Loved it? Hated it? What did you think?

[DontCha]

Achloechick. I agree with you when you say the resolve of Chlark could have been done better, I said that in the chlark thread straight away when it happened

[WickedJenn]

A reminder everyone, per rule #1 please do not discuss other messageboards on here.

Thank you.

[Dar'el]

hello I'm the other brother Dar'el, Jor'el didn't talk to me much, anyways, before I get to htis episode, why is it that there are so manyy fans who (like me) own all 7 seasons, hve watched every episode on original airdate, and (unlike me) complain about everything on the show, from story arcs, to couples, to too much Kryptonite??? anyways, as far as comitted went. WOW this wasn't an episode of smallville it was a pre-cursur to superman. the comedy early on, was fantastic, Ollie and Mercy(do they have a Bennifer-esquename yet) so Olliemerc have great chemistry and definatly want to see more, Jimmycloie, beating the test was magical(love wehen they return to bed and think the badguy left the cuffs) clark and lois, this is why I watch this show, breaking down into tears as she says yes, Clark going along with the "lie" and of course, the writers, producers, directer,s whoevers, endorsement of Tom Welling For Superman, in that one Immortal line, "Statistically speaking this is the safer way to travel" a single tear rolls down my cheek. Best episode of the season so far I give it a 11. thanks for listening

[SueB]

is more supportive of Clois

Others have simply left the on-line fandom (see K-site poll results comparison year to year). Seriously, how many converts have you seen?

[KSiteTV]

Please re-read the board rules about talking about fans and the fandom on the boards. I know there are differing opinions on which boards have or do not have bias, but that's not the topic of this thread - the topic is whether or not you liked this week's episode.

I'd like to thank Mr. Winter for coming in and posting here. You do great work. :)

[Timester]

I have to admit even now, I still love this episode. It wasn't perfect, but Clark was amazing in it. I am adoring Clark this season. So much less moping and more heroics and fun.

This. Everything else is pointless, IMO.

Let me expand on "everything else". I meant that Clark should always be the main focus, even when the episode is not about him, which was the case this week. Even the shipping was mature, not a common thing on Smallville.

[supes0]

This. Everything else is pointless, IMO.

Let me expand on "everything else". I meant that Clark should always be the main focus, even when the episode is not about him, which was the case this week. Even the shipping was mature, not a common thing on Smallville.

What Timester said.

Clark was the focus. He was smart, mature and funny. He didn't bemoan his fate. He seemed comfortable in his skin, happy to be alive.

Agreed, shipping was mature, no teenage angst to be seen.

I gave it a 9.

[HeartChakraBabe]

Hated "Committed". Period.

[luvinChlark]

Commited was made of all kinds of wrong. Was just terrible...

[ClLaLeChFAN01]

This episode is great! I enjoyed watching it over and over and over and over again! I'm glad that we got to know Jimmy more this episode. The Oliver and Tess scenes was fantastic!

Even though a couple things did bother my like the braclet- why didnt Clark just escape when the guy walked away? Was it because Lois was there and decide to play the guy's crazy game of truth, or was he still weakened when the guy walked away? I know he tried to break free but wasnt the guy far enough away for Clark to escape?

And there as something else that I cant remember!

The Lois and Clark scenes were magic!
ANd didnt anyone notice that Clark is brushing his bangs back....Oh he looks sooooo good!!!!!

[Hopefulsuicide]

wow, i'm actually surprised that so many people disliked the episode, i thought it was most definately the best since... well since mid season 7

i thought every single Clois moment had a lot of chemistry. the episode has lead me to finally class Lois and Clark on Smallville as my second fave interpretation (second to LnC), and it was the kind of storyline that i would have loved to have seen on LnC.

Lois drunk and Clark looking after her, Lois being the high maintenance one and Clark telling her to tone it down, it all made me smile so much.

Lois' tangible fear at admitting her feelings was very well portrayed, and i thought it was sweet that in the elevator scene after Clark sort of gave her an out. I mean i screamed when we were cheated out of Clark's answer, but i think it was really well done.

The Tess/Ollie scenes were okay. I mean i don't feel the chemistry but as far as giving Oliver something to do that doesn't over shadow Clark, it's not a bad plot. And having their stories so connected should hopefully lead to some good plots in the future.

The Chimmy scenes didn't have me convinced but that's because i refuse to accept that a persons feelings that were as strong as Chloe's can be completely gone.

Anyway i gave it a 9, because it was the first episode in ages that i wanted to watch again straight away, and i didnt want to skip any scene because they were all enjoyable!

[La Donna]

Dismayed beyond belief. They had to strap the characters to a lie detector because they couldn't write believable dialog to explain the lightswitch.

And now Lois -- whose only redeeming quality was to risk her life for her cousin --- it's incredibly selfish with her "old maid" pity party and trashes the groom on Chloe's special night.

And now she's also pining for Clark. This is not a strong woman, she's a disaster in too-tight clothes.



It speaks to the site's demographics. Look at ALL the polls, the vast majority of fans posting are Lois and Clois in every single poll. Of course this episode plays well to that crowd.


Actually, I've visited two or three other smallville forums and all of them overwhelmingly liked this episode, and not just the Clois fans. One fan site did not, but that site is sort of set up for those who wish to discuss the negative aspects of a show and the negative emotion it causes. It needn't be named.

[STFanatic]

I want more Shelby shipping ;)

Is Shelby the only dog in town?

[Hopefulsuicide]

i think i'd agree with SueB if they had gotten together straight after that episode... but that's not what's going to happen

i mean, if you look at LnC, which was entirely about the progression of their relationship, you can compare episodes

pheremone my lovely = crimson (love potion causes lois to fall for clark)

i've got a crush on you = instinct (catching him kissing another women, and then rambling to herself that she doesn't care)

look at committed... it's got a bit of honeymoon in metropolis (posing as a married couple/engaged couple, clark even calls her pumpkin), and a bit of strange visitor (lois put under a lie detector and asked if she has feelings for superman)

but none of those moments, on either show, have been the lead into the relationship

i still hope that when we see REAL clois, instead of hinted, draped in denial clois, it will be done with a lot more care than a lie detector

[SparkleforSmallville]

I want more Shelby shipping ;)

Is Shelby the only dog in town?

:lol: Yeah, where are all the other dogs? Tess needs a cat!;)

[STFanatic]

I can just see Tess sitting at Lex's desk with a big white cat like "Dr. Evil" :lol:

[SparkleforSmallville]

I can just see Tess sitting at Lex's desk with a big white cat like "Dr. Evil" :lol:

Purrfect:)

[rosasc]

I loved Committed!!!!!

Clois perfect!!!!!

Lois perfect!!!!!!

Clark perfect!!!!

I am so happy!!!!


Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic!!!!

10!!!!!!!!!!

[baudyhallee]

I give it a beyond 10.

Mr. Winter gave us so many good perspectives. I especially like the shot from Clark's point of view when he was unconscious and started to regain consciousness because Lois was talking to him. Great storytelling.

There was everything in this episode and it was all handled marvelously. The acting and cinematography were exceptional. Everyone was on their A game. Loved the musical score too.

A lot of us have been waiting for an episode like this for a long, long time. Clark being the man he's supposed to be.

[KelterDai]

Overwhelmingly people LOVE this episode. [MOD EDIT] Clois or not, this episode was NO WHERE near the worst we have seen on SV. The refreshing CINEMATIC aspects of the episode alone made it surpass many other Smallville episodes.

Thanks Glen for stopping by.

[shelley87]

Committed rated a 10 in my books! The episode was fun. Pure Clark and Lois at their best. I'm really enjoying season 8. This new direction is fabulous :D

Shelley87

[Rapierhomme]

I must say that this season has been one of the best so far. I look forward to seeing where TPTB go with the whole Lois/Clark dynamic. From what I've seen, it seems to be following along the lines of the comics, and I for one am glad. I hope things will continue in this same vein. This episode was a huge step, not only in the relationship between Lois and Clark, but in showing Clark's maturity and his evolution into the hero he one day will be.

[KSiteTV]

For the last time, how many times must it be reminded to not talk about the fans or the fan base in this thread?

If it continues to happen, warnings and bannings will happen, and I will be forced to close this thread. Cut it out, please.

[La Donna]

Sorry!!

I just thought of something else I really liked about this episode. Chloe was so adorable when she was talking about where they could go on their honeymoon! I mean, she was cute the whole episode, but just her face lighting up and her smile when she was suggesting different places and showing them on the screen behind her. I loved it. And of course, the Chloe-Lois scenes. They are so great together, I wish there were more scenes between those two. They really seem like cousins to me. I also feel like Chloe knows Lois better than anyone else on the show, so it's nice to get Chloe's explanations about Lois's behavior and actions.

Oh ya, also Jimmy trying to bust his chains when Chloe was being tortured. That was so great! All four of those actors did exceptional in the torture scenes.

[Jade4813]

I fully enjoyed this episode! In fact, it was so great that I had to show it to my mom, who swore off Smallville several seasons ago, and even she laughed out loud at parts. It was amusing and dramatic. It didn't take place in just two or three settings. Chlo-Lo was back, which was nice to see, Clark was proactive...I loved it!

I'm still not feeling the Chimmy really, but in general, I found it better in this episode than I have in some in the past.

It's a fact of life that, with anything, some people will loathe it and some people will love it. I'm definitely in the latter group! This is a Smallville I've been waiting to see, a Lois I love (though I didn't really enjoy that toast, personally), and a Clark Kent I can't help falling in love with all over again week after week!

Well done! :D

[geminis]

Committed was one of the first episodes in a very, very, long time to make my sister actually sit down and watch the whole thing from beginning to end. This was a big step for her, and I'm very proud. *wipes a tear away happily* Usually she automatically has to hate what I love. May I say solid 18+ from both of us?! Because a ten is too low!

[Kalista]

This episode was terrible. If they have to resort to psychotic jewelers to get people to confess their deep and abiding love for one another, then something is wrong. That means, we haven't seen enough development in the relationship in previous episodes to lead most viewers to conclude that lois loves Clark.

[Ginx]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

Super cool. Glad you stopped by :) I enjoyed the episode a lot.

[SolaceDream]

Total 10 for me. The only problem I had was with the krypto bracelet, but that I can overlook in favor of everything else. It made me like Chimmy again, reminded me that I used to love Chloe, gave huge points for Tess, and confirmed my love for Lois, Clark, and Oliver. Definitely one of my favorite episodes, hands down.

[nzs]

I found "Committed" to be quite contrived and I rated it accordingly. A psychotic jeweler? Really? It's more of tell the audience, don't show the audience.

In "Odyssey", Clark and Edlo barely acknowledge each other. In "Toxic" Edlo cries over Oliver and reconsiders their breakup. *lightswitch* In "Instinct" she's making sexual innuendos and googly eyes at Clark while treating him like sh!t. *lightswitch* Edlo is crying because she has to admit her feelings while strapped to a lie detector. Sorry, I don't buy it. I don't care what the mythos says. That is not credible progression. That is Lightswitchville. YMMV.

As for Chloe, I'm going to assume that Brainiac is influencing her and that's why she's so OOC.

[luvck]

I gave this episode a 10 because it was that good. To be honest, I actually have enjoyed this season better than I have any other season, but that is off topic I suppose.
This episode was fun and refreshing. My whole family enjoyed it and we have watched it several times trying to find clues or hints to how Clark feels towards Lois. My husband is back to watching the show now that Clark has officially declared to 'Let It Go'. We have been discussing this episode for days and can't wait for the furture ones to come. The chemistry between Lois and Clark is beyond amazing. We laughed and I of course cried. It was a wonderful episode and I hope that we get more of this in the future. This is the vibe that Smallville needs. It was an A+ in this household. So thank you for making a long time fan happy. :)

[marikology]

I hated it. I hate Pod!Chloe. I hate Chimmy. I hate all the out-of-character behavior.

Chloe has only been in love with Jimmy. I call BS. I've seen the last seven years of the show, thanks.

Lois reluctantly admits she loves Clark. Except that she's never had trouble going after what she wants or saying how she feels before. And that she's never shown to be attracted to Clark or guys like him, EVER.

Not that I care about what the lie detector said, but I'm conforted by the fact that it proved nothing. Lois cheated on Clark? When? Jimmy doesn't think he cheated, but he did, but the machine thinks he did? Yeah.

Psychotic jeweler? With a kryptonite watch? So. Dumb.

Ollie/Tess is boring. I thought Ollie was a role model for Clark, now he's chasing after evil, crazy Tess. (But I didn't mind Nekkid!Ollie.)

Poor Clark. He really doesn't want to work with Lois.

Lois in the football jersey. Chlark did it first and better. (And for the record, Chloe was in Clark's practice jersey, Lois was in his Luthor-bought game jersey.)

Jimmy is not just a cheater now, he's a liar too. But Pod!Chloe just smiles serenely. SO MUCH HATE.

And because I need to say it again- I HATE CHIMMY.

[rtm321]

I gave this one a 5 which was 150% better than the previous episode. The acting was improved from last week across the board, and there was more humor than there has been on the show in a long time. But it ranked only a five because it relied on a contrived plot device in the form of the lie detector to establish what four years of characterization has failed to do – that Lois loves Clark, and to negate seven years of the growth of Clark’s and Chloe’s relationship. I also felt that the show missed the mark with the villain and the torture. Chloe answered a couple of questions and they were free to go. There was no depth to the questions, really. How much more interesting would it have been to see how much torture Chloe would have been willing to let Jimmy endure before she gave up Clark’s secret. That would have created some inner turmoil for Chloe – a missed opportunity in my opinion.

[lillie_poo_pod]

I didn't like this episode. It was contrived. Really contrived.

This is yet another episode where instead of the writers actually showing the audience why Clois is so "meant to be" they bring on a guest actor to say that they have this amazing bond or so attracted to each other. Same goes with the Chimmy. If it takes a guest actor to come on the show raving about how so good so and so are for each other, than its just lazy writing.

I'm not sure how I feel about the Tess and Oliver thing. It was interesting at first, but I just don't want it to turn into some soap opera crap.

That's pretty much all I have to say about this episode. So happy that Prey is Lois-less.

[hanemg]

(And for the record, Chloe was in Clark's practice jersey, Lois was in his Luthor-bought game jersey.)

I started to ask why this distinction was important, but then I started to think about the symbolism. Chloe was in the "practice" jersey while Lois was in the "official" regular game jersey. I wonder if TPTB were implying something there? :lol:

[marikology]

I started to ask why this distinction was important, but then I started to think about the symbolism. Chloe was in the "practice" jersey while Lois was in the "official" regular game jersey. I wonder if TPTB were implying something there? :lol:


Maybe that Lois (and Clark) are right at home in the middle of Luthor corruption? Or that Clark gave it to her because Lex bought it for him and he hates Lex now, so he probably doesn't care that much about it.

[silverdragon]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW


this episode totally rocked...in fact this whole season so far has been fantastic...love that they finally pushing clark towards his destiny...

the cast was brilliant as usual...especially tom and erica...

[hanemg]

Maybe that Lois (and Clark) are right at home in the middle of Luthor corruption? Or that Clark gave it to her because Lex bought it for him and he hates Lex now, so he probably doesn't care that much about it.

Or it could be the last thing Lex ever gave him while they were still friends so he thinks of it as special. Or it could be simply a momento from when he finally fulfilled a dream that he had held since childhood and that's why it's special having nothing at all to do with who bought it. Who knows?

I am curious about the "Luthor corruption" comment though. Do you mean the Daily Planet? Why would you think it was any more or less corrupt now than it was before? It seems to me that Luthors have always held influence if not complete power there for years. Lionel got Perry fired from there and he was able to force them to first hire Chloe and then to fire her. With all that having happened in the past I would think that with Lex missing in action that the DP is probably more free of corruption now than it ever has been.

[Fallen One]

I started to ask why this distinction was important, but then I started to think about the symbolism. Chloe was in the "practice" jersey while Lois was in the "official" regular game jersey. I wonder if TPTB were implying something there? :lol:

Not only was it his regular game jersey, it was his State Championship jersey.

Chloe stole his practice jersey, Clark gave Lois his Championship jersey.

I'm sure there is no symbolism intended there.:lol:

[Genevieve]

It was all right. I gave it a 5. I cannot stand Chimmy and lobotomized!Chloe. I want Real!Chloe to return, and get rid of the excess baggage she's carrying around known as Jimmy Olsen. I really wanted to smack Oliver in this episode too, and I usually love him.

[tariksam]

Not only that was it was regular game jersey, it was his State Championship jersey.

Chloe stole his practice jersey, Clark gave Lois his Championship jersey.

I'm sure there is no symbolism intended there.:lol:

BURN!!! lol awesoem Chloe was the practice (well...better not going there)...Lois is the Champion naner naner?:rotfl:

[ShelbyKent]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

GREAT to hear from you! Committed was such a well-put together & entertaining episode for several reasons:

1. Good pacing and editing. The story flowed very well and didn't drag eventhough it dealt with a lot of emotional scenes.

2. CLARK is acting more and more like the destined superhero that we know and love. No more moping, whining or brooding :) I look forward to seeing more of this newly confident Clark Kent :)

3. Hooray for CONTINUITY! It's fantastic that this eppie actually made references to events in past eppies. (examples: reference to "Whitesnake", Clark's #8 championship jersey, Lois crashing Lexana's engagement party etc).

