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BrandonR
10-09-2008, 07:03 PM
Okay, so someone knew about the crystal, and they were powerful enough to steal it from Tess Mercer. Then, at the end, she gets an email from who has it and the email says "You're not ready yet - X".

Do you think X stands for Lex?

pharaoh8
10-09-2008, 07:03 PM
any guesses?

Ardiem3
10-09-2008, 07:03 PM
The email to Tess at the end saying, "Looking for this, youre not ready yet - X." Could that X be for Lex and hes the one who sent the email?

Krypton935
10-09-2008, 07:04 PM
Could it be lex!!!! ahhh

kal-el returns
10-09-2008, 07:05 PM
This is some major plot, season 8 is getting better by the minute. Who is this "X" and what does it know about that crystal? My speculation is that it's Chloe, but somehow it was Brainiac controlling her. I also thought it might have been Maxima, taking it on her way out.

pharaoh8
10-09-2008, 07:06 PM
kelsi i love ur avi. i wish i was her too.

amberdawn
10-09-2008, 07:06 PM
I'm telling you, it's Lex.

ClarkyBoy14
10-09-2008, 07:06 PM
Lex? Martian Manhunter? Brainiac? Maxima? Dr. Groll?

Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Lex? Maxima? MM? Those are my only guesses right now. O_O

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
My first thought was Lex...I dont know how though.

Mar-El
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Charles Xavier, obviously.

green_arrow_girl358
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
le-X, lex!

Razzle
10-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Xavier?

B_M4N
10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
I'm pretty sure it is Lex.

Québec
10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
Am I the only one who figured this out? It's so obvious!

It's Xzibit, he's here to pimp some rides.

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
For some damn reason, I thought of Count Vertigo when I saw that. Makes no sense. Could be Lex.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
Yep, my first thought was Lex. I have no clue how thats possible though...he would have to be a sneaky bugger.

Unless....he's in hiding somewhere and the scientist stole it for him....or it's just the scientist signing as LEx?

6-Super-Man -5
10-09-2008, 07:09 PM
Something to do with Lex.

green_arrow_girl358
10-09-2008, 07:09 PM
jor-el? knowing it would make its way back to clark. is he not ready for the fortress to come back? and how does jor-el sand emails? i don't know

pharaoh8
10-09-2008, 07:09 PM
xavier is from xmen. different comic universe. they are marvel.

abbaspice1
10-09-2008, 07:09 PM
I thought Charles Xavier--- except that is Marvel comics and not DC.

Oh well, maybe it was Chloe or Davis perhaps?

Fallen One
10-09-2008, 07:10 PM
The red X is the symbol that LexCorp uses in the comics. That is Lex's mark! Lex has the crystal!

Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:10 PM
Am I the only one who figured this out? It's so obvious!

It's Xzibit, he's here to pimp some rides.

:lol:

AHA, Tess isn't ready to pimpin' that crystal yet. :lol:

green_arrow_girl358
10-09-2008, 07:10 PM
yes prof x! of course! he he.....no

superman07
10-09-2008, 07:11 PM
pRetty much agree with everyone else. My first thought was LeX

rconner
10-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Not Manhunter, he wouldnt of sent an email.
Lex is what the writers want everyone to think. Think its going to be someone else.

Smallville6
10-09-2008, 07:11 PM
leX!

makethings
10-09-2008, 07:12 PM
could it be doomsday?

Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:13 PM
Not Manhunter, he wouldnt of sent an email.
Lex is what the writers want everyone to think. Think its going to be someone else.

Maybe it's Lana? I have no idea, haha.

susangail
10-09-2008, 07:13 PM
The e-mail reminded me more of Dr. Swann's original notes to Clark.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 07:13 PM
The red X is the symbol that LexCorp uses in the comics. That is Lex's mark! Lex has the crystal!

Now that I've thought about it...i think the scientist took it.....maybe for Lex?? :eek:

Razzle
10-09-2008, 07:14 PM
haha well u did say to guess...

lovinredkclark
10-09-2008, 07:14 PM
the writers are teasing us with lex. but i have to agree with Kal-El Returns, its probably chloe with brainiac controlling her.

Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:14 PM
It's probably someone who we'd least expect.

Québec
10-09-2008, 07:15 PM
It's X to da Z Xzibit.

ClarkyBoy14
10-09-2008, 07:16 PM
Whoever it is, I wasn't expecting that. I'm really liking some of the twists we're getting this season. :)

pharaoh8
10-09-2008, 07:16 PM
LOL

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haha well u did say to guess...

i know. it would be cool but that would never happen.

Razzle
10-09-2008, 07:16 PM
well whoever it is we shall find out soon becuase clark gets the fortress up and running in the next few episodes if i am not mistaken.

skylar
10-09-2008, 07:18 PM
It has to be LEX.

redkryptoniteisthebest
10-09-2008, 07:19 PM
Maybe it's Lana? I have no idea, haha.

Nol! It's Shelby! You know it is...

Aloof
10-09-2008, 07:19 PM
You know, maybe it's someone that we don't expect to take it...

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Nol! It's Shelby! You know it is...

AHA, he's definitely low on the suspect list!

joel_2_28
10-09-2008, 07:20 PM
i really hope tat is lex but i don't know... and when do you think we will find something out about the mysterious "X"

SuperJedi
10-09-2008, 07:20 PM
What was said?

rconner
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
Lois has the crystal?

myankskent
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
TPTB obviously want us to think that it's Lex.

J_woman_power
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
I seriously doubt it.... no clue who it could be though

ClarkyBoy14
10-09-2008, 07:21 PM
Probably Lex...

Aries83
10-09-2008, 07:23 PM
I think it was Chloe.

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:25 PM
Luthor!

SuperJedi
10-09-2008, 07:26 PM
What was said?

What did the email say?

redkryptoniteisthebest
10-09-2008, 07:28 PM
TPTB could be tricking us into thinking that it is Lex, then we think that it isn't because "its a trick by the PS3". But, then the whole thing is really a trick. The X is Lex.

Now, that would be crazy, lol.

Minela
10-09-2008, 07:33 PM
OMG! OMG! OMG!

Discuss. :D

pjack
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
very good twist. It probably is Lex since he knows CK's secret. But he isn't going to tell her and let her know all yet. Remember knowledge is power and lex wants to stay on top always. He probably doesn't know CK got his powers back or maybe that he even survived.

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 07:34 PM
What about? X? If so there are like 2 other threads on it :D

pharaoh8
10-09-2008, 07:37 PM
you are not ready for this yet...X

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maybe it was a veritas member. i mean seriously...who else would have access to the mansion? (well speaking as if Lex is still missing)

KalEl's Destiny
10-09-2008, 07:39 PM
Guys is it really Lex!? Or do we want it to BE Lex? I personally do...and he was the first person that came to my mind obviously with the 'X'LOL. But who knows! Man this season is getting better and better!!

Aries83
10-09-2008, 07:46 PM
I wouldn't mind if it were Lex, but that's so predictable. I'm hoping it was Lana or Chloe.

Lana could still be holding a grudge against Lex when she returns, so she has it stolen to protect Clark. She has the resources to do it, too. Don't forget about the 10 million dollars she embezzled from Lex while they were married.

I also think it could be Chloe, who keeps blacking out (much like Davis), and steals the crystal using Brainiac-like superspeed.

roccanater
10-09-2008, 07:51 PM
Am I the only one who figured this out? It's so obvious!

It's Xzibit, he's here to pimp some rides.

Yeah. That's classic.

Meteror Freak
10-09-2008, 07:57 PM
Whoever it was, is putting Tess through some sort of training because they said "you are not ready yet." It must be Lex or some other sort of villain who's preparing Tess for something. Otis, maybe???:lol:

Lionel back somehow???:(

BrandonR
10-09-2008, 07:57 PM
Lana could still be holding a grudge against Lex when she returns, so she has it stolen to protect Clark. She has the resources to do it, too. Don't forget about the 10 million dollars she embezzled from Lex while they were married.

When I saw some mentions of Lana at first I thought that was just weird speculation, but you make a good point. Lana may recognize that the world needs Clark more than she does, but that doesn't change the fact that she will always love him and that she will want to protect him if she has the power (and ten million dollars is power).

---SPOILERS FOLLOW---

Not only that, but Lana is, afterall, coming back for a few episodes this season and they can't bring her back out of the blue. Sure, it's looking like she's coming back for Chloe's wedding, but she's going to be in five episodes. She can't be sitting around baking brownies, so there needs to be a point to her coming back. This could be part of it.

My guess is still Lex, but Lana is entirely possible.

Minela
10-09-2008, 07:59 PM
It's Lex. I know MR is never gonna come back, but they could still have Lex communicate via e-mail. They could also use old footage of Lex sitting at a chair, behind a computer or in the last episode Lex coming into his office. There must be some footage of MR lying around somewhere. :D

Aries83
10-09-2008, 08:00 PM
My guess is still Lex, but Lana is entirely possible.

