View Full Version : Chlark....actually over?
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
As much as it breaks my heart....I officially admitt Chlark is over. :(
Now..I dont want to start a huge Chlark/Clois debate in here...so if you have that intention, please dont comment. I want to keep it civil...and to only talk about chlark. Thanks. :)
I think it's officially signed and sealed. I kind of wanted more of a talk...but I thought it was very cute all things considering. Chloe saying "you blew it buddy"...there were never truer words uttered. The time came and passed. But its nice to see how much they really do mean to eachother. He will always be her "bff."
I cant lie though...I am incredibly broken hearted. It's sad to want something for so long and to have a clear "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" sign finally thrown in your face...it's a jagged little pill to swallow! :\
Who knows, maybe I'm the only chlarker who felt that way....so go ahead and discuss. But to me...they finally addressed it....and the time has passed. But I still dont think Jimmy is the "one" for her either. So..who knows.
Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Well, I'm both a Chlark and Clois fan, but I do admit, seeing the closure was pretty sad. :(
cotton candy girl
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
As much as it breaks my heart....I officially admitt Chlark is over. :(
Now..I dont want to start a huge Chlark/Clois debate in here...so if you have that intention, please dont comment. I want to keep it civil...and to only talk about chlark. Thanks. :)
I think it's officially signed and sealed. I kind of wanted more of a talk...but I thought it was very cute all things considering. Chloe saying "you blew it buddy"...there were never truer words uttered. The time came and passed. But its nice to see how much they really do mean to eachother. He will always be her "bff."
I cant lie though...I am incredibly broken hearted. It's sad to want something for so long and to have a clear "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" sign finally thrown in your face...it's a jagged little pill to swallow! :\
Who knows, maybe I'm the only chlarker who felt that way....so go ahead and discuss. But to me...they finally addressed it....and the time has passed. But I still dont think Jimmy is the "one" for her either. So..who knows.
Yeah, I think the fever letter was brought back to show that Chloe has moved on.
myankskent
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
IMO, Chlark has been over for a very long time but I think that TPTB clarified it for us in the best way possible. Chloe is clearly happy with Jimmy and Clark is clearly happy for both of them. Obviously this means nothing to a Chlark fan who wants to see them together, but I think that TPTB could've handled this situation a lot worse knowing their writing history.
hanna1804
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
Noooooooo!!! Please!! I LOVE them, it can't be over OVER... I know I'm in denial but I just have to wait and see that scene, but things ALWAYS change in Smallville so who knows, if not now maybe later...
CHLARK FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
double L
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
Chlark, post season 2, did not make much sense. They are good friends that's it. We all know that.
Chlois, has always been completly ridiculous.
Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:26 PM
I don't think so guys. Just wait for episode 8 or 9 this season. Heart wrencher.
RedKRules
10-09-2008, 07:27 PM
As much as it breaks my heart....I officially admitt Chlark is over. :(
Now..I dont want to start a huge Chlark/Clois debate in here...so if you have that intention, please dont comment. I want to keep it civil...and to only talk about chlark. Thanks. :)
I think it's officially signed and sealed. I kind of wanted more of a talk...but I thought it was very cute all things considering. Chloe saying "you blew it buddy"...there were never truer words uttered. The time came and passed. But its nice to see how much they really do mean to eachother. He will always be her "bff."
I cant lie though...I am incredibly broken hearted. It's sad to want something for so long and to have a clear "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" sign finally thrown in your face...it's a jagged little pill to swallow! :\
Who knows, maybe I'm the only chlarker who felt that way....so go ahead and discuss. But to me...they finally addressed it....and the time has passed. But I still dont think Jimmy is the "one" for her either. So..who knows.
I totally feel the same Andi, :(:(:( ..... and thatīs why I am quitting this Switchville with all the Chlark good memories, before the bad ones erase all of them .... :(:(:(
btw No Other SHIP will ever be able to top Chlark ..... never !!
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Noooooooo!!! :cry:
*hug hanna* I know it sucks doesnīt it?
Smallville6
10-09-2008, 07:28 PM
I'm pretty sure it is at this point but I cant really tell yet.
I think Commited will contribute to the answer too.
theotherJane
10-09-2008, 07:30 PM
I pretty much knew that the Fever letter will put the final nail in the Chlark coffin, when I first heard about the spoilers.
For the longest time, I thought that Clark wasn't going to find out, because Jimmy never told Clark directly that the letter was about him, so I have to say that I was surprised to see when Chloe brought the letter out in the open like it was no big deal to Clark. That's when I finally knew that they're both over it, since she's mature enough to talk about it.
Minela
10-09-2008, 07:31 PM
I think the Chlakr/Chimmy was used as a metaphor to Clana/Clois. The entire episode was about first loves and future soulmates. I liked it. I also really liked when Chloe said, "You blew it buddy." It was playful and and didn't have any of that sucky angst.
Khyla
10-09-2008, 07:31 PM
CHLARK WILL NEVER BE OVER!
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, I think the fever letter was brought back to show that Chloe has moved on.
If Chloe is truly over Clark...then I'm all for it. But I dont want the writers to do their typical thing and say Chloe is over him....then make them kiss while he's on redk....or have intense moments that are clearly not just friendship. :\
Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:32 PM
"It's not overrr~!"
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:33 PM
IMO, Chlark has been over for a very long time but I think that TPTB clarified it for us in the best way possible. Chloe is clearly happy with Jimmy and Clark is clearly happy for both of them. Obviously this means nothing to a Chlark fan who wants to see them together, but I think that TPTB could've handled this situation a lot worse knowing their writing history.
I do think it was a sweet way to do it. And I love how chloe said "you blew it buddy..." because I think part of him new he did, because now he'll never know.
As far as Chimmy is concerned...I'm still not convinced she's madly in love with him. If anything, the letter showed me that Chloe is capable of an extremely intense love...like the kind she had for clark. And I dont want to see her settle.
myankskent
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
If Chloe is truly over Clark...then I'm all for it. But I dont want the writers to do their typical thing and say Chloe is over him....then make them kiss while he's on redk....or have intense moments that are clearly not just friendship. :\
Leaving the intense moments aside, because I'm sure opinions would vary when it comes to that, Chlark haven't kissed since "Vessel" which is now a pretty long time. I don't think that they will kiss again, unless it's a flashback.
Aries83
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
I think they both know it won't happen, but I still think she'll have a certain "air" about her when she's around Clark. They're like magnets...I don't know how to explain what I mean, but ...Clark is her favorite and she'll always treat him that way...But know it can't be more than that.
RedKRules
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
and they ended it in the coldest way .... congratulations PS3!! btw I would change you for Al/Miles anytime .... because you guys suck!
hanna1804
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
And again: No, no and NO!!!!
cksidekick
10-09-2008, 07:35 PM
i did not need that scene...Clark and Chloe did not need that scene...i think many fans DID need that scene...i'm glad it's done...now we can move on...like Clark and Chloe did years ago...
RedKRules
10-09-2008, 07:37 PM
yeah thanks to that I will be able to move on from Switchville ....!! yaaaaahh!!
Alexander III
10-09-2008, 07:37 PM
It never happened so how will there be "over"? Yikes!
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:37 PM
I think the Chlakr/Chimmy was used as a metaphor to Clana/Clois. The entire episode was about first loves and future soulmates. I liked it. I also really liked when Chloe said, "You blew it buddy." It was playful and and didn't have any of that sucky angst.
Thats true...I didnt think about that. First loves last forever...but that doesnt mean you cant move on. :)
But please...dear lord, I dont want Chimmy!! :lol: I can accept Chlark wont happen...but no Chimmy!
Fallen One
10-09-2008, 07:38 PM
Andigirl, you are the coolest Chlarker I know and one of the best posters on the forum. I would never wish heartbreak on you.
I'm sorry about your hurt :\
.
Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:39 PM
Andigirl, you are the coolest Chlarker I know and one of the best posters on the forum. I would never wish heartbreak on you.
I'm sorry about your hurt.
One more post and your post count goes to 666 :eek:
theotherJane
10-09-2008, 07:39 PM
Thats true...I didnt think about that. First loves last forever...but that doesnt mean you cant move on. :)
But please...dear lord, I dont want Chimmy!! :lol: I can accept Chlark wont happen...but no Chimmy!
I agree with Minela, except that Chimmy won't last. And Clois is forever! :;)
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:40 PM
Leaving the intense moments aside, because I'm sure opinions would vary when it comes to that, Chlark haven't kissed since "Vessel" which is now a pretty long time. I don't think that they will kiss again, unless it's a flashback.
They havent kissed....thats true. But how many times did Chimmy break up over chlark...and other moments with intense stares....that didnt really scream "We're platonic friends!!" I guess it does depend on the perspective....but I've seen plenty of moments since that kiss that didnt look very friendly.
As long as those stop...I'm ok. The writers did the dirty deed and ended it...now just let me walk away. Thats all I ask! :lol:
Tigergal05
10-09-2008, 07:41 PM
I pretty much knew that the Fever letter will put the final nail in the Chlark coffin, when I first heard about the spoilers.
For the longest time, I thought that Clark wasn't going to find out, because Jimmy never told Clark directly that the letter was about him, so I have to say that I was surprised to see when Chloe brought the letter out in the open like it was no big deal to Clark. That's when I finally knew that they're both over it, since she's mature enough to talk about it.
I agree.
I have to say-Chloe's reaction to Clark's question about the letter was very nonchalant and it was clear that it was easy for her to discuss it with him..no implied looks/stares or lines this time..as Chloe said, "You're my BFF."..they were always friends-and nothing more.
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:43 PM
Andigirl, you are the coolest Chlarker I know and one of the best posters on the forum. I would never wish heartbreak on you.
I'm sorry about your hurt :\
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Awww, thank you very much Cedric. :)
I think I will be ok....it's just hard to want to see a relationship for 7 years to finally realize it will never happen. I've always known deep down that it wouldnt. But to actually have it written out....clear as day....is a bit rough.
But I'm a tough girl!! :rotfl:. As long as Chloe and Clark get their happy endings...I'm happy.
individuall
10-09-2008, 07:45 PM
Andi Sweetie! *hugs* I'm sorry your heart broken! :(
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:46 PM
It never happened so how will there be "over"? Yikes!
Ok...maybe a better title would have been "never going to happen." :lol:
But seriously guys...not trying to be a pain, but for some of us chlarkers this was a hard thing to finally accept. (For those of us who are accepting it)...so could we try not to be overly sarcastic or judgemental.
We all prefer different ships...and thats fine. But this has been 7 years for some of us, so it's kind of a hard thing. So be gentle. :\;)
babyluthor
10-09-2008, 07:46 PM
I have always been a Chlarker, so I was a little sad by what happened. It certainly looks like Chloe has moved on. I do think they handled the situation pretty well. They incorporated humor and made sure to show they still have a special relationship.
Clark and Lois are now starting to get closer and it would be hard for that to happen if Clark started getting involved with Chloe, so in that case I see why they made the decision not to go with Chlark. Although I do think a Clark/Chloe/Lois love triangle would be pretty interesting!
theotherJane
10-09-2008, 07:46 PM
I agree.
I have to say-Chloe's reaction to Clark's question about the letter was very nonchalant and it was clear that it was easy for her to discuss it with him..no implied looks/stares or lines this time..as Chloe said, "You're my BFF."..they were always friends-and nothing more.
I agree. Plus, there were no lingering camera shots and it's not like we saw Chloe hiding the letter from Clark...the fact that she was the one who brought it up in the open is what makes me think that she's really moved on. Also, the way she practically threw herself over Jimmy while he was in the hospital tells the viewers that she cares for/loves him deeply.
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Ok...maybe a better title would have been "never going to happen." :lol:
But seriously guys...not trying to be a pain, but for some of us chlarkers this was a hard thing to finally accept. (For those of us who are accepting it)...so could we try not to be overly sarcastic or judgemental.
We all prefer different ships...and thats fine. But this has been 7 years for some of us, so it's kind of a hard thing. So be gentle. :\;)
There's always Chloe/Davis. You gotta admit that they have more chemistry than Chimmy. :D
Jade4813
10-09-2008, 07:47 PM
As much as it breaks my heart....I officially admitt Chlark is over. :(
Now..I dont want to start a huge Chlark/Clois debate in here...so if you have that intention, please dont comment. I want to keep it civil...and to only talk about chlark. Thanks. :)
I think it's officially signed and sealed. I kind of wanted more of a talk...but I thought it was very cute all things considering. Chloe saying "you blew it buddy"...there were never truer words uttered. The time came and passed. But its nice to see how much they really do mean to eachother. He will always be her "bff."
I cant lie though...I am incredibly broken hearted. It's sad to want something for so long and to have a clear "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" sign finally thrown in your face...it's a jagged little pill to swallow! :\
Who knows, maybe I'm the only chlarker who felt that way....so go ahead and discuss. But to me...they finally addressed it....and the time has passed. But I still dont think Jimmy is the "one" for her either. So..who knows.