4. The WITTY DIALOGUE. This one of the FUNNIEST episodes ever. Great lines for all the characters

5. LOIS & CLARK teamwork. Love seeing the development of "The Hottest Team in Town"
Great dialogue and banter :) I'm glad the Erica Durance is in more more episodes this season so we would get more Lois and Clark

6. SUPERMAN references galore! "Statistically the safest way to travel' and strings from the "Superman Theme" being played while Lois and Clark were in the elevator.

7. YAY for non-combative CHLO-LO scenes. Glad to see more screentime for the cousins :)

8. Good character development for Ollie and Tess: I like the way that these characters are being developed. They don't take up so much time away from Clark Kent, but their storylines are still well thought out.

Please keep up the good work and THANK YOU for such a WONDERFUL episode :D

[amberdawn]

I gave it a 10. The Clois fan in me loved it.

[Sue Denim]

There were problems with the script, that's not necessarily a director's fault. My biggest issue is the refitting of Chloe-isms over Lois Lane. I simply do not by this Clois. I have issues with both Clark and Lois, but for "Committed" I am forced to look at Lois Lane. Why is that she's immediately thinks that she slept with Clark? Is this a habitual habit for her when she drinks that much to sleep with the guy that takes her home? Why have her drink to the point of puking even? I hate that. If Lois Lane is Lois Lane, she needs to have professional behavior, this is not good. And in fairness, Clark also gets a big fat fail on this front too. BOO Clois.

Now, I would be upset with Lois in Clark's football jersey, if it weren't a hint to the better relationship on the show. The fact that Clois comes across as recycled Chlark, makes me believe that writers will still pull out a Chlark end.

Again, I blame the writers of these things, because an episode such as Apocalypse suggests that Lois Lane can be written to be smart and witty, and Erica Durance is up to play the role. It can be done without the Chloe-isms and Chlark hallmarks stitched into it. So boo writers, just boo!

[Superman_Beyond]

I loved the episode too. Instinct and Committed are two of my favorite episodes so far of the season.

[La Donna]

I've watched this episode three times already, and I almost never re-watch episodes of anything. It's still just as good, each time. And really, the acting is just superb.
That bracelet thing is a little bit ridiculous, though. I didn't even think about it the first time, but upon return viewing I notice it more.

[tariksam]

Since when Lois lane Is Mother Theresa....and since when her PERSONAL life has to do with whatever she does on her work? her getting drunk (for whatever reason) doesn't determinate what kind of reporter she is.

Don't compare the jersey scene with the Chlark one...is in no way the same nor recycled *pukes* cause Lois wasn't throwing herself to Clark...how is the "professional" one now?

[sunflowercyn]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to read what fans thought about COMMITTED.

My friends and I have watched it so many times now that I think we have all lost count. It was well written and *pat yourself on the back* well directed.;) Tom and Erica...are really in sync as Clark and Lois and I don't know whether to smirk, laugh or pinch myself when I see watch their scenes. Alison and Aaron did a fantastic job as well.

What I really liked about COMMITTED is it was full of comedic twists as well as emotional twists which I bet was a challenge for you.

Thank you and the rest of the Smallville team for so far making season 8 SO GOOD! The first 5 episodes you guys have hit out of the park so I am enjoying sitting back to see what else you have in store:cool:

[Kal-ed]

Hate it!

In the episode Committed, if you look at ths scene Lois was looking right at Clark. Right at him. Then he used his heat vision and used his Super-strength right in front of him.

What was Lois thinking about? Her confession.

So all this talk of chasing after the mystery man, chasing a man in tights is just to me dumb when Lois saw. Go ahead and screen cap it. Lois was watching Clark the whole time.

I am going to shout because well:

SHE SAW HIM SHOOT BEAMS FROM HIS EYES!!
SHE SAW HIM GET OUT THE CHAIR!!!
Not to mention: MAKING SURE TO GET THE BRACELET OFF THE ABDUCTOR!!!

I can't believe it. And the show just lets it slide.
So instead of Lois Lane, intrepid reporter, we get a moony eyed, crushing hard, young woman that is claimed to be a 'reporting goddess' and seeing the most spectacular heroics in front of her and it is ignored.
Then in the elevator Lois was the one that was totally nervous.

Clark should have been sweating!!! He used his powers in front of Lois. Instead he was smug and arrogant. (It helps of have the writers on your side to forget major details like Lois watching him use his powers.)

Then Clark believing her that she slipped off the sensor?
He was watching her too. A man, a villain that could read the detector would know if she slipped off the sensor. Would have shocked the crap out of her for that. Especially on such an important question.

One that Lois tease him about. Only to have Clark look confused. Why? That made no sense for someone that, as Cloiser's insist is destined to be with. If he actually has a bond with Lois and actually loves her why would he confused as to his situation if he was the one to confess?

Where would he be?
From Lois's barely veiled lusting, it was clear from her point of view, that they would be in her bed. A little tacky, but well that is Lois. That is where Clark would be if from Lois's words and suggestion.

Back to the point. Lois saw him use his powers. The situation was ignored and Lois's reputation as a hard hitting journalist actually takes a hit.

~Rockgod30

The heat beams have never been visible to people, she couldnt see him get out of the chair cause there was steam all over the place, as for the rest its called suspence of belief, very necesary when watching sci fi shows. I mean its not like Chloe´s hacking makes any sense. Where were this complains in the 4 years Clark save Chloe sometimes in situations she should have known something was off and it never happened?? Although I wouldnt worry too much, Lois Lane being completely clueless when it comes to Clark´s secret identity is pretty much the norm, in comics, cartoons, tv shows, movies, you name it.

You know (general you) its a shame, I dont mind that people dont like Clois or hate it but the fact that based on ship preferences people dislike entire episodes, that´s a damn shame, Clark is finally on full superhero mode and people wont even grant that to TPTB cause their ship is dead. I watched a Clana filled show for 7 years and I still took the good in with the bad, Hidden was disturbingly Clanaish but I liked it cause Clark behaved heroically (sp), it really is a shame that just because a ship didnt pan out they abandon SV, just when in general the quality is going up.

[Scrios]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW
Can I just say, I am wowed that you graced us with your presence. I haven't posted here before, but I joined Ksite to show appreciation.

I loved this episode, it was fantabulous!

I am loving the season, it is so refreshing and even a bit different.

All the characters and their elements are brimming with newness. They even look better, I can't believe it.

Erica with her Darker hair and softer make-up. She looks
more beautiful this season with such little effort. Tom looks more grown up, and his wardrobe is professional, I can not pinpoint why, but he definitely is looking more gorgeous this season than in the past. Even Allison, in the torture scene looked marvelous (how you can make an actress look more beautiful when being tortured, I do not know).

Some say it is the lighting, others the color and or decor. Perhaps the wardrobe, make up or even just the appealing changes in the individuals Characters are bringing out the best in them. Whatever it is, keep up the great work. It is much appreciated.

I love the direction this season is taking. Clark Kent is acting more mature, not moping about everything, and wanting to make a difference without running away. He's more confident and showing his brain. Thank goodness that Clark Kent is proving that he is the Intelligent Super-human that Superman is proven to be (the ability to think for himself). It is just astounding.

I have not read all other posts, and I hope there isn't a war going on, because I can imagine you not wanting to return if that happens. *sigh*

I'd been hesitant to post here in the past (I'm a bit passive-aggressive, and when people say mean things my feelings get hurt too easily {which is why I stay mostly at DI} )

I only hope that you've had a decent experience here. The fact that you took time out of your busy schedule to bring such an emphatic response to fans of the show is a blessing.

Committed was by far my favorite episode of Smallville so far, and I have been loving Superman throughout my childhood to this day.

Smallville's Lois and Clark are my favorite rendition of the pair to date. I'm so happy to have been able to mention this, and hope that, if nothing else, you are able to read that and believe it because it is true.

Thank you for visiting.
and I hope you felt appreciated.

[individuall]

Welcome Scrios :D

Again I can't reiterate this enough..LOVED this eppy... I haven't been this excited about an SV episode/season in a LONG time. Thanks again for stopping by Glen :)

[ginnyfan]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

Thank you! You got stellar performances out of everyone. Great job on the suspenseful moments. :D

[Kal-ed]

I completely disagree --- read all the polls --- very pro-Lois/Clois.

maybe its cause the general auidences like Clois, people who arent in it only for the ships like the direction Clark is taking and dont mind or even like Clois.

Werent you the one predicting falling raitings when they have actually (although slowly) increased, I apologyze if Im making the wrong asumption but based on your posts, it would seem you would actually be happy if raitings went down, to support some Clois=bad raitings theory; I know it would help your point if this site was indeed Clois biased but the truth is there´s a wide range of fan bases (not 2 months ago, chlarkers were the biggest fan base in Ksite) still Craig, unlike other sites, has managed to keep things in check and allow everyone to have an equal voice, hence why from all the sites, this is indeed the most diverse and leveled out, out there.

ETA: just last season Chlark and Chloe were winning the polls in this site, so is it the site or the changing reactions, from the non shipper audiences based on what´s being shown??

[quistis]

i gave this episode a 10.

[Fallen One]

The episode just makes you feel good as a Smallville fan.

Its positive, its witty, with very little angst. It gives you the best of what Smallville has to offer. Endearing characters, good comedy, exciting sci-fi action, thought-provoking drama, relationships, and with some camp thrown in to boot. Most of all, it had heart.

I appreciate Commited because I sense that the tone of the season is about to change, and the seriousness of the story arcs are about to kick in. So I'm treasuring one of the last lighthearted episodes we may get for a long time. And I think over time this episode will come to be more even more appreciated than it already is for that.

[RunWallyRun]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

First off, thank you for taking the time to pop on to the board! It's always nice when the folks directly involved with a entertainment property engage the fans. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that we're all very grateful for your post. And while the cast was awesome, the directing was spectacular as well, so don't forget to give yourself credit! ;)

Now, to the episode!

Right off the bat, let me say I really, really enjoyed this episode. The writing, acting, direction, and music all really clicked, I think.

On the writing front, I was specifically very pleased by:
-the general lack of clunky mixed metaphors from Lois and Chloe
-Clark actually acting rather charming/sweet
-Clark thinking through a problem on his own
-the avoidance of the very tired amnesia loophole
-the gradual realization on Lois and Clark's part that Chloe and Jimmy are in trouble, rather than a conveniently quick comprehension of the problem at hand
-the decision to have it be a normal lie detector rather than a specious kryptonite powered one
-"Pants. Pants on everyone." :lol: ...actually,the Lois and Clark dialogue in general was great. Very funny.
-Continuity callbacks! From Whitesnake, to Clark's football stint, to engagement parties not going exactly as planned...there's a feeling of connection here that's been missing in the past

I really enjoyed the Clark/Lois banter and investigation. It felt very much like a screwball comedy to me. It's nice to have that kind of lightheartedness on Smallville. In fact, I think this episode was very well balanced in tone.

The general plot seemed to be pretty typical Smallville to me, so I'm a bit perplexed by the claims that the episode was gimmicky. It's always a bit gimmicky, just like LnC was, just like Superman Returns was, and I'd venture to guess, just like most other screen adaptions of the Superman mythos are. Freak of the week=a gimmick, but we're all still watching, so that shouldn't really be to much of a problem, right?

The acting in this episode was superb, especially by Durance and Welling. The facial expressions that pair pulled out were wonderful. I love the non-verbals we get between this incarnation of Lois and Clark. Mack and Ashmore had some great reactions during their torture scene, too. I'd have to say the prize goes to Durance for MVP of the episode though. She really showed a lot of range here, and her confession scene was absolutely heart wrenching. Fantastic work.

I love the opening shot of this episode. The way the camera spins and pans is amazing. I don't usually notice those sorts of directorial things, but that really popped out to me. Also, the amount of movement during the various conversations worked really well. Most conversations in Smallville seem to be rather static, but without thinking very hard, I can remember at least 4 scenes which were very kinetic; they walked AND they talked! :D The bit were Clark pulled a ranting Lois out of the way of an oncoming taxi was a nice touch on that front. Also, this is a bit random, but I really like the lighting in Kent farm and final Daily Planet scenes.

I would assume that the shift towards using more score rather than current music is at least partially a budgetary consideration, but it's really working for me. I think the music in this episode enhanced the experience. That strain throughout the Lois and Clark scenes, weaving in bits and pieces from the movie scores, was really nice and I hope it is used throughout the season. I like the contemporary music that has been used in past Smallville episodes, generally, but it really does date the show no matter how apropos the song. The use of score in the episode gave it a bit more timeless feeling.

I could have done without the Tess/Oliver scenes, as they seemed rather disconnected from the rest of the episode. Jimmy's secret seemed out of place to me as well. As my final gripe...I'm pretty sure lie detectors don't work that way in real life. Of course, that seems to be a common enough convention in tv, so I can overlook it.

Overall, I'd say it was a very, very strong episode. It didn't advance the Doomsday/find Lex/Brainiac plots, sure, but I think the character development definitely keeps it from being filler (as a cursory glance at the plot may have suggested). It stands alone really well, too. I'm definitely putting it on my top 10 Smallville episode list, and near the top at that. :D

[SueB]

Werent you the one predicting falling raitings when they have actually (although slowly) increased, I apologyze if Im making the wrong asumption but based on your posts, it would seem you would actually be happy if raitings went down, to support some Clois=bad raitings theory;


Actually, based on K-site awards drop of ~19% participation from 2007 to 2008, I predicted in August that this was the kind of a drop in viewership to expect. And you know what? That's about the year to year drop that was received. My stats were pretty clear, Clois fans went up by 2.9% while everyone else just left.

And yes, I am disappointed ratings have stayed up over 4M only because it encourages TPTB. The contrived plot approach (Clark a reporter in under 3 mins, Jimmy is the perfect man--- yeeesh, krypto bracelets are enough to influence Clark from 15 feet away ---- whatever plot device they need to fumble along thru the story) undermines what use to be a good show. The poetry has left the show for me as there are no quiet moments nor character development and because I am not all hearts and flowers over Clois nor gaga over Superman without tights. I wanted Clark Kent's journey, instead they are delivering Superman without tights and his development was handled in offscreenville.

Committed was just another in a series of contrived plots, mix up some action, and end with a Clois moment. Rinse & repeat.

[awareville]

Actually, based on K-site awards drop of ~19% participation from 2007 to 2008, I predicted in August that this was the kind of a drop in viewership to expect. And you know what? That's about the year to year drop that was received. My stats were pretty clear, Clois fans went up by 2.9% while everyone else just left.

And yes, I am disappointed ratings have stayed up over 4M only because it encourages TPTB. The contrived plot approach (Clark a reporter in under 3 mins, Jimmy is the perfect man--- yeeesh, krypto bracelets are enough to influence Clark from 15 feet away ---- whatever plot device they need to fumble along thru the story) undermines what use to be a good show. The poetry has left the show unless you are all hearts and flowers over Clois or gaga over Superman without tights --- in which case, I think you can't see anything but ICONIC! therefore it must be good. I wanted Clark Kent's journey, instead they are delivering Superman without tights and his development was handled in offscreenville.

Committed was just another in a series of contrived plots, mix up some action, and end with a Clois moment. Rinse & repeat.

Because you are the official taste-o-meter?

[SueB]

Because you are the official taste-o-meter?

Just stating my opinion -- pretty sure that's allowed although I fully expect a 32 point post of why I'm wrong from 12 different people sometime today.

[awareville]

Just stating my opinion -- pretty sure that's allowed.


Your opinion is that most of the audience is stupid and just watches a show "because it is ICONIC". This is not just rude for a shipper fan group, it is rude for the viewing audience

[SueB]

Your opinion is that most of the audience is stupid and just watches a show "because it is ICONIC". This is not just rude for a shipper fan group, it is rude for the viewing audience

You've made a valid point. While that may be my opinion, I edited my post so as to not actually say that and instead write it in my perspective. And sorry, thought police are unable to prevent me from thinking that way.

ETA: And the basis of my generalization is the rampant "10!" crowd. Memoria, Hidden and the Pilot were about the only episodes close to a 10 for me. When people can overlook how lame the villain was and the way Kryptonite was used (really, it's just like the transporter failing at the critical moments) and their post is all "Clois4EVAH", I think it's not hard to guess what drove the 10 assessment. Memoria... .look at the depth there... compare that with Committed... how does a comedy episode remotely stack up?

[awareville]

You've made a valid point. While that may be my opinion, I edited my post so as to not actually say that and instead write it in my perspective. And sorry, thought police are unable to prevent me from thinking that way.

ETA: And the basis of my generalization is the rampant "10!" crowd. Memoria, Hidden and the Pilot were about the only episodes close to a 10 for me. When people can overlook how lame the villain was and the way Kryptonite was used (really, it's just like the transporter failing at the critical moments) and their post is all "Clois4EVAH", I think it's not hard to guess what drove the 10 assessment. Memoria... .look at the depth there... compare that with Committed... how does a comedy episode remotely stack up?


So, you're saying again that comedy lacks of quality?

[SueB]

So, you're saying again that comedy lacks of quality?

Not at all. But SV is not a comedy, it's a drama. Some of SV's best moments were comedy (the kitchen scene in Mortal comes to mind) but the overall episode was not a comedy. But comparing it to the next episode (Hidden), I see Hidden as higher up the scale by a long shot.