I'm with you on that, but still hoping for a different possibility at the same time.

nicmar
10-09-2008, 08:02 PM
seeing as plastique has been introduced and she is a long term member of the suicide squad also called taskforce X that is another possibility seeings as it has been pointed out Lex is not comming back

tippership commander
10-09-2008, 08:10 PM
ONLY LEX would SAY SOMETHNG like that,..

if MR does a suprise appearance, then the CW will get ratings THRU the roof...

xavier vs lex? lol



I think that is LEx's symbol..

and , LEx is the only guy who would directly take dow ntess, like that, or at least tell her that...


Luthor's return!

HotStudsSuccess
10-09-2008, 08:10 PM
Ok, we named the obvious suspects. Now, here's mine Malcolm X anybody?

I know! i am crazy :rotfl:

Aries83
10-09-2008, 08:13 PM
ONLY LEX would SAY SOMETHNG like that,..

if MR does a suprise appearance, then the CW will get ratings THRU the roof...

A surprise appearance wouldn't work since they'd have to hype it up in promos...fans would have to know beforehand.

silverdragon
10-09-2008, 08:15 PM
i agree it could be lex or maybe the J'hon....

curiosity
10-09-2008, 08:17 PM
It's Lex.

pleasenoclois
10-09-2008, 08:18 PM
X is Lex who has taken over Clark's body. That's my guess.

avisray1992
10-09-2008, 08:19 PM
I think it was Chloe, but I also think it could be Dr. Groll since he wasn't seen again after the beginning scene with Tess.

Chlois Supporter
10-09-2008, 08:20 PM
We can rule out a number of people right away.

Maxima didn't even care about the Crystal. There's no reason she'd take it.

Chloe didn't know about the Crystal till Clark told her, and when he did he even said that he searched the mansion and DP and it wasn't there. Since he's the one who informed her Tess had it, and he already had searched for it prior to telling her, she couldn't possibly have taken it.

The Doctor was hiding from Lex for like, 2 seasons. I doubt he'd be lured out of hiding just to steal the crystal from Tess, since the last time he was around he was afraid of an alien peice of technology.

Which leaves Lex. So guess what, it's Lex.

MrZeppo
10-09-2008, 08:23 PM
I think it's Lex too. It just sounded like Lex, you know? I know MR isn't signed on for appearances so...

1) He may sign on later on in the year for an episode or two, who knows?
2) They play it off like he's manipulating things behind the scenes.

Either way, I think Jor-El is slated to reappear in "Abyss". Either that or we see Clark trying to find the crystal, reconstitute the FOS, or maybe even getting access through the cave wall again like the good ole days.

Tzvi
10-09-2008, 08:23 PM
My first thought was Lex as well, but as everybody seems to think that, I imagine it is just a red herring.

I do have two DC related thoughts, well technically one is just from a DC based cartoon.

If you notice, the text of the email changed to the color red when the X appeared.

In the Teen Titans cartoon there was a character called Red X, who was originally Robin in disguise. Frankly, I am pretty sure it is not Robin.

Meanwhile on the comics end, John Jones, a.k.a. The Martian Manhunter, traditionaly sported an outfit when two straps crossed over his chest. The straps were red and they formed an X. Sounds like it could be him. Of course why the hell would he write such an email, how would he steal it since he is now powerless, and would TPTB even think of that connection.

Hmmm... the plot thickens.

Bizarro345
10-09-2008, 08:24 PM
Bizarro!!!...no...(sigh). It's probably Lex.

avisray1992
10-09-2008, 08:27 PM
We can rule out a number of people right away.

Maxima didn't even care about the Crystal. There's no reason she'd take it.

Chloe didn't know about the Crystal till Clark told her, and when he did he even said that he searched the mansion and DP and it wasn't there. Since he's the one who informed her Tess had it, and he already had searched for it prior to telling her, she couldn't possibly have taken it.

The Doctor was hiding from Lex for like, 2 seasons. I doubt he'd be lured out of hiding just to steal the crystal from Tess, since the last time he was around he was afraid of an alien peice of technology.

Which leaves Lex. So guess what, it's Lex.


It could've been Brainiac taking over Chloe at the time and she didn't have control over it and he/she is X.

susangail
10-09-2008, 08:28 PM
I'm warming up to the Lana suggestion.

cygnusx1
10-09-2008, 08:28 PM
impulse from the jl

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 08:29 PM
I still think it was the scientist....who took it for Lex, who's in hiding?? Lex couldnt have physically been there....but the scientist was.

nipvillesmlltuk
10-09-2008, 08:29 PM
I agree with the Lana-sayers :)

Karafan1
10-09-2008, 08:30 PM
I'm also thinking it might be Lana..

Aloof
10-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Hey, you never know... Like a few others have said, TPTB want to make it look like it's Lex.

Liquid-Prince
10-09-2008, 08:34 PM
I'm guessing that TPTB means "The Powers that Be" right?

kris10
10-09-2008, 08:34 PM
lex lex lex you sly dog you!

tippership commander
10-09-2008, 08:36 PM
We can rule out a number of people right away.

Maxima didn't even care about the Crystal. There's no reason she'd take it.

Chloe didn't know about the Crystal till Clark told her, and when he did he even said that he searched the mansion and DP and it wasn't there. Since he's the one who informed her Tess had it, and he already had searched for it prior to telling her, she couldn't possibly have taken it.

The Doctor was hiding from Lex for like, 2 seasons. I doubt he'd be lured out of hiding just to steal the crystal from Tess, since the last time he was around he was afraid of an alien peice of technology.

Which leaves Lex. So guess what, it's Lex.

LOL, i though abotu REd x from titans, but...o way..

they wouldnt put robin on the show THAT way if they were going to...hey, wait a sec, ...oh wait, grays aren't ....ill stay off that topic


I think, that there's 3 suspects. most liekly...

1. Lex......the baddest villian to walk SM
2. I'm going to put her here, thoug hits a tie with 3rd kidna...Maxima...

she knows abotu the beacon, but you're right, she has no reason to do anything with it
3. Lana??She's tough but.... she might have the motive, ..
hm, as i think about it, she just might be there

4th, chloe finished the list as the least likely of the 4 most likely ppl to do it....( no doomsday, he 's not even around this time,...?)
mm SILL NEEDS his powers bACK...

Prob LEX.....
(off topic)
i just realized, tonight the CW proved they;re pushing Love as a theme, but, Tess doesn't have a bf.....so maybe a secret admirer???? i kno , a random thoguht, no one woudl be her bf...cept Lex, and he'd ...school her badly..

Still, Lex is #1 guy who wold tell her" you're not ready yet"

Aloof
10-09-2008, 08:37 PM
I'm guessing that TPTB means "The Powers that Be" right?

That's correct!

Mar-El
10-09-2008, 08:37 PM
xavier is from xmen. different comic universe. they are marvel.

Really :eek:

I knew that, it was a joke ;)

Drakaun
10-09-2008, 08:39 PM
Yeah I think you can definitely rule out Lana, why the hell would Lana send an email with a picture saying "You aren't ready yet" If it was Lana trying to protect Clark she would just steal it and not give any sort of clue to its whereabouts to Tess. Lex is the only person I could see taking it and saying you aren't ready yet I think that is pure Lex Luthor right there, secretly pulling all the strings from the shadows. But no way to connect it to him. That is my guess, the others wouldn't really bother sending Tess an email like that.

silverdragon
10-09-2008, 08:40 PM
why would lana steal it...she was long gone b4 the fos collapsed and how would she have found out that tess had the crystal

Chlois Supporter
10-09-2008, 08:40 PM
It could've been Brainiac taking over Chloe at the time and she didn't have control over it and he/she is X.

And how did a Brainiac possessed Chloe take the Crystal, if he's possessing her, without her control, that still doesn't solve the problem of how he knew Tess had the thing since none of the characters knew till tonight, and Chloe, whom Brainiac is inside, didn't know about it till after it had been stolen from Tess.

MAR-MAR
10-09-2008, 08:42 PM
I'm thinking Chloe. Because of her Brainiac infection she know what the crystal is and what it can do. Brainiac wanted to use Lex so maybe he wants to use Tess somehow also. Brainiac know that Clark will what ever it takes to save Chloe even though she tells him not to. Chloe just doesn't relize she has it.

ChronX4
10-09-2008, 08:43 PM
Just watch it be Lana >_<

Chlois Supporter
10-09-2008, 08:47 PM
It can't. Be. Chloe. It can't be a Brainiac possessed Chloe. Clark was the one who told Chloe (And hence Brainiac) That Tess had the crystal, and that he'd searched the logical places she'd hide it and it wasn't there. So Chloe went to Tess to try and get it away from her, and Tess told her it was stolen.

So, it wasn't in the logical places that Clark looked, the reason it wasn't there, is because it was stolen BEFORE Chloe and Brainiac even learned that Tess had it. Thats why he couldn't find it, it had already been stolen. Since Clark told them it still existed, and that he couldn't find it, it was stolen before they knew it survived the destruction of the FOS It can't. Be. Either. Of. Them.

galatians221
10-09-2008, 09:01 PM
Could Milton Fine be around the corner again, or could Jor El be functioning somehow through someone? Who would "X" be? Other candidates could be Oliver or one of the others on his team. I'd rule out Aquaman however.