Awwww...*hugs*
I wish I could make you feel better, hon! (I may not be a Chlarker, but as Chlarkers go, you're one of my favorites.)
Well, at least it's pretty clear that they're not touching the Chlark friendship, which I know has worried some people. And I liked Chloe's like about...er...don't remember it exactly, but when she said that what she and Clark had together was special. It's also nice to know that Chloe isn't hurting over Clark any longer...I hated seeing her hurt so much in the past.
I agree that I'm not feeling Jimmy as her true love, but I can always hope, at least that we get to see her finding her true love. As I've said before, I want at the end to see and believe that all the characters will find their happiness!
Where can we petition to bring George back? (Or, I'll say again, "Take the Doom out of Bloome!" Brainiac or no Brainiac, no way all of her macking on Davis is because of a friggin' computer!)
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:48 PM
Andi Sweetie! *hugs* I'm sorry your heart broken!
*Hugs* Thank you Kaitlyn.
I feel a bit silly that it hit me this hard!! :lol:
I keep thinking "Its just a show...why am I upset?" but I honestly always expected it...its just rought to finally face it after 7 years. But I'm glad it was obvious Chloe was comfortable talking about it...and I truly believe she's moved on from him. Now the writers just need to keep that mentality going and I'll be happy!! :)
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Awwww...*hugs*
I wish I could make you feel better, hon! (I may not be a Chlarker, but as Chlarkers go, you're one of my favorites.)
Well, at least it's pretty clear that they're not touching the Chlark friendship, which I know has worried some people. And I liked Chloe's like about...er...don't remember it exactly, but when she said that what she and Clark had together was special. It's also nice to know that Chloe isn't hurting over Clark any longer...I hated seeing her hurt so much in the past.
I agree that I'm not feeling Jimmy as her true love, but I can always hope, at least that we get to see her finding her true love. As I've said before, I want at the end to see and believe that all the characters will find their happiness!
Where can we petition to bring George back? (Or, I'll say again, "Take the Doom out of Bloome!" Brainiac or no Brainiac, no way all of her macking on Davis is because of a friggin' computer!)
Oh...you are fabulous Jade!!! :rotfl:
Thanks so much. I'm coming to terms with it....and as long as Chloe and Clark are truly happy I'm on board.
I just dont want Chimmy at all. Thats one thing that upsets me. When Clark/Lois are talking about epic love..it's obvious they will find it! :p. I just want Chloe to get the same thing...and I dont think thats Jimmy
Seriously....where the heck is George hiding his cute little butt!!!
Fallen One
10-09-2008, 07:51 PM
One more post and your post count goes to 666 :eek:
What are you trying say?
Oh.. wait.. you're right..
But hey! What are you trying to say!
Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:52 PM
What are you trying say?
Oh.. wait.. you're right..
But hey! What are you trying to say!
Name is fallen one and your post cont is 666... hmm...:eek:
Jade4813
10-09-2008, 07:52 PM
Oh...you are fabulous Jade!!! :rotfl:
Thanks so much. I'm coming to terms with it....and as long as Chloe and Clark are truly happy I'm on board.
I just dont want Chimmy at all. Thats one thing that upsets me. When Clark/Lois are talking about epic love..it's obvious they will find it! :p. I just want Chloe to get the same thing...and I dont think thats Jimmy
Seriously....where the heck is George hiding his cute little butt!!!
Hmmm...good question! I say we play hide and seek!
*grabs a trenchcoat and starts going door to door with a photograph* "Excuse me, ma'am. Have you seen this gorgeous rear? I mean...uh...guy?"
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:52 PM
There's always Chloe/Davis. You gotta admit that they have more chemistry than Chimmy. :D
If they could just find a way to seperate dooms and Davis....oh...it would make my little chlarker heart sooooo happy!!! :lol:
Storm45
10-09-2008, 07:53 PM
It's a good thing that Chloe won't be pining for Clark anymore. As I said she should haved moved on after season 3.
In fact I have to wonder why they brought it back in season 4 when they were going to do nothing about it.
But as for Jimmy being her perfect man and future soulmate... I don't see it. They can tell it and try to force it down my throat. I simply can't picture this.
Superman of Krypton
10-09-2008, 07:53 PM
:|
.... Are you people for real??
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:53 PM
Hmmm...good question! I say we play hide and seek!
*grabs a trenchcoat and starts going door to door with a photograph* "Excuse me, ma'am. Have you seen this gorgeous rear? I mean...uh...guy?"
:rotfl:. "Oli Oli Oxen Free!!!!" You can come out now George....it's safe!
silverdragon
10-09-2008, 07:57 PM
glad that they both got the closure they needed...it was a long time coming...
Meteror Freak
10-09-2008, 08:08 PM
I don't think Chlark is over because of the way they brought up Lana who came between Chlark, who is now gone. I think we will see just a little bit of Chlark before it finally ends.
Jade4813
10-09-2008, 08:12 PM
:rotfl:. "Oli Oli Oxen Free!!!!" You can come out now George....it's safe!
"Chloe doesn't bite...much! She may nibble!"
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 08:13 PM
"Chloe doesn't bite...much! She may nibble!"
Oh...I think she bites, but unlike Jimmy...George can handle it. :o:lol:
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I don't think Chlark is over because of the way they brought up Lana who came between Chlark, who is now gone. I think we will see just a little bit of Chlark before it finally ends.
I think it's just over for me. Even if they try to hint at more...I'm not biting anymore. :(
I have felt your pain AndiGirl and I hope you cope with it better than I did. I was a HUGE fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and developed an obsession with an "unconventional 'ship". I lived and breathed by a certain look, smile or phrasing of the spoken words. When the show ended my OTP really didn't seem to even like each other any more. I admit that this has made me bitter...Bitter and gunshy. To this day, I will not watch anything Joss Whedon is attached to. As a matter of fact, it has burned me so badly that I quit watching CSI when they hooked Grissom up with Sara. If I hadn't already been emotionally invested in Smallville and Known beyond a shadow of a doubt that Lois and Clark would eventually become THE couple, I wouldn't have watched beyond season 2.
I hope you never reach this level of brokenheartedness. TV is meant to be entertaining instead of painful. Good luck.
IMO, Chlark has been over for a very long time but I think that TPTB clarified it for us in the best way possible. Chloe is clearly happy with Jimmy and Clark is clearly happy for both of them. Obviously this means nothing to a Chlark fan who wants to see them together, but I think that TPTB could've handled this situation a lot worse knowing their writing history.
Yes, I agree with this... it could have been worse.
I did think that the scene was cute where Chloe said "You blew it" and called him her "BFF". I liked Chlark in this episode, because it was great friendship Chlark... and I do enjoy friendship Chlark.
Dor el
10-09-2008, 08:52 PM
Tearfully, I believe I hear Amazing Grace being played on the bagpipes.
kiariclois
10-09-2008, 08:53 PM
He's her BFF. So I say it's not over, it will never be. I'm talking about Chlark friendship of course. It's always been that. :p
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 08:54 PM
I have felt your pain AndiGirl and I hope you cope with it better than I did. I was a HUGE fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and developed an obsession with an "unconventional 'ship". I lived and breathed by a certain look, smile or phrasing of the spoken words. When the show ended my OTP really didn't seem to even like each other any more. I admit that this has made me bitter...Bitter and gunshy. To this day, I will not watch anything Joss Whedon is attached to. As a matter of fact, it has burned me so badly that I quit watching CSI when they hooked Grissom up with Sara. If I hadn't already been emotionally invested in Smallville and Known beyond a shadow of a doubt that Lois and Clark would eventually become THE couple, I wouldn't have watched beyond season 2.
I hope you never reach this level of brokenheartedness. TV is meant to be entertaining instead of painful. Good luck.
Aww...I'm sorry to hear you've had your fair share of tv heartbreak. :\
But no worries...I'm really not heartbroken...just sad that they finally clarified it for me. It was a huge "Incase you didnt get the memo....its not happening, so knock it off!" :rotfl:
It's upsetting...but I'll get over it. As long as Chloe gets a happy ending. Which I strongly believe isnt Jimmy.
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He's her BFF. So I say it's not over, it will never be. I'm talking about Chlark friendship of course. It's always been that. :p
Thats true...I'm happy they will always be amazing friends. Just leave out the sexual tension (I know this is something not all have seen in the past) but I've personally seen it....but it wasnt there tonight. When they hugged and joked...I truly saw friends. Lets keep it that way, and I'm on board!! :)
Dor el
10-09-2008, 08:56 PM
Nope, happy ending is not Jimmy. Like he said, Chloe didn't write a Fever letter to him.
dimeo782002
10-09-2008, 08:56 PM
Im sorry everyone but my fears have been confirmed . after tonights episode my worst fear was confirmed. The fever letter was no more than a buffer for the mythodical relationship at hand to become aparent. In the barn scenec clark openinly said about chloe's feelings he never showed andy remorse or regret for not being iwth her. All i heard was ... Chkloe had some intenese feelings for me and i never saw it, what if my soul mate is right in front of me and i miss it.... lois responds well when the right women does come along you will see it.
Metaphor this explains that chloe is not for him because he chose to be blind. and thus lois being in front of him while saying this the writers are showing us metaphorically that lois is the one ... not chloe.
My chlark heart is broken but i have been saying this for weeks what was going to happen but instead i indulged in fantasies .
Do i believe chloe when she says she is over clark? yes to a point i do . i would not keep being single and stopping my life and my happiness for someone who is not going to speak up for me.
they have not shown that clark even regrets not seeing or giving chloe a chance. this was just a buffer episode for things to come . goodbye romantic chlark . im gonna go mourn now and decide if im gonna continue watching this show.
i gave up on clark after zod BUT after hearing the fever letter spoiler and reading that clark may REGRET some things is what did this to me and now i think the printed spoilers are also trying to feed carrots to people only to keep them watching. where is this regeret for chloe ? simple it was a ll bs to get our hopes up and smear it in our faces.
this episode should have been called kill clark romatically so big dumb female alien can push clark and lois together LOL !
imnot mad at clois ...its not there fault i did not get what i wanted . i liked the beginning with lois and the whole endorphine thing but when she caught themin the elevator was a little bit much !
well goodbye romantic chlark ...i will miss your inuendo's and clarks longing looks that was just bull . hello hagen daas ice cream !
im really sorry for the people that had there hopes up . now ps3 can use the fever letter for toilet paper because it did not show any regret from clark . im no longer reading spoilers because it is all a sham to bend to certain fan bases to get us to watch .... like next week chloe gets asked if she loves clark ... that is a big flag to chlark supporters they are hoping that we will tune in to see what she says . guess what ? were only gonna get shot in the heart again and there is nothing anyone can say to sway me or give me hope ..... its over
Oh one more thing clark does not deserve chloe's love because he was too dumb to give her a chance. He still had feelinmgs for lana when she was getting married and that didn't stop him from saying how he felt if he loved chloe he would step forward now ! and since he isn't im calling calrk a BDA for the first time ever !
Chloe is too strong minded for clark . and jimmy whats he gonna do go moon over another women everytime things don't go his way ? jimmy does not deserve her either period . chloe deserves someone better than this .i think a part of her will always love him i mean she just said so in season 7 you stupid PS3 !
ugh whatever ! it'sover and clark is dumb so i don't care who he ends up with. Tom welling is still hot and i still like to look at him .
I wopuld be totally okay with this if they would have showed some shread of clark having regret . Even a dam bread crumb , but nope we get lies ! he tells lois he never knew how chloe felt then he tells chloe i guess i always knew ! omg this was a buffer episode and it was for analogy of clana /clois period !
i will no longer watch live and im not saying it's cause chlark is not together , i could live with that ...it's the fact clark shows no remorse or regret , and they have hinted sexual tension all the way along even in zod when clark came back he was too dumb to say hey lets hook up ! no he asked her and let chloe push him away again but yet they had to show clarks face all jealous . im so tired of this @#$% ! Goodbye chlark and chloe your better off you don't need a man like that , he threw you in the trash , always kept you in his back pocket for in case . but jimmy is not for chloe " oh hell no ! he runs to other women all the time.... no wonder why he is not married in the mythos ! he is a little terd !
kris10
10-09-2008, 08:56 PM
Andigirl, you are the coolest Chlarker I know and one of the best posters on the forum. I would never wish heartbreak on you.
I'm sorry about your hurt :\
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what? ahhh now my feelings are really hurt....
just kidding
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What are you trying say?
Oh.. wait.. you're right..
But hey! What are you trying to say!
that your the devil in star wars clothing???? j/k
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hey guys theres still alot of the season left...i dont know its weird cus of the episodes coming up and the chloeiac....idk
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 09:05 PM
what? ahhh now my feelings are really hurt....
just kidding
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that your the devil in star wars clothing???? j/k
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hey guys theres still alot of the season left...i dont know its weird cus of the episodes coming up and the chloeiac....idk
No worries...you're a pretty freaking awesome Chlarker too Kristen!! ;)
kris10
10-09-2008, 09:18 PM
No worries...you're a pretty freaking awesome Chlarker too Kristen!! ;)
oh i know thanks andi but you are the best i was just picking on fallen is all. trying to get a smile...cus goodness knows we need it... idk like i said im a little off on this episode b/c it was like a complete 180 from the premier when chloe didnt even want to tell clark about the engagement....and the crap about not wanting the relationship to change its baloney....
