TV Ratings for "Committed"

[Routh]

Discuss the TV ratings for Committed here!

[6-Super-Man -5]

4 Million or higher.

[bizzaroboy9]

at least from 4.10 to maybe 4.30 million viewers

[THE"Lurker"]

4 million most definately

[cksidekick]

4.25 million...i think ratings will go up a bit...

[skylar]

I really hope for a 4.28 or higher.

[SparkleforSmallville]

I'm hoping we can keep the over 4 mil rating.

I'll guess 4.15 mil., and hope for higher:)

[Smallville6]

I'm kind of worried though. After Instinct, a whooooole bunch of Chlarkers said they werent gonna watch the show to protest against Clois *rolls eyes*
Hopefully it wont affect the ratings!

[RedKRules]

What?? I am not going to watch to protest Clois, they are not even close to bother me, but I will protest against the cheap, lame storyline over the letter, when it could had been perfectly AVOIDED!

[Smallville6]

^Yeah, I dont blame Chlarkers for being pissed about that though!
I used to like Chlark, and I would be pissed too!
But on TWoP, alot of Chlarkers said they'd stop watching *shrugs*
I know, not all of them will. I just hope the ones that have given up on the show doesnt give it bad ratings.

[RedKRules]

I will watch after Davis comes back, that for sure :D

[6-Super-Man -5]

I was a Chlarker, but now I'm a Cloiser, and I'm so excited for this episode.

[Smallville6]

Yeah RedKRules, Davis is a veeery good reason to watch!
And I find myself to be Chloom fan (except for him being a monser and all...:eek:)
But take the whole pschopathic, murdering monster out of the picture and he's a very charming guy!! :lol:

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I was a Chlarker, but now I'm a Cloiser, and I'm so excited for this episode.

Same here :)
I still like the Chlark relationship, I just like the friendship better.
And Clois is my OTP now :D

[6-Super-Man -5]

Same here :)
I still like the Chlark relationship, I just like the friendship better.
And Clois is my OTP now :D

Yeah, I prefer them as friends only.

[OneShotClois]

Hopefully the ratings will stay over 4 million.


I was a Chlarker, but now I'm a Cloiser, and I'm so excited for this episode.


Same here :)
I still like the Chlark relationship, I just like the friendship better.
And Clois is my OTP now :D

Welcome aboard the Clois train! :D

[ClarkyBoy14]

Hopefully Smallville can stay above four million viewers again tonight. One thing that's going to be easier is that baseball won't be on FOX tonight.

I believe that, no matter what, Smallville will be the CW's most watched program of the week, though. If it isn't, then Smallville will have gone below 3.5 million viewers.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Welcome aboard the Clois train! :D

Thank you, its been a wonderful ride so far! :D

[stenochick]

happy viewing everyone. I am done with my online night class and am logging off for the day. See you all tomorrow to discuss Committed!!!

[ClarkyBoy14]

Goodbye! Hope you enjoy the episode! :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

happy viewing everyone. I am done with my online night class and am logging off for the day. See you all tomorrow to discuss Committed!!!

I'll be on to discuss!

[mof123]

Im hoping 4.50 or even 5 million
i mean come on!!!
with last weeks episode we have to get something, right???

Happy viewing to everyone
Love you guys!!!!!!

[RedKRules]

3 millions and something!

[silverdragon]

i say 4.05 Mil

[Smallville6]

Hopefully the ratings will stay over 4 million.





Welcome aboard the Clois train! :D

lol, thanks!
I've been aboard for a few years now though!
I stopped liking Chlark after season 5 tbh :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

I stopped liking Clark after season 5 tbh :)

Wow, so who's your favorite character now? Lois?

[Karafan1]

It's up against baseball again this week so the numbers might be the same as last week..

[Dor el]

Can they count our rewatches as separate viewings in the ratings? haha

If only the CW would let potential viewers know ahead of time that an excellent episode is in the cards. Guess that's too radical a thought.

[iamcloisfan]

hi everyone especially cloisers!

my bet is that it will be higher than last week's ratings...:)

[bartez]

I hope that will be 4,4 mln :D

[stenochick]

Is season 8 of Smallville the best kept secret on television, or what?

[mof123]

hahahahahahha
it probably is

[JAMHEXXX]

Over at the CW, both Smallville (#4: 2.8/ 5, down 18 percent) and Supernatural (#5: 2.0/ 3, down 17 percent) continue to erode from one year earlier

[costas22]

Instinct did 2.9 on the early ones so i suppose that the final number will be just over or just under 4mil.The question is where we will go from here.Prey looks very good but after 2 romance-based episodes it could be hard to draw some people back

[JAMHEXXX]

Instinct ended up with a 2.6. Committed will be up!

I'm guessing 4.436 million.

[myankskent]

Obviously Smallville is going to be down at this point compared to last season. The key is to stay in the 4 million range that way when a big episode comes along, they have a shot at 5 million.

[eas]

As long as it's around 4 mil, we're golden... because it seems that 4 is the average that "SV" has to maintain this season. Any standard episode that pulls in 4 mil will be considered good ratings.

[Québec]

I'm guessing 4.3 million

[mof123]

so does anyone know what the actual numbers are??

[JAMHEXXX]

Fast nationals:

CW’s Smallville (Viewers: 4.15 million; A18-49: 1.7/ 5)

[myankskent]

That's an increase from last week. The finals for "Instinct" were 4.12 million and we could still see an increase in the finals for "Committed".

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Yay!!
I know this is childish of me but..[MOD EDIT]:p

[eas]

That's an increase from last week. The finals for "Instinct" were 4.12 million and we could still see an increase in the finals for "Committed".

:D :D :D

[Kevin24]

Yay!!
I know this is childish of me but.. [MOD EDIT]

LOL, I'm with you on that one!!

[SparkleforSmallville]

:lol: I guessed it right on the nose 4.15. I'm so happy it stayed over 4 mil.

It was an Awesome episode! Tom's facial expressions in the "tolerating Lois" scenes, are right on!

[costas22]

Brilliant!Instinct was a great episode and it kept viewers hooked for Committed.Last night's episode wasn't quite as good and i hope that this won't make viewers miss Prey.I think Prey will be a pivotal episode for the rest first half of the season.But 4.15(and possibly even higher) is fantastic.Congrats to PS3 who have kept the product fresh and enjoyable.

[JAMHEXXX]

Half hour breakdown:




Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.93 m, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.37 m, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

[DGirlLois4Clark]

Oops. I guess I said the wrong thing:lol:
I am so happy the rating are going up:D

[myankskent]

That's a pretty big increase for the second half of the show.

[eas]

Brilliant!Instinct was a great episode and it kept viewers hooked for Committed.Last night's episode wasn't quite as good and i hope that this won't make viewers miss Prey.I think Prey will be a pivotal episode for the rest first half of the season.But 4.15(and possibly even higher) is fantastic.Congrats to PS3 who have kept the product fresh and enjoyable.

