 PM
tess and ollie?!?! isn't he better than that? or do the characters not know she's lex's minion

Karafan1
10-16-2008, 09:24 PM
So Tess is baically a "hit and run" girl???

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 09:37 PM
tess and ollie?!?! isn't he better than that? or do the characters not know she's lex's minion

You know whats the creepiest part...I think they were in Lex's bed... :\
Or atleast one of the beds in his house.....sheesh...thats one way for Ollie to get back at Lex! :p

Aloof
10-16-2008, 09:39 PM
Ugh, Lex and Lana's bed? :lol:

Ginx
10-16-2008, 09:40 PM
I don't think it was Lex's bed. Tess has a little more class than to sleep in Lex's bed. It's a mansion I'm sure there are lots of rooms :)

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 09:41 PM
I don't think it was Lex's bed. Tess has a little more class than to sleep in Lex's bed. It's a mansion I'm sure there are lots of rooms :)

I would hope so....otherwise....thats just beyond creepy! :\:lol:

LovelyLoisLane
10-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.

Didn't PS3 say that Oliver would be reverting into his playboy days this season? That he was sort of questioning his life while Clark was embracing his?

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 09:43 PM
Was I the only one thought, what about Black Canary?!

number8
10-16-2008, 10:01 PM
Ouch man. Ollie's pained face was so sad :lol:

Mr.Magic
10-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Was I the only one thought, what about Black Canary?!

Not to worry. He cheats on Black Canary, too.

Liquid-Prince
10-16-2008, 10:06 PM
Not to worry. He cheats on Black Canary, too.

Yeah, that's true.

Ginx
10-16-2008, 10:08 PM
Not to worry. He cheats on Black Canary, too.

If you're not referring to a comic book reference then please put it in spoiler tags. Thank you.

LovelyLoisLane
10-16-2008, 10:09 PM
LOL no, he's referring to the comics. As far as I know no one has ever said anything about BC and GA getting together this season.

Ginx
10-16-2008, 10:10 PM
LOL no, he's referring to the comics. As far as I know no one has ever said anything about BC and GA getting together this season.

Just making sure. Thanks :)

j-kent
10-16-2008, 10:12 PM
It's blatantly obvious that Tess has strong feelings for Ollie...but she has so much beef from the past...that her bitter front is unyielding.

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 10:15 PM
It's blatantly obvious that Tess has strong feelings for Ollie...but she has so much beef from the past...that her bitter front is unyielding.

I think she does have feelings for Ollie....but she uses her bitterness to keep the distance between them. She's not the same girl she once was...and she wants Ollie to know that. He played her...so she played him...and got her "itch scratched." Just her way of saying "you dont hold the cards like last time...I do."

Which I know, makes me an evil evil women...but I loved how cold she was. Reminded me of Lex...but not in a creepy way! :lol:

Violet-Shadow
10-16-2008, 10:16 PM
I liked the Tollie scenes tonight...I'm sorry Tess and Oliver scenes. I refer to them as Tollie. Anyway, I think there was a flash of vulnerability on Tess' face in the "morning after" scene. I also think that Oliver still really cares about Tess, not that he's using her to discover anything about Lex. I'm not sure if Ollie cheating on her made her embrace the evil but it was, rather, a culmination of events. She watched her best friend get murdered...sometime later, Ollie cheats on her then leaves her. Bitterness is bred. Anyway, I loved their interaction. LOVED it!

LovelyLoisLane
10-16-2008, 10:28 PM
Tess actually seems hostile towards men in a dominating sort of way. Like she's had enough of being mistreated by them, and the only man she feels respect for now is Lex who is not the best role model, lets face it.

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 10:30 PM
Tess actually seems hostile towards men in a dominating sort of way. Like she's had enough of being mistreated by them, and the only man she feels respect for now is Lex who is not the best role model, lets face it.

Thats actually a very true statement. Didnt she tell the guy who abducted her (on the island) that she wanted to thank him because he was one of the men in her life that hurt her and taught her to fight. So yea...she does seem rather hostile towards men in general. Which could explain why ppl claim to see a lot of sexual tension between Tess and women...she's less threatend by them? :\

Yea...totally psychoanalyzed the crap out of that! :rotfl:

Ginx
10-16-2008, 10:31 PM
Tess actually seems hostile towards men in a dominating sort of way. Like she's had enough of being mistreated by them, and the only man she feels respect for now is Lex who is not the best role model, lets face it.

well, she did say that people wondered how she got to where she was. Maybe Lex gave her a chance and they have a trust. I think Ollie hurt her bad and she's not prepared to get hurt like that again. Hence, she's got her guard up and is all business. I think she slipped up that one time but she'll be even more guarded in the future.

pizzahead2490
10-16-2008, 10:33 PM
any 1 think that maybe tess is one of lex stalkers..... lol
nevermind. just wndering.