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Sorry. I didn't see the other post at the end of page 2

kryptonian13
10-09-2008, 09:01 PM
the first thing that came to mind when i was watching that was that it was lex..............but it can be some one else..........

pizzahead2490
10-09-2008, 09:03 PM
i think lex

Kal-El-073
10-09-2008, 09:06 PM
And how did a Brainiac possessed Chloe take the Crystal, if he's possessing her, without her control, that still doesn't solve the problem of how he knew Tess had the thing since none of the characters knew till tonight, and Chloe, whom Brainiac is inside, didn't know about it till after it had been stolen from Tess.


It can't. Be. Chloe. It can't be a Brainiac possessed Chloe. Clark was the one who told Chloe (And hence Brainiac) That Tess had the crystal, and that he'd searched the logical places she'd hide it and it wasn't there. So Chloe went to Tess to try and get it away from her, and Tess told her it was stolen.

So, it wasn't in the logical places that Clark looked, the reason it wasn't there, is because it was stolen BEFORE Chloe and Brainiac even learned that Tess had it. Thats why he couldn't find it, it had already been stolen. Since Clark told them it still existed, and that he couldn't find it, it was stolen before they knew it survived the destruction of the FOS It can't. Be. Either. Of. Them.


The one thing you're all forgetting though is the fact that Braniac can pick up on Kryptonian beacons and signals. He is Braniac after all. He could very well be controlling Chloe without her even knowing it. I'm not saying this is what happend, but I wouldn't be surprised.

susangail
10-09-2008, 09:08 PM
It has to be someone who understands the significance of the crystal. That short list does not include Lex. But he did eventually connect all those mysterious S7 crystals with Clark, which is why Tess tested Clark in Chloe's office.

The beacon could have been read by any number of people, some of whom we might not even have met on SV yet. The short list of people we already know are Clark, Chloe, Lana, Kara, Brainiac, and MM. Heck, maybe Doomsday knows.

AndiGirl
10-09-2008, 09:09 PM
I doubt it was Clark...since he basically agreed to let Chloe go into the lions den to get it (by helping tess). Can you imagine Clark.."hahah...just kidding Chloe...I had it all along! Psych!!!" :lol:

Meteror Freak
10-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Maybe Tess has multiple personality disorder and stole it from herself and then sent the e-mail to herself.:lol: just kidding

I'm actually starting to think that it was NOT Lex. If it were Lex, he wouldn't hold it until Tess was ready to use it. He would use it himself. The e-mail sounded like someone older and wiser took the crystal. Someone like Lionel or Swann. Obviously not them, but someone we haven't seen on the show yet. What I don't get is, when will Tess be ready, and why Tess??? What connection could she possibly have to Krypton? I wish we knew more details about how the crystal was stolen, so we could make more theories.

RedKRules
10-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Lex my friend, wherever hole you are .... don´t come out! I am saying this for your own good!

krpto
10-09-2008, 09:43 PM
Could it be smallville's version of Xotar? http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=xotar (http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=xotar)

Yes I googled dc comics and the letter x and this was the closest I could find other then characters weve already seen and none of them have gone by the letter X.

susangail
10-09-2008, 09:49 PM
Definitely not Clark :) Not Chloe or Kara, either. Doesn't seem like something MM would do.

The e-mail could be interpreted several ways -- mildly supportive, a taunt, or both (smells like the way Brainiac treated Lex). Could be Brainiac, Lana messing with Tess, or someone else.

Kschreck
10-09-2008, 09:59 PM
My money is on Lex. Lex will be coming back to do voice work but so far no actual physical appearances (this is what the people in the know are saying). Whoever it is wants Tess to eventually have the object or learn about it but feels that the person is not ready yet. Someone intends to want to mentor Tess.

Chloe obviously wouldn't want to mentor her (and didn't appear to know that the crystal was taken until Tess told her) and I doubt Brainiac would eventually work with Tess. There has been no examples thus far showing Brainiac taking control of Chloe's brain to the point of making her do stuff she doesn't want to do.

Maxima doesn't want to help anyone and only wants a mate. She would have no reason to work with Tess Mercer and as far as we know, Maxima will not be coming back anytime this season.

I don't think a regular joe scientist has taken it either because I feel that it is very unlikely for someone working under Tess to believe he/she is superior and has the ability to mentor Tess.

I heard Lana's name thrown around a bit but, as we know right now, Lana isn't evil and would never work with Tess against Clark and the upcoming Lana episodes would suggest that Lana will not be coming back as a villain of sorts.

There has also been no suggestions of any new enemies that would fit the bill as someone evil who wants to work with Tess and knows about the crystal but intends to slowly bring Tess into the know.

As far as I am concerned, the secret person who goes only by "X" is Lex. Maybe he went into hiding after the whole fortress collapse incident and maybe Lex truly believes (in some corrupt minded way) that Clark is out to destroy the world and he went into hiding until he can figure out away to handle the situation better. We all know that Lex deep down inside merely wants to control "The Traveler". Either way, since Lex is gone other then appearing later in the season via voice work, it is my belief that this story will slowly open up.

It would be nice to see Lex back for a couple full episodes but as of right now it doesn't look like he is going to come back other then performing voice work in an episode or two. I believe "X" is Lex and cannot think of anyone else who would be interested in working with Tess against Clark and believes that they are superior to Tess when it comes to handling the traveler.

I_am_LEX
10-09-2008, 10:00 PM
Lex makes sense... maybe too much sense. Unless he will indeed make an appearance in episode 10 or 11. Or perhaps, Oliver took it at the request of MM. He would be one to tease Tess and throw her off course. Does anyone remember a letter or email from an "x" in a prior episode? I swear there was once, owell. My two guesses are Lex or Oliver... and Oliver, if its him, will give it back to Clark when MM tells him to... that makes sense, right? Another clue it might have been Oliver was he sent that dress to Tess and an invite to that club, yet he wasn't even there... a very subtle clue that not everyone would pick up on. He knew she'd decline but it's an aliby (horrible spelling lol) he now has so that she'd never suspect him. just a thought

Karafan1
10-09-2008, 10:07 PM
Wow 5 pages already...I'm still sticking with my Lana theory..

deaner1232
10-09-2008, 10:12 PM
To me i think its someone that is maybe on her side, other wise would the email include the word YET. I'm thinking its definatly not a good guy.

susangail
10-09-2008, 10:14 PM
Whoa, Oliver? I suppose he might do so on request by the right person, even if he didn't know what it was for.

Kschreck, I agree that Lana wouldn't work against Clark. Maybe handing it to Clark will be part of her re-entrance ;)

Lex is just way too obvious. I'd be so disappointed if they resorted to a phone-mentoring plot device. They haven't done nearly the work required to establish that relationship.

sinz.
10-09-2008, 10:23 PM
maybe its batman!
or the question!

SnowBird
10-09-2008, 10:23 PM
I also believe Lex is too obvious to be X, but I have no clue who X could be. Somehow I believe the scientist has something to do with taking the crystal for X. Since he left Lex and went into hiding, I don't believe he would be involved with Lex. This is very interesting. I love a good mystery.

chobee
10-09-2008, 10:24 PM
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!! It's Lana fools!

ClimbingTheLog
10-09-2008, 10:26 PM
The one thing you're all forgetting though is the fact that Braniac can pick up on Kryptonian beacons and signals. He is Braniac after all. He could very well be controlling Chloe without her even knowing it.

^this

Balthaazar32
10-09-2008, 10:37 PM
My money is on Lex.

Bre723
10-09-2008, 10:46 PM
The red X is the symbol that LexCorp uses in the comics. That is Lex's mark! Lex has the crystal!

oooo, maybe.
maybe it was a lie about rosenbaum not coming back to toy w/ us.
ugh...i can't stand this!!!!

TECHWON
10-09-2008, 10:57 PM
i think it's either davis/doomsday or it could be chloe/brainac i'm dunno

Iluvgreen
10-09-2008, 11:04 PM
My first thought was lex. now im afraid that when he comes back hes gonna kill her. im scared. i love lex though. if it is him, then its like hes testing her or something. and its weird, but so like him.

christian_kryptonian
10-09-2008, 11:06 PM
xavier is from xmen. different comic universe. they are marvel.

LOL LOL LOL Pretty sure they knew that. It was a joke.

Bre723
10-09-2008, 11:12 PM
It's not Chloe, that would be dumb.
It makes no sense....well unless it was brainiac, but i think that the brainiac this is kinda over done by now.

People are saying Lana, but idk.
why would she do that to Clark if she loved him, and well, still does.
it would releav too much to tess and i don't think that lana would do that.

oliver...also woulden't really make sense i don't think.

lex is the only thing that i could think of, but i really don't know.
The CW probley just wants us to think it's lex and so far it's working, but hey this is smallville, you never know what's arounf the corner.

But still.....am HOPING it's lex!!!!

LoisL
10-09-2008, 11:18 PM
LEX!
I started screaming pathetically at the end of the show when I saw that blinking red X! :D would be such a classic, savvy Luthor twist having our beloved villainous baldie pulling strings offscreen while the world figures him dead or missing/amnesiac.

I was actually absolutely positive it was Lex until I came here and saw there was a discussion going on....