You think people tuned into "Committed" because of "Instinct"? You don't think that the promos for "Committed" had anything to do with it's success? Also, you thought that last week's episode was better than this week? To me, this week was just "Part Two" of last week's episode. The plot just carried over seamlessly and built one the story that began last week.

I can of see these two episodes like a "Part One" and "Part Two" kind of a deal.

[Kevin24]

So the real ratings are the average between the two half hours?

[eas]

So the real ratings are the average between the two half hours?

Yes.

[JAMHEXXX]

So the real ratings are the average between the two half hours?

Yes.

[Kevin24]

Yes.


Yes.


Thank you both for answering my question :) That was a pretty big increase between the first half hour and the second. That makes me think that Lois and Clark are what people want to see more of.

I do have another question....Is Lois in "Prey" :confused:

[eas]

I do have another question....Is Lois in "Prey" :confused:

Nope.

[Québec]

Considering many people had threatened to stop watching the show after "Instinct", it's impressive to see an increase on "Committed"

[eas]

Thank you both for answering my question :) That was a pretty big increase between the first half hour and the second. That makes me think that Lois and Clark are what people want to see more of.

Well, from what I've understood, the first half hour is measured at a point within the first 5 minutes of the episode. The last half hour is measured at a point about 5 minutes from the end of the episode. The reason they average it out is so that can measure who watched from beginning to end, in a manner of speaking.

So, really, I think that the viewers in the 2nd half hour are closer to the the "real" figures... because some folks don't tune in the first couple of minutes (right at 8:00, before the credits).

This is why Supernatural's ratings are usually higher in the first half than the second half... folks from Smallville carry over into their ratings and beef up the first half.

This is why every network's toughest call is what show will lead their prime-time. The show that gets the 8:00pm slot is usually the one they have the most confidence in, because they believe that it'll have generate enough interest with viewers to carry over to the other shows.

Of course, as Tivo/DVR usage increases, the networks are finding that viewers have less of a tendency to just stick with one channel throughout the night. So, they're scrambling to figure out ways to get around that. That's why you see a lot of them do things like 'go over" by 1 or two minutes into the next hour. That allows them to grab ratings for an episode of Show B, even though those are viewers who were watching Show A. It artificially inflates the ratings and allows them to charge more for advertising. NBC was very bad about this. And, now, so is ABC.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Wow! Supernatural did awful! #5 - 3.06 mil

In defense of SN, It was up against new episodes of CSI, GA, SNL, Office and KN. Wow!

Smallville beat "Hole in the Wall" :lol: Have you seen it! OMG, It's horrible. and I 've watched "Wipeout" a few times, didn't think anything could be worse than that:lol:

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/426105761

Marc Berman said "and the aging Smallville". Why can't he give SV props for gaining in the ratings from last week! What is up with MB and Smallville?

[BadToad]

I'm really thrilled that SV's numbers actually went up a bit. Thats great :) I'm not attributing the ratings to anything other then the fact that I think a lot of viewers just watch SV for what it is, and for Clark, and they take things in stride in a way that on-line viewers generally don't, IMO.

[tariksam]

The finals then will be around 4.19/4.2 million

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yes we're still in the 4 millions, too bad Lois isn't in "Prey."
I wanna see some awkward talks between them, talking about their relationship... well there is always the remaining episodes I guess... :)

[Kevin24]

Well, from what I've understood, the first half hour is measured at a point within the first 5 minutes of the episode. The last half hour is measured at a point about 5 minutes from the end of the episode. The reason they average it out is so that can measure who watched from beginning to end, in a manner of speaking.

So, really, I think that the viewers in the 2nd half hour are closer to the the "real" figures... because some folks don't tune in the first couple of minutes (right at 8:00, before the credits).

This is why Supernatural's ratings are usually higher in the first half than the second half... folks from Smallville carry over into their ratings and beef up the first half.

This is why every network's toughest call is what show will lead their prime-time. The show that gets the 8:00pm slot is usually the one they have the most confidence in, because they believe that it'll have generate enough interest with viewers to carry over to the other shows.

Of course, as Tivo/DVR usage increases, the networks are finding that viewers have less of a tendency to just stick with one channel throughout the night. So, they're scrambling to figure out ways to get around that. That's why you see a lot of them do things like 'go over" by 1 or two minutes into the next hour. That allows them to grab ratings for an episode of Show B, even though those are viewers who were watching Show A. It artificially inflates the ratings and allows them to charge more for advertising. NBC was very bad about this. And, now, so is ABC.

Wow, thanks for the in depth breakdown! I never knew how TV ratings worked. This pretty much explains everything I've always wondered about. There is one thing I'm confused about tho.....Does that mean people have to watch all the way through the end credits for their viewership to count in the ratings?

[JAMHEXXX]

Any sort of upward trend in the ratings for a show in its Eighth season is exceptional. Smallville might not get the gender age specific demos that Dawn covets but it is still the highest rated show on the CW.

[6-Super-Man -5]

If Season Eight stays at 4 million or higher, I am very sure a ninth season will happen.

[eas]

Wow, thanks for the in depth breakdown! I never knew how TV ratings worked. This pretty much explains everything I've always wondered about. There is one thing I'm confused about tho.....Does that mean people have to watch all the way through the end credits for their viewership to count in the ratings?

Yes, it could very well mean that. That's why -- I don't know if you've noticed - a lot of the networks use the credits part to do "next week's previews". They'll scrunch up the credits to one side (either below or on the side) and use the rest of the screen to give either a preview of the upcoming show, or a preview of the next week's episode. This helps prevent folks from switching over "too early" and helps them two ways: 1, folks may carry-over into the next show more easily and (2) they'll make sure they get those folks in the second half hour ratings calculation.

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If Season Eight stays at 4 million or higher, I am very sure a ninth season will happen.

IF Welling agrees to stay on. Given the numbers we're seeing, I have no doubt that the CW will give them S9 and I have no doubt that PS3 want a S9... but, honestly, it's about what Welling wants, at this stage.

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Any sort of upward trend in the ratings for a show in its Eighth season is exceptional. Smallville might not get the gender age specific demos that Dawn covets but it is still the highest rated show on the CW.

Yeah, I'm rather amazed at this season's ratings. I think that "SV" is exceeding everyone's expectations and I can't imagine that D.O. will turn a blind eye to it. The woman's a moron, but can she be THAT much of a moron?

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Yes we're still in the 4 millions, too bad Lois isn't in "Prey."
I wanna see some awkward talks between them, talking about their relationship... well there is always the remaining episodes I guess... :)

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm kind of glad that Lois isn't in "Prey". After these two last "heavy Clois" episodes, I feel like we need a break (and so does Clark LOL) and we need to focus a bit on Davis and what's going with him & some other arcs... I'm ready to take a step back and just let Clois sit on the back burner for a bit. So, I think that PS3 were actually pretty smart to keep Durance out of the next one.

[Poweranimals]

Considering many people had threatened to stop watching the show after "Instinct", it's impressive to see an increase on "Committed"

When did that happen?