Aloof
10-16-2008, 10:34 PM
Oh! Another thing that Oliver mentioned that was interesting... In the beginning, he said something to Tess about Lex teaching her 'more' or something. I forgot the exact line, but he suspected that something 'more' was going on between them... I wonder...

LovelyLoisLane
10-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Thats actually a very true statement. Didnt she tell the guy who abducted her (on the island) that she wanted to thank him because he was one of the men in her life that hurt her and taught her to fight. So yea...she does seem rather hostile towards men in general. Which could explain why ppl claim to see a lot of sexual tension between Tess and women...she's less threatend by them? :\

Yea...totally psychoanalyzed the crap out of that! :rotfl:

Yeah she did tell him that and then what was it she said to Ollie tonight? Something about it not being revenging but that him hurting her just made her stronger?

I get the Teslo chemistry so I'm totally with you there. ;)
I do think maybe she does have more respect for women?

Lex being the only man in her life she feels she can count on also makes it that much more logical that she clings to that so much because she isn't willing to let the one man that she can trust, in her idea, be tainted.

number8
10-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Oh! Another thing that Oliver mentioned that was interesting... In the beginning, he said something to Tess about Lex teaching her 'more' or something. I forgot the exact line, but he suspected that something 'more' was going on between them... I wonder...

He said that he was wondering if Lex was more than just a mentor to Tess.

Maybe..

Aloof
10-16-2008, 10:39 PM
He said that he was wondering if Lex was more than just a mentor to Tess.

Maybe..

Ah yes, that's it.

Hmm, that definitely raises some questions. :/

AndiGirl
10-16-2008, 10:40 PM
He said that he was wondering if Lex was more than just a mentor to Tess.

Maybe..

I was curious about this also....maybe he was more then a mentor??
But then I thought maybe that was just Ollie's way of being crewl...kind of saying "We all know you slept your way to the top..." :\

borednow
10-16-2008, 10:40 PM
It was good to see Oliver and Lex work out some of that sexual tension.

Aloof
10-16-2008, 10:41 PM
It was good to see Oliver and Lex work out some of that sexual tension.

:lol:

Lex?

TECHWON
10-16-2008, 11:05 PM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.

YEAH I THINK THEY AREN'T DOING HIS CHARACTER JUSTICE I DUNNO

borednow
10-16-2008, 11:16 PM
:lol:

Lex?

Yes, Lex. *nods*

Aloof
10-16-2008, 11:18 PM
Hmmm, Tess could be secretly Lex in disguise! :eek:

borednow
10-16-2008, 11:23 PM
Exactly!

individuall
10-16-2008, 11:24 PM
Hmmm, Tess could be secretly Lex in disguise! :eek:

Poor Ollie!:rotfl:

Aloof
10-16-2008, 11:27 PM
:lol:

Is it me, or are a lot of people thinking that lately?

ginnyfan
10-16-2008, 11:49 PM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.

I felt that a little bit as well.

IF Oliver gifted Tess with the dress in "Instinct" it really cheapens his gift to Lois in "Wither." He seemed a bit sleezy to me in this episode.

Then again there were moments where I could see that he was truly hurt and/or genuine. I think Oliver is truly doing the best he can. He trying to be sincere but doesn't quite know how. But after Lois... his "game" is less charming.

Playboy gets played I guess.

I do think that this relationship with Oliver gives Tess more humanity and makes me like her more.

meteor
10-16-2008, 11:57 PM
Tess= serious b*tch:lol:..i like her character more and more with each passing episode.

JNottle
10-17-2008, 12:06 AM
Oliver was a little cold to Clark aswell, he took a jab at him.

The first scene of him and Tess was pretty decent, I loved the comment about her being more to Lex. :P

The other scenes where pretty good aswell, I'm curious if they're going to carry this on or wether he's going to ignore it from now on.

dru-zod2501
10-17-2008, 12:56 AM
yea I felt pretty bad for Ollie, gettin bounced by his rebound girl sucked, and after seeing them I'm even more convinced they deliberately try to play up Tess' feeling for women. The way they shot it was way different; for one thing I didn't see any of the "unnecessary but telling" close-ups on her face like they've used before.