JEWCY
10-09-2008, 11:20 PM
only logical solution i can think is Brainiac-he knows the technology, he has messed with Lex before, and he knows really nobody is ready.

Lex ain't coming back. Chloe or Lana wouldn't do it. and it wouldn't be in the pattern of how Smallville does things if it was Maxima. She woulnd't be introduced in an episode where they are doing a whole different mystery plotline (even though she is somewhat involved)

red_cape_7
10-09-2008, 11:24 PM
lex. it seems too easy but that's b/c it is.

superspider02
10-09-2008, 11:44 PM
Yea i say lex like most people have said already. Yes from right now we know michael doesnt want to return but whos to say he would not be willing to return during the second half of the season filming between jan-march. Maybe if he doesnt end up getting any film/tv roles by jan he would be willing to return in person and do an episode or two. From last i heard he has been looking for film work but hasnt got anything yet as far as i know.

noblue4u
10-09-2008, 11:53 PM
We know Lex. He would never share the power of the crystal with anyone, including Tess. As a matter of fact, he probably would have her killed upon returning to public life. She's very much like him, his most able apprentice. She's smart, cunning, and ruthless, trained by the master himself. That makes her a threat to him, even if she worships him. So why would he string her along like this? If he has the crystal, why not either use it or return to Luthorcorp? He can't be afraid of Clark... he know's enough about the Traveler to know that he's weakened by kryptonite. If he has retained those memories, then he has nothing to fear from Clark!

Also, keep in mind that in Abyss, Clark asks Jor-El to edit Chloe's memories. That means that the Fortress will have returned by then... possibly in that episode. If LEX has the crystal, how the hell does Clark get it back from him if he doesn't even know if he's still alive?

Chloniac was involved, no doubt about it. Brainiac strung Lex along by giving him the inside scoop on the Traveler. The note says that she, Tess, is not ready yet. I think that really means that Brainiac is in no state to take advantage of Tess as he is now, stuck inside of Chloe and still (for the most part) subject to her influence. Thus, he plays on Tess' hubris and her idolization of Lex. She sees the "X" and assumes, like many on this board, that "X" means "Lex."

Don't misunderstand me. It's not like I think the Smallville writers are particularly good at subtlety. In fact, I think the not-so-subtle hint was not the "X" but the reaction Chloe had when Tess mentioned the so-called "computer." Chloe, being a walking database for the 28 known galaxies (etc, etc) would probably know what was going on. Brainiac probably had to use as much influence on her as he had manage to build up over the past couple of months to take over for a short time. He did so long enough to bypass what must have been one hell of a lot of security protecting the crystal and then left that little e-mail present behind.

But, again, the biggest clue is right there in the spoilers section: The crystal (and subsequently the Fortress) are returned by the end of "Abyss," and this will very likely happen in the midst of that episode. It's more than likely that, while trying to help Chloe, he finds the crystal and enlists Jor-El's help in curing her of her Brainiac infestation after recreating the fortress.

ReD-SpideR
10-09-2008, 11:54 PM
its most likely Brainiac impersonating as Lex to tess as a way to have her free "him".. and in doing so, if lex does return for acting he could be a possessed Brainiac or not but it gives him the option to act if he wants to come back for a few episodes.

all in all, i think its Brainiac posing as Lex to get Tess to do work for him, and possibly free him/rebuild him .. ect. maybe even using the fortress to re-release him.

smallvilleclark
10-10-2008, 12:02 AM
Could it have been oliver? He is a good thief. Maybe he is holding back giving clark the crystal because clark held back information on his father?

dezperado
10-10-2008, 12:04 AM
Maybe Lana. She's still got money, and has the smarts from living with Lex to set up such a powerful heist like that. And she would know how to get into the mansion secretly.

Be With You
10-10-2008, 12:04 AM
Lex? Braniac? :O

I hope it is Lex. I miss him. *coughs and makes lame joke about Lex having the 'x' factor* :D

4Clana
10-10-2008, 12:21 AM
I think it's Lex too. It fits with the note saying you're not ready yet.

LastSonKalEl
10-10-2008, 01:11 AM
okay sorry didn't read all..but I am totally stoked that are writing this mysterious badguy figure....I just hope the whole plot isn't extremely disappointing leading up to a lame ass finale like last years......hopefully the new producers wont cop out..and they will make it intersting AND have a good payoff...

I think it's could be Lana protecting Clark, Brainiac manifesting itself through Chloe....GA was sort of AWOL could be Ollie..... It had to be someone with superspeed or someone who wasn't that busy this episode......Lois could have taken it maybe but I doubt she had the time...Chloe was busy, Jimmy was busy....we're looking outside the core four I think..but who knows

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it would be cool if it were Ollie holding back on Clark...I mean wtf why didn't clark tell him....I think tis because he wanted to doubt it...it was never expressed explicitly if Lionel killed them or not....he even denied killing his parents after the fact...it's all a jumble with Lionel bc he was originally intended as evil but they decided they wanted to make him this martyr for redemption lol....who knows

dezperado
10-10-2008, 01:26 AM
Ok, ok, Lex is the obvious choice. But seriously what about Lana? It makes a little sense given what we know is coming without knowing too much.

ginnyfan
10-10-2008, 01:27 AM
I thought of Lex and Chloe's Brainiac. I'd like it better if it were Lex. I'd like it even better if there was a chance MR would come back for an episode or 7.

AgentChaos
10-10-2008, 01:45 AM
Lex is too obvious.

Kalista
10-10-2008, 02:29 AM
Chloniac was involved, no doubt about it. Brainiac strung Lex along by giving him the inside scoop on the Traveler. The note says that she, Tess, is not ready yet. I think that really means that Brainiac is in no state to take advantage of Tess as he is now, stuck inside of Chloe and still (for the most part) subject to her influence. Thus, he plays on Tess' hubris and her idolization of Lex. She sees the "X" and assumes, like many on this board, that "X" means "Lex."

I think it could be Chloiac too.

supert
10-10-2008, 03:36 AM
Lana no joke.

LoftofSolitude
10-10-2008, 03:36 AM
I didn't even think about Lex to be honest. I see him as off the show, end of story, so I don't even think of him as a part of the show anymore. The obvious choice for me when i saw it was Chloiac. I'm sure Brainiac has something up his sleeve.

Oh and for anyone who says it was impossible for him to know, if Brainiac is in Chloe, then I'm sure he picked up on the beacon from the crystal if Maxima did from planets away

shadow4486
10-10-2008, 04:49 AM
I haven't read any of the posts from page 2-6 so forgive if I repeat.

It's Martian Manhunter. If you remember from the comics his costume has a read X across his chest. he would be the only one who would have known about the beacon and the crystal that Tess hadn't figured. He would know about Almerac and Maxima. He can be invisible and read minds too. He has it but I don't know why he would say you're not ready yet...yet...why yet?

But it was totally MM. Why use the red x since we haven't seen him in the costume yet is beyond me.

IT WAS NOT LEX!!! IF IT WERE WHY USE CODE! JUST SAY LEX!!!

Mr.Magic
10-10-2008, 05:27 AM
Lex was always obsessed with the X, but the only person I know that actually called himself X was Jaxon Xavier aka Lex Luthor Jr. (Lois & Clark: Virtually Destroyed).

Estro-gen X
10-10-2008, 05:37 AM
I'm saying chloe but some other options for a red X
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/martianpic.jpg http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/04nbod/257716-14740-red-x_large.jpg

KaraClarkfan
10-10-2008, 06:41 AM
could it be bart?

Heroes
10-10-2008, 07:42 AM
Xavier is also an alias by martian the manhunter.

but something else i noticed is martian manhunter's sign on the front of his suite

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/Mmsheet.jpg

notice the x

CallMeClark
10-10-2008, 07:50 AM
I was thinking Davis...

Super Maverick
10-10-2008, 07:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_DC_Comics:_X

tariksam
10-10-2008, 07:55 AM
Lex...not doubt about it.

Bizarro_33.1
10-10-2008, 07:59 AM
Could it be ollie and the J-league? or maybe it IS lex.. but im dying too figure out what the hell is going to happen.. :eek::eek::confused:

MozartRequiem
10-10-2008, 08:03 AM
Hello, all! :)

I want it to be Lex because I'm obviously a huge Luthor fan, but just so I don't get my hopes up TOO high, I do have another theory as well:

What if, as people have said, it's Chloe as Braniac? Now the remaining question is: why would she/he write "X"? What the heck does that have to do with Braniac?

My thought on that: Chloe/Braniac writes "X" to entice Tess, and pretends like she/he IS Lex through the clues they leave, finally leading Tess somewhere where Braniac can confront her and trap her.

Reeve_290
10-10-2008, 08:09 AM
I don't think it's Lex and if it is (and they're not using Michael later in the season) then I'm gonna be pissed. But if they actually bring him back then thats cool.

I like the Chloe as Brainiac idea, probably the most likely cos it has to be someone who knows who Clark is and what the crystal does.

I think Lana is the best option though. Cos at least we know for sure that she's gonna have some role in this season, perhaps she still trying to protect Clark from afar? I know most of you won't want it to be her, you've gotta admit that she's a likely possibility, given her development and the way the SV writers work, yeah?