[Kevin24]

Yes, it could very well mean that. That's why -- I don't know if you've noticed - a lot of the networks use the credits part to do "next week's previews". They'll scrunch up the credits to one side (either below or on the side) and use the rest of the screen to give either a preview of the upcoming show, or a preview of the next week's episode. This helps prevent folks from switching over "too early" and helps them two ways: 1, folks may carry-over into the next show more easily and (2) they'll make sure they get those folks in the second half hour ratings calculation.

That is the only reason I stay on during the credits because of the previews for the next epsiode. Is there any other reason to watch the credits other then for previews?

LOL, I'm sure some people like to see them but I'm not one of those people who appreciate credits unless something happens during or after them.

Thanks for the information on TV ratings. I learned something today thanks to you Eas:)

[costas22]

You think people tuned into "Committed" because of "Instinct"? You don't think that the promos for "Committed" had anything to do with it's success? Also, you thought that last week's episode was better than this week? To me, this week was just "Part Two" of last week's episode. The plot just carried over seamlessly and built one the story that began last week.

I can of see these two episodes like a "Part One" and "Part Two" kind of a deal.

Committed didn't have the best promotion.It didn't even have a director's cut.I will explain to you my theory.I noticed a pattern last year when i started to pay notice to the ratings on a weekly basis.When an episode was good,the next episode would experience a spike in it's rating as a result.If the epidose was average then next episode's rating would drop even if it was better.I agree with you that Instinct and Committed felt like a two-parter,but personally i liked Instinct more.Not that i didn't like Committed.I think next week will be interesting.Since there will be no Clois it will a good chance to see how that relationship(in it's season 8 format) affects the ratings.

[individuall]

I'm SO happy the ratings went up! :D

have we got the finals in yet? Oh, I can't wait!

YAY SV! :)

[JAMHEXXX]

So the real ratings are the average between the two half hours?


I'm SO happy the ratings went up! :D

have we got the finals in yet? Oh, I can't wait!

YAY SV! :)

Finals come out around 2:30 CST.

[individuall]

^Thanks :D

[eas]

I will explain to you my theory.I noticed a pattern last year when i started to pay notice to the ratings on a weekly basis.When an episode was good,the next episode would experience a spike in it's rating as a result.If the epidose was average then next episode's rating would drop even if it was better.I agree with you that Instinct and Committed felt like a two-parter,but personally i liked Instinct more.Not that i didn't like Committed.I think next week will be interesting.Since there will be no Clois it will a good chance to see how that relationship(in it's season 8 format) affects the ratings.

So, then, based on your observation, we should compare the ratings for "Abyss" and "Identity", as well as "Prey". Because "Abyss" is a non-Lois episode... and if the ratings are down, then you would say that it's because this one was bad. But, if "Abyss" is up, then it's because this one was good. However, if "Abyss" is UP and then "Identity" is DOWN, then the trend is that non-Lois episodes make the ratings go down for the NEXT episode.

Do I understand it correctly?


Committed didn't have the best promotion.It didn't even have a director's cut.

The DC, in my opinion, is not really advertising. It's for the hard-core fans. Anyone who cares enough to watch the DC is going to watch the episode. It doesn't affect ratings.

On the other hand, promos during the week on the CW *does* affect ratings, and they promoted the hell out of this episode. Everytime I watched the CW - 9 times out of 10 - they ran a Smallville promo. If it wasn't for this episode, it was one of the general "SV" promos... like the "Legends" one or the one about "Love". This is also, incidentally, the same amount of promotion they've given "SV" for all the rest of the episodes. They are also putting the "Smallville on Thursdays" text up during their other shows, starting from Mondays.

Even thought I dislike the CW and D.O. I have to (begrudgingly) admit that they've stepped up their "SV" advertising this year. Last year, it was almost non-existent... this year, it's pretty following the same patterns as their other shows.

[6-Super-Man -5]

IF Welling agrees to stay on. Given the numbers we're seeing, I have no doubt that the CW will give them S9 and I have no doubt that PS3 want a S9... but, honestly, it's about what Welling wants, at this stage.


Yeah, but I hope Welling stays.
Anyways it's great to see the ratings go up, up and away! :p

[JAMHEXXX]

I know this is a bit off topic, but I found it interesting.

Networks Get C3 Yearly Data, Fox, CW Improve
by Wayne Friedman, Thursday, Oct 16, 2008

Compared to last year's C3 numbers, Fox and CW are the most improved.

A day after commercial ratings were released by the TV networks for the first week of the new season, data has been released on how they fared versus last year's C3 ratings. Networks now have the first apples-to-apples comparison to last year's data--the first year that C3 was instituted.

For the first week, Fox and CW were the only two networks to improve in commercials ratings plus three days of DVR playback (C3) versus a year ago. As previously been reported, ABC still has the best score overall for C3 ratings against the most popular 18-49 viewer demographic--a 3.49 average rating--for the first week.

CW improved in virtually ever demographic, with a 14% gain among its key 18-34 demographic to a 1.3 rating. It also gained healthy numbers across 18-49 viewers: 9% to a 1.12 rating average, and even a 7% hike among 25-54 viewers to a 1.02 rating.


Good news for the CW which means good news for Smallville season 9.

[Dor el]

I think that "SV" is exceeding everyone's expectations and I can't imagine that D.O. will turn a blind eye to it. The woman's a moron, but can she be THAT much of a moron?

Oh for the faith of a mustard seed where DO is concerned.:\

[eas]

That is the only reason I stay on during the credits because of the previews for the next epsiode. Is there any other reason to watch the credits other then for previews?

LOL, I'm sure some people like to see them but I'm not one of those people who appreciate credits unless something happens during or after them.

Thanks for the information on TV ratings. I learned something today thanks to you Eas:)

Yeah, no one really sits around for credits... unless they're watching live TV and they're waiting for the next show to start or because they happen to stumble across it when they sit down for the following show. (For example, if I'm watching "Ugly Betty" and I'm just waiting for "Grey's Anatomy" to begin. Or, I'm addicted to "Grey's Anatomy" and I put on my TV a few minutes early, because I can't wait for GA to start... so I catch the end credits for "UB" even though I don't watch that show.)

Basically, networks realized that folks like you won't watch the credits unless they give you a REASON to watch it. Hence the whole "stay tuned for next week's previews after the break" trick that Fox uses at the end of "Bones". They're just trying to maximize the numbers straddling across two shows.

And, you're welcome. I'm a bit of a TV/movie junkie, so I love this stuff! :)

[davidbrenton]

I hope/sorta expect that because the episode was so good and we're developing down that road of Lois/Clark and the ratings were strong, that we may start to get a new regular viewer influx. Does anyone know the ratings average for Lois & Clark on ABC? The "Superman" theme as opposed to "Superboy" may hit a larger appeal.

Plus, Tom Welling and Erica Durance, as proven in this episode, beat the heck out of Teri & Dean's acting/chemistry.

David

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, Tom and Erica's chemistry destroyed Teri and Dean's!
I hope if there is a Season Nine, Tom and Erica return!