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 09:22 PM
oh i know thanks andi but you are the best i was just picking on fallen is all. trying to get a smile...cus goodness knows we need it... idk like i said im a little off on this episode b/c it was like a complete 180 from the premier when chloe didnt even want to tell clark about the engagement....and the crap about not wanting the relationship to change its baloney....
It was a bit sudden...but I guess Chloe finally wanted to put the notion of Chlark to rest. That he had his chance a long time ago...and she doesnt feel that way anymore. I did believe her....but I also agree that they go back and forth so often...it gets confusing.
As long as they knock that crap off I'm good. no more jealous Chloe...or long glances....and hugs that last too long. None of that. I mean it PTB!! :mad:. Yea..my angry face doesnt work out too well! :p. I just needed closer...and I got it, so please....just let it be. No need to beat the dead horse.
kris10
10-09-2008, 09:30 PM
yea ITA no more back and forth crap...but my concern is the upcoming episodes there pretty chlark centric (Abyss, Committed) I mean next week description has chloe explaining herself about clark again.... I MEAN COME ON......that is what bothers me..if its dead i am ok with that but stop the BULLPOOP! yea thats my word for the day...
you_smell_terrific
10-09-2008, 09:56 PM
I came on here to make the exact same thread. My Chlark heart is broken as well :'(
I'm pissed about how suddenly noncholant she is about it. All the way up until season 6 Chloe has been making sad faces at any mention of Clana.
Examples:
Promise: When she yells at Clark to go after Lana, he speeds off and she looks heartbroken with teary eyes. You can't tell me that look was because she's so sad that Clark and Lana aren't going to be together. She was sad because she told the man she loved to go for another woman.
Phantom (season 6 finale): Clark tells Chloe that he told Lana his secret, and that her response was a kiss. Chloe gets a weird vein movement in her neck and visably looks unhappy and gives a really fake smile. Then they show a close up on her face with that same look from Promise.
I'm blanking on whether or not there were any of those heartbroken stares in season 7, but I'm sure there were.
OH! Not only that, in Plastique we have the Chloe shpeel about how she's not ready for their friendship to change. And when Clark says "We're more than just friends" she get's an expression like 'I wish that meant something else'.
Then all of this season Clark's been having sad faces anytime Chloe's engagement is mentioned. Even when Clark hugs her after saying her happiness is all that matters, his eyebrows flinch like he's about to cry or something (similar to when he and Chloe hugged over Lana's death and he almost broke down but didn't).
I don't feel any closure on their relationship. I just feel like we got jipped. They shouldn't have led us on in the first place if there was never even going to be the smallest of a real relationship. I'm a thoroughly pissed and heartbroken Chlarker right now -.- *goes off to pout*
Karafan1
10-09-2008, 10:08 PM
I think it is finally over but who knows, like I always say "oh those crazy writers" lol
kris10
10-09-2008, 10:18 PM
yea right just when you thought it was over the rake us over the coals again...please no just please let it go ps3 no more torture--isnt torture illegal?
OMG i broke 200 posts only took me 3 years
Karafan1
10-09-2008, 10:29 PM
:|
.... Are you people for real??
:rotfl:
Yankeefan
10-09-2008, 10:30 PM
Chlark never even began
AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Like I said...maybe not the best title choice. ;)
susangail
10-09-2008, 10:39 PM
Weddings have a way of bringing nostalgia out in people... happens to me every time I attend one. I bet the closure is truly complete by then.
dimeo782002
10-09-2008, 10:40 PM
Chlark never even began
that is a matter of opinion and chlarkis a relationship they are bff's :rotfl:
Bre723
10-09-2008, 10:40 PM
I don't think so guys. Just wait for episode 8 or 9 this season. Heart wrencher.
oh yes, episode 9, i'm pumped for that one!
LexFactor
10-10-2008, 03:17 AM
Chlark never even began
And will never happen either.
Fallen One
10-10-2008, 03:33 AM
I was suprised at the level of maturity in the writing. Chlark closing the deal on any possibly relationship was handled as well as it could be. Two mature people having a mature conversation and reaching a mature conclusion. No lingering looks, no inuendo. And when it was over you felt as if a weight had been lifted off of their shoulders. Their smiles were smiles of contentment, and for a lot of us fans a smile of relief.
I think the producers made themselves clear at Comic Con about bringing closure to things of the past and moving the story into the Superman timeline. The Fever letter is one of those things, as well as ending any possibility of future romantic Chlark. For a lot of us, and I say us because I was once a Chlarker (moreso out of my intense hatred of Clana than any amiration for the Chloe character) the time for Chlark ended long ago. Before season 4- thats when it should have happened.
If I had it my way Chlark would have been a romantic couple for all season 2 and half of season 3. They would have ended their romantic relationship after Clark discovers Lionel and Chloe's deal. All of season 4 Clark dates Alicia while he rebuilds his friendship with Chloe. All of season 5 he and Lana have their long awaited romantic relationship while he and Chloe solidify themselves as best friends. And from season 6 on he has the occasion fling (such as Raya) but stays single for the most part while he builds something with Lois.
That way, every ship would have had their day in the spotlight and a lot more people would have came away with some level of satisfaction. But Al/Miles in their --infinite-- wisdom decided to go all Clana, all season, every season (at least from Clark's end). And that has scorned a lot of folks.
Chloe didn't have that extra -something- to pry Clark from Lana. She never could do it, no matter how nice she was to Clark or no matter how many times she threw herself at him. I don't blame any of the characters, because as Chloe put it in "Heat".
"Pheromones Clark, some people have it. And some people don't"
And that seems to be the bottomline with Chlark, romantically. I'm glad the writers are moving past it because to tease it and never give a payoff would be the worse thing they could do.
They handled it well tonight.
Timester
10-10-2008, 03:38 AM
I hate to be the one to rain on the parade, but I told you so.
Remember the first thing I said on the spoilers forum, when we learned about the Fever Leter? That if I was a Chlarker, I wouldn't be happy with PS3. But, as always, shipping takes controls of objective discussion and people ignore what they don't like.
PS3 is writing a pre-Superman show, that's the hint that I hope everyone takes it now. Chlark had a shot in the past, but AlMiles killed it because of Almighty Clana. As always, blame AlMiles for the past 7 years, not PS3.
EDIT: Damn, Fallen One was faster then me. :p
wolverine316
10-10-2008, 04:04 AM
How can something be over when it never started in the first place??
dimeo782002
10-10-2008, 08:12 AM
And will never happen either.
umm let me just say that we know that ! we don't need more people coming to sarcastically rub it in our face. all we wanted to see was a little regret from clark and i think after being devoted to a show for seven years we derserved that atleast. everyone else gets what they want on the show but since we like the chloe and chlark pair i guess some you feel the need to come and pour salt in our wounds !
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If I had it my way Chlark would have been a romantic couple for all season 2 and half of season 3. They would have ended their romantic relationship after Clark discovers Lionel and Chloe's deal. All of season 4 Clark dates Alicia while he rebuilds his friendship with Chloe. All of season 5 he and Lana have their long awaited romantic relationship while he and Chloe solidify themselves as best friends. And from season 6 on he has the occasion fling (such as Raya) but stays single for the most part while he builds something with Lois.
^^^^ written by fallen one
hey they should have had you writing for the show then it all would have fit without being rushed .i just wanted to give you kudo's for your thoughts and the respect you give other fans . i know we don't always agree but you have been very fair .
AndiGirl
10-10-2008, 08:23 AM
I was suprised at the level of maturity in the writing. Chlark closing the deal on any possibly relationship was handled as well as it could be. Two mature people having a mature conversation and reaching a mature conclusion. No lingering looks, no inuendo. And when it was over you felt as if a weight had been lifted off of their shoulders. Their smiles were smiles of contentment, and for a lot of us fans a smile of relief.
I think the producers made themselves clear at Comic Con about bringing closure to things of the past and moving the story into the Superman timeline. The Fever letter is one of those things, as well as ending any possibility of future romantic Chlark. For a lot of us, and I say us because I was once a Chlarker (moreso out of my intense hatred of Clana than any amiration for the Chloe character) the time for Chlark ended long ago. Before season 4- thats when it should have happened.
If I had it my way Chlark would have been a romantic couple for all season 2 and half of season 3. They would have ended their romantic relationship after Clark discovers Lionel and Chloe's deal. All of season 4 Clark dates Alicia while he rebuilds his friendship with Chloe. All of season 5 he and Lana have their long awaited romantic relationship while he and Chloe solidify themselves as best friends. And from season 6 on he has the occasion fling (such as Raya) but stays single for the most part while he builds something with Lois.
That way, every ship would have had their day in the spotlight and a lot more people would have came away with some level of satisfaction. But Al/Miles in their --infinite-- wisdom decided to go all Clana, all season, every season (at least from Clark's end). And that has scorned a lot of folks.
Chloe didn't have that extra -something- to pry Clark from Lana. She never could do it, no matter how nice she was to Clark or no matter how many times she threw herself at him. I don't blame any of the characters, because as Chloe put it in "Heat".
"Pheromones Clark, some people have it. And some people don't"
And that seems to be the bottomline with Chlark, romantically. I'm glad the writers are moving past it because to tease it and never give a payoff would be the worse thing they could do.
They handled it well tonight.
Nicely said! :)
Chlark should have happend a long time ago...and the writers really dropped the ball with that one. I agree, it ended on a good note...and there were no lingering looks...and they didnt hug just a tad too long. If they keep that up, and everyones happy...then I'm happy. :)
unfocused
10-10-2008, 08:24 AM
As much as it breaks my heart....I officially admitt Chlark is over. :(
Now..I dont want to start a huge Chlark/Clois debate in here...so if you have that intention, please dont comment. I want to keep it civil...and to only talk about chlark. Thanks. :)
I think it's officially signed and sealed. I kind of wanted more of a talk...but I thought it was very cute all things considering. Chloe saying "you blew it buddy"...there were never truer words uttered. The time came and passed. But its nice to see how much they really do mean to eachother. He will always be her "bff."
I cant lie though...I am incredibly broken hearted. It's sad to want something for so long and to have a clear "ITS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN" sign finally thrown in your face...it's a jagged little pill to swallow! :\
Who knows, maybe I'm the only chlarker who felt that way....so go ahead and discuss. But to me...they finally addressed it....and the time has passed. But I still dont think Jimmy is the "one" for her either. So..who knows.
Chloe never really seemed right for Clark. She was putty in his hands during high school. I would have liked to have seen an intimate relationship between the two, but nothing that would have lasted for too long, it would have been silly. Don't get me wrong, I am a Chloe fan, and I really love Allison Mack, but Clark isn't right for her, and she isn't right for Clark. They both deserve better that what each can be for the other.
AndiGirl
10-10-2008, 08:25 AM
How can something be over when it never started in the first place??
For the 500th time...I admitt maybe my title should have been.."Chlark...never going to happen?" But you all get the point...
BTW, keeping it civil in here people....there are some chlarkers out there who are just upset and this was meant as a way for them to talk about the episode. Not really a "haha...sucks for you!" Type thing. ok? ;)
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Chloe never really seemed right for Clark. She was putty in his hands during high school. I would have liked to have seen an intimate relationship between the two, but nothing that would have lasted for too long, it would have been silly. Don't get me wrong, I am a Chloe fan, and I really love Allison Mack, but Clark isn't right for her, and she isn't right for Clark. They both deserve better that what each can be for the other.
Thats true...but I do believe Chloe had a very deep love for Clark, that would have worked....at the right time. And now isnt it. So....like Chloe said "you blew it bud."
It was nice to feel they both were ok with their choice.
I do think Chloe and Clark deserve great people. Clark will have Lois...but I'm sorry I refuse to believe Jimmy is that "something bettter" for Chloe...thats taking two giant steps back if you ask me. :\
costas22
10-10-2008, 08:49 AM
It has been over since Zod when they never followed up on the Vessel kiss.It was a real shame too because it was a very powerful scene.It made Vessel an even better episode.Since then the producers have been trying to lure Chlarkers by over the top spoilers(Chlark in Labyrinth and Chloe adressing her feelings for Clark in Trespass).
svtwamedfan05
10-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Actually I'm happy for Chloe. She actually seems really happy with the decisions she has made with her own life. Its no doubt that Chloe and Clark will always be friends but to finally have closure actually helps both of them be even better friends, IMO
ElVibo
10-10-2008, 01:32 PM
There can't be any Chlark if Clark isn't reciprocating.
chlo-el
10-10-2008, 02:07 PM
I don't know. It felt a bit forced when Chloe kept on Jimmy perfect and saying how much she moved on. I don't think Chlark is over. Not completely.
