OK where do people get the idea that the character of Tess Mercer is bisexual?

[RJLCyberPunk]

I really have to ask because I have been watching the show and nothing so far has given me any inkling of her being either a lesbian or a Bi, I have noticed that she is ruthless and dtermined to get what she wants at any cost but a Lesbian or a Bi? And please refrain from posting any kind of interview with the actress in which she might have given an inkling that she (the actress) is bisexual or not since we are talking about the character and not the actress, please keep that in mind...

[Smallville6]

Go watch her scene with Lois in Odyssey.

[AndiGirl]

I dont think she is bisexual at all...I think she uses what she has to get what she wants. Which is just being sleezy...not bisexual. :lol:

I think she was trying to intimidate Lois by getting in her face...but Lois didnt back down. It came off rather intense..and I think people interpreted that as sexual tension. I think Tess knows she's an attractive woman..and she uses that with men, women, vegatable...mineral. :\

I have no problem with Tess being bisexual...I just dont think she is. I think she is a tough woman that uses what she has to get information out of people. Much like Lois did in Combat. We all know Lois isnt interested in women...but she oozed sex appeal after she was caught by that woman.

I dont know...just my thoughts.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Go watch her scene with Lois in Odyssey.


I did, so she touched her freaking maid uniform big freaking deal! That hardly constitutes proof of either bisexuality or lesbianism. I'm not saying the character could not end up being like that but that so far there is really no hard evidence to support the lesbian/Bisexual Tess Mercer theory...


I dont think she is bisexual at all...I think she uses what she has to get what she wants. Which is just being sleezy...not bisexual. :lol:

I think she was trying to intimidate Lois by getting in her face...but Lois didnt back down. It came off rather intense..and I think people interpreted that as sexual tension. I think Tess knows she's an attractive woman..and she uses that with men, women, vegatable...mineral. :\

I have no problem with Tess being bisexual...I just dont think she is. I think she is a tough woman that uses what she has to get information out of people. Much like Lois did in Combat. We all know Lois isnt interested in women...but she oozed sex appeal after she was caught by that woman.

I dont know...just my thoughts.

That's hopw I gather it as well, she is very dominant and has to get her way no matter what not that she is a lesbian or a bisexual as quite a few are now claiming based just on she touching LOIS maid garment which again constitutes no proof whatsoever of such a claim. Again I recngize we have yet to find out more about the character but so far there is no shred of evidence to support the Gay/Bi Tess Mercer theory...

[Bizarrolover]

I asked a similar question on another thread, I think it was in Toxic. I'm not sure she's bisexual, or lesbian but right now she's very ambiguous. She reaches out to touch the collar of Lois's french maid costume, then she tries to caress Bette's face in Plastique and then she flirts with Clark, stating how his tie brings out his eyes. I really don't know what's going on with her but it certainly gives the character a more interesting angle.

[Smallville6]

I dont think she's actually bisexual, it's just that she has so much chemistry with a lot of woman.

[Billy Jor-El]

Then again....perhaps she's not human.....?

[SteveS]

They get the idea from their fantasy life, apparently a place where quite a viewers live almost full time.

[susangail]

They get the idea from their fantasy life, apparently a place where quite a viewers live almost full time.

;) Regardless, the idea is refreshing. There's certainly been enough past speculation on the undercurrent between Clark and Lex. Why not Tess and any number of characters?

[Imzadia]

'AndieGirl', I like your Thoughts about it, and I Agree with how YOU'VE assessed the situation. And Yes, 'SteveS', I Agree with you, too. IMHO, it's people's own Fantasy lives that's fueling these conclusions.

[xrayvision]

I asked a similar question on another thread, I think it was in Toxic. I'm not sure she's bisexual, or lesbian but right now she's very ambiguous. She reaches out to touch the collar of Lois's french maid costume, then she tries to caress Bette's face in Plastique and then she flirts with Clark, stating how his tie brings out his eyes. I really don't know what's going on with her but it certainly gives the character a more interesting angle.

I never knew there were theories about this. But I definitely have been suspicious lately. There was a scene in Instinct that gave me the feeling she was like that, but I can't remember which one now (I think it may have been one of the ones with Chloe).