[costas22]

So, then, based on your observation, we should compare the ratings for "Abyss" and "Identity", as well as "Prey". Because "Abyss" is a non-Lois episode... and if the ratings are down, then you would say that it's because this one was bad. But, if "Abyss" is up, then it's because this one was good. However, if "Abyss" is UP and then "Identity" is DOWN, then the trend is that non-Lois episodes make the ratings go down for the NEXT episode.

No.My observation about how the quality of an episode affects the next one's rating and my observation about how Clois affects an episode rating are two separate things.I read in a previous post that the rating might have picked up a lot in the second half because of the Clois.And personally i agree with that.But i am not an advertiser and i don't know a damn thing abut how ratings work.I am just guessing.


Even thought I dislike the CW and D.O. I have to (begrudgingly) admit that they've stepped up their "SV" advertising this year. Last year, it was almost non-existent... this year, it's pretty following the same patterns as their other shows.<!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->

You are right on this one since you live in the States.I live in Greece so obviously i have no clue how the CW promotes the show.I just said that it wasn't properly promoted based on the absence of a DC.

[JAMHEXXX]

Half hour breakdown for Supernatural, it isn't pretty.

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.18 m, A18-49: 1.2/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 2.94 m, A18-49: 1.1/ 3

[individuall]

Oh, poor SPN :(

[SparkleforSmallville]

Half hour breakdown for Supernatural, it isn't pretty.

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.18 m, A18-49: 1.2/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 2.94 m, A18-49: 1.1/ 3

Poor SpN, 3.06 mil., it was against all the Ratings giants at 9pm.
It was a good Episode too.

[6-Super-Man -5]

The episode for SPN was good too. :(

[mskingston]

Half hour breakdown for Supernatural, it isn't pretty.

Supernatural
9:00 p.m. V: 3.18 m, A18-49: 1.2/ 3
9:30 p.m. V: 2.94 m, A18-49: 1.1/ 3
Poor "Supernatural". I loved the episode. It was so well-done. :(

That's very good news about "Smallville" though. It seems to be really holding up. I like that.

[psyko69]

Yeah, Tom and Erica's chemistry destroyed Teri and Dean's!
I hope if there is a Season Nine, Tom and Erica return!

Ditto on the chemistry, this season is what the show should have been all along.

There is no Season Nine without Tom and Erica, what would the show be? The Jimmy and Chloe Olsen Happy Hour? Get back to me when you find viewers that would watch that. Certainly not gonna find many around here.

I probably would, but that's cause I actually like Chimmy and I'll take anything Smallville related I can get, but that's just me.

And I'm pretty sure Erica is contracted through Nine.

I think its just Tom they need.

I'd venture a guess that given a raise and the quality writing he's been getting as of late would be in his favour and would probably go a long way to convincing him to return.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Ditto on the chemistry, this season is what the show should have been all along.

There is no Season Nine without Tom and Erica, what would the show be? The Jimmy and Chloe Olsen Happy Hour? Get back to me when you find viewers that would watch that. Certainly not gonna find many around here.

I probably would, but that's cause I actually like Chimmy and I'll take anything Smallville related I can get, but that's just me.

And I'm pretty sure Erica is contracted through Nine.

I think its just Tom they need.

I'd venture a guess that given a raise and the quality writing he's been getting as of late would be in his favour and would probably go a long way to convincing him to return.

Yeah, I'm sure Erica is contracted already, just they need Tom to really have a Season Nine.

- Hope for Season Nine

[Smallville6]

Wow, so who's your favorite character now? Lois?

Oh, woops! No, I love Clark! :lol:
I meant to say CHlark! Not Clark!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Oh, woops! No, I love Clark! :lol:
I meant to say CHlark! Not Clark!

Oh, haha, yeah I was like... wow... :p

- Hope for Season Nine

[rogueslayer1985]

i love chlark too!!!

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what did the episode's rating finish on? please

[stenochick]

Poor SpN, 3.06 mil., it was against all the Ratings giants at 9pm.
It was a good Episode too.

These tens of millions of people who watch network television have no idea what they are missing on Thursday nights on the CW.

[individuall]

Have the finals for SV come out yet? I thought they were supposed to be out at 2:30...Just wondering...Sorry to be such a pest..I just REALLY wanna know..:)

[Smallville6]

^I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure someone posted that it came out to 4.15 mil a few pages back! :D

[6-Super-Man -5]

^I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure someone posted that it came out to 4.15 mil a few pages back! :D

Yeah, I'm pretty sure someone posted it.

- Hope for Season Nine

[Aries83]

4.15 is the final number. I've been keeping track of the ratings since the premiere. To date, Smallville has averaged about 4.13 million viewers a week. Of course, these numbers don't reflect the Live+7 ratings.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Thats good, keep it at 4 million!

- Hope for Season Nine

[Lis]

Final rating for Committed:

Smallville
- 4.183 million viewers
- 2.5/4 HH
- 1.7/5 A18-49
- 1.7/6 A18-34

Source (http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/426105761/p/15)

[Fallen One]

4.18, good job Smallville!

[Kevin24]

4.18 is the second highest this year right?

[eas]

4.183??? Awesome!!!

Is that with the +7 for DVRing?

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4.18 is the second highest this year right?

Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ 4.34 mil
#2 Plastique ~ 4.18 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ 4.05 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ 4.12 mil.
#5 Committed ~ 4.18 mil.

(Thanks, SparkleforSmallville... I took your list from the "Instinct" thread. :) )

[geminis]

Round of applause for season 8 Smallville. It'd be interesting to see the numbers for other shows in their eighth season, not that there are a whole lot. Another round of applause for Smallville. Old does not automatically equate bad, something most people just do not get.

And yes my sympathies for Supernatural as well. That was a stellar Halloween episode. It's up against not just one but several powerhouse dramas and comedies.

Back to Smallville. Hurray for 4.18!!! Same number as Plastique!

[bizzaroboy9]

awesome!!!
glad smallville is still doing gr8! lets hope for a higher number next week!

[Aries83]

4.18 is the second highest this year right?

Yes. The premiere got 4.38 million, so this would be the second highest number.

Since 4.18 million is the final number, that means Smallville has averaged, so far, about 4.14 million viewers every week since the start of the season.

[eas]

So, it's about the promos.... "Toxic" has been the lowest rated episode and it was promoted as a Green Arrow episode.

I think this show, yet once again, that folks tune in for CLARK KENT. :D When it looks like Clark is going to have a great episode, folks tune in to watch.

[costas22]

After Toxic the ratings seem to be on the rise.Based on the trailer for Prey i expect even more viewers to tune in.I believe it is a pivotal epidose for Doomsday's development

[Smallville6]

Whoohoo!
Yay for 4.18!
Thats awsome!

[6-Super-Man -5]

Very awesome!

- Hope for Season Nine

[ClarkyBoy14]

YES! 4.18 million is great news! This just goes to show how much sway internet fan groups have on the ratings. ;)

[individuall]

YAY! thanks 4.18 AWSOME!
second highest of the season, right? :D

[ClarkyBoy14]

Poor SpN, 3.06 mil., it was against all the Ratings giants at 9pm.
It was a good Episode too.