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For the 500th time...I admitt maybe my title should have been.."Chlark...never going to happen?" But you all get the point...
BTW, keeping it civil in here people....there are some chlarkers out there who are just upset and this was meant as a way for them to talk about the episode. Not really a "haha...sucks for you!" Type thing. ok? ;)
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Thats true...but I do believe Chloe had a very deep love for Clark, that would have worked....at the right time. And now isnt it. So....like Chloe said "you blew it bud."
It was nice to feel they both were ok with their choice.
I do think Chloe and Clark deserve great people. Clark will have Lois...but I'm sorry I refuse to believe Jimmy is that "something bettter" for Chloe...thats taking two giant steps back if you ask me. :\
I agree w/ you. This ep still showed me that Chloe wasn't truely in love Jimmy. IT showed that she has gone through motions of moving on from Clark sure, but for a girl who realized her fiance cheated on her. You'd think she'd be a little more upset.
And the way she called Jimmy "Perfect". It just screams Clana to me. To me it feels like Chloe is in love of the idea of Jimmy and the idea of marrying somone and living happily ever after. But she didn't even know what kind of music he liked before this. That stoke me as a bit odd.
susangail
10-10-2008, 02:20 PM
I believe that the Chlark question has been answered, but I don't believe that Chloe will live happily ever after with Jimmy, either. I'm no Chlarker, but Chimmy never seemed right.
geminis
10-10-2008, 02:32 PM
For all those who are hurt by any aspect of the Fever letter, you have my sympathy. Pain is difficult, but it also teaches us.
This episode was about putting to rest several questions: Chloe's feelings for Clark, Clark's feelings for Chloe, and they even added Shelby on the list. PS3 obviously care about details. There is never going to be a perfect solution; someone is generally always hurt. I'm just glad that Clark and Chloe were the adults they now are and addressed the situation face to face, unlike another famous Clark pairing. That'll be later.
This episode also showed how Chimmy is destined to fail. Their relationship is like Clana lite; full of secrets, doubts, and angst. Chloe hides stuff from Jimmy, Jimmy overreacts, and looks for support elsewhere. And both Clark and Chloe still insist that Lana and Jimmy are perfect, when they're not. Or at least, not for each other.
Sorry if I rambled. I can gladly say that Chlark is over. With no reservations.
TWNik
10-10-2008, 02:58 PM
Chlark over?
Absolutely Not. I fully expect Smallville's best duo to continue.
Chloe's feelings for Clark, Clark's feelings for Chloe, and they even added Shelby on the list. PS3 obviously care about details.
I think PS3 obviously do not, otherwise they would know Lana had the letter. Not to mention Chloe is infected & clearly being influenced by Brainiac. She is NOT herself, nor do I think Clark's feelings are clear, he has not had time to even digest the full impact of the letter.
OneShotClois
10-10-2008, 03:07 PM
For all those who are hurt by any aspect of the Fever letter, you have my sympathy. Pain is difficult, but it also teaches us.
This episode was about putting to rest several questions: Chloe's feelings for Clark, Clark's feelings for Chloe, and they even added Shelby on the list. PS3 obviously care about details. There is never going to be a perfect solution; someone is generally always hurt. I'm just glad that Clark and Chloe were the adults they now are and addressed the situation face to face, unlike another famous Clark pairing. That'll be later.
This episode also showed how Chimmy is destined to fail. Their relationship is like Clana lite; full of secrets, doubts, and angst. Chloe hides stuff from Jimmy, Jimmy overreacts, and looks for support elsewhere. And both Clark and Chloe still insist that Lana and Jimmy are perfect, when they're not. Or at least, not for each other.
Sorry if I rambled. I can gladly say that Chlark is over. With no reservations.
ITA:D
TWNik
10-10-2008, 03:15 PM
Chloe is infected by Brainiac, she is clearly being influenced & NOT herself. How can you legitimately claim yes, with "no reservations"?
That is a BIG aspect of what went down, which is FACT & impacts/undermines the entire premise of those scenes.
disciples of zod
10-10-2008, 03:20 PM
to be honest, i'm kinda glad the whole Chlark thing is over.
now chloe can focus on jimmy :) and clark can get lois! everyone wins.
sorry, just my thoughts. ~K
Vindellavon
10-10-2008, 03:46 PM
Crank up that radio Chlarkers, here's the video every Chlarker in the history of Chlarkers should be watching right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMS5mBuno8
And just read the info ladies and gentlemen. The info says it all.
It's finally over, not that ever really started to begin with, all that there ever was, was the carrot being dangled in front of our noses, and now that's all over and done with! Chloe has finally closed the book on her unrequited love for Clark, professing her love for Jimmy and calling him the perfect person for her! Now, whether that's true, and I highly doubt it, is another debate and another forum, but yeah any hope of Chlark ever coming to life, even for a short while, is now gone for good!
ClarkyBoy14
10-10-2008, 03:49 PM
IMO, Chlark has been over for a very long time but I think that TPTB clarified it for us in the best way possible. Chloe is clearly happy with Jimmy and Clark is clearly happy for both of them. Obviously this means nothing to a Chlark fan who wants to see them together, but I think that TPTB could've handled this situation a lot worse knowing their writing history.
ITA.
chlo-el
10-10-2008, 03:53 PM
For all those who are hurt by any aspect of the Fever letter, you have my sympathy. Pain is difficult, but it also teaches us.
This episode was about putting to rest several questions: Chloe's feelings for Clark, Clark's feelings for Chloe, and they even added Shelby on the list. PS3 obviously care about details. There is never going to be a perfect solution; someone is generally always hurt. I'm just glad that Clark and Chloe were the adults they now are and addressed the situation face to face, unlike another famous Clark pairing. That'll be later.
This episode also showed how Chimmy is destined to fail. Their relationship is like Clana lite; full of secrets, doubts, and angst. Chloe hides stuff from Jimmy, Jimmy overreacts, and looks for support elsewhere. And both Clark and Chloe still insist that Lana and Jimmy are perfect, when they're not. Or at least, not for each other.
Sorry if I rambled. I can gladly say that Chlark is over. With no reservations.
Great rambling. I sooo agree w/ you about the Chimmy being destined to fail part. It defiantly showed Chloe treating Jimmy how Clark treated Lana. And how they both saw that there significant other could do no wrong but at the same time not really trsuting them.
I actaully thought Chloe acted mature to the letter. But to me it seemed like both Chloe and Clark weren't being completely honest like there was more to say but for the sake of Chloe's supposed happiness that thy wouldn't say it.
I think this showed that Clark had seen that he had missed his opputunity with Chloe but there was nothing he could do about it now.
go_clo
10-10-2008, 03:54 PM
I think PS3 obviously do not, otherwise they would know Lana had the letter. Not to mention Chloe is infected & clearly being influenced by Brainiac. She is NOT herself, nor do I think Clark's feelings are clear, he has not had time to even digest the full impact of the letter.
Ya thats why I'm having a hard time excepting it, Chloe is infected by Brainiac and is clearly not herself and also, Clark didn't even have a chance to let the letter sink in. He read it in front of Chloe and had to react to it in front of her.
So if it wasn't for those factors, I'd admit that it's over and just appreciate their friendship for what it is (which I do already) but the Brainiac infection is really making this hard to believe! :\
chlo-el
10-10-2008, 03:55 PM
to be honest, i'm kinda glad the whole Chlark thing is over.
now chloe can focus on jimmy :) and clark can get lois! everyone wins.
sorry, just my thoughts. ~K
Excapt all of the people who can't stand Chimmy and see that they are acting like Clana.
geminis
10-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Chloe is infected by Brainiac, she is clearly being influenced & NOT herself. How can you legitimately claim yes, with "no reservations"?
That is a BIG aspect of what went down, which is FACT & impacts/undermines the entire premise of those scenes.
You do have a point. But Chloe isn't fully taken over yet; she's still herself albeit with some differences. Why can I say no reservations? Because Clark and Chloe both said so.
I would also concede that you have a point with Clark being put on the spot and there may still be underlying tension/feelings between them. But they're going to be adults and deal with their relationship in an adult manner. Unfortunately, he's still wrapping up Clana. I would bet that you still haven't seen the end of the Chlark, especially with Bride coming up. And just think, you'll get to see Clark all dressed up and Chloe in a wedding dress. I think I might just have to be jealous. :)
Fallen One
10-10-2008, 04:46 PM
Oh crap! Kristen! How can I leave you out of it. You are coolest of the cool. Please don't force throw a can goods at me! I'm allergic to string beans.
If I had it my way Chlark would have been a romantic couple for all season 2 and half of season 3. They would have ended their romantic relationship after Clark discovers Lionel and Chloe's deal. All of season 4 Clark dates Alicia while he rebuilds his friendship with Chloe. All of season 5 he and Lana have their long awaited romantic relationship while he and Chloe solidify themselves as best friends. And from season 6 on he has the occasion fling (such as Raya) but stays single for the most part while he builds something with Lois.
^^^^ written by fallen one
hey they should have had you writing for the show then it all would have fit without being rushed .i just wanted to give you kudo's for your thoughts and the respect you give other fans . i know we don't always agree but you have been very fair .
Well I'm all for anything that would have kept the Clana merry-go-around from happening. I also would have kept Whitney on the show for one more season just to keep Lana with someone else in season 2.
The Spring formal should have been the begginning of Chlark and it should have lasted until the Lionel deal. Think of all the good stuff we could have gotten. They were so cute at the Spring formal and I was so looking forward to that continuing, even after Clark rushes to save Lana from the Tornado. TPTB should kept it going and by the end of it in mid season 3 we could have came away satisfied that at least it was explored to its fullest. No regrets, no unrequinted feelings, no pining. Plus there would have been no need for the Fever Letter.
Chloe then sees the error of her ways on the Lionel deal, works with Lex to send him to prison, goes missing at the end of season 3. In season 4 Lois and Clark find her, and from point forward she and Clark could have begun to become the best of friends since Pete was gone and Clex was begginning to fizzle out. Calicia does their thing and Jason and Lana do their thing. I probrably wouldn't have minded if Chloe got with Lex for a little bit in early season 4 (before she sees that he is changing for the worse). After all, Lex was the one helping stay alive prior to Clark and Lois finding her.
That way, by the time season 6 roles around, Clana is over, Clexana's getting serious, and Lollie starts up. But Chloe.. having had a serious relationship with Clark and maybe a little fling with Lex in season 4, would have decided that she wants something with someone a little less complicated. Jimmy would be a change from the norm, and while she intended it to only be friends, he grows on her and towards the end of season 6 they start up a relationship. It would have made her decision to start something up with Jimmy a lot more believable and it wouldn't make seem so obvious that she was just settling for him. Most of all.. Jimmy would not have been insecure about Clark and it would have made Chimmy a more mature relationship. Season 7 would have been the time to get the ball really rolling on Chimmy, without the Kara nonsense to break them up.
But alas, Clana Clana Clana for 7 seasons and they missed the boat BIG TIME with Chlark. When Lois came on the show I no longer saw any good that could have came from a Chlark relationship. It would have looked bad if Clark went from cousin to cousin. Thus I and I think a lot of the audience rightfully realized that more bad than good would come from it and decided to root for the iconic couple to make their way toward each other.
Again, so much could have been done before season 4, and there could have been so many good memories.. but the blame should be squarely on the shoulders of TPTB. They missed that train, and the teasing and the longing looks should have stopped LONG ago.
Atomic girl
10-10-2008, 04:49 PM
I'm thinking if Chloe was with Clark, then the deal with Lionel wouldn't have happened. She would never have been tempted to do it, not for just a column.
Estro-gen X
10-10-2008, 05:00 PM
Chloe is infected by Brainiac, she is clearly being influenced & NOT herself. How can you legitimately claim yes, with "no reservations"?
That is a BIG aspect of what went down, which is FACT & impacts/undermines the entire premise of those scenes.
you mean it was brainiac who was saying those words? But my Clarkiac OTP is now ruined!!!!
kris10
10-10-2008, 05:02 PM
thanks fallen that was just a joke to break the depression did you see i said you were the devil in star wars clothes??? cus of your 666 post or something like that! all i can say was it was just weird the way it was done..i dont mind there being closure and the story that we chlarkers should have known better but that still doesnt make it right...im still not sold that brainaic isnt imacting the way chloe reacts etc....i think when she starts dumping memories in abyss theres a reason and thats brainiac wants to break the bond that she has with clark(as do the producers but thats another discussion) they just summed up this intense letter with about 5 minutes of tv and to alot of chlark fans out there that was 7 years gone....and a lot people can argue there wasnt anything there blah well we have 7 years of clips to prove it just go on youtube and see all of them....they dangled that carrot and people bought into it...then they just shot alot of people in the heart....i dont what to think..i still want to see how the brainiac thing goes i still have hope but a little part of me died last night.....i just ask that clois/clana fans put yourselves in our position you got ur ship..we just got crapped on for 7 plus years and i want to add that theres nothing wrong liking a show b/c of a ship whatever gets you going but we know how the story ends we just wanted a part of the middle. peace
AndiGirl
10-10-2008, 07:41 PM
Ok guys...dont kill me....but I'm not sure how I feel anymore. I was thinking today....we never really heard from Clark did we?? Ok..I fully admitt, Chlark isnt going to happen. But I think the letter could have been handled a lot better. For Clark to act like he never had feelings for Chloe is bull...we clearly saw he did at one point. Then....once again, the poor boy is about to talk...and Chloe interrupts him. For once I would like to jump in there and say "Chloe shut the hell up and let the boy speak!" She has this weird complex where she shuts things down so she wont get hurt.