This was a light-hearted episode with some serious contrivances to put the characters in a lie detector machine for the purposes of making shipper arguments. The basic plot was just not up to par in terms of significance with other episodes that approached a 10. That so many gave it a 9 or 10 is just hard to justify as anything but shipper based in my opinion. Take Noir, for example. Now I could see how some, in love with the Black & White cinematography and the whole film noir concept would have given that a 10 (not me, there were some plot issues there too and it did zero for Clark's development) because it was a high-concept episode. It was a unique piece of work so I could see some folks really getting into that episode despite it being lighter fair. But Committed? What was special about that? It really did nothing more than par for the course on Clark development -- it was a shipper episode. The overwhelming favorable response is sending the message to TPTB: send us more shipper episodes. Sure, there are other points about the episodes folks can like -- but it was a shipper episode and to me it's clear that is the motivation for the "10" --- especially from those who devote much of their review talking about the relationships.

[hanemg]

Can I ask a question in all seriousness? Is it the shipper aspect that bothers you or the fact that it was shipper-biased in a way that you disagree with? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or even snippy, I just know that often does color ones perspective just as much as having a shipper story go the way you (generic "you") want it to.

[awareville]

Not at all. But SV is not a comedy, it's a drama.

It has been a teen drama for long, I can agree with that, but having comedic moments it is actually a step forward on its own in SV and Commited attributed in that (IMO, of course)
How many times in this forum alone have we heard in the past "No more brooding Clark!"
How many times have people said "stop making Clark so whiney!"
Now that his attitude is finally more light (to me that is NOT bad quality) people believe that this is lack of quality. And this again, diminishes the intelligence of the rest of the audience who enjoys the storytelling

[Fallen One]

So basically you don't like that folks loved this episode, you don't like that a director from SV (and thus, the producers themselves) read the feedback and now know that people loved the episode, and lastly you don't like that the show is not going down in flames as you want it to.

That about sums it up?

For someone who doesn't like people telling her what to think or how to think it, you have no problem doing the same to everyone else. Practice what you preach, Sue.

[SueB]

Is it the shipper aspect that bothers you or the fact that it was shipper-biased in a way that you disagree with? I'm not trying to be disrespectful or even snippy, I just know that often does color ones perspective just as much as having a shipper story go the way you (generic "you") want it to.

I don't think any shipper-biased comedy episode is ever going to be a 10 for me -- no matter what ship. Mortal was lighter fare and clearly a Clana ship -- and I liked the episode from a shipper perspective, but as I said above, it's not a 10. Hidden, which was not a shipper episode, was much closer.

My basic argument is that the rampant 10! in the poll here is not unbiased or without the shipper influence.

And no, I don't want shipper-centric episodes -- of ANY flavor. A little ship is fine but it's been dominating the last two (Instinct & Commited) and heavily influenced Toxic (the loves of Ollie was not the A plot but it was a close B plot). Toxic was a really bad episode IMO regardless of ship BTW --- choppy, full of outlandish leaps/plotholes/contrivances.

----- Added 4 Minutes later -----


So basically you don't like that folks loved this episode,

Their call -- but a "10" seems like a shipper-based opinion versus objective quality.


you don't like that a director from SV (and thus, the producers themselves) read the feedback

I think that's great. I like it when show runners engage on line.


and now know that people loved the episode

people at K-site love this episode -- I think that is all they should take from this visit


and lastly you don't like that the show is not going down in flames as you want it to.

That is true. I don't want TPTB encouraged to continue this plot line.


That about sums it up?


Clearly not.


For someone who doesn't like people telling her what to think or how to think it, you have no problem doing the same to everyone else. Practice what you preach, Sue.

Clearly we disagree.

[Jaderoyale]

I don't think any shipper-biased comedy episode is ever going to be a 10 for me -- no matter what ship. Mortal was lighter fare and clearly a Clana ship -- and I liked the episode from a shipper perspective, but as I said above, it's not a 10. Hidden, which was not a shipper episode, was much closer.


My basic argument is that the rampant 10! in the poll here is not unbiased or without the shipper influence.

I just gotta say, i didn't give the episode a 10 because it wa full of Clois or whatever.
I gave it a 10 because it was superb. The writing was fantasic, the acting was better than i have seen it for a while, and the directing was also fantastic.

I find it rather offensive to say the least, that you would think the majority of us voted 10 based on shipper views :\

((If that was not what you were saying i apologise, there is a chance i misunderstood your post :)))

[SueB]

I find it rather offensive to say the least, that you would think the majority of us voted 10 based on shipper views

((If that was not what you were saying i apologise, there is a chance i misunderstood your post ))

Nope. That is what I meant. Sorry to offend* it wasn't my intent. It's my honest opinion of what drives the overwhelming 10 response. Don't get me wrong, for many episodes there are some that just feel like the episode was exactly spot-on. But, do a correlation b/w the "10 voters" and the Clois avi's. Are you really saying that the positive Clois shipper emphasis didn't affect your vote? And let me put it another way. If a future episode is Clana4EVAH and all the Clana fans race in with a "10" vote --- I'd say the exact same thing. Shipping influences perspective.

I think a "10" for a run-of-the-mill plot with a shipper emphasis is suspect as a "10" worthy episode. I think it's a valid opinion and honestly, I'd be surprised if I am the only one posting who thinks that the Clois-nature of the episode had something to do with it's reception.

* If the show had been Ollie centric, and most everyone who voted a 10 had an Ollie avi, would it have been equally offensive to say "I think Ollie fans voted this a 10 because it was Ollie-centric?". If your answer to that is "yes", then I guess we are just going to have to disagree --- It was not my intention to offend.

[Dobson]

I gave it a 10 for the only reasons that mattered for me. I enjoyed it right across the board; writing, acting, music, direction.

[ShelbyKent]

SueB is entitled to her opinion. So she didn't like Committed. No biggie, got no problem with that. What I find just a tad disconcerting is the implication that eppies that rate a "10" are "shippy". I mean I gave Odyssey a "10" and I didn't think it was shippy at all.

*takes a peek at Odyseey thread* And a lot of people rated it a "10" (and lots of 7's 8's and 9's making it a well received eppie) and I think it's the least "shippy" of all the eppie's so far. It was very action-packed.

On the overall, I think viewers are capable of supporting their respective ships and yet be able to judge the soundness of an entire eppie. Peace y'all :)

[jimmyolsenblues]

we should get back on topic.....

10) DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD SHOULD AT ALL TIMES BE ABOUT THE SHOWS THEMSELVES OR THE FORUM TOPIC AT HAND.. To that end the following threads or discussions are strictly prohibited:
- Threads or discussions designed solely to insult another group of fans, such as threads about why people like one character more than another

[Tompouce]

[LOL... in short, you ROCK, and can you direct EVERY episode???[/quote]
Lol, so if it is the moment for asking something I will say : please, put the word "fiancé" in TW's mouth, I would love it;)(there are so many characters who tell it and never CK, I find it so cute !). Besides, I have a question : why you use sometimes the word "fiancé" and other times "bride", which is the difference for you ? (I know we are not at school but I wonder for a while, thanks:D)

[stenochick]

I just wanted to stick up for SueB, but since beginning my research of all the posts back and forth regarding the shipper controversy that I have missed, a warning has been posted to stay on topic.

So, instead I will make the following confession:

My name is Stenochick and I am a Cloiser. I am finally coming out of the closet of denial. I admit that I love Clois episodes more than any other episodes and watch them repeatedly on my TiVo. I give them 10's on Ksite polls because of my sheer enjoyment of all the Clois scenes, despite weak and/or predictable plot contrivances.

I have been doing this since 2004, but Committed is the one that has sent me soaring into full-on Clois-a-holism, due to its superior dialogue, direction, and acting in the Clois scenes.

I have tried to stay objective and neutral, but these Clois episodes are the ones I enjoy and my 10's are heartfelt, albeit completely biased.

Thank you for letting me share.

[eas]

What Timester said.

Clark was the focus. He was smart, mature and funny. He didn't bemoan his fate. He seemed comfortable in his skin, happy to be alive.

Agreed, shipping was mature, no teenage angst to be seen.

I gave it a 9.

Yup, I agree.

That WAS what was the best thing about the episode.

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I just wanted to stick up for SueB, but since beginning my research of all the posts back and forth regarding the shipper controversy that I have missed, a warning has been posted to stay on topic.

So, instead I will make the following confession:

My name is Stenochick and I am a Cloiser. I am finally coming out of the closet of denial. I admit that I love Clois episodes more than any other episodes and watch them repeatedly on my TiVo. I give them 10's on Ksite polls because of my sheer enjoyment of all the Clois scenes, despite weak and/or predictable plot contrivances.

I have been doing this since 2004, but Committed is the one that has sent me soaring into full-on Clois-a-holism, due to its superior dialogue, direction, and acting in the Clois scenes.

I have tried to stay objective and neutral, but these Clois episodes are the ones I enjoy and my 10's are heartfelt, albeit completely biased.

Thank you for letting me share.

:rotfl:

Were you ever *in* the closet of denial????

I have to say that I'm a Cloiser (I don't hide it) but I've rated some Clois-heavy episodes a very low score. "Crimson" being a prime example.

I am biased towards Clois (which is partly why I'm loving this season, I'm sure) but if "SV" sucks, I say it sucks - I just say that it sucked, but Lois was the best part. :p

The reason this episode was awesome (and S8, in general) is because Clark Kent is finally acting like the man he was supposed to be back in S5. What AlMiles promised us in S5 is what we're finally getting in S8.

Clark is smart, articulate, pro-active and just VERY fun to watch. He's the Superman we didn't even get to see in "Superman Returns".

THAT'S what made this a 10/10.

[margroks]

It was awful. This whole season has been the dregs with a few exceptions; I still think ED's character should be punished for c heating her way into the DP and I don't buy she's sudden'y a good reporter for an instant. I think Clark doesn't deserve to suddenly be a reporter either and it seemed a completel aboutface for him to say it would be worng to take advantage of CHloe's misfortune to get a job there then the next ep he's ok with doing it for whatever reason.

The Chimmy is just as nauseating as always; I have always hated Chimmy and don't like seeing Chloe relegated to an unfaithful idiot like JO; virtually NO ONE wants to watch a Chimmy wedding take place since the Chimmy has gone on two seasons too long as it is. I think she and no one else deserves Clark, the hero she has supported, called on his crap when he needed it and still managed to do so while treating him with respect. The Chloe and Clark relationship is the true Lois and Clark partnership of the show and as a very, very, very longtime Superman fan, I could never accept ED's character as the real deal. It's Chloe who supports Clark as the real Lois should and without Chloe and Clark together as they have been in past years, the show is not something I look forward to. Any amount of EDLois and Clark at the DP is way too much for me.

And pelase, no more Clana; Clark should have nothing to do with a girl who dear-johned him by videa; that makes Clark look like an abused BF who is chased women who mistreat him instead of women who treat him with dignity. Stop disrespecting Clark by doing that.

[stenochick]

:rotfl:

Were you ever *in* the closet of denial????

*sigh* Is it that obvious? I suppose I have exhibited all the warning signs of a Clois addict for some time now...


The reason this episode was awesome (and S8, in general) is because Clark Kent is finally acting like the man he was supposed to be back in S5. What AlMiles promised us in S5 is what we're finally getting in S8.

Clark is smart, articulate, pro-active and just VERY fun to watch. He's the Superman we didn't even get to see in "Superman Returns".

THAT'S what made this a 10/10.

I totally agree with that. My undying devotion to TW's Clark is the reason I have watched seasons 6 and 7 with the same loyalty as seasons 1-5, but Clark's change in attitude for season 8 has made me really love watching Smallville again.

The repeated viewings of Plastique, Instinct, and Committed, however, is all Clois addiction.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

I still think ED's character should be punished for cheating her way into the DP

Which she never did.


The Chloe and Clark relationship is the true Lois and Clark partnership of the show

She's a hacker. He's a BDA.

That's no partnership.


It's Chloe who supports Clark as the real Lois should

Then how come in the comics when they first meet she treats him like an inferior?

[individuall]

I just wanted to stick up for SueB, but since beginning my research of all the posts back and forth regarding the shipper controversy that I have missed, a warning has been posted to stay on topic.

So, instead I will make the following confession:

My name is Stenochick and I am a Cloiser. I am finally coming out of the closet of denial. I admit that I love Clois episodes more than any other episodes and watch them repeatedly on my TiVo. I give them 10's on Ksite polls because of my sheer enjoyment of all the Clois scenes, despite weak and/or predictable plot contrivances.

I have been doing this since 2004, but Committed is the one that has sent me soaring into full-on Clois-a-holism, due to its superior dialogue, direction, and acting in the Clois scenes.

I have tried to stay objective and neutral, but these Clois episodes are the ones I enjoy and my 10's are heartfelt, albeit completely biased.

Thank you for letting me share.

:lol:
I'm glad you're finally out of the 'Closet' Stenochick ;)

I rated this a ten because it was all around good quality TV. For me at least. Great acting, cinematography, witty/realistic dialogue. Wonderful direction. Great musical score..And the Clois was just the icing on the cake for me...Some things I wasn't thrilled with, but the good definitely out weighed the bad for me...So a ten it was! :)

[Dustmite]

For the most part, I hated it!

[RedKRules]

It was just another filler shipper comic relief episode that added nothing to the characters, expect for lightswitches feelings that came from nowhere land!

[STFanatic]

I went with a "9" which is the highest rating I usually give most episodes, the only episodes I would rate higher were the pilot and the episode "Run" from season 4.

I rate any series episodes not on who is on the screen, but on how much I personally enjoyed it.
I rate on the Fun factor, I watch any series for fun, whether it is for the action, comedy or just the WOW factor it is the same, if I enjoyed it it rates higher than if I just thought it was OK and told a story.

[Paty26]

This has got to be the ONLY time EVER that I've had high expectations for an episode and it went over and beyond what I wanted... I loved everything!!!:D

[Jade4813]

I totally agree with that. My undying devotion to TW's Clark is the reason I have watched seasons 6 and 7 with the same loyalty as seasons 1-5, but Clark's change in attitude for season 8 has made me really love watching Smallville again.

The repeated viewings of Plastique, Instinct, and Committed, however, is all Clois addiction.

I agree. ;) Of course, I'm a Cloiser, so of course I enjoy Clois scenes. I'm a huge fan of Lois in Smallville, so they could have her read the phone book and I'd probably enjoy it more than I would if other characters did.

That said, if I like an episode, it's not just because of the Clois. As eas said, I may think that the Clois was the best part of a bad episode.

What immediately comes to mind is "Siren," an episode I overall loathed except for my appreciation of the last scene. Still, liking the Clois part of the episode didn't make me appreciate the entire episode and wouldn't make my vote for that ep anywhere CLOSE to a 10. Similarly, I used to enjoy Lollie; I wish they'd let that relationship go on a bit longer, frankly. I loved the two of them together; they were sweet and fun and all kinds of things other ships on the show weren't at that point, IMO.

And yet I wasn't a huge fan of "Toxic." It wasn't the worst episode ever. I just wasn't a huge fan.

In the end, what I ask myself when I go to rate an episode is simply this: Was I entertained by that episode for as long as the episode had my attention? Yes, I will recognize that there are some episodes that are going to go above and beyond in that regard, that will do something new within the context of the show itself. "Memoria" is still probably my favorite episode ever (ruined only slighly by the Grulian plot). From start to finish, it was phenomenal. And that last scene with JG and MR just takes the cake for me.

Every show, even very, very strong shows, IMO, will have these episodes where they just raise that bar ever so slightly higher. These episodes are more rare than common, but when they come, they're phenomenal. Like "House's Head" at the end of last season of House. A very strong show overall, IMO, but that episode gave us just a little bit more than the show generally does. That doesn't make me like the rest, more typical, House episodes less. It just makes me appreciate "House's Head" just a little bit more.

I gave this episode high marks because I enjoyed this episode. Did the Clois in it help me enjoy it more? Probably so, yes, I'd say that's a fair bet. And yet I loved Lollie and gave "Toxic" a mediocre rating at best. I can't remember if I voted on "Siren" (I don't, always), but that episode would get low marks for me, Clois notwithstanding. "Crimson" would get mediocre marks. And, actually, 99% of last season would get low marks for me, Clois or no Clois. I appreciate the Clois in "Arctic;" that doesn't make me love that episode or anything.

At the end of the day, I enjoyed "Committed" - which is the only question I'm asking myself when I vote on the poll. Clois probably has a hand in that, but, then again, so does S7 as a whole. S7 did so much to kill my appreciation of Smallville, I haven't been able to stomach watching most of the episodes all the way through STILL to this day. So now when an episode comes along that I enjoy, it probably gets a little boost just because I find that I can and want to sit through it. I thought Clark in S7 was at an incredibly low point; at times, the furthest I could imagine from him being Superman. The Clark I'm watching on the show now is a man I see moving much, much closer. Not there yet, maybe, but certainly LEAGUES ahead of where he was before. And that makes me appreciate the episodes more.

Shipping influences one's opinions of an episode. If you see an episode that is positive for your ship in question, you'll likely be somewhat more entertained - at least during those particular scenes - than you would have been without. Similarly, if you're a shipper and an episode or a scene goes AGAINST your ship, you'll likely enjoy it less.