Maybe it's that she's not that into guys now, or just Ollie that turns her off, i'm curious to see if my theory holds up

michaelcox
10-17-2008, 01:01 AM
This line reminded me of a Lois & Clark season 1 episode (in fact, I believe its the pilot). Lex tells a lady that. I'm guessing it was pulled from that episode to help us in TV land who connect it to further cement how much Tess is like Lex.

LCforever
10-17-2008, 01:32 AM
I don't think this is the end of Tess & Ollie. I think she has a little bit of vulnerability towards him and I think deep down she still has feelings towards him. Or else why have that short smile whenever she thinks about him?

I think she wants him but then there is some other reason why she can't fully give herself to him.

Needing back story here.

Side note: Oliver is such a doofus. He's so hot but he can't keep a girlfriend. Why doesn't he wise up and stay with the good ones? Oh well, he lost his chance with Lois but that's just fine with me because Lois is all for Clark anyway!!!

wolverine316
10-17-2008, 06:30 AM
I loved how Tess treated Ollie. He needs to be knocked down off his high horse.

lauraforever
10-17-2008, 06:31 AM
I loved the scene.

costas22
10-17-2008, 06:52 AM
I think their whole interaction in this episode reminded me of the episode Reunion.If you rememeber,at the end of that episode Lex and Ollie settled the old scores verbally and later by throwing punches at each other.Here they did that little joust and then they had them settle the old scores sexually.

smallvillefreak24
10-17-2008, 07:02 AM
I really didn't like tess this episode like the fighting scene with the sticks was like ..ok... and then they sort of started a tess/oliver thing and then she was like no im too ba idk but always love ollie

skylar
10-17-2008, 07:11 AM
Tess made Ollie feel like she cut he manhood off and handed to him so COLD!!!

redeem147
10-17-2008, 08:28 AM
I don't think Tess played him. I think the sex was very much the result of desire on both their parts. But he's hurt her before, and deep down she can't trust him. And when he tried to give her the bracelet, that put her over the edge. It was like he tried to buy her, whether that was his intention or not, and I think that's something he's done before with his 'ladies'.

It was a painful scene, and a good one.

Ilovebeinglost
10-17-2008, 08:45 AM
:lol:

Didn't Oliver look HOT though? :p


In the black trunks? wow, wow and wow :p:rolleyes::D:eek::eek::eek:

clarkbunny
10-17-2008, 08:49 AM
I was a bit unsure and a little surprised at the whole Tolivess link up. I kind of thought that Oliver was bigger than hooking up with his ex Tess especially as she is now the head of LuthorCorp. Although I think the hook up was mainly Oliver's knee-jerk reaction to the shock of hearing that one of his best/close friends was getting hitched to his ex-girlfriend/one that got away girl. That must have been a massive punch to the gut to hear that the way he did.

Tess probably does have feelings for Oliver but she didn't want to let him in so took the opportunity to get her revenge whilst 'scratching her itch' at the same time :lol:
It's a good thing as I think Oliver would only have let her down anyway, he was trying to rekindle the flame with Tess after seeing he had 'lost' Lois. Basically he was just feeling sorry for himself.

I guess they never made it to dinner then :p

Kal-alien
10-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Well, he did cheat on her. They're really starting to make Ollie look a bit... well... they're regressing his character.

Oliver queen is supposed to be somewhat of a player.

Sv.LoisLane
10-17-2008, 09:23 AM
This line reminded me of a Lois & Clark season 1 episode (in fact, I believe its the pilot). Lex tells a lady that. I'm guessing it was pulled from that episode to help us in TV land who connect it to further cement how much Tess is like Lex.

ITA! But..it's not the LnC pilot :D It's the 11th ep from season 1, "Pheromone, my lovely!"
And this wasn't the only line they "copied" in this episode. TMClark telling EDLois about the elevator that "it's still the safest way to travel" was a nice parallel to CRClark/Superman telling that about planes to MKLois.

Nuberman
10-17-2008, 09:25 AM
I don't mind their verbal interactions, but why the hell did they have to have a bow staff fight? I mean, to show how hard Tess is? Really? I was rolling my eyes the whole time.

LovelyLoisLane
10-17-2008, 09:27 AM
I felt that a little bit as well.