Tess & the whole Luthor mansion setup now (with all those female lackeys) reminds me of an episode of the original (first) Knight Rider series titled Knight in Retreat. In that episode, the criminal was a very evil woman named Bianca who had a retreat she set up for physicists where she would have them seduced & blackmailed in exchange for information on technology the physicists were working on that were being shipped. The retreat in that episode had a bunch of women working for Bianca who would prep the physicists for Bianca's final seduction. The episode opened up with the women drying off Bianca as she got out of the shower. I always thought there was much more going on in that retreat than they showed. Bianca was played by Ann Turkel, who also played Adrienne Margot, a recurring criminal who was also very evil and was killed along with Garth Knight when Goliath (the truck) went off a cliff. Ann Turkel is awesome at playing criminals/villians and if anyone wants to see a truly evil female character, I would highly recommend watching the episode she played Adrienne & Bianca (Soul Survivor, Goliath Returns Parts 1 & 2, and Knight in Retreat).

[BULLITT]

Leather.:D

[RJLCyberPunk]

;) Regardless, the idea is refreshing. There's certainly been enough past speculation on the undercurrent between Clark and Lex. Why not Tess and any number of characters? Did they thought they were gay too? :eek:Yech!

'AndieGirl', I like your Thoughts about it, and I Agree with how YOU'VE assessed the situation. And Yes, 'SteveS', I Agree with you, too. IMHO, it's people's own Fantasy lives that's fueling these conclusions.

Indeed so maybe they should write a fanfiction about it and be done with it I mean Lois and Mercer together? It would make for very hot reading for sure...

[Aloof]

What about Clark and Lex? Ahaaa.

[RJLCyberPunk]

What about Clark and Lex? Ahaaa.

That is just sick not too mention completely against canon sources...

[Minela]

I think Tess wants Lois real badly. :D There is real tension there. Hot.

[Aloof]

Hey, you never know. She kind of seems like she's giving off the vibe. Considering the dirty minds that the writers have, who knows! :lol:

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

I really have to ask because I have been watching the show and nothing so far has given me any inkling of her being either a lesbian or a Bi, I have noticed that she is ruthless and dtermined to get what she wants at any cost but a Lesbian or a Bi? And please refrain from posting any kind of interview with the actress in which she might have given an inkling that she (the actress) is bisexual or not since we are talking about the character and not the actress, please keep that in mind...

I've been wondering the same thing. I've seen the scenes from Odyssey and Instinct, that people say is Tess being interested in both Lois and Maxima, but I still haven't seen anything like that. She hasn't acted bi or lesbian on the show; atleast IMO.

[Minela]

That is just sick not too mention completely against canon sources...

Are you seriously just finding out about the Clex? It's been a major ship on this board and even TW and MR have joked about it.

[RedKRules]

They get the idea from their fantasy life, apparently a place where quite a viewers live almost full time.

Totally agree with you Steve:lol:

[abbaspice1]

You know, I REALLY don't think it is necessary to link 'sick' with 'gay'.

People don't see Chlark, others do.

People don't see Clois, others do.

However, I don't remember people linking the word 'sick' with either of these two relationships.

I saw the chemistry between Tess and Lois. Sorry if you can't see the possibilities. I also saw the chemistry between Lex and Clark. Again, sorry if you can't.

It is NOT sick. It is an alternative.

[RedKRules]

it is not about if you can´t see it or not ..... it is about making something that is not real into a fact! there are alternatives yes, but that was not the case .....

[Minela]

it is not about if you can´t see it or not ..... it is about making something that is not real into a fact! there are alternatives yes, but that was not the case .....

Same can be said about Chlark. :cool:

[abbaspice1]

^^ITA!!!^^^

[AndiGirl]

Same can be said about Chlark. :cool:

Same could also be said about Clois...I'm sorry, but that was a low blow and you didnt need to go there. :(

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Thats the point...we all see what we want. Just leave it at that, and stop ripping on ships people. Man...it's officially annoying.