You watch SPN? I thought you said it was too scary?

I haven't watched it yet; I'll have to wait until it's on the CW's video player.

And, yes, it's too bad the numbers for it were so low, but I'm not surprised. I don't think a black-and-white episode appeals much to the CW's demographic (I'm not a woman, but it doesn't really appeal to me). Just look at "Noir," which was one of SV's lower rated episodes.

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4.183??? Awesome!!!

Is that with the +7 for DVRing?

No, it hasn't been on for seven days yet. ;)

The L+7 for "Toxic" will be out on Monday, though. :)

[6-Super-Man -5]

YAY! thanks 4.18 AWSOME!
second highest of the season, right? :D

Yeah, I'm very sure it is! :D

- Hope for Season Nine

[ClarkyBoy14]

Well, from what I've understood, the first half hour is measured at a point within the first 5 minutes of the episode. The last half hour is measured at a point about 5 minutes from the end of the episode. The reason they average it out is so that can measure who watched from beginning to end, in a manner of speaking.

So, really, I think that the viewers in the 2nd half hour are closer to the the "real" figures... because some folks don't tune in the first couple of minutes (right at 8:00, before the credits).

This is why Supernatural's ratings are usually higher in the first half than the second half... folks from Smallville carry over into their ratings and beef up the first half.

This is why every network's toughest call is what show will lead their prime-time. The show that gets the 8:00pm slot is usually the one they have the most confidence in, because they believe that it'll have generate enough interest with viewers to carry over to the other shows.

Of course, as Tivo/DVR usage increases, the networks are finding that viewers have less of a tendency to just stick with one channel throughout the night. So, they're scrambling to figure out ways to get around that. That's why you see a lot of them do things like 'go over" by 1 or two minutes into the next hour. That allows them to grab ratings for an episode of Show B, even though those are viewers who were watching Show A. It artificially inflates the ratings and allows them to charge more for advertising. NBC was very bad about this. And, now, so is ABC.

According to Nielsen's website, the ratings are taken minute-by-minute, not at the beginning and end of each hour. ;) I believe those minute-by-minute ratings are then averaged out to give us our half-hour data.


Daily household minute-by-minute viewing and tuning data, from both the national and local metered samples, is stored in the in-home metering system until it is automatically retrieved by our computers each night. Once the data is relayed via phone lines to our operations center in Oldsmar, Florida, it is processed that same night for release to the television industry the next day.

Source: http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/menuitem.55dc65b4a7d5adff3f65936147a062a0/?show=%252FFilters%252FPublic%252Ftop_tv_ratings%2 52Fcable_tv&vgnextoid=4f5247f8b5264010VgnVCM100000880a260aRCRD&selOneIndex=1

[eas]

No, it hasn't been on for seven days yet. ;)

The L+7 for "Toxic" will be out on Monday, though. :)

LOL... good point!! I guess, though, that these aren' t the FINAL ratings? It'll go up?

Also, Gaby at DI, pointed out to me that this one is higher than "Plastique".

Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ 4.34 mil
#2 Plastique ~ 4.181 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ 4.05 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ 4.12 mil.
#5 Committed ~ 4.183 mil.

Not that much of a difference, but I thought I'd post it.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Wow! Supernatural did awful! #5 - 3.06 mil

In defense of SN, It was up against new episodes of CSI, GA, SNL, Office and KN. Wow!

Smallville beat "Hole in the Wall" :lol: Have you seen it! OMG, It's horrible. and I 've watched "Wipeout" a few times, didn't think anything could be worse than that:lol:

http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/426105761

Marc Berman said "and the aging Smallville". Why can't he give SV props for gaining in the ratings from last week! What is up with MB and Smallville?

I'm glad Smallville beat FOX again. :) I believe that baseball will be back next week, though. So that will probably hurt. :(

I'm tired of MB always calling SV "aging" and other things too. SPN is also down by about the same amount, so why isn't it labeled as "aging"? I really think that MB has something against SV. :(

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LOL... good point!! I guess, though, that these aren' t the FINAL ratings? It'll go up?

The L+7 numbers will be higher, yes. :)


Also, Gaby at DI, pointed out to me that this one is higher than "Plastique".

Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ 4.34 mil
#2 Plastique ~ 4.181 mil.
#3 Toxic ~ 4.05 mil.
#4 Instinct ~ 4.12 mil.
#5 Committed ~ 4.183 mil.

Not that much of a difference, but I thought I'd post it.

Ha, that's good. What's interesting is that this episode didn't even have any DC guests. Just some good ol' Clois. :D

[THE"Lurker"]

Half hour breakdown:




Smallville
8:00 p.m. V: 3.93 m, A18-49: 1.6/ 5
8:30 p.m. V: 4.37 m, A18-49: 1.8/ 5

WOW 4.37 in the second half that is awesome:cool: I see a Seaaon 9 in our future:cool:

[eas]

According to Nielsen's website, the ratings are taken minute-by-minute, not at the beginning and end of each hour. ;) I believe those minute-by-minute ratings are then averaged out to give us our half-hour data.

I think that's how they calculate minute-by-minute...by taking the beginning and end... I don't think they account for 'channel surfers' when they get the ratings - or there would be no need to average out 1st half vs. 2nd half. Awhile back, I read an article that explained it and also explained the reason that this is the reason the shows do the 'bleed-over' into other hours. It was TVGuide or EW. I'll look for it...

But, that was awhile ago, so maybe the technology has updated. They have, after all, started figuring in DVR recordings for the first time. *shrug*

[6-Super-Man -5]

WOW 4.37 in the second half that is awesome:cool: I see a Seaaon 9 in our future:cool:

Me too! :D

- Hope for Season Nine

[ClarkyBoy14]

I think that's how they calculate minute-by-minute...by taking the beginning and end... I don't think they account for 'channel surfers' when they get the ratings - or there would be no need to average out 1st half vs. 2nd half. Awhile back, I read an article that explained it and also explained the reason that this is the reason the shows do the 'bleed-over' into other hours. It was TVGuide or EW. I'll look for it...

But, that was awhile ago, so maybe the technology has updated. They have, after all, started figuring in DVR recordings for the first time. *shrug*

I believe you have to stay tuned to the channel for an entire minute for the Nielsen box to record that data. I'm not positive, though. It would be a good question for the ratings smarties at PIFeedback. :p

[tyson08]

This had to go up against the Sox/Rays game and it still did this good. Every commercial I would flip the Sox game then come back. This episode was great but I'm so pumped for next week. I haven't looked at the World Series schedule yet but if they don't play at 8 next thursday, I expect to see some damn good ratings.

[ClarkyBoy14]

^If they don't, then I think "Prey" will do really well.

[myankskent]

Unless the Red Sox get into the World Series, I don't expect big ratings, especially at the start. A Phillies/Rays World Series is not going to get big national attention, IMO.