Now dont misinterrprut what I'm saying...Chlark is officially over to me, but I dont think after 7 years of waiting...its too much to ask that we truly hear how clark feels on the matter..
- Did he ever have strong feelings for her?
- Was he honestly blind to how she felt...or did he want her as his "back pocket" girl?
- Was he upset when he came back from the phantom zone and saw Chimmy together?
- Did he infact want to "hook up?"
I dont know, I know it seems pointless to dredge all of that up...but it's always been about how chloe feels for clark and for once I want to hear the other side. For Clark to come clean...and then it will truly be done to me. I think they owe us that much. :\
Kal el of krypton
10-10-2008, 07:45 PM
jimmy did say, a person can never get over their first love or something like that lol. But i am glad that happened to all the people thinking chloe and clark should be together and shes the real lois blah blah blah lol. :)
LovelyLoisLane
10-10-2008, 07:53 PM
and they ended it in the coldest way .... congratulations PS3!! btw I would change you for Al/Miles anytime .... because you guys suck!
No way jose! I'd rather swallow broken glass then to have the AlMiles style of doing things back.
I think maybe the apathetic nature of the scene could've been done better, but it would have 1000 times worse if it happened back in the old days.
AndiGirl
10-10-2008, 07:55 PM
No way jose! I'd rather swallow broken glass then to have the AlMiles style of doing things back.
I think maybe the apathetic nature of the scene could've been done better, but it would have 1000 times worse if it happened back in the old days.
I agree...I think if it was Almiles it would have just never been resolved!! :lol: So this was better then nothing...thats for sure!
clarkbunny
10-10-2008, 08:03 PM
well here's my two cents.
It looked to me that Clark was slightly upset after reading the letter about Chloe's feelings for him then Chloe saying that was a long time ago I don't feel that way any more. Definitely looked a tad upset to me there but then he covered it up with happiness for his friend.
Wherever Chloe is involved Clark always tries to do right by her as he cares too much about their friendship. He will put aside his feelings for her happiness 'cos he cares about her happiness. He didn't fight her splitting with him in season 3 'cos that's what she said she wanted. He didn't dwell on his hurt feelings in this episode because Chloe said she was happy with Jimmy.
When Clark spoke to Lois about not recognising Ms Right when she is right in front of him, I think he was referring to Chloe. He had his chance with his soul mate and he blew it and he is regretting it.
There may be life left in the Chlark engine yet :p
Tommy'sGirl
10-10-2008, 09:18 PM
My turn! Ok, I re-watched Instinct just to get a handle on myself and Chlark. I was really disappointed with how the letter discovery played out. I was glad that she was able to talk openly with him about her past feelings, but I think she layed the "I'm over you now" stuff on pretty thick. I enjoyed the "you blew it bud" comment and that he is her BFF.
Now the bad part: She said, "I will never share what we have with anyone else." He looked a little forelorn while she explained that she was in love with Jimmy now and not him. He hinted just a little regret about not realizing Chloe's feelings for him while talking to Lois.
What does this mean to me? I think it is just another one of those transparent dangling carrots. I know in my brain that Chlark is never going to romantically flourish on the show, but my heart aches for them to get the chance. The writers love to toss false hope of romantic Chlark around by way of spoilers and subtle hints in the way they look at each other and things they say that can be interpreted as supressed feelings. Once the knife is firmly in place beween the ribs, they twist it vigorously by prematurely shoving Clois down our throats.
I know, as does everyone, that Clois gets the happy ending; however, Clois does not happen until AFTER Clark is Supes, flying around in tights. My sentiment is that as long as they aren't giving us the tights, they shouldn't be giving us the Clois. It just feels rushed to me.
I feel like Chlarkers deserve better closure than Chloe handing Clark the Fever letter and going, "yeah, I wrote this back when we were teenagers and I was madly in love with you, but I'm not anymore, so don't sweat it." It was total crap.
TWNik
10-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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It wasn't legitimate or credible, not with her Brainiac infection.
tariksam
10-10-2008, 10:20 PM
So now Brianiac controls Chloe feelings? I can totally see you blame Brianiac but its hard to imagine he being a machine control the feelings
So Brianiac is in love with Jimmy and wants to marry Jimmy...cause...well I don't know give me one logic reason
geminis
10-10-2008, 10:43 PM
I also really really doubt that Brainiac cares one iota about Chloe's feelings or Jimmy. He's just out to survive and if driving Chloe and Clark apart via Chimmy would help him do that, well then, why not?
amberdawn
10-10-2008, 10:51 PM
I agree. Brainiac does not give a crap about Chloe's personal life or what she does with it. I think so far, her actions involving men are her own.
kiariclois
10-11-2008, 01:32 AM
I'm afraid Clois partnership (with hidden feelings) has already happened. :p See... Clark working at the DP does not happen until AFTER Clark is Supes, flying around in tights but in SV, I don't think he's already becoming one, and yet he's already working there. So I think it's okay for Clois too happen early too. :p
and I think we already witnessed the Chlark Closure :p I have the feeling there will be more "closure"... apparently, one closure isn't enough :rotfl:
Chlois Supporter
10-11-2008, 04:46 AM
Here's my take on all this. The Fever letter part has played out. The ramifications of it yet are still going to linger on, at least till the next episode, if not till the wedding EP.
Consider the next episode.
Clark and Lois, Jimmy and Chloe are going to be hooked up to Kryptonite lie detector tests, and forced to admit how they feel. IMO This is whats going to happen. As far as Clark and Lois is concerned, Lois is going to admit that she has feelings for Clark, and Clark in turn is going to admit he has feelings for Chloe. At the end of said episode the rumored "Chlark Support" by Lois is her telling Clark that he needs to tell Chloe how he really feels about her before its too late, and Clark is going to tell Lois that he's not going to ever tell Chloe, because her happiness is more important to him than his own, and that he feels she's happy with Jimmy.
kris10
10-11-2008, 10:15 AM
i agree john-eric this is still lingering and i have kept saying that jimmy and chloe are AGAIN going to discuss the Chlark(see 1st sentence of committed descrip) now the pics are out and you can see the obvious(trying not to give spoilers dont know how to black em out-dont want to violate rules)the 1st part is in episode so it doenst count as a spoiler :)
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brainiac's goal is to survive 1st and to destroy clark second...so wouldnt it make sense to create a rift btw the friends so that he can make it easier to take over chloe fully and then his job with clark will be a lot easier as well...he is a computer which means work smarter not harder.....:)
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it would explain why clark has to do certain things with memory.....
rogueslayer1985
10-11-2008, 11:33 AM
I don't think so guys. Just wait for episode 8 or 9 this season. Heart wrencher.
i know i hope in commited they show that chloe still loves clark. she does she just doesnt know it. Its in her and is part of who she is, i swear this is more annoying then them making her quit the DP!!! chlark even in brief moments will keep the viewers interested. I love their love its understated but is in every scene they have together.
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Here's my take on all this. The Fever letter part has played out. The ramifications of it yet are still going to linger on, at least till the next episode, if not till the wedding EP.
Consider the next episode.
Clark and Lois, Jimmy and Chloe are going to be hooked up to Kryptonite lie detector tests, and forced to admit how they feel. IMO This is whats going to happen. As far as Clark and Lois is concerned, Lois is going to admit that she has feelings for Clark, and Clark in turn is going to admit he has feelings for Chloe. At the end of said episode the rumored "Chlark Support" by Lois is her telling Clark that he needs to tell Chloe how he really feels about her before its too late, and Clark is going to tell Lois that he's not going to ever tell Chloe, because her happiness is more important to him than his own, and that he feels she's happy with Jimmy.
ooooohhh i hope so! whats your source???????? where please tell me!!!
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It wasn't legitimate or credible, not with her Brainiac infection.
i agree one million percent! what crap.
Vindellavon
10-11-2008, 11:40 AM
Here's my take on all this. The Fever letter part has played out. The ramifications of it yet are still going to linger on, at least till the next episode, if not till the wedding EP.
Consider the next episode.
Clark and Lois, Jimmy and Chloe are going to be hooked up to Kryptonite lie detector tests, and forced to admit how they feel. IMO This is whats going to happen. As far as Clark and Lois is concerned, Lois is going to admit that she has feelings for Clark, and Clark in turn is going to admit he has feelings for Chloe. At the end of said episode the rumored "Chlark Support" by Lois is her telling Clark that he needs to tell Chloe how he really feels about her before its too late, and Clark is going to tell Lois that he's not going to ever tell Chloe, because her happiness is more important to him than his own, and that he feels she's happy with Jimmy.
Tell me this isn't just a speculation. :eek:
Jade4813
10-11-2008, 11:46 AM
Tell me this isn't just a speculation. :eek:
It's speculation, but I think it is plausible speculation and I'm no Chlarker. We haven't heard Clark's feelings for Chloe yet, not for certain. So I am curious to know if he gets the question and what he says if he does.
Vindellavon
10-11-2008, 11:58 AM
It's speculation, but I think it is plausible speculation and I'm no Chlarker. We haven't heard Clark's feelings for Chloe yet, not for certain. So I am curious to know if he gets the question and what he says if he does.
Well, it's a pretty nice spec (for a Chlarker of course). Hopefully the ep makes senses even if it doesn't go theway we want it to. :cool:
SpiritedDiva
10-11-2008, 12:35 PM
So now Brianiac controls Chloe feelings? I can totally see you blame Brianiac but its hard to imagine he being a machine control the feelings
So Brianiac is in love with Jimmy and wants to marry Jimmy...cause...well I don't know give me one logic reason
I agree with Kris. There is in a fact, a perfectly logical explananation.
What better way to take over Chloe than to alienate her from Clark,
there by causing him to distance himself from her. I also have heard a theory
that Braniac is for Chloom so he can continue his quest to create Krypton on earth.
So looking from a storyline perspective, it makes sense. Then again, since when has
Smallville made sense.:lol:
AndiGirl
10-11-2008, 12:37 PM
It's speculation, but I think it is plausible speculation and I'm no Chlarker. We haven't heard Clark's feelings for Chloe yet, not for certain. So I am curious to know if he gets the question and what he says if he does.
Thats honestly all I want to hear...and then I can move on. I just need clark to admitt he did or does have feelings for Chloe....so I dont have to feel my entire ship was based off of me "seeing things" that werent there. :lol:
Jade4813
10-11-2008, 12:43 PM
Thats honestly all I want to hear...and then I can move on. I just need clark to admitt he did or does have feelings for Chloe....so I dont have to feel my entire ship was based off of me "seeing things" that werent there. :lol:
Andi, sweetie, whatever happens, I don't think you should ever feel like you were seeing things that weren't there. *hugs*
AndiGirl
10-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Andi, sweetie, whatever happens, I don't think you should ever feel like you were seeing things that weren't there. *hugs*
Thanks Jade :)
It's a little tough when people say they never saw anything between chlark...so I wonder "am I just crazy...and made up these things in my head?!" :\
But you are right, I know there was something there once..and thats all that matters. But if Clark could just tell us a tad bit of what he thinks.....or thought....:lol:
smallvillefreak24
10-11-2008, 01:24 PM
I definitely felt some chlark closure this episode chloe having clark read the letter was the last straw - im glad there was closure and I am sad to have it end but i think it was the right step
Jade4813
10-11-2008, 01:40 PM
Thanks Jade :)
It's a little tough when people say they never saw anything between chlark...so I wonder "am I just crazy...and made up these things in my head?!" :\
But you are right, I know there was something there once..and thats all that matters. But if Clark could just tell us a tad bit of what he thinks.....or thought....:lol:
Well, that's true. But I think EVERY ship has that to contend with. Some people will see it, and some people simply won't. You can't let it interfere with whether YOU see it and/or love it! :)
AndiGirl
10-11-2008, 01:46 PM
Well, that's true. But I think EVERY ship has that to contend with. Some people will see it, and some people simply won't. You can't let it interfere with whether YOU see it and/or love it! :)
I think thats my problem..I always try to see where others are coming from...and I've honestly always seen the tension between Lois and clark...as well as Clark/Lana. I couldnt deny it. Just makes me sad people cant try to look at situations without their "shipper goggles" on.
Oh well, makes me happy there are some people on the boards (like miss Jade of course) who can be subjective. :)
kal-el_Girl
10-11-2008, 03:52 PM
I didn't believe a word chloe said about she been over clark, I just didn't see that confidence of a person saying "I don't love you anymore" The only thing that I saw was chloe trying to convince herself that she's in love with someone else, jimmy is there just for her to be "busy" and try to forget clark.