Still, people can form opinions on an episode that integrate shipping preferences without being ruled by them. All kinds of people can; not just a lucky few. In fact, all sorts of people can enjoy episodes for all sorts of reasons.

At the end of the day, I enjoy an episode if it entertains me during the time that I spend watching it. (And if I'm not brought out of the episode TOO many times to gripe about lack of continuity, etc.) That's what I'm going for. Episodes like "Memoria," "Transference," "Perry," "Apocalypse," "Justice" and even "Red" have all entertained me over the course of the show. Shipping or no shipping. Episodes like "Crimson," "Rage," and "Siren" have moments I appreciate for shipping reasons, but overall, the ratings on them would be mediocre at best. And then there are episodes like "Subterranean," "Thirst," and "Ageless" are going to get low ratings from me; I don't care if they actually have a scene of Lois and Clark doing the horizontal mambo. No amount of shipping could save those episodes, IMO.

"Odyssey" entertained me more than any episode had in a very, very long time. Consequently, I would give it high marks. "Plastique" was fun but had its moments that I wasn't entirely engaged - mostly, I think, due to the title character. Relatively high marks from me, but nothing "knock it out of the park" high. "Toxic" bored me at parts, so even though I love Lollie and thought that ED did a very good job in her scenes (and loved Clark's face when he comforted Lois), that gets mediocre marks from me. Didn't put me to sleep, per se, but certainly didn't make me particularly want to rewatch the episode that night or any night since.

"Instinct" was fun but, for all that I enjoyed the Cloisyness of it, had a couple of things that I found less entertaining. Thus, relatively high marks but not a 10 by any means. Committed, however, I enjoyed pretty much from start to finish. I loved all the main characters in it. Lois and Clark had me cracking up; I thought JH did a great job in the jewelry scene; AA did one of the best performances I've seen him do to date (I genuinely believed his fear for Chloe's safety), and I enjoyed Chloe more than I have in years and appreciated a Chlo-Lo scene more than I have in at least as long.

Thus, it entertained me. Thus, I gave it high marks. Period.

[Chrisluvstommy]

What wasn't there to love about this witty episode! Kudos to the writer

[Ayanne]

Another lightswitch for EDLois & her *insta* wuv for Clark now. Whatever.

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I still think ED's character should be punished for c heating her way into the DP and I don't buy she's sudden'y a good reporter for an instant. I think Clark doesn't deserve to suddenly be a reporter either and it seemed a completel aboutface for him to say it would be worng to take advantage of CHloe's misfortune to get a job there then the next ep he's ok with doing it for whatever reason.


Everything about EDLois has been a "cheat"..

[Dobson]

If there is one emotion we have no control over is who and when we fall in love with someone.

[SnowBird]

It is a shame that an episode has to be judged on the ship that sails. Reading these posts are like watching a war at sea with cannons firing away at each other. This was an awesome episode but holes have to be shot into it because of who Clark is featured with. I really get discouraged sometimes and want to run away and take cover.

I have enjoyed Clark's first love Lana. I love the friendship between Chloe and Clark. Now, I love the glimpse of a budding love between Lois and Clark. Each couple have had their turn and now it is time to feature Lois and Clark. Why can't there be smooth sailing without a war breaking out after every episode?

I couldn't help myself with the double meaning of ship. I never heard of being a shipper until I came to KSite. Now I have come to hate the word because of all the disagreements associated with it. I just want to make a plea that the shipper wars can be toned down. I know that this will probably fall on deaf ears but I figured it was worth the try.

Thank you:)

[Timester]

It is a shame that an episode has to be judged on the ship that sails. Reading these posts are like watching a war at sea with cannons firing away at each other. This was an awesome episode but holes have to be shot into it because of who Clark is featured with. I really get discouraged sometimes and want to run away and take cover.

I'm a pirate, waiting to loot all sunken ships! YARR!

(Ship wars exist since season 2, that's why I'm strongly anti-ship).

Seriously now, the best part of this thread so far is I can't like this episode because Clark was acting like ICK (Iconic Clark Kent)...

What? :confused:

[SupesComicFan]

I agree, Snow Bird.

Loved the episode. Characters moved forward (whether or not in the direction everyone likes, I don't know or care), interactions were good, funny dialogue, everything to love.

[Timester]

Loved the episode. Characters moved forward (whether or not in the direction everyone likes, I don't know or care), interactions were good, funny dialogue, everything to love.

Bolding the most important part.

AlMiles created a shipper-hamster wheel to keep people watching Smallville. Now that PS3 had the balls to stop the wheel, people complain. I understand the frustration, but can't understand the logic of watching a show biased on a ship. I honestly don't.

[mrw66855]

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I'm a pirate, waiting to loot all sunken ships! YARR!

(Ship wars exist since season 2, that's why I'm strongly anti-ship).

Seriously now, the best part of this thread so far is I can't like this episode because Clark was acting like ICK (Iconic Clark Kent)...

What? :confused:


AlMiles created a shipper-hamster wheel to keep people watching Smallville. Now that PS3 had the balls to stop the wheel, people complain. I understand the frustration, but can't understand the logic of watching a show biased on a ship. I honestly don't..

I agree. I like Lois and Clark relationship the most but I do not like an episode Based on that fact. I base a episode on what happens in, how it is acted and the dialogue. The last thing I base it on is who is involved. All this talk about which relationship is better is ridiculous, and is not needed. Also the light switch feelings, argument is ridiculous to. People can control when and how they feel about a person. I think Lois has love Clark for a long time she just has never admitted it to herself or anyone. Remember just my opinions

[Tompouce]

I'm a pirate, waiting to loot all sunken ships! YARR!

(Ship wars exist since season 2, that's why I'm strongly anti-ship).


I agree with you, I dont' understand these kind of struggles which last. CK loved Lana, ok it's over and we know he is soulmate is Lois (it has to be like this ) so let's enjoy the show for what it' s done : an entertainment (even if we can exchange ideas concerning plots,...):)

[KSiteTV]

How many times must it be reminded to not talk about fan groups and to stick to the topic at hand? I've posted warnings and others have too. I understand you feel passionate about this but psychoanalyzing fan groups is against the Board Rules.

[Tompouce]

sorry it was note my purpose at all...

[magoo]

I thought it was a pretty good episode over all, it made me smile. Some good subtle acting for a change.

My only gripes are that Clark must have busted out of his chair right in front of Lois' eyes and then she didn't even question why his cuts had gone as well as all the blood. And there just had to be a Kryptonite bracelet, how convenient (lazy).

8/10

[pixiedust]

I gave this ep a 10, not because I love Clois, though I do, but because it was an all around great episode. It was funny, suspenseful, full of mythos goodness, well acted, written and directed.

Clark actually thought of a way to use his powers and get Lois and himself out of a tight spot without Lois catching on. He's acting so Supermanly this season and I just adore it.

I've always liked Chimmy, at sometimes better than others, but I liked them in this episode very much. I even liked Ollie and Tess. It's unusual that I watch all parts of an ep with equal amounts of enthusiasm, but I did this one. It was good all the way through, even on rewatch.

But you know what I liked the most? I was just discussing this with a friend this morning. There was not any attempt to fill the character's mouths (usually Chloe and Lois) with a lot pop culture references and weird sayings that you would never hear someone say in real life. They actually sounded like normal people. I'm sure it had to do with the new writer who hasn't been corrupted by all the Chloe-isms that plague those who have been writing for the show for a long time. There is nothing wrong with the occasional reference but previously it was as if the show couldn't be written without them so it was refreshing to do without for a bit.

I'm loving the show this season, primarily because it seems we're finally getting to what the story is supposed to be about, Clark Kent becoming Superman. If the rest of the season continues to turn out eps as good as we've seen so far, this is going to be a stellar year.

[redRound]

I didn't like the shipping, especially Ollie/Tess. But it's true, the romance is more mature nowadays.

[ninthdegree]

Major 10!!!

I've been so excited about all the Clois this season and this episode was awesome!

[TWNik]

I gave it a 1. The show is supposed to be about Clark Kent - Pre-Superman, & I'm tired of the focus this season being all about EDLois. Most of all the lightswitch after lightswitchs relative to her character, at the expense of other character's Smallville history, including Clark - but most specifically that of Chloe Sullivan - who's now become nothing short of a Pod person. Is that due to to Brainiac, or part of the attempt to switch Chloe out of her place on Smallville for Lois?

Everything I see with EDLois this year, has been done previously & done organically in the context of Smallville continuity with Chloe.

The entire premise of Smallville & Clark - who is still only 21 years old is sadly morphing into a poor redux version of the 90's Lois & Clark show done by ABC. Everything original & creative about Smallville is being destroyed in the process. Badly done.

[Dodge006]

I gave it a 1. The show is supposed to be about Clark Kent - Pre-Superman, & I'm tired of the focus this season being all about EDLois. Most of all the lightswitch after lightswitchs relative to her character, at the expense of other character's Smallville history, including Clark - but most specifically that of Chloe Sullivan - who's now become nothing short of a Pod person. Is that due to to Brainiac, or part of the attempt to switch Chloe out of her place on Smallville for Lois?

Everything I see with EDLois this year, has been done previously & done organically in the context of Smallville continuity with Chloe.

The entire premise of Smallville & Clark - who is still only 21 years old is sadly morphing into a poor redux version of the 90's Lois & Clark show done by ABC. Everything original & creative about Smallville is being destroyed in the process. Badly done.

Strange...Tom Welling Born 26 April 1977, or the character of CC - now 4 years after graduating high school at the age of at least 18-19 now making him 22-23?

In any case...the show has progressed beond just him in SV before he becomes Superman, otherwise it would be over after season 4, and couldn't progress any further. It would be like the Simpsons if we couldn't go beond his years in Smallville.

This show is it's own, and gets compared to L&C, and comics too much. Yes there are some rules that should never be broken from the ideal of Superman (like Lois can't die or anything), but if it was the same old story again and again, how would there be a new show?

[Kal-ed]

I don't think any shipper-biased comedy episode is ever going to be a 10 for me -- no matter what ship. Mortal was lighter fare and clearly a Clana ship -- and I liked the episode from a shipper perspective, but as I said above, it's not a 10. Hidden, which was not a shipper episode, was much closer.

Their call -- but a "10" seems like a shipper-based opinion versus objective quality.



I think that's great. I like it when show runners engage on line.



People, have diferent reasons to love things and award them excellence, you may not agree but it doesnt make them any less valid.

See, first of all, all of us can vote, rate and like or love an episode as much as we want, secondly diferent reasons merit equal qualifications, We can give 10 to Rossetta cause Clark finally learns where he´s from, excellent performances, great fx and then give a 10 to Commited cause of the great dialogs, great acting, excellent direction and funny-lighthearted nature (specially after 1 and a half seasons of overwhelming angst), see two diferent reasons to award a ten non better than the other, take Titanic for example, it got as many OScars and awards as Ben Hur, can we actually compare them, in message, depth or intelectually?? No, but the context in which both played was also diferent.

I rated Commitment a 10, mostly because of Clark, sure I love Clois, no denying it, but even if all romance had been severed I would have still loved it, Clark using superbreath, Clark being chivalrous, heroic, supermanly, figuer´s things out on his own, smart, the way he got himself and Lois out of that sticky situation, with out needed the help of someone, being asertive, ALL his relationships were mature, not only about Lois but with Chloe and Jimmy as well, he saved the day with his thoughtfull speach, in general Clark, seemed more mature. But mostly I gave it a ten cause it showed me, that they are indeed Commited (pun intended) to this new direction they´ve taken with Clark, that I can indeed expect Clark at full hero mode from now on and that just like superman he will get himself out of trouble using his own wits, yes it´s been kind of a lightswitch, but is it the new showrunner´s fault?? Of course not, we are thankfull to AlMiles for creating the show but they dragged everything for too long, now here come 4 new producers who have 1, 2 season´s tops to put Clark where he´s supposed to be, its not that they are moving too fast with Clark and Clois, its that it had been stagnant for too long thanks to the previous showrunners, things had to be sped up, or time wouldnt have been enough.

ETA: I will no longer discuss this subject, as I just saw the mods had to intervene, how ever Im not editing out for two reasons, one, its not an attack towards anyone and two, I resent the implication that Im a simpleminded shipper, who only votes based on that and I need to make my point clear.

[individuall]

Strange...Tom Welling Born 26 April 1977, or the character of CC - now 4 years after graduating high school at the age of at least 18-19 now making him 22-23?


No, I believe Clark is supposed to be 21 on the show (I don't know why his age has anything to do with anything) they don't usually celebrate Clark's birthday till the Spring...So he'll be turning 22 :)...They made him a youngan for some reason...I think all the girls are older than him..I know Lois and Chloe are..I think Lana is too..

[Dodge006]

No, I believe Clark is supposed to be 21 on the show (I don't know why his age has anything to do with anything) they don't usually celebrate Clark's birthday till the Spring...So he'll be turning 22 :)...They made him a youngan for some reason...I think all the girls are older than him..I know Lois and Chloe are..I think Lana is too..

First off, I want to apoligise to everyone for using "CC" as Clark Kent, lol.

The problem about his age is it's never been consistant (common thing, I know), so yeah, no worries on that.

[Ayanne]

I gave it a 1. The show is supposed to be about Clark Kent - Pre-Superman, & I'm tired of the focus this season being all about EDLois. Most of all the lightswitch after lightswitchs relative to her character, at the expense of other character's Smallville history, including Clark - but most specifically that of Chloe Sullivan - who's now become nothing short of a Pod person. Is that due to to Brainiac, or part of the attempt to switch Chloe out of her place on Smallville for Lois?

Everything I see with EDLois this year, has been done previously & done organically in the context of Smallville continuity with Chloe.

The entire premise of Smallville & Clark - who is still only 21 years old is sadly morphing into a poor redux version of the 90's Lois & Clark show done by ABC. Everything original & creative about Smallville is being destroyed in the process. Badly done.

You are totally right, Clark (not TW) is supposed to be 21 years old, & he should still be in college. The rush & entrance into the Daily Planet with no credibility ( education, or qualifications) is ridiculous.

The borgification of Chloe's history makes me sad. She earned her place at the DP, it's her history & characterization being stolen/destroyed with to force the EDLois lightswitch garbage.

[individuall]

First off, I want to apoligise to everyone for using "CC" as Clark Kent, lol.

The problem about his age is it's never been consistant (common thing, I know), so yeah, no worries on that.

LOL. Thanks I was wondering who 'CC' was :lol:

[Kal-ed]

No, I believe Clark is supposed to be 21 on the show (I don't know why his age has anything to do with anything) they don't usually celebrate Clark's birthday till the Spring...So he'll be turning 22 :)...They made him a youngan for some reason...I think all the girls are older than him..I know Lois and Chloe are..I think Lana is too..

wasnt he 15, 8 years ago, when SV started?? that would make him 23

[individuall]

I think he was 14...I because I'm pretty sure Clark's b-day is in the Spring...They celebrated it in S5 in the spring...And Lois said something about Clark finally being Legal in 'Apocalypse' (which also air in the spring time)...So I believe he was 14 going on 15...
So he should be 21 going on 22...Like I said they made him a youngen for some reason...

[Kal-ed]

You are totally right, Clark (not TW) is supposed to be 21 years old, & he should still be in college. The rush & entrance into the Daily Planet with no credibility ( education, or qualifications) is ridiculous.
.


In Smallville, each season represent a whole year, its been on since Clark was 15 plus 8 years, equalls 23.

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I think he was 14...I because I'm pretty sure Clark's b-day is in the Spring...They celebrated it in S5 in the spring...And Lois said something about Clark finally being Legal in 'Apocalypse' (which also air in the spring time)...So I believe he was 14 going on 15...

She didnt say, FINALLY, she only sadi, "...Seriously check out your Driver´s Licences we´r legal now" but even if he was 14, that would make him 22 nearing 23.

[stenochick]

In Smallville, each season represent a whole year, its been on since Clark was 15 plus 8 years, equalls 23.

The show is in the beginning of its eighth season, so it has been on for seven whole years and a little bit of the eighth year. Clark's birthday is in May.

Season 1 started in October of his freshman year in high school, so unless he was kept back as a kid, he would have been 14 during season 1, until May of 2002 when he would have turned 15.

He turned 21 in May of 2008, during season 7. He remains 21 until May of 2009. That is why I have no problem with him being hired as a copy boy, because he is working at the DP in lieu of finishing college.

[individuall]

Your right Stenochick :D
But I don't think Clark is a 'copy boy' because I'm pretty sure they don't have those anymore in journalism...I could be wrong, but my friend is a journalist...And when I asked him about copy boys...He gave me a funny look...like 'what is that?' so yeah...I think Clark is an intern which is still the bottom of the barrel...So I'm OK with it...

[stenochick]

No, I believe Clark is supposed to be 21 on the show (I don't know why his age has anything to do with anything) they don't usually celebrate Clark's birthday till the Spring...So he'll be turning 22 :)...They made him a youngan for some reason...I think all the girls are older than him..I know Lois and Chloe are..I think Lana is too..

Yes. Lana was 18 at the beginning of season 4 when she was a senior in high school. That's why she and Jason felt okay about dating each other despite the student-coach thing. She must have missed the cut-off for kindergarten. My son will be in that situation when he starts school too. Although he was born in the same year, his birthday is one week too late to start kindergarten with kids his age and he will have to wait a whole year and be older than everyone in his class.