[skylar]

I am so glad that smallville did well i wanted a 4.28 but 4.18 not bad.
This season is excellent!!!!

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yay! 4.18 mil. Final is awesome! We will gain almost 1 mil in the Live+7. Go Smallville!!



You watch SPN? I thought you said it was too scary?

I haven't watched it yet; I'll have to wait until it's on the CW's video player.

And, yes, it's too bad the numbers for it were so low, but I'm not surprised. I don't think a black-and-white episode appeals much to the CW's demographic (I'm not a woman, but it doesn't really appeal to me). Just look at "Noir," which was one of SV's lower rated episodes.


:lol: It usually is! I really like the Boys and try to watch it till something grosses me out or scares me. Last night was mostly funny! Watch how Dracula makes his escape:lol:

I don't know why, but I had to keep switching to see what was happening on GA.:/ I forgot about SNL which has been good.

[silverdragon]

oh yea...go smallville....

[6-Super-Man -5]

Keep it going Smallville.

- Hope for Season Nine

[Karafan1]

I'm happy to see smallville is still in the 4 million catagory..

[6-Super-Man -5]

Man as well.

[davidbrenton]

Does our (Normal people) DVR viewing effect the Live+7 ratings? I know only nielson families effect the regular ratings except during sweeps when mailers are mailed out to out-of-nielson families. But, I'm wondering if everyone's DVR viewing habit is picked up.

David

[Rafael122]

Life on Mars got 8 million viewers last night. 4 million more than Smallville. If the network would market Smallville more, advertise it more, they could probably reach the 5 million viewer mark, maybe more. I think that's whats hurting them, no advertisement. It's like they expect us to watch b/c we've been doing so for the past 8 years now.

[Mr.Magic]

Life on Mars got 8 million viewers last night. 4 million more than Smallville. If the network would market Smallville more, advertise it more, they could probably reach the 5 million viewer mark, maybe more. I think that's whats hurting them, no advertisement. It's like they expect us to watch b/c we've been doing so for the past 8 years now.

Isn't LoM-US on one of the big networks? OK, checked up on it, it's on ABC. For them 8 million is usually just above cancellation (or below, if the show is really expensive).

[alejandrita439]

YAY!
good ratings for smallville

:)

[tariksam]

And Smallville is number 3rd in iTunes with Committed, so if you have 1,99$ buy and support it, last episodes always started on the 10th place.

iTunes right now is as important as ratings

[Tompouce]

I am not from US, the only thing I can tell you is that Smallville is still a show with a lot of fans in my country and I think it's true for many european countries (I don't know if it is important for the producers and the CW but there are fans all around the world and it makes MANY viewers).

[Jaderoyale]

Great!
It was a good episode too :p

[shark87]

Smallville is very popular also in my country. We pray for season nine :)

[Kel-El09]

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action.............4.50 million


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.85 million

Do y'all realize that last season, the first five episodes did amazing?? This season's writing is SO much better, it's not fair!

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yay! 4.18 mil. Final is awesome! We will gain almost 1 mil in the Live+7. Go Smallville!!




:lol: It usually is! I really like the Boys and try to watch it till something grosses me out or scares me. Last night was mostly funny! Watch how Dracula makes his escape:lol:

I don't know why, but I had to keep switching to see what was happening on GA.:/ I forgot about SNL which has been good.

Oh, I see. :)

I watched the SNL special. The JtP stuff was kind of funny, as well as the HSM jab. :lol:



Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action.............4.50 million


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.85 million

Do y'all realize that last season, the first five episodes did amazing?? This season's writing is SO much better, it's not fair!

It's good to remember that last season didn't face the challenge of losing half of the cast and the showrunners. ;)

[unfocused]

Great numbers all around for the season. 4.18, wow. Committed deserved those numbers.

[Jaderoyale]

Great numbers all around for the season. 4.18, wow. Committed deserved those numbers.

I agree.
Theres nothing worse than when a great episode doesn't achieve the numbers it deserves, aka 'Gemini'.

[myankskent]

It's good to remember that last season didn't face the challenge of losing half of the cast and the showrunners. ;)

And, during the beginning of last season, it wasn't a season that was dealing with the aftermath of a writer's strike either, which is why I think that a lot of shows are down in this year as far as the ratings are concerned, but that's JMO. I also think that there were certain things at the beginning of last season that made people watch. For instance, having Bizarro and the introducation of Supergirl in the premier episode was a good way to get fans interested. Plus, the fourth episode last season had Dean Cain in it and I think it's safe to say that he was a guest star that appealed to a lot of viewers out there.

[Aries83]

At this point, as a network anyway, The CW cannot put so much stock into ratings because none of their other shows are making money. Smallville may be in its 8th season, but whether they wanna believe it or not, they know it's the only thing, aside from ANTM, that's making any money. They'd have to keep it on the air to buoy their other shows because they can't get a foothold on viewers.

For them not to consider a 9th season at the very least, would be very very stupid on their part.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I agree.
Theres nothing worse than when a great episode doesn't achieve the numbers it deserves, aka 'Gemini'.

Agreed. :(

[Timester]

Season 7 Week to Week

Bizarro............5.18 million*
Kara................4.59 million*
Fierce..............4.82 million*
Cure................5.18 million*
Action.............4.50 million


* - Final Rating

Season Average - 4.85 million

Do y'all realize that last season, the first five episodes did amazing?? This season's writing is SO much better, it's not fair!

Only in season 2, the ratings got better than the previous season.

[SparkleforSmallville]

And Smallville is number 3rd in iTunes with Committed, so if you have 1,99$ buy and support it, last episodes always started on the 10th place.

iTunes right now is as important as ratings


Where do you find the iTunes Statistics? I'm very interested in those:) I think you are right about it being important, and you don't have to be a Nielsen to be counted at iTunes.

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Nevermind i found it on my iTunes at the Store. Instinct is still in the top100 at #60 and SV "Committed" is 3rd and Spn is 4th, but GA is trying to sneak in.

I do wonder how to find out how many downloads is 3rd place this week. Anyone know how to get that info?

[tariksam]

Now it number 4th...you on your iTunes enter to the iTunes store and I think there is a box that says Top TV Episodes click there and you'll see Smallville in 4th with Committed and Instinct is 66th

ETA: Nevermind you found it

[Rafael122]

Isn't LoM-US on one of the big networks? OK, checked up on it, it's on ABC. For them 8 million is usually just above cancellation (or below, if the show is really expensive).

That's what I'm saying. Big budget, a lot of money spent on advertising and that show loses 8 MILLION viewers in the second week.

You put Smallville on a major network, slightly bigger budget, and tons of advertising, and it'd beat out shows like Heroes, etc. But no, they are stuck on the CW, a channel people rarely watch, a channel that doesn't advertise anything.

[unfocused]

^^^ I agree.