IF Oliver gifted Tess with the dress in "Instinct" it really cheapens his gift to Lois in "Wither." He seemed a bit sleezy to me in this episode.

Then again there were moments where I could see that he was truly hurt and/or genuine. I think Oliver is truly doing the best he can. He trying to be sincere but doesn't quite know how. But after Lois... his "game" is less charming.

Playboy gets played I guess.

I do think that this relationship with Oliver gives Tess more humanity and makes me like her more.


I'm a Lolliepopper so I'm more than willing to concede that I have some bias, but here is what I think.

It is Oliver's thing to try and win over the ladies with gifts and at first Lois wasn't any different. Though he did go one step further and get her a costume that matched with his own, which was nice. But I do think Lois was different and in "Justice" Oliver even told her that he'd never regretted leaving anything/anyone behind, until her. I believe that he meant that, up until that point.

Then in 'Siren' he wanted to try it again because he'd thought about Lois a lot since they split and that time it was Lois that decided it wouldn't work.

I think Lois made him want to be a better person, a person that could be there for her and he couldn't. So all he has is the Green Arrow, his alter ego to fall into and as just plain Oliver I think he is now looking back on things and the other women in his life, like Tess, that were left behind and wondering if maybe he can't make it right, because now after he lost Lois ' a moment that he knew even as it was happening that he'd regret for the rest of his life' and is getting over that he has moments where he might regret other things. Only problem with that is he is still trying to win women over the same way and it isn't working.

I do believe that he was genuinely in love with Lois and that she was the first woman he'd ever allowed himself to be truly in love with . I think they were on another's 'first love' and they are suppose to move on and grow from that relationship as most first loves do. I don't think that means that he didn't have women before her that he had feelings for. How strong those are? Well I don't think he's in love with Tess anymore than I'd believe she's in love with him, but I do think there are some lingering feelings there.

I'd prefer that it not become romantic too much because I like Tess and her cold villan-ess. I didn't think I would, but I do. I would like to see more of Oliver and Tess' antagonistic relationship however.

And to be honest, I'm not so sure it was really Oliver that sent that dress in 'Instinct'

MozartRequiem
10-17-2008, 09:38 AM
I don't know if anyone else thought this, but upon rewatching the episode, I get the feeling Tess's plan throughout this whole episode was to get Oliver in bed all along-knowing he still had romantic feelings for her-only to throw them back in his face. Her anger is understandable, but this kind of vengeance is very cold and shows how blackhearted she is. It reminds me of something I read in pyschology about the horrible serial killer Ted Bundy: there was once a woman that loved him but could not be with him because he was too unstable with his life...he came back, years later, completely stable and incredibly successful...she decided they could give their relationship another shot, she fell for him all over again, and just as they were to be wedded, he left without so much as a goodbye. That's what Tess's premeditated coldness reminded me of: although not on THAT scale, it still showed that she has the real capability to feign feelings of romance just to pull them back.

I also love that it's not all one-sided: Ollie's guilt in the whole matter is very intriguing and makes him more complex. I like that they continually show that he was no Saint in the past; it makes his present and future that much more inspirational to show how much he's turned himself around.

By the way, a question I had on the Ollie/Tess stuff tonight: when Oliver said, "Did Lex teach you about obsession? I hear his class in murder is great..." I though that was really darkly funny, but I also had to wonder: do you think Tess knows that Lex is a murderer? How much of Lex's past do you think she's in on? If not, what will be her reaction when she discovers it? Will she continue to blindly defend him? Will she ever figure out why Oliver hates him so much and that he's Green Arrow?

Sorry, maybe a bit off topic, but just some food for thought. ;)

27CDruid
10-17-2008, 09:38 AM
So Oliver gets some free xxx from Tess and he's been taught a lesson? Yeesh i wish the lessons ive learnt where that much fun!

Still really liking the few glimpses ive got of Tess. Evil women make interesting chracters. Exactly why Elle rocked in heroes.

Nuberman
10-17-2008, 11:27 AM
Doesn't anyone also think it's a possibility that Ollie may be trying to use his past relationship with Tess in order to further infiltrate Luthor Corp?

clarkbunny
10-17-2008, 11:30 AM
^
Quite possibly.

Ginx
10-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Doesn't anyone also think it's a possibility that Ollie may be trying to use his past relationship with Tess in order to further infiltrate Luthor Corp?