Who on earth would forget a man like clark? and settle for jimmy? That is too funny :rotfl:
SteveS
10-11-2008, 04:36 PM
I think one has to face facts that this is how the newest PTB decided to end any speculation of a Chloe and ClarkMan romance. Since I was never primarily a believer in Chloe as Lois, I am not overly surprised as that was always a low odds proposition. On the other hand, even with the efforts of the newest PTB to buff up the acceptability quotient of Smallville's version of lois, Chloe is still the superior girl for ClarkMan and lois, sadly, is still 3rd rate as a person and a personality.
Too bad that 'they' didn't have the courage to kill of lois and in turn get a Lois out of Chloe, that would have shown creativity.
kris10
10-11-2008, 05:36 PM
I agree with Kris. There is in a fact, a perfectly logical explananation.
What better way to take over Chloe than to alienate her from Clark,
there by causing him to distance himself from her. I also have heard a theory
that Braniac is for Chloom so he can continue his quest to create Krypton on earth.
So looking from a storyline perspective, it makes sense. Then again, since when has
Smallville made sense.:lol:
awesome my thoughts exactly when we were 1st told about Doomy he's "drawn" to chloe well in the comics Doomy is Drawn to all things Kryptonian.and brainiac trys repeatedly to use doomy and bring him back so its not surprising....or not a valid point to make that brainiac could be in a sense controlling like i said he was weakened and hes gonna get stronger and what better way to get full control of chloe then to seperate clark and chloe and create friction...upcoming episode for example, Prey=the episode which chloe refuses to help clark- reason 1-confidentiality now at 1st i understood why chloe wouldnt help with the list but then i read some posts-legalilty has never stopped chloe...unless maybe deep down some "part" of her knows cus remember last season chloe would practically do anything for him so i think that people need to be thinking about that...and AM did say shes going darker so for us to assume that shes all Chloe i think its a mistake and the episode Legion confirms that Clark made a mistake to not do anything in regards to helping chloe before Abyss cus i think by that time its too late-any thoughts?
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CHLOE: ohhh Jimmy you're soooo boring-uhhh i mean perfect for me..
wolverine316
10-12-2008, 08:44 AM
Although I am not a big fan of Chlark on a romantic level to hear Chloe say she got over her feelings for CK because she found the perfect person in Jimmy is laughable.
oldblackmagick
10-12-2008, 10:59 AM
Well in the next episode trailer it appeared that chloe was being asked if she loved anyone else besides jimmy...i think that this answer will play into the season and may lead to some "forgetting" but hey...just IMO
kris10
10-12-2008, 11:14 AM
i know i cringed when i heard jimmy say that idk and it has nothing to do with being a chlarker at all...i can hear her saying to someone and REALLY being happy with them but i cant buy that statement at all considering who was right in front of her....come on..
man i have trouble typing correctly on this sight....:)its the new laptop im not used to it..
RedKRules
10-12-2008, 11:17 AM
Although I am not a big fan of Chlark on a romantic level to hear Chloe say she got over her feelings for CK because she found the perfect person in Jimmy is laughable.
The whole Fever letter context on this episode was a total J.O.K.E
Lara Lane
10-12-2008, 08:44 PM
Seriously....where the heck is George hiding his cute little butt!!!
Oh I just had a vision. In the last Smallville episode, in her last scene, Chloe will be all sad bcz Jimmy's gone or something, she's at the coffee shop and she turns around and spills her coffee on some guy and looks up and goes "Oh sorry!" And the guy gives her this gorgeous smile and says "No problem, hey, my name is George." :p
*goes back to lurkdom*
AndiGirl
10-12-2008, 09:52 PM
Oh I just had a vision. In the last Smallville episode, in her last scene, Chloe will be all sad bcz Jimmy's gone or something, she's at the coffee shop and she turns around and spills her coffee on some guy and looks up and goes "Oh sorry!" And the guy gives her this gorgeous smile and says "No problem, hey, my name is George." :p
*goes back to lurkdom*
Oh...that would be fantastic! Then clarks just smiling in the backgroud. Too perfect!! :D
Kalista
10-12-2008, 09:55 PM
I didn't believe a word chloe said about she been over clark, I just didn't see that confidence of a person saying "I don't love you anymore" The only thing that I saw was chloe trying to convince herself that she's in love with someone else, jimmy is there just for her to be "busy" and try to forget clark.
Who on earth would forget a man like clark? and settle for jimmy? That is too funny :rotfl:
That's because that was Chloiac in that scene.
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Although I am not a big fan of Chlark on a romantic level to hear Chloe say she got over her feelings for CK because she found the perfect person in Jimmy is laughable.
And that's why I don't think that the writers are trying to convince the audience that Chimmy are meant to be.
Clana4Life
10-12-2008, 10:01 PM
I wish they had made Chloe the real Lois. We all thought they had when she shed that tear and healed Lois. That would have been great. Chloe would have been a great Lois. She seems like the kind of girl Clark would go for. I really can't see Clark falling for this Lois unless they mellow her out a bit. Realistically if the writers were not bound by mythos/cannon, I think Clark would have gone for Chloe with Lana gone.
Kevin24
10-12-2008, 10:28 PM
I believe Chloe and Clark had their chance to be together during Season 6. I'll be honest I was aboard the Clark and Lana train when the show started airing but when Clark realized he actually had feelings for Chloe during the end of Season 1 I was happy.
They were cute together and really got along well but I rooted for Clark and Lana to be together but I wouldn't have been mad if he ended up with Chloe.
Fast forward to Season 8 and I honestly feel that Chloe and Clark deserved to be together for at least one full season. I know they aren't destined to be together but I always thought it would have been nice to see them as a couple since they have hinted at it for so long.
I am all for Clark and Lois being together now but I do feel like we missed a chance to have a Chloe and Clark relationship on Smallville.
kris10
10-12-2008, 11:23 PM
yea i mean we all know who he ends up with why couldnt they have just let have a go of it right? it certainly would have made a lot of people happy and then he can move to his future..tptb could have had Clark have a "normal" relationship with someone before he moves on to lois....that way he doesnt seem dysfunctional...
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I wish they had made Chloe the real Lois. We all thought they had when she shed that tear and healed Lois. That would have been great. Chloe would have been a great Lois. She seems like the kind of girl Clark would go for. I really can't see Clark falling for this Lois unless they mellow her out a bit. Realistically if the writers were not bound by mythos/cannon, I think Clark would have gone for Chloe with Lana gone.
i hear ya...
smallvillerocks45
10-13-2008, 02:50 AM
In some ways, I think Chloe was lying through her teeth when she said that she doesn't feel that way about Clark anymore. I mean, did you see her face in "Plastique" when Clark said he wanted her to be happy? She was disappointed.
If given the chance, I believe Chloe would choose Clark. The thing is, she knows Clark will never see her as anything more than a friend (which we also saw in the same "Plastique" scene)- she'll never have that chance - and since she can't sit around waiting for him to suddenly change his mind, she is mature enough to know that she needs to move on, and absolutely has. Good for her.
I still don't think she loves Jimmy like she loves (or loved) Clark, but if she's happy, then that's all that matters... for now. (I can't wait to see next week's episode!)
dimeo782002
10-13-2008, 07:27 AM
yea i mean we all know who he ends up with why couldnt they have just let have a go of it right? it certainly would have made a lot of people happy and then he can move to his future..tptb could have had Clark have a "normal" relationship with someone before he moves on to lois....that way he doesnt seem dysfunctional...
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i hear ya...
I third that. Chloe is the type of girl that he would be with if lana did not work out. but thanks tomythos we are getting to told why two people should be together and not showed. atleast with chloe and clark you can see the progression your almost waiting for it to happen.
not just be told they are meant to be because of a comic book.//
chloe is wholesome and sexy at the same time . and she knows how to get snappy with clark too ! so they have that dynamic " she can fly " gee clark you really got to get on that one ! "
but chloe does it tastefully when someone else does it it sounds like ... never mind.
anyway they should totalyy be together ,but it's toolate now and if there is a season nine im pretty much done . i did not sign up for lois and clark. in the last episode have clark put his arm around her waste or something like that little hints of the relationship or there mutual felings but right now i feel like a 3,000.00 pound anvil was dropped on my head !
But yes chloe should have been lois even if she just had changed her name to work with perry white at the daily planet , the person who should be owning it not the dam luthors ! anyway i guess these television shows should give some of theretalented fans a shot at being writers but then we would become them . hassled by the movie company's and the comics vbeing told what we can touch and can't touch kind of mess's things though. but as far as clark and chloe go i think no one would have stopped them from having them together . but oh well they played around to long and now they are sacrificing there friendship .
Vindellavon
10-13-2008, 07:34 AM
I wish they had made Chloe the real Lois. We all thought they had when she shed that tear and healed Lois. That would have been great. Chloe would have been a great Lois. She seems like the kind of girl Clark would go for. I really can't see Clark falling for this Lois unless they mellow her out a bit. Realistically if the writers were not bound by mythos/cannon, I think Clark would have gone for Chloe with Lana gone.
I fourth that now. However, there is a major lack of creativity in TBTB, so all we can do is hope.
RedKRules
10-13-2008, 08:24 AM
I fourth that now. However, there is a major lack of creativity in TBTB, so all we can do is hope.
:lol: So true ... sadly true!:(
I wish they had made Chloe the real Lois. We all thought they had when she shed that tear and healed Lois. That would have been great. Chloe would have been a great Lois. She seems like the kind of girl Clark would go for. I really can't see Clark falling for this Lois unless they mellow her out a bit. Realistically if the writers were not bound by mythos/cannon, I think Clark would have gone for Chloe with Lana gone.
I think that if the writers were not bound by canon/mythos, then Clark & Lana would have gotten married in the series finale.
Clana has been THE definitive ship of the series. The only reason it was angsty/torturous was because it was a doomed ship. If TPTB had been given full creative license with it, then S8 would have been setting up the Clana "happily ever after". Chlark, imo, was never in that situation, because Clark has never loved Chloe more than Lana - even when he was given a chance to, again and again.
And I, personally, didn't think that Chloe had magically become Lois Lane when her tear healed Lois. I don't even see how that would work... it would be terrible writing, imo. If Lois was 'healed' then how would Chloe become her? What would happen to Lois's body? If Lois's "soul" was transplanted into Chloe's body, then what happened to Chloe's soul? If Chloe became some sort of freak combo of Chloe and Lois, then who is that, exactly? And to what purpose? To me, that raises much more questions than it answers.... Of course, YMMV.
Clana4Life
10-13-2008, 10:11 AM
I think that if the writers were not bound by canon/mythos, then Clark & Lana would have gotten married in the series finale.
Clana has been THE definitive ship of the series. The only reason it was angsty/torturous was because it was a doomed ship. If TPTB had been given full creative license with it, then S8 would have been setting up the Clana "happily ever after". Chlark, imo, was never in that situation, because Clark has never loved Chloe more than Lana - even when he was given a chance to, again and again.
And I, personally, didn't think that Chloe had magically become Lois Lane when her tear healed Lois. I don't even see how that would work... it would be terrible writing, imo. If Lois was 'healed' then how would Chloe become her? What would happen to Lois's body? If Lois's "soul" was transplanted into Chloe's body, then what happened to Chloe's soul? If Chloe became some sort of freak combo of Chloe and Lois, then who is that, exactly? And to what purpose? To me, that raises much more questions than it answers.... Of course, YMMV.
I agree. If they were not bound by mythos and cannon, Clark would have married Lana. That's pretty much the way it happens for every star-crossed lovers series. They have problems and work through them, but there must always be conflict because a "happy couple" equals a "boring couple" in tv-land. But at the end of the day, no matter how many other relationships they dabble in, you know they are going to get together eventually. However a very legendary love of his life Lois Lane was the biggest impediment to Clana. But if not bound by Clois mythos, I guess Clark and Chloe might have gotten together in between one of Clana's break ups, but one or both of them would realize the relationship was not meant to be, and Chloe would probably be the one to tell him, "we both know where you really belong." I guess the way the shows set up, Chlark never really had a chance.
As for the Chloe/Lois merger. I always thought Lois would live, but that Chloe's spirit would be a strong force within her. It would still be the Lois that everyone knows, but she'd possess some of the characteristics of Chloe. The Chloe that we all knew would be dead, though. This has been done in movies before, but I don't know how it would have gone over in SV.