Take into consideration that with a higher budget, the writers would get paid more to do better work. I would HATE to have the Heroes writing staff taking over Smallville, because the show would be really boring and confusing (IMO). I would like to keep the current writers, but they could use more motivation ($$$) when writing an episode. :p

[kryptonian13]

^i agree too!!
and i'm really happy to hear that smallville is still in the 4 million viewers thing.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Lets hope for higher in the next episode.

[Smallville6]

I miss the WB, at least they actually cared about SV.
I cant even begin to describe how much I hate the CW *sighs*
I'm hoping for a S9 of SV, but if Smallville ends this season then I doubt the CW will last very long without it.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm hoping for a S9 of SV, but if Smallville ends this season then I doubt the CW will last very long without it.

Agreed, but lets not lose hope, cause I think it'll happen. :D
But yeah, we got higher ratings when we were with WB!
Hope for Season Nine!

[myankskent]

Lets hope for higher in the next episode.

Well, the CW put a very strong trailer together for "Prey" where they promoted Doomsday. That will at least give them a chance to see an increase next week. As good as the CW trailer is, I'm sure Space will manage to show an even better one. That seems to be the norm.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, they put together a solid trailer.

[skully]

4.18 million ain't too shabby. Well done PS3.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Very well done!

[rogerufo]

Anybody know how DVD sales influence network decisions to renew a series? It seems like Smallville is always a top seller, at least on Amazon. Right now season 7 is in the top 20 in TV DVD sales. In past years they have cracked the top ten. Doesn't this generate revenue for the CW?

[batfinx]

Instinct and Committed have started an upward momentum and I think Prey can easily continue that trend. This year has provided more diverse interest bases for the show. People interested in the myth have the beginning of Clois and characters like Plastique, Maxima and Doomsday, and Clark finally acting like Superman. Even in generic terms there's romance, action, heroes and villains. Even some mystery thrown in with "X". Kara and Lana will return and hopefully even Lex. I'd say there's a lot of reasons the ratings should go up or at least stay stable.

[6-Super-Man -5]

Yeah, I believe "Prey" will get massively higher.

[ClarkyBoy14]

Yeah, I believe "Prey" will get massively higher.

I'm not so sure about massively higher, but I would be really happy to see another increase. :)

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Anybody know how DVD sales influence network decisions to renew a series? It seems like Smallville is always a top seller, at least on Amazon. Right now season 7 is in the top 20 in TV DVD sales. In past years they have cracked the top ten. Doesn't this generate revenue for the CW?

It generates revenue for Warner, which owns half of the CW, so I guess you could say though. Although, most reports say that Warner gave the day-to-day running duties of the CW to CBS.

Did you see that SV S7 actually hit the #1 spot for awhile when it was just released? I thought that was pretty cool.

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And, during the beginning of last season, it wasn't a season that was dealing with the aftermath of a writer's strike either, which is why I think that a lot of shows are down in this year as far as the ratings are concerned, but that's JMO. I also think that there were certain things at the beginning of last season that made people watch. For instance, having Bizarro and the introducation of Supergirl in the premier episode was a good way to get fans interested. Plus, the fourth episode last season had Dean Cain in it and I think it's safe to say that he was a guest star that appealed to a lot of viewers out there.

That's very true.

I'm not sure how much of an effect this has, but this is also the first year that SV has been widely available online (iTunes, Amazon, CWTV), letting people skip the live viewing and just waiting to watch it on the computers.

[6-Super-Man -5]

I'm not so sure about massively higher, but I would be really happy to see another increase. :)


Well at least 4.20 million as the highest.

[tariksam]

Mark my words...Prey will be higher because of the after airing-buzz of Committed. The episode is getting massive good comments and first time that I have seen the whole fandom (well except some) that agrees that the episode was really good and are being expresive about it. So if Prey gets good ratings it will be not only because is good, for the first time I'll be on board with the "the previous episode help it" reason for ratings

[ClarkyBoy14]

Well at least 4.20 million as the highest.

That's quite possible. I would be very happy with that. :)

[WalkinDude]

I predict that the ratings will continue to go up, maybe even cracking 5 million. You've got more Doomsday action with Prey, Clark getting more into the Superman thing in Identity, and the Legion of Superheroes sounds really cool, I can't wait to see what they do with that.

I think this next three episode stretch is going to be one of Smallville's best.

[Best Episode - 321]

Live +7 for the week of 9-29 to 10-5 (Toxic) are in:

SMALLVILLE......................4.614
AMERICA’S TOP MODEL........4.459
SUPERNATURAL..................4.049
90210..............................3.801
GOSSIP GIRL.....................3.794
ONE TREE HILL..................3.791
PRIVILEGED......................2.212

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/10/21...ncrease-2/6565

Live +7 Week by Week
Odyssey . . . . . 4.804
Prey . . . . . . . 4.782
Toxic . . . . . . . 4.614

[ClarkyBoy14]

Thanks for posting them. I'm glad that Smallville is on top there too, and that the L+7's look good.

[SparkleforSmallville]

Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ 4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ 4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ 4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ 4.12 mil.

#5 Committed ~ 4.18 mil.

Looking so good:)

[eas]

So, will we get "Live + 7" tomorrow or on Friday?

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^^We won't get live+7 for "Instinct" till Mon. or Tues. They are about 2 episodes behind the airings.

[stenochick]

I hope it breaks the five million barrier. It is so close. It is going to be all word of mouth - friends telling friends who watch other shows to set their DVR to Smallville because it is really good this season.

[eas]

^^^We won't get live+7 for "Instinct" till Mon. or Tues. They are about 2 episodes behind the airings.

Oh, OK! Thanks! :)

[Jack-El49]

In other (Good) news, Gossip Girl just can't seem to hold an audience. This from today's entertainment news:

"On the CW, the ratings showed some soap opera-like dramatics. "Gossip Girl" (3 million) fell nine percent to hit a season low, while veteran "One Tree Hill" (3.7 million) jumped six percent to a season high -- despite the softer "Gossip" lead-in this week."

DO must be ready to slit her wrists.

[Mr.Magic]

I hope it breaks the five million barrier. It is so close. It is going to be all word of mouth - friends telling friends who watch other shows to set their DVR to Smallville because it is really good this season.

So, all your friends have Nielsen boxes? Tell them to pretend they have Smallville parties, and set the box to an audience of 10. That equals 1 million viewers right there.

[ShelbyKent]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this already...it's a WB press release about the ratings for Committed:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallvilleseason8ep5101qp4.jpg

Why are they obssessed with teen viewers only?

[Mr.Magic]

Why are they obssessed with teen viewers only?

Because they are dumb enough to buy the crap that is advertised?

Or told from the other POV. Most products in the ads are more interesting for the youthful(ish).

[tariksam]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this already...it's a WB press release about the ratings for Committed:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallvilleseason8ep5101qp4.jpg



Why I am not surprised?...oh right cause I knew this epsidoe would kick ass!!!:cool::D

[eas]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this already...it's a WB press release about the ratings for Committed:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallvilleseason8ep5101qp4.jpg

Why are they obssessed with teen viewers only?

Because that is the target demographic for the CW.