[xrayvision]

I don't think Maxima was interested in the Tessvage. :p

[abbaspice1]

No, but Tess seemed VERY interested in Maxima.

[Minela]

Same could also be said about Clois...I'm sorry, but that was a low blow and you didnt need to go there. :(

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Thats the point...we all see what we want. Just leave it at that, and stop ripping on ships people. Man...it's officially annoying.

Sorry about that. It was a low blow, but it was just a reaction to what was said about Clex and other ships that aren't officially 'show ships' but people still see something there. To make if up to you, here is a great Clex vid:

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwPfoeQRfk&feature=related

[redkryptoniteisthebest]

Was I the only one to think, "Uh-oh. Lesbian scene."? Haha, I was thinking that until the time Maxima asked for the key. Anyone else think the same thing?

[Storm45]

I think it shows how Tess is the new Lex. Some saw sexual tension between Lex and almost any males he had scenes with.

[Darkside]

So what if she is or not? Who cares. I don't see why people have to make a big deal about it.

[abbaspice1]

There are quite a few of us. I think this is the 4th thread about this topic.

[xrayvision]

I think it shows how Tess is the new Lex. Some saw sexual tension between Lex and almost any males he had scenes with.

I never ever picked up any of that with Lex. He was obsessed with Clark's secret as we knew, but didn't want Clark for his own pleasure toy. With others (like Adam Knight, Jason) I saw him have psychological sparring contests as he dug into their past. Later on, it got much worse when he became more threatening as he did when he first met Brainiac (though he was on the losing end) and other characters. I didn't see any sexual tension in other scenes with him & Ollie, Aquaman, or anyone else. He was just an evil bastard who wanted to know & find out everything.

[Aloof]

So what if she is or not? Who cares. I don't see why people have to make a big deal about it.

Yeah, I agree. I really don't see any indication of her being bisexual TBH.

[Sweetie]

No.Maxima was looking for a men.So why would she wasted her time with Tess.I was expecting a discussion about the crystal nothing more.But,it was funny when Maxima threw Tess across the room.It was like a flashback of Lex and Clark :D

[abbaspice1]

^^I think the focus is on TESS being bisexual, not Maxima.

[AndiGirl]

Sorry about that. It was a low blow, but it was just a reaction to what was said about Clex and other ships that aren't officially 'show ships' but people still see something there. To make if up to you, here is a great Clex vid:

http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=cvwPfoeQRfk&feature=related

It's ok hun, :)
I overreacted...I think I'm a tad hyper sensitive to all things chlark right now. :lol:
You are right though...Clex could be a legitimate ship. If ppl see it...then it's legit.

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Thats actually an amazing vid! They almost made a believer out of me!!!

[Aldo]

It would be cool if she indeed is Bisexual :p

Seriously tho, who cares what her sexuality is...it won't be making a difference, Tess has a purpose this season (I want to believe) and That's what it should be important about her character, not some sort of "tag".

[jon-el87]

Since, Tess is a villan, I think they should really avoid having her be bi or lesbian. You have to agree, it's a little homophobic to have one of the main villans be gay. Especially, when none of the good guys are gay.

[27CDruid]

How exactly is it homophobic? Is it a rule that there must be a gay good guy before a gay bad guy is allowed? Thats rediculous!

Not enough proof on tess's orientation yet really and i dont care that much as long as she keeps being a b****.

[RJLCyberPunk]

I never ever picked up any of that with Lex. He was obsessed with Clark's secret as we knew, but didn't want Clark for his own pleasure toy. With others (like Adam Knight, Jason) I saw him have psychological sparring contests as he dug into their past. Later on, it got much worse when he became more threatening as he did when he first met Brainiac (though he was on the losing end) and other characters. I didn't see any sexual tension in other scenes with him & Ollie, Aquaman, or anyone else. He was just an evil bastard who wanted to know & find out everything.
Exactly, exactly, exactly in fact other than a few most of us did not see Clark and Lex as being potential mates or anything even remotely close to that. But there are people that somehow for whatever reason they tend to sexualize every aspect of the show no matter how trivial...