Lois referred to Chloe as her baby cousin or something like that, so I picture her being at least one year older than Chloe.

I have always assumed that Chloe, Pete, and Clark were all about the same age or at least all born in the same year.

[Ayanne]

In Smallville, each season represent a whole year, its been on since Clark was 15 plus 8 years, equalls 23.


He was 14, & this is the beginning of year 8. it's not completed. Chloe, Clark, Pete & Lana were all Freshmen in High School when Smallville started.

Which makes Clark 21 going on 22 in the Spring. He should totally still be in college right now, as should Chloe.

Even Interns have to earn their way in to a position at a newspaper. They are simply not given a job having absolutely no background in jouranlism or education qualifications.

[Kal-ed]

But you know what I liked the most? I was just discussing this with a friend this morning. There was not any attempt to fill the character's mouths (usually Chloe and Lois) with a lot pop culture references and weird sayings that you would never hear someone say in real life. They actually sounded like normal people. I'm sure it had to do with the new writer who hasn't been corrupted by all the Chloe-isms that plague those who have been writing for the show for a long time. There is nothing wrong with the occasional reference but previously it was as if the show couldn't be written without them so it was refreshing to do without for a bit.
.

I agree with most of your post but this specifically, in Instict I comented on how I HATED Lois´s line about "Like a red sox fan to the yankees" or something like that, who say´s those things in the middle of a crisis, who say´s those things at all:confused::confused:

[stenochick]

I agree with most of your post but this specifically, in Instict I comented on how I HATED Lois´s line about "Like a red sox fan to the yankees" or something like that, who say´s those things in the middle of a crisis, who say´s those things at all:confused::confused:

good point!:lol:

[individuall]

Yes. Lana was 18 at the beginning of season 4 when she was a senior in high school. That's why she and Jason felt okay about dating each other despite the student-coach thing. She must have missed the cut-off for kindergarten. My son will be in that situation when he starts school too. Although he was born in the same year, his birthday is one week too late to start kindergarten with kids his age and he will have to wait a whole year and be older than everyone in his class.

Lois referred to Chloe as her baby cousin or something like that, so I picture her being at least one year older than Chloe.

I have always assumed that Chloe, Pete, and Clark were all about the same age or at least all born in the same year.

Chloe's Bday is in the fall...They had an 18th bday party for her in S4 'Spell'...But on her tombstone it said she was born in 1987...Which can't be right if she's suppose to be 22, now, right? ...But then again SV has shown in the past that they aren't very good at math...I mean Chloe's mom left her at several different ages...Lois was 21 in 'Gone' when she was supposed to be 18-19...So really let's just say everyone on SV is in their early 20's shall we?..It'll just make everything a lot easier on our brains ;):lol:

[Kal-ed]

He was 14, & this is the beginning of year 8. it's not completed. Chloe, Clark, Pete & Lana were all Freshmen in High School when Smallville started.

Which makes Clark 21 going on 22 in the Spring. He should totally still be in college right now.

I get that, but did we ever get the age mentioned?? or we´r just asuming Clark was 14.

Never the less, the age, is not the issue, the issue is that Clark quit school a few seasons back and never came back. I wished they had gone the school route but they never did, now they´r working, in real life not everyone who succeed´s has a title, so I dont even have to use my "suspence of belief moment" card.

[morrigan01]

I gave the episode a 9 simply because Tess/Ollie bored be to death, to the point that I forgot all about them when they weren't onscreen.

Everything else was more or less great though, even with other minor quibbles I had.

Keep it up PS3. So far, the only episode I'm not interested in is Abyss, and even then I don't think I'll skip it, like I did a lot of episodes last season (and many during the second half of season 6).



But you know what I liked the most? I was just discussing this with a friend this morning. There was not any attempt to fill the character's mouths (usually Chloe and Lois) with a lot pop culture references and weird sayings that you would never hear someone say in real life. They actually sounded like normal people. I'm sure it had to do with the new writer who hasn't been corrupted by all the Chloe-isms that plague those who have been writing for the show for a long time. There is nothing wrong with the occasional reference but previously it was as if the show couldn't be written without them so it was refreshing to do without for a bit.

I call that phenomenon Buffyverse Dialouge, and it has infected pretty much every teen drama show since Buffy was on the air. Basically, it's characters on TV shows who are trying to do Buffy-speak, (pop-culture mashups, the verbing of nouns, etc.) but are doing it absolutely wrong, because the writers don't have the skill Joss Whedon does to write dialogue like that and not have it sound trite. There's a rhythm to writing dialogue like that, and I think the only writers who do it well are ones who have actually written for a Joss Whedon show.

[stenochick]

Chloe's Bday is in the fall...They had an 18th bday party for her in S4 'Spell'...But on her tombstone it said she was born in 1987...Which can't be right if she's suppose to be 22, now, right? ...But then again SV has shown in the past that they aren't very good at math...I mean Chloe's mom left her at several different ages...Lois was 21 in 'Gone' when she was supposed to be 18-19...So really let's just say everyone on SV is in their early 20's shall we..It'll just make everything a lot easier on our brains ;):lol:

Oh yeah, I forgot about Chloe's bd party in Spell. So she missed the deadline for kindergarten, too! I like the idea of Lois being older than Clark. I never knew they had established an age for her. It's been a while since I watched season 4.

[Kal-ed]

Even Interns have to earn their way in to a position at a newspaper. They are simply not given a job having absolutely no background in jouranlism or education qualifications.


Actually it does happen, I entered as a full blown employee to my countries Oil company, cause I had conections, I was in higschool and had absolutely no qualifications, I left cause I went to study to Europe but by the time I was leaving I had been promoted 3 times and two diferent divisions were fighting over me, its not my intention to brag at all, my only point is, neither school, nor backround are essencial; yes I completely agree its preferable if one has experience and/or an education, its also a lot more likely a person can succeed but its not exclusive to them, sometimes and it happens in real life, people are succesfull without a finished education nor previous experience in their field.

Take Clark for example, maybe Clark or Chloe knew someone from the HR department, maybe people knew Clark had pull with the Luthors and asumed they would want him hired, maybe Tess, who knew about Clark through Lex saw the aplication of someone she would normally reject but since it was Clark he got the job, once he was in, he´s Superpowers are a big advantage for him, that can help him succeed in that field.

I know Im just specking but it isnt that far fetched, that he´s a copy.

[individuall]

^Also he is a Senator's son..That could have given him a one up too.

[Québec]

I see your:


Nope. That is what I meant. Sorry to offend* it wasn't my intent. It's my honest opinion of what drives the overwhelming 10 response. Don't get me wrong, for many episodes there are some that just feel like the episode was exactly spot-on. But, do a correlation b/w the "10 voters" and the Clois avi's. Are you really saying that the positive Clois shipper emphasis didn't affect your vote? And let me put it another way. If a future episode is Clana4EVAH and all the Clana fans race in with a "10" vote --- I'd say the exact same thing. Shipping influences perspective.

And raise you with:

Take a look at all the people who claimed this episode was worth 1, or even less. I'd say there's also a correlation there. And it ain't hard to find out.

[SupesComicFan]

I couldn't put my finger on why I liked the interactions between characters, and it DOES come from the lack of Chloe-speak (even from Lois). Makes me think of Dan Rather and his rants, and it isn't smart, cute, or funny. I am glad I didn't see it this episode. I have a writer/friend who attempts to interject these speeches in his stories, and they annoy me there, like they annoy me on SV. Look how witty I am! I made a pop-culture reference/pun! Nope. Don't enjoy it.

I also agree that if you like the 'ship, you like the epi more. Of course you do. I am not giving any episode a 10 (or a 1) unless I either love it so much I want to sleep with it at night, or hate it so much I want to burn it. One episode of the entire series will get these ratings from me, but I will have to wait until the series is over to dish them out. I don't 'ship (except I am anti-Chlois), so I give this a 7.

[Tompouce]

Perhaps, it's because first Clark had participated to many investigations with success so Tess who knows a lot about him can trust him as a reporter and it's easy for her to watch him as he is never far from her...

[SueB]

Quebec... ITA, almost made that point myself.


The borgification of Chloe's history makes me sad.

I think borgification is spot-on. She's becoming more Brainiac'd by the minute. In what version of the SV universe does Chloe have to be reminded by Jimmy that they need to call the police or take some action regarding the lame villain? She was totally passive in that regard which is the anti-Chloe.

[La Donna]

Quebec... ITA, almost made that point myself.



I think borgification is spot-on. She's becoming more Brainiac'd by the minute. In what version of the SV universe does Chloe have to be reminded by Jimmy that they need to call the police or take some action regarding the lame villain? She was totally passive in that regard which is the anti-Chloe.

I thought it was weird too that Jimmy was the one who said they needed to call the police. That should have been what both of them were thinking right after they came to. Plus, Chloe's usual first/second reaction is calling Clark and informing him of what's going on so he can do something about it. But I don't think she did, even if they did have Clark show up at the talon when the police were there. It seemed more like he heard they were released and then went there. Chloe usually feels Clark needs to know so he can save anyone who's in danger, and since they already saw that the man had killed some other couples, she should have assumed that after he released Chloe and Jimmy he was going out to grab another couple.

But, even with that being said, I think most tv shows, especially sci-fi or detective shows, use these absurd contrivances in order to move the plot. Usually, I just try to overlook it. In this case, that krypto bracelet was what I had to overlook. They could have had the basement be where the jeweler made his jewelry and so had a shelf with a few meteor rock pieces of jewelry right next to the chairs where Clark and Lois sat. Something that made more sense and that was continually within the same distance of Clark. Maybe he could have used the man's body after head butting him to shove him into the shelf to knock it down, and then who knows, the pieces could still fall down the grate, or it could have knocked it so far back that Clark regains some of his power and strength. I don't know. Kryptonite showing up every time they need Clark de-powered is sort of a given with Smallville. I just think that we could have accepted it being there if it had a more rationale explanation.

[mysticalweather]

I gave the episode a 9. The plot was contrived, but I've long since learned to just accept the sometimes 'bubble gum' nature of the show and just move on.

I'm loving Clark in Season 8. Finally we get some development instead of being forever stuck in Clana Limbo. He's more assertive, more confident, just...more everything. I'm liking it. Proactive!Clark FTW!

And yes, I did smile at the Clois scenes. Their dynamic is so much fun. My take on Lois and Clark is that Lois, unlike any other it seems, tends to get under Clark's skin and rattle him a bit. And now we're finally seeing him respond in kind. Good natured banter, using sarcasm/teasing to hide deeper feelings, verbal sparring... I love all of that so I really enjoy watching them together on screen.

And thank goodness Clark *finally* remembers he even has heat vision. I couldn't tell you how many episodes where I'm practically yelling at my TV, "Why, Clark? Why didn't you just use your heat vision??"

I must be one of like 2 people who actually *likes* Chimmy (and I'm just assuming there must be another out there like me...) Granted, it's not a smoking hot fireworks kind of ship, but it's cute, sweet. I've always felt bad for Jimmy actually. Chloe *has* always put her relationship with him second to her friendship with Clark. Now, Chloe's knowing the nature of Clark's secret makes that understandable for us as the audience...but poor Jimmy has no idea. Still, I like the idea that Chloe has moved on from her crush on Clark. Unrequited love doesn't last forever...she's learned to find happiness elsewhere, and I'm glad for her character.

So overall, I enjoyed this one. Looking forward to the rest of this season. Hope the momentum stays on the up-swing. :)

~Misty

[Titch22]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

I loved the ep. It was a great balance of the angst and the comedy. The torture scenes were gripping and Ericas performance when she admited loving Clark made me tear up. The Clois ring scene had me cracking up. Ollie's reaction was just hilarious and I think was a stroke of genious to have him there as appose to anyone else.

This season has been fantastic over all. Your strongest season yet. The writing has much improved and I really feel your playing to the strengths of the characters. And allowing them to move forward in ways that make sense.

My only complaint would be I want to see Jimmy at the Planet. The Chimmy reltionship is cute and all but is not all that he is about.

Keep up the good work.

[STFanatic]

I am a Jimmy Olsen fan from WAY back, one of my monthly comic purchases was "Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen", OK, I will be honest, I bought the Lois Lane comics too as I bought every Superman title at the time, but, as I was saying, I have always liked Jimmy Olsen.
I like that they have "Chimmy" going on, however, I do NOT like that they are making Jimmy a kinky pervert, enough with the handcuffs & whipped cream OK?
That is not Jimmy Olsen, Jimmy has always been Superman's sidekick. An insecure-around-women sort of comic relief kind of guy who has a big heart and gets into mischief and tries to impress his colleagues.
Jimmy can be a great character if used properly, as a kid, I loved some of the situations Jimmy got into, as in becoming Elastic Lad, Turtle Boy, Wolf Man, and so on.
James "Mr. Action" Olsen idolized Lois Lane & Clark Kent as career role models since day one and continually tried to impress them which is how he got into the odd situations.
No one on Smallville seems to be impressed by his seemingly perverted hints, I personally do not find it humorous.
They used him well on the animated series, I wish that if they must have Jimmy on Smallville, they would use him as well as that.
I do not "Ship" anyone, but I do want the characters to be utilized properly.
I don't mind the writers coupling any of the characters, but, I don't want to have glimpses into their bedroom antics.
What Would Johnathan Say?

[snarkycole]

Again, I thought this was a good episode, better than many of seasons past, but for me to have given this episode a ten that would have meant all of the following applied (in no real particular order):

1. I enjoyed the Clois interactions.
2. I bought that Chloe isn't in love with anyone else and also her reiteration that she only loves Jimmy.
3. I enjoyed the development in the Oliver/Tess relationship/storyline.
4. I thought that the villain of the week brought something new and interesting that previous villains hadn't brought to the table, and they were used in a way that wasn't contrived.
5. I thought there was some good character development.
6. I thought Clark's superheroism was used effectively.
7. I thought all/most of the acting was superb.
8. I was never confused with the storytelling.
9. The plot of the episode was interesting and moved along in the appropriate speed (not too fast, and not too slow).
10. I thought that writing proved that Chloe and Jimmy are in a healthy, loving relationship and really should get married.

I liked the Clois interactions, in fact, that and the Chloe-Lois scenes were the only things that I 100% enjoyed about this episode. I love Clark and Lois when they are sniping, it's fun (though to me it's always been more of the way siblings snark at each other than a underlying sexual/romantic tension banter, but that is not to say I wouldn't believe their feelings growing romantic in nature in the future). I buy that Chloe isn't in love with anyone else, but I do not buy that she is in love with Jimmy. I didn't enjoy the Tess/Oliver stuff...Tess I found believable with the whole cold "I had an itch that needed scratching" facade, but I'm not buying this whole Oliver romancing Lex's out-of-nowhere, right-hand woman that he conveniently has a past with from his very important days on the deserted island that changed his life.

The villain of the week was lame and his only purpose was to have Chloe say she isn't in love with anyone else and for Lois to admit she has feelings for Clark....as a previous poster said, I would have liked it better to see how far Chloe was willing to go to protect the secrets of others (Clark, Oliver, etc.), even if that meant seeing Jimmy in pain. Oh, and, again, the kryptonite watch was uber lame. There was some good character development, but also some head scratching "where did that come from?" moments. I like how Clark saved the day, and I buy the fact that Lois didn't see Clark use his powers because of the steam that overtook the room (although, I do question why she didn't wonder what happened to the blood on Clark's face from the cuts that were just on it moments before). I thought all of the actors brought their A-game to this episode.

Some of the storytelling confused me. For instance, the engagement party was clearly at the Talon, which Jimmy and Chloe live above, yet for some reason, the writers decided to make the fact that their car(s) get(s) towed a key clue for Lois and Clark that that must mean (in case the unused honeymoon suite-esque room wasn't hint enough) that Jimmy an Chloe didn't make it back to their apartment. If they wanted to make the whole towing of their cars to make more sense, they should have used the Ace of Clubs set (sure, it wouldn't make sense that they would drive all the way back to Smallville that night, since it's supposedly a three-hour drive, but they would need their cars to get home and the towing would mean they never got into them to drive home). To me, that's kind of sloppy writing. Also, in the storytelling, the villain's method of deciding whether a couple deserved to be together or not wasn't thought out well enough. I mean, apparently all he needs to ask are two questions and he knows they deserve to stay together; 1. Have you cheated on your fiance? 2. Do you love your fiance (and not some other person)? Personally, I think that while those are two important facts, they are not the only foundations for a strong relationship. Logically, he would have had more than two questions, but I chalk that up to the fact the writers wanted to move the episode along so we could get to the part where it is Lois and Clark in the hot seats. This point also goes with how I felt the plot moved...I thought it flew by way to fast and they didn't spend enough time developing important elements, like villain and his motives. The point of the plot of this episode was for two purposes and two purposes alone: one, show the dynamics of Clois and how they are really starting to fall for each other. And two, show that despite what the majority of viewers and professional television critics think, Chloe and Jimmy are the real deal. This is all. They could have shown us this without the Saw-villain rip-off by using some other way rather than the convenient "lie detector attached to electric chairs" plotline.