I did mention something along those lines back closer to the first page lol. I hate to say it but it seems that both of them have another agenda. Sure Ollie is confused about what he wants to do but part of me thinks he's trying to get answers about Luthor Corp and Tess' role.

Balthaazar32
10-17-2008, 12:18 PM
Tess is my kind of woman! :lol:

Iluvgreen
10-17-2008, 12:49 PM
My theroy is that hes trying to bring her back. So at the time when he almost broke through, so showed him that it wasn't that easy. shes not the girl who is gonna let hersefl be vunerable, and i think thats very interesting. i love these guys together. i was screaming. my sisters hate tess so they weren't so thrillered. and they hated her even more for saying, "i had an itch and you scratched it." They dont understand. tisk tisk.

Saber
10-17-2008, 02:06 PM
So Oliver gets some free xxx from Tess and he's been taught a lesson? Yeesh i wish the lessons ive learnt where that much fun!



Yeah, I kind of agree. I know it’s a double standard but when Lex used women by having sex with them you kind of felt more for them, like something was taken away from them.
Ollie got used and well I bet that lesson didn’t really go to his heart but his head (and you can read that figuratively or literally).

abbaspice1
10-17-2008, 04:28 PM
This episode made my respect for Oliver to drop just a tad.

First, he goes to the office and discuss the fact that LexCorp brought something that his company was interested in...brought it right under Oliver's nose. Then he makes that comment about Lex being more than a mentor to Tess...like that is any of his business.

Then he runs into Clark and Lois. I thought the scene was ROTFLOL.

But then the episode shows him with Tess again. And she wants an explanation to why he cheated on her. Then he sleeps with her, thinks everything is okay-dokey (without giving her an explanation) and tries to hand her a diamond bracelet (just wondering if he would have given that to her if they DIDN'T sleep together)?

I know from the comics that the Green Arrow is a male-slut. I can accept that. But now, I'm wondering if he slept with Tess because of the whole Lex angle. LexCorp stole a business from him, Tess is more obsessed with Lex than with him, he slept with Tess in the Lex Mansion.

It just doesn't look good.

Superman's Girl
10-17-2008, 07:08 PM
All I want to say is that Justin's lips....oh heck all of Justin's face looked hot in that kissing scene when Tess had him pinned to the wall...yummy!!!:D

malft
10-17-2008, 07:49 PM
Ollie Shot and scored. He got to scratch an itch and leave without buying dinner and HE made her think SHE was on top. My Man!

Meteror Freak
10-17-2008, 08:06 PM
I think Tess slept with Oliver not to get revenge but because there's still a little good in her and Oliver brings that out in her. But the next morning she came back to her senses and her darker side flashed.

nk_84
10-17-2008, 08:38 PM
I felt so bad for Ollie in this episode! First thinking Lois and Clark are getting married....then becoming Tess's booty call!! :confused:

For a split second I thought I saw a little humanity in Tess...but sleeping with Ollie just to "scratch an itch" and then saying "why dont you give that bracelet to your next waitress." She is cold!

But I cant lie...it made me like her more, she's pretty evil. ;)

It's just to give you an idea that she's different than how Ollie remembered her.

She's changed and she's a *****!!

pizzahead2490
10-17-2008, 09:18 PM
no, tess slept with ollie cuz she was horny, hence the itch part.

old guy
10-18-2008, 06:58 PM
When Tess made her "I had an itch; you scratched it" statement, I thought she really seemed to have a resentment towards men. She reminded me of Ursa (from Superman 2). Ursa respected and worshipped General Zod (similar as Tess seems to feel for Lex), but Ursa seemed to feel nothing but contempt for all other men.

I don't know, it just struck me that there seemed to be a similarity in the Ursa/Zod relationship as there is in the Tess/Lex relationship. Her cold treatment of Ollie just gave me that feeling.

KelterDai
10-18-2008, 10:59 PM
I actually like Tess/Oliver and hope to see more of them soon.

wickedwango
10-19-2008, 04:23 AM
Just a quick q....

what were Tess and Ollie talking about? something that happened offscreensville?
because I got no idea...:confused:

Clana Kent
10-19-2008, 04:29 AM
They obviously made out, but that wasn't filmed.:p

I kinda like this relationship, I like the Tess-character.