Billy Jor-El
10-10-2008, 08:13 AM
Lex would be the first obvious choice....but, would Lex really tell her she's not ready for it yet? He'd keep it for himself and not share it with anyone, though possibly just a ploy/taunt on his part. Perhaps "yet" means she needs to fully know about Krypton and the Traveler? Perhaps then she can bring back Lex with its powers? Or not.... Interesting speculation here, though to be sure.

Kal-alien
10-10-2008, 08:16 AM
Okay I"ll bite. I'll throw out someone who hasn't been mentioned yet (Probably because it's a horrible idea) It's Myx!

(I actually have been leaning toward Chloiac)

costas22
10-10-2008, 08:17 AM
I don't think it's someone close to Clark.If the JL,MM or Lana got a hold of the crystal they wouldn't dangle it in Tess' face.I think it's someone with a dark motive.Either Lex(when i saw the X i got chills just to the thought of him coming back) or Chloe taken over by Brainiac.

Super Maverick
10-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Malcolm X?

Agent Mulder of the X-Files?

The X-Men?

An X-Rated movie producer?

Macintosh operating system OS X?

Luke Skywalker and his X-Wing?

Someone with a pair of X-ray glasses?

mof123
10-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Thinking it is Lex does basically confirm the spoiler about him but its too obvious that we would instantly think its lex based on what we have heard and/ or read

mistaguitarmasta
10-10-2008, 08:58 AM
My initial thought was Bloomesday, but Chloeiac is a possibility. Or even Lana.

Guidron
10-10-2008, 09:08 AM
My initial thought was Davis whom I think is Doomsday.

supergirl28
10-10-2008, 09:25 AM
It could be Lex. My first thought to, but the X is way to much of a give away. It could be Lana as well. She may have left Clark, but she's still looking after him. KK is supose to be on this season. Maybe it's Lana who sent the threat, but put an X so Tess wouldn't put the pices together as quickly.

SnowBird
10-10-2008, 09:37 AM
The e-mail saying Tess isn't ready for the crystal yet leads me to believe that X is going to side with Tess in the future. There are only two beings to this date that would be on the side of Tess against Clark and that would be Lex and Brainiac. If X has the crystal, why not just go form the fortress now? Lex would but Brainiac has to work through Chloe and she isn't totally taken over yet so there is some resistence to making the fortress till Brainiac is ready to be whole. All this to say I think it is Brainiac. If I were Clark, I wouldn't be quick to confide in Chloe knowing Brainiac is responsible for her intelligence.

Mr.Magic
10-10-2008, 09:49 AM
...There are only two beings to this date that would be on the side of Tess against Clark and that would be Lex and Brainiac...

Maybe it was Xod. :p

FlashInSV
10-10-2008, 09:55 AM
Uuhhh... the fact that he/she signed with an "X" doesn't really mean the letter is included in their name. So stop saying Lex, Xavier and other "X" names.

No matter who he/she/they are ,it looks like we have a major plot in our hands.

SuperDean
10-10-2008, 10:00 AM
It is Imperiex, who will show up as the villain that Johns was surprised he was able to use in the "Legion" episode.

Mr.Magic
10-10-2008, 10:01 AM
Uuhhh... the fact that he/she signed with an "X" doesn't really mean the letter is included in their name. So stop saying Lex, Xavier and other "X" names.

No matter who he/she/they are ,it looks like we have a major plot in our hands.

Well, besides any yet unknown party it has to be Lex, unless Chloe had "episodes" in Offscreenville.

Also, I am always absolutely serious, even when I put a smiley next to the text. :rolleyes:

beternal
10-10-2008, 10:04 AM
I think it's Davis Bloome... Some aspect of his alien side coming through, it's clear the originator is evil... maybe he is trying to (or going to try to) use Tess to get to Clark

seara
10-10-2008, 10:30 AM
Malcolm X?

Agent Mulder of the X-Files?

The X-Men?

An X-Rated movie producer?

Macintosh operating system OS X?

Luke Skywalker and his X-Wing?

Someone with a pair of X-ray glasses?

Ellie X ?
Google X ?
Who knows ?

All about Clark
10-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Even though Lex is likely and would be cool, I don't think it was.

Even Tess mentioned there were only a few who knew of it's existence, and I have a sneaking suspicion that Dr Groll has it. Or that Dr. Groll possibly gave it to maybe Lana. But I still go with Dr. Groll.

Also, another possibility is that Clark has it and didn't want Chloe to know because of her Braniac infection. And I have to say, I was worried Chloe might have wanted it for herself while she was speaking to Tess.

Dpyro
10-10-2008, 10:48 AM
it has to be lex cause he's suppose to come back for a couple of episodes anyway so maybe they're setting that up

HornFan02
10-10-2008, 10:49 AM
I figured it was Martian Manhunter. wasn't that the symbol on his chest?

Liquid-Prince
10-10-2008, 11:15 AM
I figured it was Martian Manhunter. wasn't that the symbol on his chest?

That's a possibility, but I always thought that was just a belt he wore.

Estro-gen X
10-10-2008, 11:16 AM
Ellie X ?
Google X ?
Who knows ?

superman x- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_X

Timester
10-10-2008, 11:20 AM
Nine pages and only one person tagent to the real explanation.

There was a Mr. X in Lois & Clark, the big crime boss of Metropolis.

I'll give a cookie to the one that remembers it.

Hint, the name was given over and over again on this thread. :p

Myrddin
10-10-2008, 11:48 AM
We are supposed to think Lex.

But I bet that Chloe/Brianiac stole it and is making Tess (and us) think that it is Lex.

faz
10-10-2008, 12:44 PM
superman x- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_X

Well that would be a tie-in to the Legion episode (albeit it not a good one - why would Superman X tell Tess she isn't ready YET, thereby implying that one day she will be ready?) As for me, I have no idea who it is, but I'm gonna throw Lex out there just because it's the only one that makes sense to me.

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We are supposed to think Lex.

But I bet that Chloe/Brianiac stole it and is making Tess (and us) think that it is Lex.

That's possible was well.

Bruce Knight
10-10-2008, 12:45 PM
im hoping it is him but smallville has tricked us before

biggkoz
10-10-2008, 01:29 PM
I think its shelby.

neo0721
10-10-2008, 01:32 PM
mayeb lex is stuck in the crystal

biggkoz
10-10-2008, 01:36 PM
I changed my mind I think X is Dawn Ostroff.

ginnyfan
10-10-2008, 01:47 PM
I changed my mind I think X is Dawn Ostroff.

LOL!

I like the MM idea. Though I doubt he would have left Tess a note. Also MM probably would have given the crystal back to Clark.

A crime boss would be interesting also.

L Nasty388
10-10-2008, 01:51 PM
well considering the literal RED X and the fact that the person who took up the red x persona after robin was a THEIF and the whole taskforce x thing with plastique, maybe one of the ppl in that group knew about it and is the red x idk and then theres wut timester said about the mr. x thing in lois and clark and not to mention the obvious giveaway when lois said to maxima that "theres nothing romantic bewtween lois and clark", ummm she cudnt have just said me and clark? so with that out there and the X and the fact that Mr. X is a crimeboss in metropolis in the lois and clark show then thats always a possiblitly, speaking of crime bosses maybe morgan edge had a successor and since he knew clarks secret, maybe this mystery person his successor and has all of his old files in the same way that tess has succeeded lex and has all his files, this wud be the perfect tess rivalry and partership i.e lionel and morgan

ballofsteel
10-10-2008, 02:49 PM
It wasn't even a signature, it was just a kiss. x :)

oberyn
10-10-2008, 02:52 PM
We are supposed to think Lex.

But I bet that Chloe/Brianiac stole it and is making Tess (and us) think that it is Lex.

I like that idea. Particularly the possibility that Chloe isn't aware of some of the things she's doing while under Brainiac's influence.

gem65
10-10-2008, 03:22 PM
It could be lex - but I somehow doubt it. It would be too obvious. I have no idea who it could be. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

:cool:

xrayvision
10-10-2008, 04:04 PM
My guesses:

-Lex's guy, Regan
-Dr. Groll
-Lionel (back from the dead?)
-Lex
-The Brainiac side of Chloe where she blacks out & he takes over
-Ollie (he never showed up at the club where he was supposed to meet Tess, so maybe he robbed her instead)

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I like that idea. Particularly the possibility that Chloe isn't aware of some of the things she's doing while under Brainiac's influence.

Wow, I see I'm not the only one with this idea.

SandyV
10-10-2008, 04:21 PM
I like that idea. Particularly the possibility that Chloe isn't aware of some of the things she's doing while under Brainiac's influence.

I think that is a good possibility.

I think that Oliver could have taken it, considering his past history with Tess.