A core piece of the episode was to show that despite the half-truths and past insecurities between Chloe and Jimmy, they are meant for each other. I mean, they are the only people who passed the psycho's love test, right? Sure, Jimmy thought that Chloe was in love with Clark but still proposed to her anyway, so what if he never told Chloe he backed out of a deal with Lex Luther that resulted in her getting fake arrested and locked up for four weeks to get tested on, and who cares that he thought so little of Chloe that he believed she would judge him because his mother abandoned him and his father was an alcoholic, I mean, how could Chloe EVER relate to not having the perfect family or childhood upbringing? All that matters is that the writers committed to having a Jimmy and Chloe pairing and are going to make sure it is seen through, despite the fact that they don't trust each other completely and their romantic chemistry barely simmers.

So, this is why I'm confused why there were so many 10s. To me, 10=perfection. I don't care how much you like Clois or Chimmy or seeing Oliver without his shirt, this was not perfection. 9s, I get...8s I especially understand. But to say it was a 10 is to turn a blind eye to many of the flaws that hindered the episode.

[stenochick]

Some of the storytelling confused me. For instance, the engagement party was clearly at the Talon, which Jimmy and Chloe live above, yet for some reason, the writers decided to make the fact that their car(s) get(s) towed a key clue for Lois and Clark that that must mean (in case the unused honeymoon suite-esque room wasn't hint enough) that Jimmy an Chloe didn't make it back to their apartment. If they wanted to make the whole towing of their cars to make more sense, they should have used the Ace of Clubs set (sure, it wouldn't make sense that they would drive all the way back to Smallville that night, since it's supposedly a three-hour drive, but they would need their cars to get home and the towing would mean they never got into them to drive home). To me, that's kind of sloppy writing.

Snarkycole, I appreciate you taking the time to write such a thoughtful, detailed review. The parking situation makes perfectly logical sense to me as I have resided in the downtown business districts of smaller towns and major cities alike.

Even though Smallville is this idyllic small town with outlying farms, there is still a quaint downtown Main Street business district. The Talon is on that main street and to park your car there, you need to use a meter and obey the overnight street cleaning ordinances, ie, move your car to another part of the street or it will be towed by the municipality.

Jimmy and Chloe had their jackets on and were outside the back entrance saying goodbye to their guests. They were talking about going back upstairs when the crazy guy abducted them. I am assuming that they had planned on moving their cars before they retired for the night so that they wouldn't be fined and towed, but never got that opportunity.

It's not realistic for the town to call and leave you a message, but it's a small town and it made more sense for Clois to recieve that info verbally on the machine than for the normal process of the owner going out to her car to find it gone and say "Oh, snap! My car has been impounded."


So, this is why I'm confused why there were so many 10s. To me, 10=perfection. I don't care how much you like Clois or Chimmy or seeing Oliver without his shirt, this was not perfection. 9s, I get...8s I especially understand. But to say it was a 10 is to turn a blind eye to many of the flaws that hindered the episode.

When I vote in these polls, I vote based on nothing but my emotion and how the episode made me feel. I vote based on pure enjoyment which is why my votes are always completely biased.

If I had to weight my categories, they would be: characterization of Clark Kent 80%; "Clois" anvils 10%; plotholes and inconsistencies, (mis)characterization of any other character, amount of mixed metaphors in dialogue, plot retreads and retcons, originality or lack thereof, plot contrivances, etc. 10%.

So, as you can see, even though I am aware of all the flaws and minutia of an episode, if Clark acts the part of the hero and there are allusions to the future Clark and Lois of the mythology I grew up with, I'm already at 90% "perfect 10." :)

[Khyla]

...

I liked the Clois interactions, in fact, that and the Chloe-Lois scenes were the only things that I 100% enjoyed about this episode. I love Clark and Lois when they are sniping, it's fun (though to me it's always been more of the way siblings snark at each other than a underlying sexual/romantic tension banter, but that is not to say I wouldn't believe their feelings growing romantic in nature in the future). I buy that Chloe isn't in love with anyone else, but I do not buy that she is in love with Jimmy. I didn't enjoy the Tess/Oliver stuff...Tess I found believable with the whole cold "I had an itch that needed scratching" facade, but I'm not buying this whole Oliver romancing Lex's out-of-nowhere, right-hand woman that he conveniently has a past with from his very important days on the deserted island that changed his life.
...
So, this is why I'm confused why there were so many 10s. To me, 10=perfection. I don't care how much you like Clois or Chimmy or seeing Oliver without his shirt, this was not perfection. 9s, I get...8s I especially understand. But to say it was a 10 is to turn a blind eye to many of the flaws that hindered the episode.

An Excellent UNBIASED review!

I especially liked :

I buy that Chloe isn't in love with anyone else, but I do not buy that she is in love with Jimmy.

I said the same exact thing in another post. :)

[triplet]

Hi this is Glen the director of Committed.
I am so glad that many of you liked this episode. The cast was awesome, and they made it great. Thank you all for watching, and behalf of all of us at Smallville we really appreciate your support after all these years!!!
GW

Glen,

I officially LOVED Committed.

I absolutely loved the fight scene between Tess and Oliver, didn't quite get what Oliver was up to in this episode, but the fight choreography was fantastic in combo with the camera work in that scene.

And I simply adored the scenes in the jeweler's dungeon. Very surprisingly subtle choices in there, and I loved the way those scenes looked too. Gord should shoot the show more often.

Don't even get me started on how adorable Clark and Lois were and how sweet and romantic Chloe and Jimmy were!

What an awesome episode! Not perfect, but it was a lot of fun.

My review is coming up soon, so read more there!

AWESOME episode!

[eas]

I am a Jimmy Olsen fan from WAY back, one of my monthly comic purchases was "Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen", OK, I will be honest, I bought the Lois Lane comics too as I bought every Superman title at the time, but, as I was saying, I have always liked Jimmy Olsen.
I like that they have "Chimmy" going on, however, I do NOT like that they are making Jimmy a kinky pervert, enough with the handcuffs & whipped cream OK?
That is not Jimmy Olsen, Jimmy has always been Superman's sidekick. An insecure-around-women sort of comic relief kind of guy who has a big heart and gets into mischief and tries to impress his colleagues.
Jimmy can be a great character if used properly, as a kid, I loved some of the situations Jimmy got into, as in becoming Elastic Lad, Turtle Boy, Wolf Man, and so on.
James "Mr. Action" Olsen idolized Lois Lane & Clark Kent as career role models since day one and continually tried to impress them which is how he got into the odd situations.
No one on Smallville seems to be impressed by his seemingly perverted hints, I personally do not find it humorous.
They used him well on the animated series, I wish that if they must have Jimmy on Smallville, they would use him as well as that.
I do not "Ship" anyone, but I do want the characters to be utilized properly.
I don't mind the writers coupling any of the characters, but, I don't want to have glimpses into their bedroom antics.
What Would Johnathan Say?

I agree. I was one of the folks who actually liked the Chimmy 'ship back when it first started in S6. It quickly went down-hill with the "secrets and lies" problem that plagued Clana for 7 years. And, then, they brought Kara & had Jimmy also ogling Lois and I just couldn't take it, anymore. I think that main reason folks can't go along with the Chimmy 'ship is because they've made Jimmy so un-likable in this version.

[Moonshayde]

This. Everything else is pointless, IMO.

Let me expand on "everything else". I meant that Clark should always be the main focus, even when the episode is not about him, which was the case this week. Even the shipping was mature, not a common thing on Smallville.

Thanks. I know this might be hard to believe, but despite being a Cloiser, my ship isn't my #1 priority. I'm a Cloiser and not ashamed of it. But first and foremost, I am invested in characterization and plot. Most importantly, I am focused on Clark.

The fact Clark has been proactive, fun, and multifaceted this season - and reminds me of a more mature version of Clark from the early seasons - is the reason I am scoring the eps this season so highly. I haven't given any a 10 yet, but I rarely do ;)

The Clois for me is the icing on the cake, the cherry on top. I don't need ship to be happy because I tune in for the story for Clark. But I do like the hints and the anvils, and I don't complain when they explore it a bit like they have this season.

Most of my fave episodes, in fact, have been episodes that push Clark closer to his destiny, have him discover a new power or insight, or highlight the parallels and tensions between himself and Lex.

So as a Clark fan, I was very happy with Committed and the episodes before it :)

[eas]

Again, I thought this was a good episode, better than many of seasons past, but for me to have given this episode a ten that would have meant all of the following applied (in no real particular order):

1. I enjoyed the Clois interactions.
2. I bought that Chloe isn't in love with anyone else and also her reiteration that she only loves Jimmy.
3. I enjoyed the development in the Oliver/Tess relationship/storyline.
4. I thought that the villain of the week brought something new and interesting that previous villains hadn't brought to the table, and they were used in a way that wasn't contrived.
5. I thought there was some good character development.
6. I thought Clark's superheroism was used effectively.
7. I thought all/most of the acting was superb.
8. I was never confused with the storytelling.
9. The plot of the episode was interesting and moved along in the appropriate speed (not too fast, and not too slow).
10. I thought that writing proved that Chloe and Jimmy are in a healthy, loving relationship and really should get married.

I would say that I had all 10 - except #10. However, I don't think that #10 is necessarily what they want you to walk away with in this episode. I think that the purpose of this episode was to show that Chloe and Jimmy have issues beyond just Chloe's secrets. Jimmy is insecure when it comes to Chloe and I think that'll play a role in them breaking up, at some point.

The purpose of this episode, imo, was to show that Clark is not ready for commitment. He is the hero of the series, after all, and the first thing we have to do is look at his role in this episode and whether it gave us insight into how he feels and what makes him tick. Last week, we had a Clark Kent who was doing some soul searching about his choices regarding this love life (starting with the Lana necklace and ending with his talk with Lois) and Clark was very much afraid that he'd miss out on recognizing his soul mate. This week continued that theme -- his soul mate was there, in front of him, and he's missing out & furthermore, he's got no problem with the fact he's missing out. He's not ready for committment and he's not shy about hiding it. He's not ready to fall in love again and go through that roller coaster of emotions that he had with Lana.

So, imo, what makes this a 10/10 is that (1) it's about Clark and what's going on in his mind and (2) by the end of the episode, we know more about how he feels and he's gone through some sort of development and change through the events of the episode.

Everything else is fluff and I treat it as such. Character development is key for me. And all characters (most notably Clark) had character development in this episode, which was building off of what started in "Instinct".

Is the Tess/Ollie thing a bit contrived? Yes, but that started in "Toxic", continued in "Instinct" and this episode just picked up the thread from there - and did it as well as can be expected. They couldn't just have a whole episode about how Tess and Ollie were stuck on an island together & then NOT give us a B-plot that revolved around a courtship. I'm just glad it was a limited courtship and it also gave us insight into Ollie. He cheated on Tess -- can't say I saw that coming. Tess used him to scratch an itch - I saw that coming and good for her. It'll be interesting to see how these two billionaires fight out over the course of the season & the impact that this'll have on Ollie's development. Chloe and Jimmy were enjoyable to watch during their scenes - I may not buy them as a couple, but the scenes they were in where well acted, paced well, and fit in with the over all story very well. And Lois was pure gold.

In short, can't get much better than this. And, just to give you an idea that I don't rate Clois/Lois eps higher, I can tell you that I rated last week's episode an "8".

[Jaderoyale]

Nope. That is what I meant. Sorry to offend* it wasn't my intent. It's my honest opinion of what drives the overwhelming 10 response. Don't get me wrong, for many episodes there are some that just feel like the episode was exactly spot-on. But, do a correlation b/w the "10 voters" and the Clois avi's. Are you really saying that the positive Clois shipper emphasis didn't affect your vote? And let me put it another way. If a future episode is Clana4EVAH and all the Clana fans race in with a "10" vote --- I'd say the exact same thing. Shipping influences perspective.

I think a "10" for a run-of-the-mill plot with a shipper emphasis is suspect as a "10" worthy episode. I think it's a valid opinion and honestly, I'd be surprised if I am the only one posting who thinks that the Clois-nature of the episode had something to do with it's reception.

* If the show had been Ollie centric, and most everyone who voted a 10 had an Ollie avi, would it have been equally offensive to say "I think Ollie fans voted this a 10 because it was Ollie-centric?". If your answer to that is "yes", then I guess we are just going to have to disagree --- It was not my intention to offend.

Oh right, i understand what you're saying though.
But do bear in mind, that just because some of us are "Clois" shippers etc, that didn't influence our vote. It didn't influence mine.
My 10 was soely for the acting, writing and direction of the episode.

[BadToad]

I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone should be made to feel as though they need to justify the rating they give an episode. The requirements one needs to enjoy an episode are unique to each individual. If someone feels like they want to give a 10 because they got so much enjoyment from the episode, and it especially played to the aspects of the show they love (for instance, in my case, Clark is always #1 priority), and they feel like they can live with some of the eps flaws, then thats OK. Its no difference then someone deciding the ep has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever because it didn't cater to their individual preferences, so that they are unable to appreciate any of the positives and they give it a 1. For me personally, I don't really understand how an episode that has such a smart, proactive, capable, quick thinking, heroic Clark can be a 1, but thats JMO.

[celita]

This episode was awesome, congratulations to Brian Miller, he did great in his first Smallville's episode. Glen Winter did a nice work too, I don't even know how much times I've seen "Committed" already!.

[WickedJenn]

I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone should be made to feel as though they need to justify the rating they give an episode. The requirements one needs to enjoy an episode are unique to each individual. If someone feels like they want to give a 10 because they got so much enjoyment from the episode, and it especially played to the aspects of the show they love (for instance, in my case, Clark is always #1 priority), and they feel like they can live with some of the eps flaws, then thats OK. Its no difference then someone deciding the ep has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever because it didn't cater to their individual preferences, so that they are unable to appreciate any of the positives and they give it a 1. For me personally, I don't really understand how an episode that has such a smart, proactive, capable, quick thinking, heroic Clark can be a 1, but thats JMO.

ITA BadToad.

The poll does not specify what each numerical rating denotes, frex, "10=solid directing, acting, art," etc. It's general and therefore each person has their own reasons why they liked/disliked it and it shouldn't be assumed that, because someone voted a particular way (in this case I'll use a 9 or 10) they somehow have a bias or glossed over flaws in the episode. To me the flaws are interpretative. What one person considers a flaw could be a plus to another person.

Same thing with voting an extreme dislike for the episode. What I may see as good and positive another may see as negative. I also see a proactive, Supermanly Clark a huge plus but then, that's also JMO. Perhaps for another that wasn't enough.

:)

[Kalista]

I don't mind the writers coupling any of the characters, but, I don't want to have glimpses into their bedroom antics.

:rotfl:

[Tompouce]

Please, what to do you mean by "IMO" ? It's not the first time I see it...Thank you

[individuall]

Please, what to do you mean by "IMO" ? It's not the first time I see it...Thank you

IMO= In My Opinion :)

[STFanatic]

Please, what to do you mean by "IMO" ? It's not the first time I see it...Thank you

Acronyms & Abbreviations Decoded (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61706)

[Tompouce]

Thanks a lot

[gtw]

Glen,

I officially LOVED Committed.

I absolutely loved the fight scene between Tess and Oliver, didn't quite get what Oliver was up to in this episode, but the fight choreography was fantastic in combo with the camera work in that scene.

And I simply adored the scenes in the jeweler's dungeon. Very surprisingly subtle choices in there, and I loved the way those scenes looked too. Gord should shoot the show more often.

Don't even get me started on how adorable Clark and Lois were and how sweet and romantic Chloe and Jimmy were!

What an awesome episode! Not perfect, but it was a lot of fun.

My review is coming up soon, so read more there!

AWESOME episode!

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen

[STFanatic]

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen

That episode is one I have been waiting for since the sixties.

The Legion was my all time favorite since I learned to read.

[WickedJenn]

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen

Hi Glen!

First, thank you so much for posting in here. This episode was definitely one of my favorites, and I look forward to more under your direction! I cannot wait for "Legion".

:)

[geminis]

Hi Glen!

First, thank you so much for posting in here. This episode was definitely one of my favorites, and I look forward to more under your direction! I cannot wait for "Legion".

:)

Ditto! Legion will be a belated Christmas present and I can hardly wait until it is unwrapped in all it's glory! BTW, I have lost count of how many times I have watched the whole glorious entirety of Committed and have no plans to slow down, either. My social life is suffering because of my commitment to Committed. A more apropos name, there never was. :D

[eas]

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen

You're directing "Legion"??!?!??

Wow, my expectations were already pretty high for that episode, but now they've sky-rocketed. Fantastic news.

Can't wait!!! :)

[Jade4813]

^ Exactly.

I know I'm going to be on call in class tomorrow. I know that the case I'll be on call regarding is 15 pages long and on insider trading (a subject I have yet to grasp the way my professor is going to expect me to). I know I should be reading this case over and over until my eyes bleed.

So what am I actually doing?

You guessed it. Watching "Committed." Sigh.

[eas]

My social life is suffering because of my commitment to Committed. A more apropos name, there never was. :D

Well said.

In general, I've been very excited and happy with "SV" this whole season. It reminds me, as I keep saying, of how excited and obsessed I was back in S1.

[ms.c.]

This is a review of the episode that I agreed with. It touched on a lot of the problems this season. The reviewer does a good job calling the show out on big problems.

http://wrongwaygirl.blogspot.com/2008/10/sv-8-5-committed-review.html

[Fallen One]

I originally said that I knew Glen would knock Legion out of the park, but changed it to episode 15 when I went back and read the director's list in rumorville.

But hearing that he'll be doing Legion is FANTASTIC. A must-see episode just became must see-er.

