Tonight's Clois Scenes

[eas]

OK, we know we have to have one, so I might as well start it now.

Here's the thread to discuss ALL things Clois... the good, the bad, and the sexy. ;)

Of course, please don't vote until the episode actually airs! :)

[Richs]

I think it'll be intresting to see Lois' reaction to clark and maxima kissing and take the whole clois thing forward and gain more momentum! Bring on more intimate moments between them i say! More episodes like Crimson but without the red-k haha!

Steer well clear of anything Clana now for the rest of the season unless it's only to aid the whole clois thing! Clana has been done to death and became abit stale last year i thought so it's time for something fresh and it's blatantly obvious thats the way it's going. Certain things said, certain looks, certain smiles. It's all pointing in the right direction!

I think lois should fahsion some kind of white toga thing like Maxima just to compete with her for clark...... awesomeo

[WickedJenn]

Great idea eas!

[abbaspice1]

Lois made him leave MAxima!

Even with all her superpowered sexiness, Clark runs after Lois!!!

Can we say that CLOIS is HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[papercrow27]

clark and maxima going at it in the elevator? awesome.

clark caring whatever the frak lois saw while gettin' it on in the elevator? out of place.

maybe if there were more time to develop that attraction, maybe.

but dang.

hot redhead?
in a little green thing?
in an elevator?

even a man of steel would not be able to turn that down.

[Liquid-Prince]

Jealousy for the win!

[Liquid-Prince]

How was it out of place... They have hidden love for each other.

[xrayvision]

One second she tells him to go for it, then she's yelling at him & is all pissed. :confused:

[abbaspice1]

But he did. But he did. And remember Chloe even mentioned in last week's episode that Clark and Lois was spending a LOT of time together...like an engaged couple.

[thebog1]

'cause she wanted him to go at it with her.

[abbaspice1]

She is jealous. A basic human trait.

[eas]

OK, well, I'm watching it 1/2 hour delayed, but I'm loving the Clois so far. Loved the "adreneline" talk... Clark/Lois at their finest. LOL

[Liquid-Prince]

One second she tells him to go for it, then she's yelling at him & is all pissed. :confused:

Have you ever heard of jealousy?

[xrayvision]

But she can't stand him. She thinks he's a nerd/dork.

[Liquid-Prince]

But she can't stand him. She thinks he's a nerd/dork.

You actually believe that... That is just a front she puts on because she can't admit to loving him.

[xrayvision]

But she's not supposed to like him. She's supposed to love Superman. Problem is Superman doesn't exist yet. Maybe her attention will be diverted from Clark to Superman when Clark becomes Superman.

[abbaspice1]

It depends on which comic series you read. On the restart, Lois falls for Clark.

[DontCha]

One second she tells him to go for it, then she's yelling at him & is all pissed. :confused:


its called being in love with someone..but not wanting to be in love with them;)

in other words denial, but a close intimate moment he has brings out the TRUE emotions(jealousy)..so much that she cant hide them.

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But she's not supposed to like him. She's supposed to love Superman. Problem is Superman doesn't exist yet. Maybe her attention will be diverted from Clark to Superman when Clark becomes Superman.


lois of Smallville is clrarly based off of the newer Lois from 1987 onwards the army brat and all that, and THAT lois fell in love with clark kent not superman.

[Lexgirl33]

Aw I love the Clois scenes. :)

[thehenry89]

that was freakin awsome, clark pulled away to run after lois :D

[lovinredkclark]

I LOVED THEIR SCENES TOGETHER TONIGHT!!! that episode was freckin awesome

[ClarkyBoy14]

I loved what Maxima had to say to Lois about the two, and the scene at the end was really sweet. I also liked the way Lois was acting when she saw Clark and Maxima in the elevator. The banter in the DP at the beginning was great as well.

[DontCha]

god im just dyin to see this episode..WHAAAAAW

[eas]

OMG, OMG, OMG... .

That was THE episode for Clois fans.

[skylar]

It was kind of funny to Lois react the way she did when she saw Clark
kissing someone else. I feel her pain I would be pissed off too!!!!

[DontCha]

whaaa..i wanna seee...

[Smallville6]

I LOVED them! :D

[LightSeeker]

The Clois tonight was awesome!!:D I loved all their scenes. I loved how Maxima told Lois that she could feel a deep connection between Clark and Lois.:D And Lois' reaction? Priceless.

[Aloof]

I was like... Oh dear. Lois is jealous. And she was. You could tell.

[lovinredkclark]

You actually believe that... That is just a front she puts on because she can't admit to loving him.

i second that completely. she knows she love him and was disappointed that he hasn't it out yet.

i loved the way lois started poking him. lol

[myankskent]

That was purely jealousy on Lois' part.