Estro-gen X
10-10-2008, 04:54 PM
well considering the literal RED X and the fact that the person who took up the red x persona after robin was a THEIF and the whole taskforce x thing with plastique, maybe one of the ppl in that group knew about it and is the red x idk and then theres wut timester said about the mr. x thing in lois and clark and not to mention the obvious giveaway when lois said to maxima that "theres nothing romantic bewtween lois and clark", ummm she cudnt have just said me and clark? so with that out there and the X and the fact that Mr. X is a crimeboss in metropolis in the lois and clark show then thats always a possiblitly, speaking of crime bosses maybe morgan edge had a successor and since he knew clarks secret, maybe this mystery person his successor and has all of his old files in the same way that tess has succeeded lex and has all his files, this wud be the perfect tess rivalry and partership i.e lionel and morgan

thats some good thinking, I still think its chloiac though

xrayvision
10-10-2008, 05:02 PM
Chloe blacking out and doing things as Brainiac would put her on a major parallel to Davis/SVDoomsday.

Estro-gen X
10-10-2008, 05:06 PM
she doesn't even have to black out just forget that she ever did it.Dooms knows something is going on Chloe could just be at her laptop, take a minute to send the email and then go on with her business like she didn't notice what she did

shawn316
10-10-2008, 05:45 PM
My best guess would be Lex. But actually, when I watched this scene, my first instinct was Bruce Wayne. I know this is probably so far from the truth, by I happened to notice the "W" embedded in the crystal. Plus the music that built sounded very "Batman-like". Even if this idea isn't likely, the more I started to think about, the more I seen how awesome this theory could be...

Seeing that this is more than likely the final season, how awesome would it be to hint around and introduce Bruce Wayne and his connection to Superman. They could use him much like they did with Virgil Swann, back in season two. Have him sending cryptic messages throughout the season, only introducing him in the final 2-3 episodes. An awesome finale I began to picture was Clark being led to Bruce towards the end of the season. Clark meets him in Wayne Towers and Bruce says "Hello Kalel...I think I have something that belongs to you." As he says this, he hands Clark the FOS crystal, and says to Clark; "I think you know what you need to do with this." It would be a great way to mirror season 2, only this time, Clark is ready to accept his destiny and Smallville ends with Clark beginning his training in the reconstructed FOS.

What do you think?

redRound
10-10-2008, 05:59 PM
I think it's Lex. It's the obvious choice but really it's the only one that makes sense. Why would either Lana or Brainiac leave that message for Tess? Lex is the only one who would say that to her.

clarkbunny
10-10-2008, 06:24 PM
OK here's my theory

The crystal thief is none other than Clark Kent - he stole it from Tess when he supersped away from the Isis foundation.

He lied to Chloe about searching for it and not finding it because he was worried about her increasing Brainiac powers so didn't want her to know he has it. He wants to recreate the fortress and take Chloe there to get rid of her Brainiac powers.

It's similar to the lies he told Kara getting her to believe some mysterious person swiped her crystal when it was him all along. Clark Kent is a dark horse with a crystal fetish :D

My other theory is that Maxima took it - in which case the x in the e-mail symbolised her kiss :p Perhaps she plans to use it to somehow summon her man Clark!

redRound
10-10-2008, 06:41 PM
OK here's my theory

The crystal thief is none other than Clark Kent - he stole it from Tess when he supersped away from the Isis foundation.

He lied to Chloe about searching for it and not finding it because he was worried about her increasing Brainiac powers so didn't want her to know he has it. He wants to recreate the fortress and take Chloe there to get rid of her Brainiac powers.
That's an interesting theory. I could believe. Clark has been worried about Chloe's Brainiac infection, so it's plausible that he kept it from her. Especially if he intends on curing her once he recreates the Fortress. And maybe he's taunting Tess with that message.

I like this idea, if it's not Lex, then I'd like it to be Clark.

susangail
10-10-2008, 06:42 PM
The Clark theory is intriguing, but why wouldn't Tess connect its disappearance with Clark's leaving?

Kal el of krypton
10-10-2008, 07:40 PM
yeah i thougt maxima might have taken it when tess first mentioned to chloe it was stolen. But since she left and obviously couldn't send an email lol. However it could be lex, i only thought it might be lex by coming on this forum. There is speculation on MR return as lex so that could be a good way of him coming back.

redRound
10-10-2008, 08:14 PM
The Clark theory is intriguing, but why wouldn't Tess connect its disappearance with Clark's leaving?
I don't think Tess is that knowledgeable about things, (well, as knowledgeable as I initially thought she was), or capable of connecting the dots together. When the Dr said the crystal was of alien origin she dismissed the possibility immediately. She even mocked the idea. Why would she do this? Doesn't she have the research on the black Ship etc..

I don't think she's in the game at all. Asking Chloe to hack into the crystal!? That should be the last person she turned to. Lex wouldn't have made that mistake. He'd know that Chloe would go straight to Clark and they'd work against him. I don't think Tess really knows how deep the mistrust and scheming is. Or that this goes beyond meteor freaks.

Dale-el
10-10-2008, 08:18 PM
Superman X from the future. kel-el? A clone of Kal-el. Seems plausible. Maybe the message is meant to get back to the present day superman and was not really meant for tess

Maybe kara stole the crystal because she is upset with clark for not doing anything to help her. and he stole her crystal so really fairs, fair, eye for an eye that sort of thing

clarkbunny
10-10-2008, 08:34 PM
The Clark theory is intriguing, but why wouldn't Tess connect its disappearance with Clark's leaving?

That is the only thing that makes me doubt whether it was Clark.

But Clark could have vanished then come back again and stolen the crystal in which case Tess would think that Clark was long gone so she wouldn't connect him with the crystal going missing.

Or Tess might not have actually realised it was missing until she got back to the mansion in which case she wouldn't know whether it was taken at the Isis foundation or somewhere between there and the mansion.

I remember being quite shocked when I found out that it was Clark that stole Kara's crystal. I never expected him to do that. So now where missing crystals are concerned Clark is always the number one suspect. He certainly has motive to take it and to be honest once he saw Tess with the crystal why would he leave it with her for any longer than he needed to when he has the power to take it from her without her knowing.

I think I have just convinced myself even more that it was Clark :lol:

Randy G.
10-10-2008, 08:39 PM
Watch it be Lana. It's a plot device for her return episode.
She's gonna' show up, wearing it like a big gaudy brooch. :lol:

Seriously though, I think it will be her.

Shadowlord367
10-10-2008, 09:24 PM
Why would the writers have it be Lex, when there's nowhere they can go with that storyline? There's no plans for him to return, so why would they write themselves into a corner in that regard?

I think the "X" was used algerbraically rather than to represent the X in Lex's name. Though clearly that's who Tess is going to assume.

If only a "select few" knew about that crystal, then maybe the Brainiac WITHIN Chloe heard it when Tess told Chloe, and they took it.

Taking it a step deeper, could the "you're not ready yet" mean that Brainiac is planning on using Tess to release Zod, like he did with Lex and Clark in season five?

Or is it Lana, and the reason for her eventual return is because the storyline with Tess and the crystal comes to a climax on wedding day (and not the type of climax Lois was referring to in the episode)? Only time will tell.

Karafan1
10-10-2008, 09:37 PM
I really don't know much about Davis/Doomsday's backround, but if he is from krypton maybe he stole it..

redRound
10-10-2008, 09:46 PM
^ But surely they can't bring the Zod story back! I know they can, but surely they want to write other stuff. Why would they want to rehash all of that. But I can see Brainiac being behind it. Maybe he plans to use Tess for something else.

If it's Lana I'll be truly shocked. How can it be her!? How did she know Tess had the crystal in the first place? How did she know where it was, how did she get it!? The security must still be lax at the Luthor mansion. Why would she email Tess that message? I swear if it's her they'll have some serious explaining to do.

I'm still hoping it's Lex, if not I like the Clark theory. It's probably Brainiac though.


I really don't know much about Davis/Doomsday's backround, but if he is from krypton maybe he stole it..
What would he do with the crystal? Maybe use it to track Clark down? Idk. I'm not happy about Hulkday.

chlark_4ever
10-10-2008, 11:53 PM
i think is lana lang and the X is the 2 "l"

nothingwithoutchloe
10-11-2008, 12:00 AM
Why would Lana ever tell Tess that she isn't ready for the crystal yet, she knows all about Clark, she would have given him the crystal as soon as she had it. I don't think there is any way it can be her.

I also don't think it can be Clark. Why would Clark tell Chloe that he needs her to get the crystal so that they can cure her, why wouldn't he just say I have the crystal let's go to Jor-El so he can help you. Unless he said it that way to see Chloe's reaction to getting cured, see whether she wants to be cured or not. Knowing what she's infected with though I'm sure she wants to get cured.

Also don't believe it's Maxima, MM, or Doomsday. I think Maxima and MM would have given Clark the crystal if they had it. The email said that Tess isn't ready for the crystal yet which means they probably plan on giving it to her at some point and I don't think Maxima or MM would want Tess to have the crystal that they know belongs to Clark. I don't think Doomsday fits into any of this.

Karafan1
10-11-2008, 12:08 AM
It probably won't end up being Doomsday, but if it is, atleast I'm on record for calling it right! lol..

clarkbunny
10-11-2008, 01:26 AM
OK here's my next theory if it is not Clark.

The person who sent Tess the green dress and invitation is the person that stole the crystal. Tess assumed Oliver Queen sent her the dress but she didn't know for sure that it was him.