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Why I am not surprised?...oh right cause I knew this epsidoe would kick ass!!!:cool::D

We shouldn't be surprised... it pretty much shows that the audience will tune in when Clark is being all proactive and awesome. And, of course, when Lois Lane is around. ;)

This was advertised as a 100% Clois/Chimmy episode. More Clois than Chimmy, even. Given that "Instinct" was also Clois-heavy (promoted as such) and this one BUILT on that audience... it's clear that people are ready for Clois.

[Kal-ed]

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this already...it's a WB press release about the ratings for Committed:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smallvilleseason8ep5101qp4.jpg

Why are they obssessed with teen viewers only?

Due to their fleaky and hectic lives, companies that sell products targeted for those consumers have a hard time advertising their products to them since they can be at the mall one day, at a concert on the next and sitting at home watching tv the day after, so shows that manage to hold a percentage of this teen, can charge more due to their demographics.

Lets say you want to sell hip youngster clothes, Smallville is one of the few shows you should go to, not because it has great numbers in general but because it has great numbers in the targeted demographics your looking for.

What I dont get is why GG, with its raitings already had an extra 2 episodes aproved for this season:confused:

[eas]

^^ Because the media buzz that it generates and critical acclaim (and, yes, it has critical acclaim, go figure) make it worth keeping around... "GG" gets the CW more press than aging shows like "SV" and "SPN".

[Luiz Fernando]

Committed Live+7 Ratings : 4,73 millions

Greatest % Increase from Time-Shifting for Broadcast TV Shows:
<!--StartFragment--> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="550"><col width="33"> <col width="159"> <col width="32"> <col width="70"> <col width="72"> <col width="67"> <col width="61"> <tbody></tbody> <tbody></tbody> <tbody></tbody> <tbody></tbody> <tbody></tbody> <tbody> <tr height="52"> <td class="xl26" height="52" width="33">Rank</td> <td class="xl26" width="159">Programs</td> <td class="xl26" width="32">Network</td> <td class="xl28" style="text-align: right;" width="70">Persons Live+7 (000s)</td> <td class="xl28" style="text-align: right;" width="72">Persons Live (000s)</td> <td class="xl28" style="text-align: right;" width="67">Time-shifted Audience (000s)</td> <td class="xl26" style="text-align: right;" width="61">% increase from Live to Live+7</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">1</td> <td class="xl30">OFFICE</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 9,662</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 6,823</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,839</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">41.6%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">2</td> <td class="xl30">HEROES</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 10,377</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 7,439</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,938</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">39.5%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">3</td> <td class="xl30">FRINGE</td> <td class="xl30">FOX</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 11,048</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 8,239</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,809</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">34.1%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">4</td> <td class="xl30">HOUSE</td> <td class="xl30">FOX</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 15,243</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 11,636</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 3,607</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">31.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">5</td> <td class="xl30">GREY’S ANATOMY</td> <td class="xl30">ABC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 17,063</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 13,105</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 3,958</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">30.2%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">6</td> <td class="xl30">GOSSIP GIRL</td> <td class="xl30">CW</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 3,704</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,885</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 819</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">28.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">7</td> <td class="xl30">SUPERNATURAL</td> <td class="xl30">CW</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 3,567</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,785</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 782</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">28.1%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">8</td> <td class="xl30">CHUCK</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 6,955</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 5,520</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,435</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">26.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">9</td> <td class="xl30">SMALLVILLE</td> <td class="xl30">CW</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 4,729</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 3,791</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 938</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">24.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">10</td> <td class="xl30">MY OWN WORST ENEMY</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 8,488</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 6,843</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,645</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">24.0%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">11</td> <td class="xl30">LIFE</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 6,766</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 5,559</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,207</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">21.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">12</td> <td class="xl30">ONE TREE HILL</td> <td class="xl30">CW</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 3,824</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 3,157</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 667</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">21.1%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">13</td> <td class="xl30">PUSHING DAISIES</td> <td class="xl30">ABC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 6,840</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 5,666</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,174</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">20.7%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">14</td> <td class="xl30">SURVIVOR: GABON</td> <td class="xl30">CBS</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 13,777</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 11,444</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,333</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">20.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">15</td> <td class="xl30">DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES</td> <td class="xl30">ABC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 16,902</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 14,111</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 2,791</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">19.8%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">16</td> <td class="xl30">BOSTON LEGAL</td> <td class="xl30">ABC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 9,097</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 7,617</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,480</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">19.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">17</td> <td class="xl30">MY NAME IS EARL</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 7,426</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 6,218</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,208</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">19.4%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">18</td> <td class="xl30">SNL:WKND UPDT 10/16</td> <td class="xl30">NBC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 9,494</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 7,990</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,504</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">18.8%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">19</td> <td class="xl30">THE GAME</td> <td class="xl30">CW</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 2,022</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,709</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 313</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">18.3%</td> </tr> <tr height="16"> <td class="xl24" height="16">20</td> <td class="xl30">LIFE ON MARS</td> <td class="xl30">ABC</td> <td class="xl29" align="right"> 9,319</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 7,880</td> <td class="xl27" align="right"> 1,439</td> <td class="xl25" align="right">18.3%</td></tr></tbody></table>

[SparkleforSmallville]

^^ thanks for posting! 4.73mil. is Awesome:)

[RedKRules]

I agree, it is very good indeed :)........ I am glad that House is doing so good as well :D:D:D:D

although I am not surprised that Prey did a little better, because it was a better episode IMO:)

[JAMHEXXX]

Prey didn't get better ratings than Committed.

[eas]

I agree, it is very good indeed :)........ I am glad that House is doing so good as well :D:D:D:D

although I am not surprised that Prey did a little better, because it was a better episode IMO:)

"Prey" didn't get better ratings than "Committed".

The initial ratings for "Committed" were 4.18 and "Prey" was 4.15. Even if "Prey" goes up in Live +7, it'll probably still be slightly lower (or at least the same amount) as "Committed".

[SparkleforSmallville]

Yeah, it seems to be pretty consistent, a 500,000 to 600,000 gain from the Final rating. But hey!
consistent is AOK with me:)
So Far:
*Smallville S8 Finals:
#1 Odyssey ~ *4.34 mil & Live+7= 4.80 mil.

#2 Plastique ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.78 mil.

#3 Toxic ~ *4.05 mil. & Live+7= 4.61 mil.

#4 Instinct ~ *4.12 mil. & Live+7= 4.71 mil.

#5 Committed ~ *4.18 mil. & Live+7= 4.73 mil.

#6 Prey ~ *4.15 mil.

#7 Identity ~ *4.32 mil.

Still looking so good:)

[RedKRules]

"Prey" didn't get better ratings than "Committed".

The initial ratings for "Committed" were 4.18 and "Prey" was 4.15. Even if "Prey" goes up in Live +7, it'll probably still be slightly lower (or at least the same amount) as "Committed".

Thanks for letting know, my bad then!

[ClarkyBoy14]

Good, it went up again. I think "Prey" could go even higher since a lot of people probably watched baseball live and DVRed SV that week.