[Dustmite]

The episode was directed beautifully. It's some of the writing that I have a problem with. That and the "tell, not show" method of storytelling.

[Firebunny]

The episode was directed beautifully. It's some of the writing that I have a problem with. That and the "tell, not show" method of storytelling. I know! It's incredibly frustrating to have characters tell us things, but have their actions speak otherwise.

In a show that was better written you'd know there was a reason for that (we're supposed to trust the actions and not the words), but the Smallville writers are so lazy.

The actors and directors deserve better material.

[tibbit78]

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen



You know, every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed are just as important and just as good as the next fan. It's not polite to ignore every other fan on Kryptonsite as if Triplet were better than any of us. Every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed is just as good as Triplet or anyone else.

[eas]

You know, every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed are just as important and just as good as the next fan. It's not polite to ignore every other fan on Kryptonsite as if Triplet were better than any of us. Every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed is just as good as Triplet or anyone else.

I think the reason Glen singled Triplet out is because she is K-Site's main reviewer. She kind of gives the 'official' K-site review that gets posted on the site... she's been doing it for years now & TPTB probably read her reviews. She's put a lot of thought and effort into them, so I think that's why he singled her out... I don't think it's a diss to the rest of us. The reason he even came out of lurking - the first time - was to thank us all for our kind words.

[Minela]

This is a review of the episode that I agreed with. It touched on a lot of the problems this season. The reviewer does a good job calling the show out on big problems.

http://wrongwaygirl.blogspot.com/2008/10/sv-8-5-committed-review.html

:lol: You're kidding right? Isn't a review supposed to be mostly unbies or at least pretend to not push a certain agenda *caugh* Chlois *caugh* Chlark *caugh*?

I mean, I don't care how much you hate Lois and want Chloe to get the pageant prize, why blatantly and deliberately misinterpret all of Lois' actions. I mean, she is genuinely concerned about her cousin and it comes off as her being what? Jealous, contrived, rude, etc? Come on.

I feel bad for people who can't take their blinder's off (may it be Chlark, Chlois, Clois, Clana or Chimmy) and enjoy the show for what it is. You're missing out.

I'm not gonna lie and say the Clois stuff didn't influence my voting, but my voting always goes by on solely how the episode made me feel at the time. I will say, I think I only voted "8" for 'Crimson' so I'm not entirely bias. :p

[Mr.Magic]

:lol: You're kidding right? Isn't a review supposed to be mostly unbies or at least pretend to not push a certain agenda *caugh* Chlois *caugh* Chlark *caugh*?

I have NEVER read an unbiased review of art. Usually the reviewer just explains why s/he doesn't like it.
You need to read reviews with your own bias intact.
For example, if some reviewer tells me he doesn't like a show/movie, because it is cheesy and campy I HAVE to see it, because I love camp+cheese.

[sebari77]

I've posted some very negative reactions to season 8 thus far, but, I have to hand it to the new show-runners for this episode. This was probably one of the 2 or 3 best episodes since "Reckoning" in season 5.

The lie-detector device finally erasing all doubt as to Chloe's true feelings, fantastic, well done. They had a situation where the 'Chimmy' relationship always seemed secondary, if for no other reason than the simple fact that there were so many dozens of programming hours devoted in the first 4 seasons to Chlark, and it would've been impossible to even up the scale. This was a great way to provide the insight without subjecting the audience to hours of boredom. Well done. Loose end dangling for years is finally, at long last, acceptably tied off. It was a distraction for the series, and now, it can move freely without constraint. Very well done.

Also, the Lois/Clark scenes are great this season; and turning the supposed revelation in the middle of the episode upside down with Lois's claim in the elevator (whether we believe it or not) - nice heightening of the tension. Plants the question in both of their heads and creates a framework to navigate their relationship going forward.

Well done. Well done. For once, I'm optimistic for the future of the series.

I only gave it an 8, had to deduct 2 notches because, I hate to beat this dead horse, but, I'll keep doing it as long as it's being shoe-horned into the series, Cassidy Freeman is an ice sculpture, devoid of expressiveness, carrying the albatross of an uninteresting character with a backstory we couldn't give a flip about. End this sad chapter soon, please.

[eas]

Sorry, this is off topic:


Every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed is just as good as Triplet or anyone else.

Hey, tibbit78, I got your message... I tried to respond, but you can't accept PMs for some reason.

Basically, I agree with what you're saying: I'm just trying to explain that I don't think Glen wanted us to feel bad... he just knows Triplet's work and not the rest of ours. :)

Back to the regularly scheduled topic....

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Also, the Lois/Clark scenes are great this season; and turning the supposed revelation in the middle of the episode upside down with Lois's claim in the elevator (whether we believe it or not) - nice heightening of the tension. Plants the question in both of their heads and creates a framework to navigate their relationship going forward.

Well done. Well done. For once, I'm optimistic for the future of the series.

I only gave it an 8, had to deduct 2 notches because, I hate to beat this dead horse, but, I'll keep doing it as long as it's being shoe-horned into the series, Cassidy Freeman is an ice sculpture, devoid of expressiveness, carrying the albatross of an uninteresting character with a backstory we couldn't give a flip about. End this sad chapter soon, please.

Very well said.

I can't say I agree about Tess, though. I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would. However, I do think that she's the ONE person on "SV" that I saw with no chemistry with Justin Hartley. That guy can generate heat with a pole, but he has none with Cassidy. It's bizarre, because she's been great with Mack, Durance, and Welling... in fact, her scenes with Durance are almost sizzling. But Hartley and Freeman didn't have it in "Toxic" or in "Committed".

[tibbit78]

[QUOTE=eas;4092216]Sorry, this is off topic:



Hey, tibbit78, I got your message... I tried to respond, but you can't accept PMs for some reason.

Basically, I agree with what you're saying: I'm just trying to explain that I don't think Glen wanted us to feel bad... he just knows Triplet's work and not the rest of ours. :)

Back to the regularly scheduled topic....

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Gee, thanks for telling me that. I didn't know that my pms were'nt working. I was wondering why when I pmed some of the people on Kryptonsite (I was wondering why I didn't get a response). There must be something wrong with my computer, then.

[dlreinke]

I know! It's incredibly frustrating to have characters tell us things, but have their actions speak otherwise.

In a show that was better written you'd know there was a reason for that (we're supposed to trust the actions and not the words), but the Smallville writers are so lazy.

The actors and directors deserve better material.

ITA! I hate poor writing! We deserve better. Smallville deserve better!:mad::(

[SalvadorianGirl]

Frankly this episode sucked. SV is becoming lazy with the writing. When you get lazy with the writing, it says to the audience "I simply don't care anymore. I'm just doing this for the check."

Instead of having things organically happening and slowly progessing, they used a plot contrivence to get things going. [Mod Edit] .

[geminis]

Sorry, this is off topic:



Hey, tibbit78, I got your message... I tried to respond, but you can't accept PMs for some reason.

Basically, I agree with what you're saying: I'm just trying to explain that I don't think Glen wanted us to feel bad... he just knows Triplet's work and not the rest of ours. :)

Back to the regularly scheduled topic....

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Very well said.

I can't say I agree about Tess, though. I'm enjoying her more than I thought I would. However, I do think that she's the ONE person on "SV" that I saw with no chemistry with Justin Hartley. That guy can generate heat with a pole, but he has none with Cassidy. It's bizarre, because she's been great with Mack, Durance, and Welling... in fact, her scenes with Durance are almost sizzling. But Hartley and Freeman didn't have it in "Toxic" or in "Committed".

I agree with your agreement and your disagreement. :lol:

I kind of like Tess as a frozen beya*** though. Kind of fitting for a conflicted evil lite Luthor wannabe.

[Fallen One]

Frankly this episode sucked. SV is becoming lazy with the writing. When you get lazy with the writing, it says to the audience "I simply don't care anymore. I'm just doing this for the check."

Instead of having things organically happening and slowly progessing, they used a plot contrivence to get things going. "
It was like the writers we're thinking
"We need to use that Lois is falling for Clark."
"How about we slowly show that so when the series finale happens, she's in love with him." [Mod Edit]
.

Wow, my virgin eyes.

[geminis]

Wow, my virgin eyes.

Oh, poor Cedric; let me phone Maxima for you. :lol:On second hand, better not. You may enjoy the beginning but not the end. Especially since it would spell your end. And I would miss your reviews.

[Kalista]

The episode was directed beautifully. It's some of the writing that I have a problem with. That and the "tell, not show" method of storytelling.

I agree about the direction of the episode. But the writing definitely left something to be desired. The plot was too contrived and some of the characters are unrecognizable from last season because the lightswitching.

[Tompouce]

Acronyms & Abbreviations Decoded (http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61706)
Just a little message to thank you again and tell you I am at work now and I wanted to put your link for abbreviations and all to help me in my job to speak well english and I realized is just for this forum , I am:rotfl:

[amalie]

I gave it a 10! It was so enjoyable and impactful that I couldn't bring myself to give it anything less. It may have been a little contrived at times but I loved it anyway,

Clark was great, much more mature than I think we've ever seen him. The clois was brilliantly done and I didn't even mind the Tess/Ollie and Chimmy scenes. This episode just left me wanting more!

[kris10]

it was a big 10 for clark and lois supporters and big fat negative 20 for chloe and clark fans....what was done with the fever letter made me want to vomit. didnt have to use the letter to close the door on chloe and clarks past not necessary.....thanks.

[Jade4813]

^ The Letter was in "Instinct" not "Committed." Not sure if you're confused on that.

[triplet]

Hi Triplet

I'm really glad you liked it. It means a lot coming from you. Everyone worked very hard on the episode.
I'm in the thick of it prepping my next episode Legion, so its been pretty busy around here. There are some pretty fantastic episodes coming up, so stay tuned!

All the best,

Glen

You're directing Legion?

Awesome! Can't wait to see it.

I've been having some internet connectivity problems at home, so if I don't have the Committed review done by the end of business today, I won't be able to email it to Craig until tomorrow, but I'm going to give it a 4.5.

Not perfect, but there was so much to love about this episode.... The Clark/Lois and Chloe/Jimmy stuff was all awesome.

I loved it. And David Lewis did a wondeful job as the Jeweler.

But they should have given the guy a name... Poor guy.

LOL!

:D

Great casting on that... He has a terrific speaking voice, perfect for a part where he spends a lot of the episode wearing a mask.

I couldn't find a thing on the writer, Bryan Q. Miller... He's a freelancer, right?

Pretty good for his pro writing debut....

[Chrisluvstommy]

Love that Bryan Q Miller he needs to write for CLois more often I haven't laughed that hard in ages !

[triplet]

You know, every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed are just as important and just as good as the next fan. It's not polite to ignore every other fan on Kryptonsite as if Triplet were better than any of us. Every fan that posts and says nice things about Committed is just as good as Triplet or anyone else.

Actually, that is completely unfair to accuse him of being partial.

I think he said that because we sorta know each other. He's PMd me before.

I like Glen's work a lot and have said a lot of nice things about him, so I think he's probably a fan of my reviews because of it!

LOL!

:D

Anyway, I had tried to reply to the PM you'd sent me about Glen posting in this thread, and I would have told you then that he'd PMd me before and thanked me for saying nice things about him, but you don't have PMs enabled or something and I couldn't send it.




I think the reason Glen singled Triplet out is because she is K-Site's main reviewer. She kind of gives the 'official' K-site review that gets posted on the site... she's been doing it for years now & TPTB probably read her reviews. She's put a lot of thought and effort into them, so I think that's why he singled her out... I don't think it's a diss to the rest of us. The reason he even came out of lurking - the first time - was to thank us all for our kind words.

They do read my reviews.

When Craig was up visiting the set last year, the reviews came up in conversation apparently between Mairzee, Craig and Glen.

[dancinqt21]

This has become one of my all time favorite episodes. I love the new direction the show is taking. GREAT episode. I'm so happy that Chloe is finally over Clark and getting her closure. I would have freaked if she got pissed at Jimmy for his little lie- esp compared to all of the big ones that she tells him. Jimmy and Chloe are so cute together, but there's still a part of me that really wants to see Chloe with Bart.

Oh Clark and Lois- this will go down as one of the best CLOIS episodes. Can I just say that Lois was a horrible liar at the end of the episode when she told Clark that she took the censor off her finger in between questions? Of course Clark is a total dumb dumb and believes her. Sometimes I really just wanna smack Clark in the middle of his forehead. I loved the drunken message on the answering machine- Lois was totally trashed lol.

I'm not really in to the whole Tess/Oliver thing, but I love Tess's character. You never know if she's good or bad.

I like that Lois is falling for Clark before Clark falls for her because it is usually the other way around in most mythos. Great start for season 8

[tibbit78]

Actually, that is completely unfair to accuse him of being partial.

I think he said that because we sorta know each other. He's PMd me before.

I like Glen's work a lot and have said a lot of nice things about him, so I think he's probably a fan of my reviews because of it!

LOL!

:D

Anyway, I had tried to reply to the PM you'd sent me about Glen posting in this thread, and I would have told you then that he'd PMd me before and thanked me for saying nice things about him, but you don't have PMs enabled or something and I couldn't send it.





They do read my reviews.

When Craig was up visiting the set last year, the reviews came up in conversation apparently between Mairzee, Craig and Glen.



I didn't mean to offend you, but it seems when I write nice reviews, no producer, director or cast member ever says, "Nice review, Joanne (Tibbit78)," and I think it's unfair for a producer, director or cast member to single some people out, and snub the rest. You're a great writer, better than I am, though. I complimented Glen, and I never get any pm's or emails, etc, thanking me.

[triplet]

I didn't mean to offend you, but it seems when I write nice reviews, no producer, director or cast member ever says, "Nice review, Joanne (Tibbit78)," and I think it's unfair for a producer, director or cast member to single some people out, and snub the rest. You're a great writer, better than I am, though. I complimented Glen, and I never get any pm's or emails, etc, thanking me.

I don't think you should take it personally.

I think the only reason I got the one PM I got from him and then him and Craig and Mairzee talking about my reviews is only because I'm the official reviewer and I happen to actually mention the crafts in my reviews, instead of just the writing and acting.

I don't think I've ever read a single review from another site that mentions that kind of stuff.

I used to work in theatre and my husband still does. My husband is a lighting designer and he hardly ever gets mentioned in reviews of the shows he designs.

It's a complete affirmation of the work you do when you are mentioned in reviews.

I was a film major in college and have worked in theatre and was a production assistant at a local ABC affiliate for awhile, so I have a fairly good idea what goes into designing or shooting a show even though I've never worked on one.

I think that background makes me a bit different from other reviewers because most are writers or enthusiastic fans, which isn't of course a bad thing, but I notice things that other people don't.

I get that all the time in the PMs other fans send me, they were glad I mentioned this thing or that thing because they hadn't known about that aspect or hadn't thought of it that way, etc.

I think I have a slightly different perspective because of my background, which is why I think Craig cuts me some slack when I sometimes make him wait for more than a week before I submit my reviews.

My reviews are more comprehensive than most since they deal with more than just the writing and acting. A lot of online reviews actually aren't reviews at all, they're essentially recaps of the show with a few editorial comments thrown in. That's part of the reason I don't recap the episode in my reviews anymore, but when I did that's why I had it as a seperate section.

Just because of all that, yeah, I do sometimes get attention, but that doesn't make my opinions and reviews any more, or any less, valid than anyone else's.

I was lucky enough to get the chance to write the reviews here and I've done pretty well, even improved my writing a fair bit (which was part of why I started in the first place). And yeah, I've gotten some attention, but I hope you don't think that I believe that makes me better than you or anyone else.

I don't think that Glen thinks that either.

(okay, this reply was far longer than I had intended.... but I guess the bottom line is don't take Glen "singling" me out as a personal diss to you. I'm sure he didn't intend it that way....)

[tibbit78]

I don't think you should take it personally.

I think the only reason I got the one PM I got from him and then him and Craig and Mairzee talking about my reviews is only because I'm the official reviewer and I happen to actually mention the crafts in my reviews, instead of just the writing and acting.

I don't think I've ever read a single review from another site that mentions that kind of stuff.

I used to work in theatre and my husband still does. My husband is a lighting designer and he hardly ever gets mentioned in reviews of the shows he designs.

It's a complete affirmation of the work you do when you are mentioned in reviews.

I was a film major in college and have worked in theatre and was a production assistant at a local ABC affiliate for awhile, so I have a fairly good idea what goes into designing or shooting a show even though I've never worked on one.

I think that background makes me a bit different from other reviewers because most are writers or enthusiastic fans, which isn't of course a bad thing, but I notice things that other people don't.

I get that all the time in the PMs other fans send me, they were glad I mentioned this thing or that thing because they hadn't known about that aspect or hadn't thought of it that way, etc.

I think I have a slightly different perspective because of my background, which is why I think Craig cuts me some slack when I sometimes make him wait for more than a week before I submit my reviews.

My reviews are more comprehensive than most since they deal with more than just the writing and acting. A lot of online reviews actually aren't reviews at all, they're essentially recaps of the show with a few editorial comments thrown in. That's part of the reason I don't recap the episode in my reviews anymore, but when I did that's why I had it as a seperate section.

Just because of all that, yeah, I do sometimes get attention, but that doesn't make my opinions and reviews any more, or any less, valid than anyone else's.