[Smallville6]

^Wow, you guys are getting really low.
I think everyone is taking this way too seriously. Most posts I've read saying Tess is bi-sexual, they were just joking (like me). And with my first post on here, someone pounced right on me, saying my post wasn't important (I'm looking at you RJLCyberPunk) Some people on here aren't serious 100% of the time and like to joke around. Talking about someone's sexuality shouldnt include bashing other ships. Clex is a huge ship, whether you think so or not, I know lots of Clexers. So stop bashing people who believe in that.

[RJLCyberPunk]

^Wow, you guys are getting really low.
I think everyone is taking this way too seriously. Most posts I've read saying Tess is bi-sexual, they were just joking (like me). And with my first post on here, someone pounced right on me, saying my post wasn't important (I'm looking at you RJLCyberPunk) Some people on here aren't serious 100% of the time and like to joke around. Talking about someone's sexuality shouldnt include bashing other ships. Clex is a huge ship, whether you think so or not, I know lots of Clexers. So stop bashing people who believe in that.

Now that is bollocks I never once in this thread said that anybody's post is not important, what I've said is that none of you bring any concrete evidence to support the Theory of Mercer being Gay/Bi which is what this thread is about, I could care less about anybody's shipping fantasies, everybody has the right to imagine whatever they want but that one fantasizes, dreams etc, about something does not make it real either and the point is and remains that there is no proof to support that your fantasy and that of quite a few around here simply doesn't pan out...

[abbaspice1]

Now that is bollocks I never once in this thread said that anybody's post is not important, what I've said is that none of you bring any concrete evidence to support the Theory of Mercer being Gay/Bi which is what this thread is about, I could care less about anybody's shipping fantasies, everybody has the right to imagine whatever they want but that one fantasizes, dreams etc, about something does not make it real either and the point is and remains that there is no proof to support that your fantasy and that of quite a few around here simply doesn't pan out...

Sorry if you don't see it. Some of us saw the way Lois and Tess interacted and saw sexual tension. It is in the EYE of the BEHOLDER.

There are tons of ships like that on this board.

It is a feeling we got when we saw her interact with other females. She is too new of a character to have tons of evidence either way.

And if is kind of funny that the only ships you are accusing of 'sexualize every aspect of the show no matter how trivial' are the gay/bi ships. BTW, gay/bisexuality is NOT only about sex. It is about interact, emotions, etc--- the same stuff as the hetero-ships. They are NOT sick.

[LovelyLoisLane]

Thank you abba.

Because I happen to BE bi and I saw a vibe from their scenes. I won't out and out make any conclusions but the chemistry there definitely lends itself to at the very least, bi-curiosity.

That is my opinion, it is a valid one, and I don't appreciate being told I'm living in a fantasy world and I certainly won't tolerate a negative bias against bis or gays on this board.

It is very much about chemistry, I'm glad you pointed that out abba, and this idea that to be a slash shipper is ALL sexual is insulting.

If you don't agree that's fine, hey I'm a Lois fan, I'm used to people disagreeing with me, calling me names, insulting my opinion, but you don't need to take your dislike out on others.

[abbaspice1]

You are welcome LovelyLoisLane.

BTW, I love your handle. And your AVI.

[LovelyLoisLane]

You are welcome LovelyLoisLane.

BTW, I love your handle. And your AVI.

Thank you very much :D

For the support and . . . the support. ;)

[RJLCyberPunk]

Sorry if you don't see it. Some of us saw the way Lois and Tess interacted and saw sexual tension. It is in the EYE of the BEHOLDER.

There are tons of ships like that on this board.

It is a feeling we got when we saw her interact with other females. She is too new of a character to have tons of evidence either way.

And if is kind of funny that the only ships you are accusing of 'sexualize every aspect of the show no matter how trivial' are the gay/bi ships. BTW, gay/bisexuality is NOT only about sex. It is about interact, emotions, etc--- the same stuff as the hetero-ships. They are NOT sick.
Preceislely she is anew character so it would be advisable for anyoen to wait untile there is actual conclusive evidence to say that the character is actually gay/bisexual and as I said I could care less about shippers and what they think as that is for them and them alone to sort out, what I'm trying to sort out here is the fact that so far there is no shred of evidence to point out that the character has homosexual/bisexual tendencies.