Vindellavon
10-13-2008, 10:16 AM
:lol: So true ... sadly true!:(
Kelly darling, it's not our fault they can't right a decent paragraph furthering a character arc without screwing over another character in the process. coughchimmycough
Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 11:18 AM
chlark in the sense of anything resembling and mutual relationship never really began
crush was Clark's jelousy, the realisation that Chloe is attractive and a girl who likes him, etc etc... but he never felt much more than that. and that's exactly why she ended it. because she knew that her feelings were much stronger and that the relationship was more important to her
all we got from then on was Chloe's consistent love for Clark. she stood by him, she got jelous sometimes, she eventually was shown his secret but kept it for him, when he found out she became his sidekick and she was happy with that because she knew she would never be anything more. we saw a glimmer at the end of season 5 with the kiss, and then the big hug on the return but it was only ever a glimmer.
all this is why i dont feel in any way that Chlark is over... :lol:
now you may all be very confused at this point, but basically what i'm saying is that Chlark is essentially a fan made relationship. it doesn't matter what happens in the episodes, Chlark is something that is continually discussed and wished for. to say that it is over just because she had enough will power to put on a brave face and pretend she didnt have any of those feelings anymore, well thats just silly
most of the people who identify with chloe in her unrequited love will see right through that. i know that when i was in her situation i was very convincing too :lol:
chlark lives on because of the fans, not because of the storylines or the producers... do you hear that? no matter what you do WE WONT STOP! :lol:
Kalista
10-13-2008, 12:02 PM
but basically what i'm saying is that Chlark is essentially a fan made relationship. it doesn't matter what happens in the episodes, Chlark is something that is continually discussed and wished for.
chlark lives on because of the fans, not because of the storylines or the producers... do you hear that? no matter what you do WE WONT STOP! :lol:
I disagree with the notion that Chlark is a figment of the imagination. If you were to ask Chlarkers why they ship Chlark, most would tell you that they fell in love with relationship because of the way it progressed. We actually saw them grow in love, admiration, and respect for one another over the years. We certainly didn't imagine that as can be seen by the countless Chlark moments.
Also, Chlark lives on because of the storylines. The storylines continue to emphasize Chlark and that is continuing into S8. Clark is focused on Chloe and what's going on with her, Chloe is involved with the Doomsday (which obviously involves Clark), etc. Chlark have the serious storylines.
So, Chlark isn't a product of wishful thinking.
cotton candy girl
10-13-2008, 01:34 PM
I have not seen Chloe and Clark "grow in love" in any other sense than friendship. They have a great friendship and nothing more. There is no Chloe and Clark relationship other than friendship, and how can anyone deny that?
Billy Jor-El
10-13-2008, 03:13 PM
Well, we haven't seen them in major intimate scenes together. Chloe, as she put it, planted one on him in "Zod," but love does not mean lust, the subtleties of their relationship, their true friendship and admiration for each other are more meaningful in the long run than giving each other a cat bath :) Although my tongue drops whenever I see Chloe ;)
cotton candy girl
10-13-2008, 03:46 PM
What Chloe and Clark have is a great friendship. Yes, friendships can be the basis for great relationships, but Chloe and Clark have not been in a relationship since season 1. If I have a great friend who is closer to me than any other friend, we are still just friends until both of us acknowledge otherwise.
Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 03:59 PM
I disagree with the notion that Chlark is a figment of the imagination. If you were to ask Chlarkers why they ship Chlark, most would tell you that they fell in love with relationship because of the way it progressed. We actually saw them grow in love, admiration, and respect for one another over the years. We certainly didn't imagine that as can be seen by the countless Chlark moments.
Also, Chlark lives on because of the storylines. The storylines continue to emphasize Chlark and that is continuing into S8. Clark is focused on Chloe and what's going on with her, Chloe is involved with the Doomsday (which obviously involves Clark), etc. Chlark have the serious storylines.
So, Chlark isn't a product of wishful thinking.
i'm sorry if you got the impression i was suggesting it was a figment of the imagination. that's not what i meant at all. i mean they did go to the spring formal and they have had kisses, and the fever letter certainly promoted the chlark love, but what i'm tryin to say is that the relationship has also been one sided, and that side is chloe
i was a chlarker, but i gave up because Clark is NEVER going to change his mind about Chloe. he doesn't see her that way. what i'm saying is that the fans write fanfictions of chloe and clark getting together, we make suggestions like chlois in order to try and put them together in the future... but it doesnt actually happen on the show. the chlark ship is more an offscreen obsession than an actual onscreen going on
Kevin24
10-13-2008, 04:13 PM
Chloe and Clark share something most married couples would envy! Even Lana has shown jealously of the Closeness between Chloe and Clark. They might not be imitate with each other but they do have a bond that most would envy and most wish they shared with their spouses.
I agree with what hopeful said above me that the romantic relationship has mostly been one sided and Clark has shown that he may be interested in having a relationship with Chloe but for the most part he seems rather indifferent to Chloe when it comes to being in love with her. He loves Chloe but he is not in love with her and there is a big difference between the two.
I do believe that Chloe is quick to assume that Clark wants no part of a romantic relationship with her because of his feelings for Lana. In Season 2 and in Season 6 she was the one to shoot Clark down both times and he has shown visible disappointment each time she does shoot him down. Who knows what would have happen if Chloe would have just told Clark the truth in Season 2 instead of trying to play it cool?
Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 04:17 PM
i think chloe has always just been scared, because he has never really shown any interest, that when he does it isnt as genuine as she wants. like she said, each time they almost, she feels like she is indulging a fantasy.
i connect so much with chloe, because i've been there so many times. i'm kinda there right now too, and everyone sees us as a couple, but we arent. we are so close and we spend all our time together, i love him a lot and have feelings for him, and i know he loves me too bits but as a friend. sometimes your right, and that is something to envy. it is a trust that some people find hard to give to the person they actually want to be with.
Kevin24
10-13-2008, 04:28 PM
i think chloe has always just been scared, because he has never really shown any interest, that when he does it isnt as genuine as she wants. like she said, each time they almost, she feels like she is indulging a fantasy.
i connect so much with chloe, because i've been there so many times. i'm kinda there right now too, and everyone sees us as a couple, but we arent. we are so close and we spend all our time together, i love him a lot and have feelings for him, and i know he loves me too bits but as a friend. sometimes your right, and that is something to envy. it is a trust that some people find hard to give to the person they actually want to be with.
True, I remember in Season 1 she was so worried about Clark leaving her for Lana if Lana showed interest in him. So, I do agree that she is scared that Clark will not return the feelings for her and it would make the friendship awkward though in season 4 he seemed ok with her liking him and their relationship did change.....they got closer.
As far as you and your friend go all I have to say is that you will always be in his life and his girlfriends will come and go but you will be the constant in his life and I hope eventually he sees you the way you see him;)
This is of course if you haven't moved on by then :D
AChloeChick
10-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Although I'm a HUGE Chlark shipper, I'd have to say that it is over. That will only be confirmed in Committed due to the lie detector test.
For the record (not that it matters), I do not think Brainiac has anything to do with Chloe and her relationship with Jimmy. Nor do I think he's the one responsible for Chloe telling Clark she's over him.
I would like to be able to excuse it due to Brainiac, but I simply can't. One of the last 'nails' in that coffin has been nailed by Chloe herself.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! I know they have to 'move on', but they seriously should have and could have done it better. Plus, they could have and should have given Chloe someone much more better and worthy than Jimmy-the-playa-Olsen.
BTW, since when has JO EVER been such an irresistable playa?
Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 04:55 PM
i agree, i would be much happier with the fact that Chloe has actually moved on if i felt an ounce of chemistry in Chimmy... for instance clollie... i could understand her getting over Clark for a man like Ollie...
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As far as you and your friend go all I have to say is that you will always be in his life and his girlfriends will come and go but you will be the constant in his life and I hope eventually he sees you the way you see him;)
This is of course if you haven't moved on by then :D
thanks :D it is a complicated one, but i love having someone just as company, it doesnt always have to be love love love, if you have a bond it can bring you so much happiness
just like Chloe and Clark. they support each other, he relies on her and she does everything she can to help him and vice versa. i'm almost glad they never had a clana type angsty relationship on the show because we wouldn't have been shown just how special Chloe is :)
dimeo782002
10-13-2008, 09:07 PM
I agree. If they were not bound by mythos and cannon, Clark would have married Lana. That's pretty much the way it happens for every star-crossed lovers series. They have problems and work through them, but there must always be conflict because a "happy couple" equals a "boring couple" in tv-land. But at the end of the day, no matter how many other relationships they dabble in, you know they are going to get together eventually. However a very legendary love of his life Lois Lane was the biggest impediment to Clana. But if not bound by Clois mythos, I guess Clark and Chloe might have gotten together in between one of Clana's break ups, but one or both of them would realize the relationship was not meant to be, and Chloe would probably be the one to tell him, "we both know where you really belong." I guess the way the shows set up, Chlark never really had a chance.
As for the Chloe/Lois merger. I always thought Lois would live, but that Chloe's spirit would be a strong force within her. It would still be the Lois that everyone knows, but she'd possess some of the characteristics of Chloe. The Chloe that we all knew would be dead, though. This has been done in movies before, but I don't know how it would have gone over in SV.
for someof us we just felt that chloe would use lois's name as a pen name when she got to the planet. A long time ago chloe wrote an article and used her cousins name on it . some of us thought thatw as a prequal of things to come until the real lois lane showed up. i thought it could have been possible at one time chloe needed a way from the luthors and perry white was supposed to be running the place not a luthor so some of us thought maybe she would have a pen name when she finally entered the dp. and the real lois well who knows ! but when they brought the real one in whoops !
it's just that chloe's character was so lois like to some people. i did not even jump on this theory for a long time cause i was always told by al and miles lois and clark would never happen on smallville so i was never worried about it .
but that was then al and miles are gone and it looks like ps3 has other plans . i don't totally agree with them about it . i9 don't like that clark does not ahve glasses and i don't like that lois knows who he is before superman ... period .
the fever letter never should have been touched imo. chlark were pretty much good friends with some sexual tension but i guess ps3 could not settle it without peeing on chloe's letter.
WickedJenn
10-13-2008, 09:45 PM
I disagree with the notion that Chlark is a figment of the imagination. If you were to ask Chlarkers why they ship Chlark, most would tell you that they fell in love with relationship because of the way it progressed. We actually saw them grow in love, admiration, and respect for one another over the years. We certainly didn't imagine that as can be seen by the countless Chlark moments.
Also, Chlark lives on because of the storylines. The storylines continue to emphasize Chlark and that is continuing into S8. Clark is focused on Chloe and what's going on with her, Chloe is involved with the Doomsday (which obviously involves Clark), etc. Chlark have the serious storylines.
So, Chlark isn't a product of wishful thinking.
I agree with Kalista here on the Chlark ship. It was (and is) definitely not a figment of imagination IMO. Since watching this series from the beginning, there have been an abundance of instances to indicate Chlark. Yes, I am a Clois 'shipper but I'm also an objective viewer and there is no way I could deny the chemistry between Clark and Chloe on numerous occasions. A couple of very significant ones that stand out in my mind are their dance in "Tempest", the office scene in "Magnetic", elevator scene in "Bound", the kiss in "Vessel", etc.
Chloe and Clark are best friends and have had much screen time in their episodes, they've seen their ups and downs but always, they've remained close and though they're getting into some tough stuff this season, I'm sure they'll come through it and continue to have a very strong bond.
christian_kryptonian
10-14-2008, 12:28 AM
:(
Hopefulsuicide
10-14-2008, 05:58 AM
I agree with Kalista here on the Chlark ship. It was (and is) definitely not a figment of imagination IMO. Since watching this series from the beginning, there have been an abundance of instances to indicate Chlark. Yes, I am a Clois 'shipper but I'm also an objective viewer and there is no way I could deny the chemistry between Clark and Chloe on numerous occasions. A couple of very significant ones that stand out in my mind are their dance in "Tempest", the office scene in "Magnetic", elevator scene in "Bound", the kiss in "Vessel", etc.
Chloe and Clark are best friends and have had much screen time in their episodes, they've seen their ups and downs but always, they've remained close and though they're getting into some tough stuff this season, I'm sure they'll come through it and continue to have a very strong bond.
i want to just leave it, but i hate it when one little word that i never even used is taken and run away with, and it's making my origional post come across completely wrong
i never said it was a figment of imagination...
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but basically what i'm saying is that Chlark is essentially a fan made relationship. it doesn't matter what happens in the episodes, Chlark is something that is continually discussed and wished for. to say that it is over just because she had enough will power to put on a brave face and pretend she didnt have any of those feelings anymore, well thats just silly
most of the people who identify with chloe in her unrequited love will see right through that. i know that when i was in her situation i was very convincing too :lol:
chlark lives on because of the fans, not because of the storylines or the producers... do you hear that? no matter what you do WE WONT STOP! :lol:
felt the need to quote myself to make it clear. i am saying that Chlark would continue to exist even if they had never made any hints, because we the fans love the ship. yes they do little hints, but never anything as substantial as the love of chlark deserves, so we have to fill in the blanks ourselves
BTW, since when has JO EVER been such an irresistable playa?
I know!! That's the question I keep asking myself. Even Maxima (a woman known for hating any man that shows weakness) wished he was the guy who she came for... because he was NICE!! WTF??
ginnyfan
10-14-2008, 08:44 AM
I don't think Chlark is over because things are always open to interpretation. Each viewer sees things differently when they watch the show. While some may see the end. Other's may see that Chloe is making a herculean effort to move on despite lingering feelings.