I was lucky enough to get the chance to write the reviews here and I've done pretty well, even improved my writing a fair bit (which was part of why I started in the first place). And yeah, I've gotten some attention, but I hope you don't think that I believe that makes me better than you or anyone else.

I don't think that Glen thinks that either.

(okay, this reply was far longer than I had intended.... but I guess the bottom line is don't take Glen "singling" me out as a personal diss to you. I'm sure he didn't intend it that way....)



Thanks, Triplet. I understand now.

[triplet]

Thanks, Triplet. I understand now.

You're welcome, and check your settings in the user CP.

I was going to reply to your PM, I hope you don't think I wasn't, but couldn't.

You're not the only one I've had that problem with.

I don't always reply to PMs, but I do read them all, so it'd be nice if I could reply if I choose to do so.

[tibbit78]

You're welcome, and check your settings in the user CP.

I was going to reply to your PM, I hope you don't think I wasn't, but couldn't.

You're not the only one I've had that problem with.

I don't always reply to PMs, but I do read them all, so it'd be nice if I could reply if I choose to do so.


Thanks for telling me about checking my settings in the user CP. (I accidentally checked on recieve private messages from buddly list only). It's all set now. Thanks, Triplet for telling me this.

[triplet]

Thanks for telling me about checking my settings in the user CP. (I accidentally checked on recieve private messages from buddly list only). It's all set now. Thanks, Triplet for telling me this.

Uhm, still not working....

:confused:

[SmallvilleGirl101]

I Loved this episode, but I didnt like how lois came up with that lame excuse, but i still gave it a 10 :o

[tibbit78]

Uhm, still not working....

:confused:



Triplet:

I just sent you a private message. I think it works now.

I think my private messages may be working now. I just sent out a private message, and it didn't reject it with a message (yours is set up to only accept people on your buddy list). That warning didn't come up at all when I sent out a private mesage. It's about your Committed review. Your review was awesome!

[jqedward]

I loved this epsiode. Finally some Clois action. Now that the whole Clana operetta is over!

[Sifaria]

I had to ask because I haven't enjoyed an eppie like this since "Crusade" and "Gone" waaaay back in Season 4! LOVE, LOVE, LOOOOOVE the Clois this season!!! ROTFL! What fun! And after all the bleakness of Season 6 and 7, it's very much a welcome relief!

I was with Lois - until "Committed" I never saw it between Jimmy and Chloe. I always figured her more for Lex's league (not as a baddie, but as a brilliant mind), but finally in "Committed" I saw it. Chloe really loves Jimmy. And what a relief to have that heinous fever letter put to rest in such a great way that doesn't denigrate either character! Kudos, peeps!!

The difficulty in this ep (and being an Ollie fan, I hate to say it) was the whole business between Ollie and Tess. I guess I didn't see him as all that attached to her now that he'd make a doormat of himself like that. And OUCH, can you say balls of solid steel? cuz that's what Tess Mercer must have to be so very cold. YEOWCH!

LOVE "Committed" and I've been playing it over and over on my iPod since. Hope we've got more like this coming up!!! WAH HOO!!!! Let's here it for FUN!:D:D:D:rotfl:

[eas]

I had to ask because I haven't enjoyed an eppie like this since "Crusade" and "Gone" waaaay back in Season 4! LOVE, LOVE, LOOOOOVE the Clois this season!!! ROTFL! What fun! And after all the bleakness of Season 6 and 7, it's very much a welcome relief!

I agree!!! Especially the bolded part.

[hyped4lnc]

This was my first time watching Smallville since the beginning of the first season. Let's just say, this episode got me hooked. I even went out and rented the first three seasons. I didn't know the history between Oliver and Lois until I started to lurk on this forum. Now the awkwardness in that scene makes more sense.

[Super Maverick]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc248/coachryudo/committedcloisdrunkst6.gif

[eas]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc248/coachryudo/committedcloisdrunkst6.gif

Never.gets.old. :)

[Smallvillerox24]

I gave it a 9. It wasnt Smallville's best, but it definitely wasnt Smallville's worst. I enjoyed it a lot more than the previous episodes. It did keep me holding on to the edge of my chair. Although I was really hoping that Clark would answer the question, but we dont always get what we want. Now do we?

Lets just say I liked it enough to download it from iTunes.

[Crouching Lurker]

I really loved this episode, I gave it a 10.

Chloe/Jimmy-I cared about them for the first time since watching the show again. I'm really rooting for them now and I'm glad that Chloe is over Clark and moving on with her life.

Lois/Clark-Their scenes are why I gave this episode a 10. Tom and Erica have terrific chemistry and a playfulness that's refreshing. Lois was so lying in the last scene when she said she slipped the sensor off her finger. If that were true all she would have had to say is no in response to Lunatic's question. Instead she had to say yes because she didn't want him to get electrocuted again, lol. And as usual Clark is too dense to connect the dots. Oh well, that's why it's a cat and mouse game. :D

Tess/Ollie- They're watchable. I've kind of like the idea of them since Toxic.

Crazy/Kryptonite Bracelet-Pure ham-handed plot driven silliness. But it got Lois to admit the truth so, whatevers. :rolleyes:

Thing that made me go hmm-Why did Clark get shocked when asked if she'd ever cheated on Clark? Unless her heart already belongs to Clark and dating around is, on some level, an attempt to make him jealous. That's about the only way it would make sense. Hmm I'm going to read some threads on this, if there are any, see what others think.

[jacqui50]

I have been a fan of Smallville since season one. But I thought it jumped the shark when they introduced Lois Lane a few seasons back. I used to follow every episode but after Lois it all went dull. I occasionally see the episodes but the thrill is gone.

This episode was shown yesterday in my country. I have to say I was a Chlark shipper. I think this episode is a lame attempt to show the fans that Chloe is really committed to Jimmy. I know you do not forget your first love and also you grow out of it... But it baffles me how Jimmy got to be number one in Chloe's life in a couple of years, with that many fights among them, that much mistrust. I just hated the blatant way in which the writers are trying to feed us with the new Clois relationship and completely destroying the Chlark that endured at least 5 years.

Hated it, hated it, hated it. I was not really following the series in the last year. But this episode marked my goodbye.

[F..l]

I think committed is one of best epizode.I love it ! 10 is little I gave 11 :Dhttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3047/teasing5ge.gif

[Fallen One]

Thanks Joanne. The book plans have been put on the backburner for now. Mostly because no one would buy it. I recently watched Committed again and it gets better everytime I see it. Reviewing it was a blast. Thanks for the warm thoughts. :D

[tibbit78]

Thanks Joanne. The book plans have been put on the backburner for now. Mostly because no one would buy it. I recently watched Committed again and it gets better everytime I see it. Reviewing it was a blast. Thanks for the warm thoughts. :D



Your welcome, Cedric. Don't be so negative. Your book would be on the best seller list.

[meteorfreak219]

clark and lois sitting in atree k-i-s-s-i-n-g...

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I have been a fan of Smallville since season one. But I thought it jumped the shark when they introduced Lois Lane a few seasons back. I used to follow every episode but after Lois it all went dull. I occasionally see the episodes but the thrill is gone.

This episode was shown yesterday in my country. I have to say I was a Chlark shipper. I think this episode is a lame attempt to show the fans that Chloe is really committed to Jimmy. I know you do not forget your first love and also you grow out of it... But it baffles me how Jimmy got to be number one in Chloe's life in a couple of years, with that many fights among them, that much mistrust. I just hated the blatant way in which the writers are trying to feed us with the new Clois relationship and completely destroying the Chlark that endured at least 5 years.

Hated it, hated it, hated it. I was not really following the series in the last year. But this episode marked my goodbye.

SAY WHAAAAT?!:)

[Justin Murad]

I gave 10... :) This is one of my favories...

[Night_Hawk90]

recycled plot, again with the kryptonite, and ofcourse the high usage of lightswitching just a horrible episode.

[chinna]

I loved that episode and the actors. Erica and Tom really did a great job as usual. This is my favourite Lois and Clark and also my fave on Tv.
Lois wasn't lying when she answered the question the psycho asked her. The camera even zoomed in on the machine showing that it was still working. It wouldn't have if she had slipped it off and the man would have seen that. The look on their faces before and during the elevator scene was priceless. Those two sure do have alot of chemistry.
I am really happy with the producers. They have given me back my favourite show. For awhile i had stopped watching but now i am back. Good job.

[Clark/Lois-fan]

Hi chinna and welcome to K-site :D

I agree so much with your post. This episode is GOLD IMO.

[blackcelebration]

Up until the 'Lana arc from hell' I'd place this Shipper Porn episode, with idiotic Saw Rip off Plot as one of the worst episodes of the Season.

2/10

[Queenrocks77]

It was about an 8

[Joe90]

'Cor Blimey'...Oh well better late than never, GREAT episode with Clark/Clois, and you know WHAT.? First time we See/Hear Clois come to terms with her feelings towards Clark.
O.K. i hear ya all, she was being sort-off in a electric chair...:lol:

Buut ohh my god, shes gotta stop looking with that So HOT eyes of hers..if you know what i mean.;)

Totally Loved it..Season 8 has been the Best SV of all time

[mrs.clark.kent]

this is my favorite season 8 episode..
lois and clark looked so awesome in this show..
the chemistry is soo good, they make me smile whenever i see them together..

10 out 10 on this one.. :)

[SGuthrie27]

Eh, this one was "just all right with me," as Randy Jackson would say on American Idol. The Clois scenes were really good, even coming from a Chlarker. They had some great banter and humorous moments, and that last conversation while strapped in those electric chairs was intense and intriguing, making you wonder exactly how much of what Lois said was true. The Chimmy stuff was cute, but then again, I've never really been much of a Chimmy shipper, so while I'm glad they're both still alive and apparently SOOOOOO in love, it still was just "okay."

--SGuthrie ><>' :)--

[loislanechick]

Still my favourite episode.

[lois346]

I didn't see this episode yet but I think they're supposed to have a re-run of it on Thursday. I can't wait!

[rockyshadow]

I liked this episode. I liked the scene between Clark and Lois at the farm as well as the one in the elevator. Chloe and Jimmy were so cute in this one, too bad everything went up in flames for Chimmy later. The scene in the jewelry store between Clois and Oliver was so funny. This episode had some of my favorite lines of the series.

[Cloisfan_90]

Best Clois Episode so far..!! Can't wait to another episodes like this..!!

[Adrianna]

Hi everyone. I'm new to Smallville and this is the first episode I ever saw and it's the reason why I gave the series a real chance and now I do call myself a fan. I loved the chemistry between Lois and Clark and just really enjoyed the atmosphere of the episode. I also loved Chloe and Jimmy! I gave this episode a 10. It's my favorite one from seasons 4-8, which I have just watched back to back. :)

[FanofTom]

9
As a previous Clana fan I've totally run off to the Clois camp.
Erica had me convinced that she had true feelings for Clark.
I loved how astonished Clark was and later, in the elevator he couldn't mask first his smirk, later his disappointment.
I'm convinced that Lois lied in the end. She has feelings for Clark but she doesn't want him to know (yet)

[4815162342LOST]

i saw this again a week or two ago.
absolute rubbish. Cheesy cheese cheese all episode. and Lois now out of absolutely knowhere loves Clark, after being given a lie detector test ffs, it is just pathetic writing.

Seriously and people complain about the Lana arc. People i know who watch Smallville casually, were laughing at how bad this was, my god, it's right up there with Stiletto, Injustice and Power.

[Nimkong]

This episode is good.Liked the plot,chloe and jimmy was cute and lois's answer to the lie detector was awsome!

[biggumt]

i didn't like this episode. I mean who cares if chloe REALLY loves jimmy and Jimmy REALLY loves chloe. basically this was an episode where we get to see who loves who. what a waste.

[jwalk3377]

I loved the episode and give it a 9. I would have given it a 10 but when Lois said "yes" to loving Clark, I found this to be unbelievable. In the prior episode "Toxic" Ollie was poisoned and Lois said she couldn't hold up her end of the bargain either when she let Ollie go "To save the World". This told me she still had strong feelings for Oliver. Also, there has never been a defining episode (Season 6 she had Oliver, Season7 unfortunately she had Grant) where Lois considered Clark anything more than a friend. Being under the influence of magic or red-k does not count.

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9. While I absolutely loved this episode in almost every way possible! I have to remove one point because I'm not all that thrilled with how quickly Lois is suddenly in 'Love' with Clark. Its a little rushed for me, but I'm still loving every second of it.

I agree (watch Seasons 6 and 7, Season 8 episode 3 "Toxic"). Lois still has feelings for Oliver. I think TPTB were trying to rush the Lois loves Clark relationship because they pretty much destroyed it in the last 2 seasons.

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I totally respect your opinion but offer the following for your humble consideration:

Lois and Clark have known each other four years now and even lived under the same roof for a spell. Lois has a bond with both of Clark's parents that no other character on the show has, not even Lana who Clark was in love since the first grade.

The way Clark and Lois "banter" with each other has been a cover-up for their mutual attraction for each other since they first met four years ago. I say this because they have always been this way with each other and are not this way with anyone else on the show, not even their ex's, Lana and Ollie. Ollie pointed this (the sarcasm masking underlying sexual tension) out to them in season six. Chloe sensed it in season four. Even Lana, in season four said that the "best ones always start out this way" regarding Clark's sheer annoyance at Lois.

For about a month now, Clark and Lois have been working side by side at the Daily Planet. They work long hours and go undercover investigating stories together that end up being really intense. Clark secretly and not so secretly rescues Lois on a regular basis. How many times can you swoop in and rescue a woman before you start to have feelings for her? Ditto, for the damsel-in-distress.

And, I am not even going to mention what these two look like because everyone on Smallville is drop-dead gorgeous, so in comparison, they are just slightly more attractive than normal.

You're right about the banter between Lois and Clark (more so in Seasons 4 and 5, very little in season 6 and almost none in season 7). This banter did not indicate underlying love because Clark was gaga over Lana during this period. To me the Banter was more about becoming friends than lovers. This episode would have been more believable (Lois saying "Yes" to loving Clark) had we not seen episode 3 (Toxic) where Lois practically admits to making a mistake when she let Oliver go. She was crazy about Oliver and suddenly she now Loves Clark. IMO, you need to lay some groundwork for this besides friendly Lois and Clark banter.

[jwalk3377]

People, have diferent reasons to love things and award them excellence, you may not agree but it doesnt make them any less valid.

See, first of all, all of us can vote, rate and like or love an episode as much as we want, secondly diferent reasons merit equal qualifications, We can give 10 to Rossetta cause Clark finally learns where he´s from, excellent performances, great fx and then give a 10 to Commited cause of the great dialogs, great acting, excellent direction and funny-lighthearted nature (specially after 1 and a half seasons of overwhelming angst), see two diferent reasons to award a ten non better than the other, take Titanic for example, it got as many OScars and awards as Ben Hur, can we actually compare them, in message, depth or intelectually?? No, but the context in which both played was also diferent.

I rated Commitment a 10, mostly because of Clark, sure I love Clois, no denying it, but even if all romance had been severed I would have still loved it, Clark using superbreath, Clark being chivalrous, heroic, supermanly, figuer´s things out on his own, smart, the way he got himself and Lois out of that sticky situation, with out needed the help of someone, being asertive, ALL his relationships were mature, not only about Lois but with Chloe and Jimmy as well, he saved the day with his thoughtfull speach, in general Clark, seemed more mature. But mostly I gave it a ten cause it showed me, that they are indeed Commited (pun intended) to this new direction they´ve taken with Clark, that I can indeed expect Clark at full hero mode from now on and that just like superman he will get himself out of trouble using his own wits, yes it´s been kind of a lightswitch, but is it the new showrunner´s fault?? Of course not, we are thankfull to AlMiles for creating the show but they dragged everything for too long, now here come 4 new producers who have 1, 2 season´s tops to put Clark where he´s supposed to be, its not that they are moving too fast with Clark and Clois, its that it had been stagnant for too long thanks to the previous showrunners, things had to be sped up, or time wouldnt have been enough.

ETA: I will no longer discuss this subject, as I just saw the mods had to intervene, how ever Im not editing out for two reasons, one, its not an attack towards anyone and two, I resent the implication that Im a simpleminded shipper, who only votes based on that and I need to make my point clear.

I have to agree. The Lex, Lana, Clark triangle lasted probably 2 seasons to long and now the producers are playing catch up in hopes that they have enough time to bring Lois and Clark together as well as turn Clark into Superman.

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I think he was 14...I because I'm pretty sure Clark's b-day is in the Spring...They celebrated it in S5 in the spring...And Lois said something about Clark finally being Legal in 'Apocalypse' (which also air in the spring time)...So I believe he was 14 going on 15...
So he should be 21 going on 22...Like I said they made him a youngen for some reason...

In S4 he was a senior in High School which would probably make him possibly 18 when he graduated. Now in S8 (4 years later), he could be 22 going on 23 depending on when birth date is.

[ck123]

the best

[Detorio]

LOVED IT!
Purely for the Lois + Clark lie detector scene (ofcourse!)
Totally awesome!

The intensity of that scene! Yeeeeeee-ha!
Gawdayum Lois had me reeling!
The way she delays the answer... Tears welling up... The barely audible three letter answer of 'Yes'... Clark's reaction :)

Really neat episode!
Oh and the elevator scene!
Goldddd!

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