Thank you abba.

Because I happen to BE bi and I saw a vibe from their scenes. I won't out and out make any conclusions but the chemistry there definitely lends itself to at the very least, bi-curiosity.

That is my opinion, it is a valid one, and I don't appreciate being told I'm living in a fantasy world and I certainly won't tolerate a negative bias against bis or gays on this board.

It is very much about chemistry, I'm glad you pointed that out abba, and this idea that to be a slash shipper is ALL sexual is insulting.

If you don't agree that's fine, hey I'm a Lois fan, I'm used to people disagreeing with me, calling me names, insulting my opinion, but you don't need to take your dislike out on others.

Hey you are Bi? Great the more power to you, it also means you probably get more chances at dates and so on, I really could care less about your lifestyle since that is not what is at issue here, what is at issue is that some are claiming that the character of Tess Mercer is Gay/Bisexual without any kind of shred of evidence to support such a claim.

[ginnyfan]

I think Tess is like Lionel in that she savors everything and everyone. You know wine tasting? Someone walks in. She swirls them in her glass. Gives them a sniff. And tastes. LOL!

[LovelyLoisLane]

I think Tess is like Lionel in that she savors everything and everyone. You know wine tasting? Someone walks in. She swirls them in her glass. Gives them a sniff. And tastes. LOL!

Maybe so. She certainly has a chemistry with Lois. I didn't really see it with Maxima, but then again the outfit made me distracted (Maxima's not Tess') and there's the whole alien-chick-chokes-tess scenario which didn't lend itself to much of a vibe. Unless it is the start of a Playboy story.

I STILL don't think it was Oliver that sent that dress by the way.
Though clearly whoever did is color blind. :p

Cyber, I don't like the way you feel you need to yell in your posts, and I've already reported the homphobic posts in this thread. Which is really what I think it is about.

Because there is never much in the way of 'proof' or 'evidence' as far as chemistry goes, it is ALL in the eye of the beholder. I saw a vibe coming from Tess towards Lois. You didn't. That doesn't mean I have no reason to believe that vibe is there. We don't need to hear Tess say she is bi, and quite frankly on a CW show I don't think we ever will, in order to think it could be a possibility.

Which is all it is to the few of us that like it. We don't have enough to go on to think of it as anything but a possibility yet, but a possibility it remains.

I'm not living in a fantasy land to see what I see and I don't have any respect at all for someone that would accuse me of such.

[ginnyfan]

I hope that Oliver didn't send that dress. It would make his gift of Lois in Season 6 more cheap. As though he gives a dress to all the ladies. Also... from the last conversation Oliver and Tess had... I doubt he would ask her on a date.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Cyber, I don't like the way you feel you need to yell in your posts, and I've already reported the homphobic posts in this thread. Which is really what I think it is about.
Then you'd be wrong as it has nothign to do with that, what consentiing adults do is their business and their business alone...


Because there is never much in the way of 'proof' or 'evidence' as far as chemistry goes, it is ALL in the eye of the beholder. I saw a vibe coming from Tess towards Lois. You didn't. That doesn't mean I have no reason to believe that vibe is there. We don't need to hear Tess say she is bi, and quite frankly on a CW show I don't think we ever will, in order to think it could be a possibility.

Which is all it is to the few of us that like it. We don't have enough to go on to think of it as anything but a possibility yet, but a possibility it remains.

I'm not living in a fantasy land to see what I see and I don't have any respect at all for someone that would accuse me of such.

First of having a fantasy or fantasies about a character is not the same as living in a fantasyland, fantasyworld as you put it. A vibe is just that a feeling that you get on a personal level and mostly according to your own whims and desires it does not mean that what yiou feel about that person or character is the truth it's just a feeling. You want to fantasize and believe that Tess is a Bi you are more welcome to it, but it does not mean is true, I have been in plenty of other boards and this is the only one where the shippers seem hellbent on imposing their views on everyone else. In Stargate SG-1 for example they were tons of O'Neal/Jackson shippers and they even sort of paid homage to that in the show's 200th episode but it never came about in the show's episode discussions that they had to be Gay for X reason or X reason, this is the only board where I have seen that happen and not only that but they want to make their vibes the "reality" of the show when it isn't...