As much as I love Chloe and Jimmy there are problems with their relationship. No relationship is perfect so it really could go either way.
I think the show has tried to indicate that Chlark is not going to fully happen ("Heat", "Facade"). But AM and TW have such great chemistry that... working closely together (in combination with Chloe's crush) is enough to create this really intriguing subtext. I don't think the writers of the show have been blind to this or deaf to what fans like. So they have intentionally flirted with Chlark. I don't know if the writers will continue to flirt with this pairing but as long as Chloe and Clark continue working closely together there will be many Chlark moments to interpret on the show.
I don't think Chlark will ever be fully realized romantically on the show. Clark will never take that step with Chloe. Even if Jimmy and Davis fail miserably as romantic relationships for Chloe, by that time Clark will probably have moved on. Either backwards... dating Lana again... or more likely to crushing on Lois.
It's unfortunate. I wish, earlier in the show, we could have had a Chlark romance.
ETA: About Jimmy being a player... I see it as... the writers of the show creating scenarios in which the nice guy wins. Sometimes it seems that guys are fearful of being vulnerable and hide their hearts behind game. Jimmy is a guy who doesn't hide his heart. He's very open and not afraid to be emotional. There's an innocence there. It's cool to see that women respond to that. Kara's love at first site was a "Beauty and the Geek" gimmick. But in general I think the writers are striving for a sincerity wins out kind of thing... perhaps unsuccessfully. LOL!
AndiGirl
10-14-2008, 09:35 AM
I know!! That's the question I keep asking myself. Even Maxima (a woman known for hating any man that shows weakness) wished he was the guy who she came for... because he was NICE!! WTF??
Seriously!! I was almost waiting for Clark to say that..."What IS it about Jimmy, I dont get it!!" :lol:
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I still personally think chlark is over...but It was definitely real, whether others saw it or not. I'm still waiting to hear what clark thinks though.
Dustmite
10-14-2008, 09:44 AM
...but It was definitely real, whether others saw it or not.
We saw it and I think that's enough. Nothing else on Smallville will match up to Chlark for me so for something that's not real, it made quite an impact.
OutlawAdamKnight
10-14-2008, 06:33 PM
FInally just saw the episode last night and was pleasantly surprised by what I saw. Only about 3/5 overall, but as for "Clark Being Dead" I instead saw a VERY subtle acting performance as TW went out of his way to look Happy and non-chalant about the letter, playing off AM's cool "it's in the past-ness". Expect more heartbreak in coming episodes. Guaranteed. I cant Wait!
AK
Dustmite
10-14-2008, 06:40 PM
FInally just saw the episode last night and was pleasantly surprised by what I saw. Only about 3/5 overall, but as for "Clark Being Dead" I instead saw a VERY subtle acting performance as TW went out of his way to look Happy and non-chalant about the letter, playing off AM's cool "it's in the past-ness". Expect more heartbreak in coming episodes. Guaranteed. I cant Wait!
AK
Hey stranger, it's nice to see you around :)
I haven't watched Instinct. I can't bring myself to but you're not the only one to retain some hope. I, on the other hand, am all hoped out :(
OutlawAdamKnight
10-14-2008, 09:40 PM
Hey DM< I'm still around. Just pickign and choosing.
Look - we all KNOW it'll end up with Lois and Clark. It HAS to. But CHLARK will not die until eppy 9 I figure. And even then, might linger to break my heart a bit more right through to the end of this season.
And I couldn't be happier about it to be honest with you. Bring on the hurt, but make it resonate. that's all we want.
AndiGirl
10-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Well, I dont think Chlarks friendship will ever die. It's impossible. But the possibility of a love relationship...I think that ship has sailed...or as chloe said, "It's firmly anchored at bay."
zorasuperman
10-15-2008, 11:20 AM
irregardless of what shipper you are the fever letter was def closure for chloe as much as it was for clark, that the relationship was finito
i think smallville and all of us owe it to chloe for her to be happy; if she was to be with clark at this point, if ppl stil root for that, i would see it degrading for chloe because chloe would be like a pity thing for clark
even chloe herself said she was happy with jimmy and thats what clark wanted always for chloe for chloe to be happy
Billy Jor-El
10-15-2008, 11:54 AM
Either way, assuming Clark really didn't have more than an idea besides, "...yeah, I guess I always suspected..." then I would think Chloe and Clark will now look at each other quite differently.
rogueslayer1985
10-15-2008, 02:15 PM
hey go to www.cwtv.com/lounge and voice your support of chlark there, i hear that the writers listen to some comments posted here
Rockgod30
10-15-2008, 03:27 PM
Why is Chlark not over?
Well the biggest reason is Chloiac.
Chloe Sullivan is infected with Brainiac and given incredible processing abilities that she used to save Oliver. (Not a spoiler, already shown.)
Because of Brainiac rewiring Chloe's brain, it is clear that the Chlark relationship has taken on a whole new twisted dimension. The enemy is from within, and it is within Clark's best friend. During the Letter Chloe kept cutting Clark off instead of letting him talk. Chloe said that she was over those feelings. Yet this is the same person just a few months ago said, "I love your son." and to Clark "I need you."
So unless a 'lightswitch' happened while Chloe was locked up in Montana about her relationship with Clark and Jimmy, which will be really hard to sell since it was Clark that saved her without powers.
The next reason is that Clark said that he did not know that Chloe felt that way about him. He is just showing his B.D.A. creditials there, but to be fair, it was rare that Chloe let down the mask she wore as best friend. While we, the audience here Chloe's declarations and we were the ones that heard the letter, it was not Clark.
In Devoted Clark said he was not ready to have a relationship with Chloe beyond friends, yet, since the whole thing was caused by Krypto-ade. So all the moments we know that Chloe loves Clark, are not clear to him or how 'intense' her feelings are for him.
From Clark's perspective Chloe has been, and alway will be his best friend first. She did not do what was expected or what he would expect from someone that who wanted to be his girlfriend. So Chloe is Clark's best friend, there is no dispute or doubt about that.
Where does that leave us? Is Chlark over? Not by a long shot, especially with Chloe infected by Brainiac. I can only hope we have an epic Superman-like story of Clark doing what he needs to do to save his friend.
We saw what happened at the end of Season 7 in Arctic. That unlike Lana when Clark found Brainiac attacked her, Clark did not hesitate or wallow in misery when it was Chloe that was attacked. He killed the machine, that mocked his morality at the power planet.
So is romantic Clark over? No. Even if the show tries to end it, because of Brainiac infecting Chloe anything she does is suspect.
Why married Jimmy?
I can think of only one reason. It will hurt Clark. Then when Brainiac sees that Clark places Chloe's happiness over his own, when they dance together at the Chimmy wedding, Brainiac will emerge when his designs are not coming together in his revenge on the Last Son of Krypton. Oh that will be so :eek::D.
This will complicate everything. But to the question of Chlark, it is still there.
~Rockgod30
rogueslayer1985
10-19-2008, 01:41 PM
Why is Chlark not over?
Well the biggest reason is Chloiac.
Chloe Sullivan is infected with Brainiac and given incredible processing abilities that she used to save Oliver. (Not a spoiler, already shown.)
Because of Brainiac rewiring Chloe's brain, it is clear that the Chlark relationship has taken on a whole new twisted dimension. The enemy is from within, and it is within Clark's best friend. During the Letter Chloe kept cutting Clark off instead of letting him talk. Chloe said that she was over those feelings. Yet this is the same person just a few months ago said, "I love your son." and to Clark "I need you."
So unless a 'lightswitch' happened while Chloe was locked up in Montana about her relationship with Clark and Jimmy, which will be really hard to sell since it was Clark that saved her without powers.
The next reason is that Clark said that he did not know that Chloe felt that way about him. He is just showing his B.D.A. creditials there, but to be fair, it was rare that Chloe let down the mask she wore as best friend. While we, the audience here Chloe's declarations and we were the ones that heard the letter, it was not Clark.
In Devoted Clark said he was not ready to have a relationship with Chloe beyond friends, yet, since the whole thing was caused by Krypto-ade. So all the moments we know that Chloe loves Clark, are not clear to him or how 'intense' her feelings are for him.
From Clark's perspective Chloe has been, and alway will be his best friend first. She did not do what was expected or what he would expect from someone that who wanted to be his girlfriend. So Chloe is Clark's best friend, there is no dispute or doubt about that.
Where does that leave us? Is Chlark over? Not by a long shot, especially with Chloe infected by Brainiac. I can only hope we have an epic Superman-like story of Clark doing what he needs to do to save his friend.
We saw what happened at the end of Season 7 in Arctic. That unlike Lana when Clark found Brainiac attacked her, Clark did not hesitate or wallow in misery when it was Chloe that was attacked. He killed the machine, that mocked his morality at the power planet.
So is romantic Clark over? No. Even if the show tries to end it, because of Brainiac infecting Chloe anything she does is suspect.
Why married Jimmy?
I can think of only one reason. It will hurt Clark. Then when Brainiac sees that Clark places Chloe's happiness over his own, when they dance together at the Chimmy wedding, Brainiac will emerge when his designs are not coming together in his revenge on the Last Son of Krypton. Oh that will be so :eek::D.
This will complicate everything. But to the question of Chlark, it is still there.
~Rockgod30
i loved your...speech it was great and i hope your crstal ball is right. i love chlark
dlreinke
10-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Why is Chlark not over?
Well the biggest reason is Chloiac.
Chloe Sullivan is infected with Brainiac and given incredible processing abilities that she used to save Oliver. (Not a spoiler, already shown.)
Because of Brainiac rewiring Chloe's brain, it is clear that the Chlark relationship has taken on a whole new twisted dimension. The enemy is from within, and it is within Clark's best friend. During the Letter Chloe kept cutting Clark off instead of letting him talk. Chloe said that she was over those feelings. Yet this is the same person just a few months ago said, "I love your son." and to Clark "I need you."
So unless a 'lightswitch' happened while Chloe was locked up in Montana about her relationship with Clark and Jimmy, which will be really hard to sell since it was Clark that saved her without powers.
The next reason is that Clark said that he did not know that Chloe felt that way about him. He is just showing his B.D.A. creditials there, but to be fair, it was rare that Chloe let down the mask she wore as best friend. While we, the audience here Chloe's declarations and we were the ones that heard the letter, it was not Clark.
In Devoted Clark said he was not ready to have a relationship with Chloe beyond friends, yet, since the whole thing was caused by Krypto-ade. So all the moments we know that Chloe loves Clark, are not clear to him or how 'intense' her feelings are for him.
From Clark's perspective Chloe has been, and alway will be his best friend first. She did not do what was expected or what he would expect from someone that who wanted to be his girlfriend. So Chloe is Clark's best friend, there is no dispute or doubt about that.
Where does that leave us? Is Chlark over? Not by a long shot, especially with Chloe infected by Brainiac. I can only hope we have an epic Superman-like story of Clark doing what he needs to do to save his friend.
We saw what happened at the end of Season 7 in Arctic. That unlike Lana when Clark found Brainiac attacked her, Clark did not hesitate or wallow in misery when it was Chloe that was attacked. He killed the machine, that mocked his morality at the power planet.
So is romantic Clark over? No. Even if the show tries to end it, because of Brainiac infecting Chloe anything she does is suspect.
Why married Jimmy?
I can think of only one reason. It will hurt Clark. Then when Brainiac sees that Clark places Chloe's happiness over his own, when they dance together at the Chimmy wedding, Brainiac will emerge when his designs are not coming together in his revenge on the Last Son of Krypton. Oh that will be so :eek::D.
This will complicate everything. But to the question of Chlark, it is still there.
~Rockgod30
Rockgod30 ITA! Chlark never was a simple question, then there is not a simple answer! This answer can't not be given with some lame quotes from poor written episodes! Yes the Chlark question still stands! I hope someday there will be a properly answer. One that is believable and makes sense. :cool::D
tibbit78
11-26-2008, 06:34 PM
I wish that Chlark weren't over. As much as I love Lois, I also love Chloe, and also Lana. I'm hoping that Chloe & Clark are BFF (best friends forever).
joyce20
04-01-2009, 12:18 PM
yeah i feel like chlark is finally over. It sucks considering that I've been rooting for those two since season one, but at least chloe wasnt turned down again in the process. I'm glad that she said "you missed your chance" and not clark saying "i wish I felt the same (like he did in S4).
yes i do spend alot of time rewatching smallville episodes lol
JaredThaJa
04-04-2009, 01:45 PM
Instinct's sections on the Episodes Page is broken, everytime I click on something for it it takes me to committed instead?
I wanted to check out Charlotte Sullivan's Promotional Images again.
jpfort1957
08-31-2009, 10:44 PM
Not till Chloe is "pushin' daisies"
Raistlin
10-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I think the fever letter was brought back to show that Chloe has moved on.
Ditto.
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