I think the person who sent the dress is not Oliver Queen it is someone completely different who we have yet to meet who knows something about the crystal and maybe kryptonians.

From their e-mail I am not sure about that person's alignment as in whether they are good or bad but the 'x' makes me think it is a man.

My list of suspects for this theory
1. Unknown man
2. Regan (maybe she didn't bump him off after all)
3. Dr Kroll (or whatever his name is, the scientist from the start of the program)
4. The other kryptonian living on earth (maybe Brainiac didn't kill him)

Also the unknown man might possibly be someone who was summoned to earth by the signal sent out by the crystal.

ReD-SpideR
10-11-2008, 01:37 AM
for the people who said its "martian the manhunter" i bilieve he had his powers taken away when he saved clark. but then again, clark did say something like about not being the last time he sees him.

Chlois Supporter
10-11-2008, 04:25 AM
Nine pages and only one person tagent to the real explanation.

There was a Mr. X in Lois & Clark, the big crime boss of Metropolis.

I'll give a cookie to the one that remembers it.

Hint, the name was given over and over again on this thread. :p

Well let's see, considering Lex was Mr. X in Lois and Clark, then everyone who said Lex would have been right anyway. So Lex still is the "real explanation" just as saying its Lex, with the secret identity of Mr. X is the real explanation.

I'll take that cookie now.

strawbot
10-11-2008, 05:32 AM
The X could be as in Lex's ex, Lana. She knows her way around the mansion; she's capable; she might be looking at Tess as an inadequate successor and she certainly would know the value of the crystal.

Then again what about Ollie? He shoots crooked arrows sometimes, and x could be a crossbow. He has history with Tess and did send her the dress to attend a function that he wasn't present at.

skully
10-11-2008, 07:07 AM
How awesome would it be if "X" was Lex? Can we hope for a one episode appearance from Rosenbaum sometime this season?

disciples of zod
10-11-2008, 09:13 AM
my 3 guesses:

lex
martian manhunter
brainiac
(in no particular order)

or maybe lana???? do i hear a lana vote????

~H

xrayvision
10-11-2008, 11:28 AM
she doesn't even have to black out just forget that she ever did it.Dooms knows something is going on Chloe could just be at her laptop, take a minute to send the email and then go on with her business like she didn't notice what she did

By blacking out, I meant that she switches from one personality to another regardless of whether she goes into an unconcious state. I think the same happened to Kara. I think Brainiac while on Krypton implanted her with a piece of himself and caused her to have that headache after she drank the milk. Then, he sent her to the FOS and pretty much controlled her body to open a portal to the Phantom Zone and walk in.

----- Added 8 Minutes later -----

One thing though is that there wasn't a lot of time between when Clark told Chloe about the crystal and when she went to the mansion to take up Tess' offer. So this could mean that the Brainiac part of Chloe sensed the crystal's beacon as Maxima did and took over Chloe & went to retrieve it sometime after Tess showed it to Clark. Chloe was behind the scenes for the majority of the episode (in the Talon apartment). Brainiac would love to get his hands on the crystal & prevent Clark from getting it. It can maybe even bring him back. I think it will turn out to be Chloe and the entire incident will be used to stress how dangerous having Brainiac's presence in Chloe is.

redkryptoniteisthebest
10-11-2008, 02:08 PM
After hearing people say Lana, I wouldn't be surprised. But, my guesses are:
-Lex
-Lana
-Chloniac

ISUZU
10-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Hi

Its been a long time. I think we can safely take out the following from our discussion:

1) Lex - I think he is trapped inside the Crystal in another dimension and will be released on Earth with a memory wipe once Clark throws the crystal back into the ice. 0% chance that it came from Lex.

2) Some Gangster leader from the City. 0% chance.

3) Oliver - unlikely.

The possobilities are:

1) The Martian Manhunter - because as someone has said he wears that red X. But again you have to ask why the strange message "You are not ready.." addressed to her. 40% chance.

2) Chloe - under the influence of Braniac without realizing - clue could be that Braniac has plans for Tess for ultimate world domination and is more plausable becuase the message is aimed at Tess. Plus the IT skills behind sending an email with no email address. 90% chance.

3) As someone has mentioned Clark - we know he hides stuff when it comes to Crystals and could be trying to test Chloe to see if Braniac emerges from her. Possible rating 70%.

4) Secret Government Agency who have learnt about it - 60%

5) Bruce (Batman) - I say this becuase its his style to do something like that email - and no one can deny the batman like music. 30%.

Other things that one should consider - is that whoever took the disk must have also sent that outfit for Tess earlier in the episode. We know it was not Oliver because he was never at the bar where Maxima went to, and Tess did not turn up to the mystry invite and assumed it was just Oliver.

I tell you what - I think this had one of the best mystry endings in Smallville in a long while, and was probably the best.

xrayvision
10-11-2008, 08:31 PM
I like your analysis ISUZU. But I don't think Lex is trapped in any crystal or dimension. I think he's wandering throughout the world, which will make him all the more dangerous and full of contacts when he re-appears (whether or not that happens on the air or in offscreenville).

I think it would be very cool if it was Lionel back from the dead. Especially if the crystal turns out to house not only Jor-El's AI (which we know is true) but also the Eradicator & possess & heal Lionel's body as its own. Scenes with a super Eradicator Lionel and Tess would be beyond awesome.

Aldo
10-11-2008, 10:06 PM
Lex! :D

xrayvision
10-11-2008, 10:07 PM
It would be awesome if it was Morgan Edge & swaps it to her for some future freaks/members of Intergang.

OutlawAdamKnight
10-11-2008, 10:54 PM
I vote Virgil Swann.

Nightwish07
10-12-2008, 03:26 AM
could it be doomsday?

I think ur right that is the symbol for Doomsday/hence Davis Bloom - AKA - well u catch my drift!!!!!!!
I guess we will just have to keep watching to find out or just "Google it"
:rotfl: ;):D:\:rotfl:

KaraClarkfan
10-12-2008, 06:57 AM
I vote Virgil Swann.

isn't he dead?

bizzaro93
10-12-2008, 02:35 PM
I immediately thought it was Lex but, I noticed the image that came up looked ALOT like Braniac's head/symbol.

Image from instinct:
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Image:S0804-7.png

And image of Braniac's Head
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lexiac.jpg

Another image of cartoon Braniac:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Brainiac(STAS).jpg

If you look at his head, its almost an exact copy as from the image from instinct. the "W" could very well be the 3 dots on his head, after all, they sort of make the shape of a W.
They look VERY similar.
My guess it's Braniac/Chloe. :cool:

thebog1
10-12-2008, 03:26 PM
It's definitely not Lex Luthor unless the show recasts the character - which they're not going to do after the same actor played him for seven years. It would throw off everything related to Lex Luthor. Essentially, the chemistry and 'feel' wouldn't be there.

It could be the professor because Tess Mercer had to goad him out of hiding. If she couldn't have forced him out of hiding, it's possible she couldn't have found him. If he has gone missing again. . .

It's not Maxima - she didn't care about the crystal. She cared about the beacon and finding Clark Kent.

It's not Lana Lang. She'd never return the object to LuthorCorp, given its past history with Clark Kent, and the way the e-mail is written, whomever has the crystal will return it when Tess Mercer is ready.

It's not Chloe Sullivan - the Chloe Sullivan side to her. It could be Brainiac's side of her but this is unlikely. Brainiac isn't usually the type for cloak-and-dagger routines. The only exception I can think that could be considered cloak-and-dagger would be when he portrayed Kara; however, even then he was direct and to the point about sending Lex Luthor after Clark Kent.

That leaves... Lois Lane, the Justice League and Jimmy. They're all ruled out for various and extremely obvious reasons. It's not Martha Kent. It's not the Martian Manhunter.

It could be a future villain that speculation has been revolving around.

There are simply too many 'could's' at the moment. There's no real way to know who it is until we have more details than just an e-mail message and a picture of the crystal.

mof123
10-12-2008, 03:26 PM
it could be the Eradicator
you know
he is a supervillain as well

DonnerR
10-12-2008, 04:07 PM
'X' is I'm very sure is Lana. There is no conceivable sense plot-wise for the character to be Lex.

Oh btw, this episode is pure nonsense and the filmmakers overdosed on French kissing and saliva dribbling! LOL.

superhippie2000
10-12-2008, 04:13 PM
i dont think its lex. im thinking its another supervillian. one we either met or havent met. a hero would of given it to clark and wouldnt have let tess know she needs to learn more before she can handle the crystal or whatever it said. could be chloe/brainiac and chloe didnt know cause brainiac might be able to control her to a certian point. thought it could of been maxima till tess got the message cause why would maxima want to help tess or even contact tess about it. might be someone we havent met yet.

mof123
10-12-2008, 04:14 PM
filmmakers?????????????????????????
really????????????
wow
you mean series producers

DonnerR
10-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Yes filmmaker, or if you want to be precise TV producer. Frankly, I don't bother!

Sweetie
10-12-2008, 05:01 PM
X is Lex whoelse would have write:You're not ready yet.It could only be her mentor of course.

clarkbunny
10-12-2008, 05:12 PM
everyone is saying lex but why would Lex steal the crystal from Tess - she works for him???