[ginnyfan]

You know, I REALLY don't think it is necessary to link 'sick' with 'gay'.

People don't see Chlark, others do.

People don't see Clois, others do.

However, I don't remember people linking the word 'sick' with either of these two relationships.

I saw the chemistry between Tess and Lois. Sorry if you can't see the possibilities. I also saw the chemistry between Lex and Clark. Again, sorry if you can't.

It is NOT sick. It is an alternative.

Great post. I agree.

[redRound]

I don't know why there needs to be evidence that she's gay/bi, where is the evidence that she's straight? I see none of it. No one knows what her sexual orientation is.

And as for Clex, there was definite homoerotic undertones throughout the show. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there, or that it's mere fantasy. MR has gone on record saying that he and Tom played up the gay vibe. Tom even shouted Clex, instead of Lex, in two of the episodes. :lol:

[RJLCyberPunk]

I don't know why there needs to be evidence that she's gay/bi, where is the evidence that she's straight? I see none of it. No one knows what her sexual orientation is.

And as for Clex, there was definite homoerotic undertones throughout the show. Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there, or that it's mere fantasy. MR has gone on record saying that he and Tom played up the gay vibe. Tom even shouted Clex, instead of Lex, in two of the episodes. :lol: Well actually the fact that she dated Green Arrow long ago and that she has made sort of sexual advances to Clark points to her being straight more than it does of her being Gay or Bi. And granted at this point her sexual orientation is a mistery and in fact probably not even relevant to the show unless they plan to write an actual relationship between Mercer and a member of her staff or even more unlikely between Mercer and LOIS or Mercer and Chloe since both have come out thru out the show as straight and not any other way around.

And in regards to Clex and refferences to it on the show so what? As I said they did the same in Stargate's 200th episode but it does not mean the characters are or where ever gay.

[DontCha]

Just my opinion..

I thought this after the time she first met Lois and when she first saw maxima.

the look on her face both times had me thinking..."hmmm, i dont look at other women like that" lol

anyone else pick up on this both times?

[Aldo]

Oh, boy this topic has gotten to far away...
...Wasn't this suppossed to be for fun?

[Clana4Life]

The whole Clex thing is news to me, but I think we all know that both Clark and Lex only liked women and a particular woman at that. No need to guess or hypothesize about that one. As for Tess, the only relationship I know of that she's had so far is with Oliver. And she seems to have (or have had) some sort of romantic thing with Lex. And she's looked at Clark in a way that makes one think she might be interested in him. So I think she's probably straight. She has a strong "death stare" or "cold-blooded stare" that some might see as "sexual" but I did not see any interest in Maxima. She wanted her out the house and commented on her "costume" wardrobe. It almost came across as her thinking Maxima was beneath her. As for Lois, it seems like she likes to intimidate her as she does everyone else. But I think she has a certain amount of respect for Lois, because Lois takes chances - but other than that, Lois doesn't seem to mean very much to her if anything. It's all about Lex and her underhand doings. People are means to that end for her. Whether people see Clex or Tois/Less, it won't be explored except maybe in fanfic. I think TPTB are really focusing on Clois. Just my two cents.

[redRound]

Well actually the fact that she dated Green Arrow long ago and that she has made sort of sexual advances to Clark points to her being straight more than it does of her being Gay or Bi.
No it doesn't.

You obviously like to go around assuming that everyone is straight until some kind of "evidence" suggests otherwise. Well, not everyone subscribes to that heterosexist view. You don't know what Tess' orientation is period. And the same goes for Clex.

[Stu.Kent]

i didn't really wanna get involved in this thread but im gonna anyway so here's my two cents: RJLCyberPunk seems to me a teeny bit homophobic. also i'd watch this show if every single character was gay, what difference does it make?

[jimmyolsenblues]

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