Liked the quote "I had an itch and you scratched it"!:lol:

Humdinger
10-19-2008, 11:03 AM
You're not the only one who's confused. I missed most of the third ep because my cable was acting up, but I thought there was a lot that needed explaining, too. Maybe it will be done in another ep.

loliverlover
10-19-2008, 12:00 PM
well it's implied that years ago they had a relationship until ollie cheated on tess and left her, but i think things will start to become clearer later in the season as i expect they still interact with each other in further episodes and talk about their past

oldblackmagick
10-19-2008, 12:30 PM
i didn't think that ollie cheated just that he left her ala Lois in the season 6 justice ep.

Spirit Detective
10-19-2008, 04:25 PM
I think Tess was Lex's mistress whenever he needed a "bootycall".

ShelbyKent
10-19-2008, 04:59 PM
I don't think Ollie slept with Tess because he was depressed by the Clois. (if ever Ollie was probably jealous of clois finding their happiness/true love, whereas he was still clueless and alone) I think Ollie wanted to reconnect with Tess eversince Toxic.

To me Tess/Ollie parallels to Clark/Lana. Ollie wants to recapture that relationship and that time which was such a powerful moment for him; Tess and Ollie shared such a powerful experience being captured in that island and that experience also played a huge part in the evolution of the Green Arrow, the experience that gave spoiled playboy Ollie a purpose in life.

Currently, Ollie is starting to "lose his way" again, I think he wants to reconnect with Tess, because maybe he thinks that would jumpstart his life again. Maybe he thinks the relationship could "save him" ("Somebody saaaaaave meeeee!!!!!")

Unfortunately for Ollie, the "Old Tess" (or "Mercy" as he fondly calls her), is GONE; or as Tess put it. "She grew-up".

Ollie is holding on to the nostaligia, strong emotion/memories that he associates with Tess; but it's NEVER going to work because he and Tess have grown up to be 2 people who are so different from that couple that escaped the Island.

I think something similar will happen to clana in the upcoming eppies. Clana will try to reconnect, moved by the nostalgia evoked by memories of their old relationship. But maybe Clark and Lana would realize they are already so far removed from who they were 5-8 years ago. (they have different life priorities now etc).

Just my 2 cents :)

Welling_is_pretty
10-19-2008, 08:09 PM
I know from the comics that the Green Arrow is a male-slut. I can accept that.
See, this is something I don't think a lot of fans know. I mean, ok, Ollie and Dinah have long been a couple in the comics but Ollie's always had a 'roving eye' for the ladies (he even had a kid with another woman, for crying out loud!), so him hopping into bed with Tess? Not a big shock. Him cheating on her? Also not a big shock.

This is why I'm not a big fan of GA in the comics. He's, well, kinda a jerk. (IMO, anyway. I know a lot of people like him.) Let's face it, the only guy in the DCU who gets more girls is Dick Grayson (the King of the DCU when it comes to romance).

Mr.Magic
10-19-2008, 08:29 PM
Dick Grayson is the king of romance? Aww, heck no! Clark Kent is the king of romance. Dick is the king of booty.

ps: After finding out that he cheated on Kory with Babs*, I lost all respect for him. It was bad before, when one had to wonder if there were two different Graysons in Outsiders and Nightwing.

*VERY stupid retcon IMHO

oqllcksmallville
10-19-2008, 08:51 PM
:lol:

Didn't Oliver look HOT though? :p
yeup !
he's a hotter man ! ; )
- i felt so bad for Ollie .
why was he acting so desperate though ?
.. hopefully they leave the heartbreak at that , end it , and progress him in other ways .

Welling_is_pretty
10-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Dick Grayson is the king of romance? Aww, heck no! Clark Kent is the king of romance. Dick is the king of booty.

ps: After finding out that he cheated on Kory with Babs*, I lost all respect for him. It was bad before, when one had to wonder if there were two different Graysons in Outsiders and Nightwing.

*VERY stupid retcon IMHO
I always thought Dick was fairly romantic, myself, but yeah, he's the King of Booty too! (and I'm guessing the cheating thing is a recent retcon? I haven't read a DC comic in some time. I dropped DC after Infinite Crisis. Just couldn't take it anymore.)

Darkside
10-19-2008, 10:47 PM
Ollie has nothing on Bruce when it comes to women.

shamville
10-20-2008, 07:18 AM
Why ollie wasn't at chloe and jimmy party?

cklookalike89
10-20-2008, 09:49 AM
I felt really bad for ollie when tess said that. He was tryign to make up for his mistake and she basically smacked him in the face. That ***** is cold