It just does not make sense.

amberdawn
10-12-2008, 05:17 PM
It's definitely not Lex Luthor unless the show recasts the character - which they're not going to do after the same actor played him for seven years.

Why would they have to recast him? Ever heard of offscreenville?

I still think it's Lex.

OutlawAdamKnight
10-12-2008, 05:45 PM
Virgil Swann all the way.

Billy Jor-El
10-12-2008, 06:28 PM
I disagree with Swann. If it wasn't Chris in the role, maybe, but out of respect I think the character of Virgil Swann is gone. Now, if there was someone else who had worked for Swann (other than Margot's character)....perhaps....?

HowardFilms
10-12-2008, 06:53 PM
Gorilla Grodd.

alienkinfolk
10-12-2008, 07:24 PM
I immediately thought it was Lex but, I noticed the image that came up looked ALOT like Braniac's head/symbol.

Image from instinct:
http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Image:S0804-7.png

And image of Braniac's Head
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lexiac.jpg

Another image of cartoon Braniac:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Brainiac(STAS).jpg

If you look at his head, its almost an exact copy as from the image from instinct. the "W" could very well be the 3 dots on his head, after all, they sort of make the shape of a W.
They look VERY similar.
My guess it's Braniac/Chloe. :cool:

This is great research, and now I too believe it's Brainiac, I was going with Doomsday but I like where you're heading...

Sweetie
10-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Brainiac would make alot of sense too.I am so hoping it's Lex.Just to see his shadow in a dark alley or a phone's call would be enough.

chloesmygirl
10-12-2008, 09:19 PM
12 pages and nobody has mentioned the guy from the first episode I forget his name but it's the one that injected Chloe with that stuff that made her do what they wanted. He disappeared and hasn't been seen since. Tess treated him bad so he could have taken it to get back at her.

thebog1
10-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Why would they have to recast him? Ever heard of offscreenville?

I still think it's Lex.

For two reasons:
It's been established he was not coming back this season.
MR publicly wrote a letter to his fans stating that he was moving on. To come back would make him a liar. It would be bad for his public relations and/or bad for his agent. It would show inconsistancy between what he says and what he does.

Ergo, if the character 'Lex Luthor' shows up again in Smallville, it will need to be a different actor.

I take it you forgot about the letter MR wrote to his fans...?

boocherhix
10-12-2008, 09:41 PM
I changed my mind I think X is Dawn Ostroff.

Haha, kudos. That made me laugh.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/3386/804smallville1324cv6.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=804smallville1324cv6.jpg)http://img131.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Okay, look at her face ^^. That look says it all. (To me at least) It's a look of shock/surprise. I don't think she'd make the same expression if she had no clue who the sender was. Who else would cause such a reaction but the man she was looking for. The man who Tess knows who the "X" is representing. He molded her and all that stuff. There's a STRONG mentor-ish vibe in that e-mail. He had to have seen some potential in her to devote so much time into doing that. But, despite that, Lex isn't gonna show his hand to her right away. He's never that open or obvious. I mean look at him & Lana. Deception is his game. He's just giving her a little nugget.

Plus, last week's Ausiello Files adds credence to this line of thought -

"Anyway, here's that Smallville scoop you demanded: Although there are no firm plans for Michael Rosenbaum to return as Lex this season, if producers have their way, you'll likely be hearing him long before seeing him."

...if producers have their way...

The "X" is not meant to be a mystery. Tess knows who it is. And so should the audience. So, I agree that I think it was stolen, either by Dr. Groll or Regan. And Lex now has it and is letting Tess know because for some reason, he isn't "ready" to return to public life just yet.

And, on a "won't happen, but would be dang groovy if it did" side note - yeah, shawn316, I too thought immediately of "Wayne" with that W logo. Perhaps with the Graysons picking up steam, Bruce in Smallville isn't far behind? He is a master at this type of stuff...:D

But I do agree Lana has to come back for more reasons than Chloe & Jimmy's wedding. But it doesn't make sense that she'd be dropping hints. Even if she was pretending to be Lex.

dru-zod2501
10-12-2008, 09:43 PM
everyone is saying lex but why would Lex steal the crystal from Tess - she works for him???

It just does not make sense.
exactly...

Kevin24
10-12-2008, 09:46 PM
12 pages and nobody has mentioned the guy from the first episode I forget his name but it's the one that injected Chloe with that stuff that made her do what they wanted. He disappeared and hasn't been seen since. Tess treated him bad so he could have taken it to get back at her.

Regan?

skully
10-12-2008, 09:51 PM
Brainiac would make alot of sense too.I am so hoping it's Lex.Just to see his shadow in a dark alley or a phone's call would be enough.A fair call. "X" could well be Brainiac.

thebog1
10-12-2008, 09:53 PM
I have Regan's full name in the trivia section - check under Chloe Sullivan's information.

----- Added 38 Seconds later -----

*In the trivia section under my post for the various info in Episode 1.

xrayvision
10-12-2008, 10:45 PM
12 pages and nobody has mentioned the guy from the first episode I forget his name but it's the one that injected Chloe with that stuff that made her do what they wanted. He disappeared and hasn't been seen since. Tess treated him bad so he could have taken it to get back at her.

I mentioned Regan.

thebog1
10-12-2008, 11:06 PM
It's not him anyways. He despises Tess Mercer. This is visible the way he complains about her in the start of episode 1 and how he researches her and then says he doesn't give a darn about her.

xrayvision
10-12-2008, 11:12 PM
It's not him anyways. He despises Tess Mercer. This is visible the way he complains about her in the start of episode 1 and how he researches her and then says he doesn't give a darn about her.

I know. I'm pretty sure it's Brainiac/Chloe. If not that, then I'm guessing Clark, and after that I think maybe Lionel in some bizarre way.

kalelnica
10-12-2008, 11:40 PM
my guess x is lana. got a gut feeling.

TaZeR
10-13-2008, 01:17 AM
Its me I sent that message while they where filming and I guess they thought it was good improv and decided to keep it around.

jon-el87
10-13-2008, 02:25 AM
Karen Starr, perheps?

cklookalike89
10-13-2008, 08:12 AM
I was thinking about the Red X in the email about the crystal. ANy thought of how this could possibly be connected to the potential new robin series and it could be the red x from teen titans that was actually Robin. Remember he stole stuff before as the Red X. This is probobally jsut a stretch but any possibility?

kevin_video
10-13-2008, 10:46 AM
I doubt it. My guess is it's Braniac playing with her.

Hopefulsuicide
10-13-2008, 11:34 AM
i think braniac makes the most sense... especially because it was right after chloe found out that Tess had the crystal that it went missing...

however, i was really hoping it was Lex, and will be slightly dissapointed if its not

anitram
10-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Well, those who read spoilers like me, know why "X" can't possibly be Lex.

I agree with those who think that it's Braniac making one of his first moves through Chloe.

thebog1
10-13-2008, 12:42 PM
The problem with it being Brainiac is that he isn't a mentor. He has a goal and he goes after it. He's a machine without emotion: fear, hate, anger, etc. He can lead people but only if it's to his goal. That doesn't require mentoring. If there was something specific BrainIAc wanted Tess Mercer to know or be ready for or prepare for, he would simply point her in the right direction. For an example, look at the way Brainiac handled Lex Luthor. He directly pointed Lex Luthor in the direction of Clark Kent and the Arctic. He also directly pointed Bizarro and Clark Kent towards Daxur (the Kryptonian who lived with the blue kryptonite ring). BrainIAc's M.O. is not subtlety - it is direct and full of purpose. As I referred to earlier, the only exception is when he portrayed Kara - and I reiterate: he still directly sent Lex Luthor after Clark Kent as Kara.

Saber
10-13-2008, 12:44 PM
i think braniac makes the most sense... especially because it was right after chloe found out that Tess had the crystal that it went missing...

however, i was really hoping it was Lex, and will be slightly dissapointed if its not

I agree with most of this but I think it might be the return of a second Brainiac. I didn’t read through the whole thread so I’m not sure if this was thrown out there, if it was… sorry ;) .
Maybe a second Brainiac is living in Chloe something along the lines of a Brainiac 5 like in the old comics, where that Brainiac was good. I think he had some kind of “X” in his real name (can’t remember the original name) besides being considered a “brain interactive construct”. Maybe some of Chloe’s goodness rubbed off on a new version of Brainiac and he is trying to protect Clark.

thebog1
10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
Protecting Clark Kent wouldn't mean returning the crystal - ever - to Tess Mercer.

Saber
10-13-2008, 12:50 PM
Protecting Clark Kent wouldn't mean returning the crystal - ever - to Tess Mercer.

True… but he could’ve been toying with her.
Hey, it was a shot in the dark, anything could be possible at this point. Hell, it could’ve been Jonathan Kent or Lionel from the great beyond :D .

kellen76
10-13-2008, 04:12 PM
my first thought when i saw the red x as the signature was that Red X from teen titans might be behind this. granted he is not an official DC character, he was still in a DC comics show. then from reading these threads i am also starting to think it might be Mr.X from lois and clark. when lois was under her car she said lois and clark instead of clark and me so plenty of possibilities. i def. dont think its lex.