[individuall]

So...this is what Clois heaven looks like...I could get used to this! :D

And did you see the promo for next week!

*has fangasm and dies*

[LightSeeker]

OMG, OMG, OMG... .

That was THE episode for Clois fans.

Yes, Yes. I totally agree. I think I can hear all the Clois fans around the world squeeing right now.:D:lol:

[ClarkyBoy14]

OMG, OMG, OMG... .

That was THE episode for Clois fans.

Watching the trailer for next week, I'm thinking THAT will be the episode for Clois fans. :)

[AndiGirl]

The Clois was very cute tonight. :)
I think my favorite moment was Lois talking to clark about sex... "you know, there's another way to get the endorphins up." The way she was smirking at him...I LOVED it!!

I kind of miss moments like that....the teasing. It was very intense and kind of foreign Clois territory tonight.

The writers were trying to make it incredibly obvious that the two should get together...and I kind of hope not every episode is this intense and right to the point. Not trying to start anything at all....the Clois was awesome tonight. But it needs to be a progressional transition....and it kind of seemed tonight the writers were like "CLOIS LOVE CLOIS."

So as long as all the upcoming episodes arent quite so intense...and immediate I'm all for it.

Who knows...maybe I'm a bit bitter cause I finally realized my ship will never happen tonight. :lol:

[susangail]

Lois is afraid of the vulnerability of real love.

[LuckyLois]

Loved all the anvils, loved Clark and Lois's banter, she has the best lines. Sorry to interupt your Orgy, so funny! Loved that she stopped him from.

[eas]

Jealous Lois. 'Nuff said.

OK, I'm going to just indulge my inner Clois fangirl right now:

HE STOPPED MACKING ON MAXIMA BECAUSE OF LOIS!!!!!!!!!!

*takes deep breath*

OK, just had to get that out of my system.

[abbaspice1]

Have I already mentioned that I LOVED the Clois Moments. And Maxima knew she had met her match. The fact she tried to kill Lois proved that she is NOT Clark/Superman's soulmate.

[LightSeeker]

Watching the trailer for next week, I'm thinking THAT will be the episode for Clois fans. :)

Oh, how could I forget about next week.:o That could be even better than this week. Oh, what am I saying? It WILL be better than this week!!:D Lois and Clark pretending to be a married couple!!:eek: Someone pinch me.
*dies and goes to Clois heaven with individuall* ...ooooh I like it here.:)

[lovinredkclark]

i liked how at the end clark thanked lois for interupting him and maxima and for saving his life. now if the dumba** would just realise the yes the right woman IS standing right in front of him, then we'd all be happy.

[double L]

Seeing Clark run after Lois after she caught him was good to see. Then her reaction was great.:lol:

[eas]

The Clois was very cute tonight. :)
I think my favorite moment was Lois talking to clark about sex... "you know, there's another way to get the endorphins up." The way she was smirking at him...I LOVED it!!

I kind of miss moments like that....the teasing. It was very intense and kind of foreign Clois territory tonight.

The writers were trying to make it incredibly obvious that the two should get together...and I kind of hope not every episode is this intense and right to the point. Not trying to start anything at all....the Clois was awesome tonight. But it needs to be a progressional transition....and it kind of seemed tonight the writers were like "CLOIS LOVE CLOIS."

So as long as all the upcoming episodes arent quite so intense...and immediate I'm all for it.

Who knows...maybe I'm a bit bitter cause I finally realized my ship will never happen tonight. :lol:

Aw, Andigirl, your last line made me kind of sad. I was worried that they'd mess up the "Fever" letter. Did you feel like they handled it OK?

To be honest, I think that they've progressed the Clois pretty slowly up to this point and it means a lot that they had someone else point out the attraction between Clark & Lois, rather than have either one of them figure it out first. Lois didn't really realize how she viewed Clark until she saw him with the girl. Then, she freaks out and she doesn't even kind of have control of herself, you know? It's not something she planned and she can't even get a hold of her anger and Clark is just so baffled...

To me, I feel like it's perfectly done. Judging from next week's promo, it looks like they're going to take this newfound realization of Lois's and put her to the test... thus freaking her out even more.

But, you know, yeah - this was a very CLOIS CLOIS CLOIS episode... I won't deny that. There is no Clois fan in the world who shouldn't be grinning ear to ear after this episode... it was all about us tonight.

[Aloof]

Yeah, I loved how jealous Lois was. :)

[eas]

Seeing Clark run after Lois after she caught him was good to see. Then her reaction was great.:lol:

That fight was HOT... I loved how he stood there, his shirt unbuttoned and she got mad at him and his voice rose when he was talking to her (Clark so very rarely looses his cool) and then she starts jabbing him the chest. OMG, I loved that!!!

[lovinredkclark]

But, you know, yeah - this was a very CLOIS CLOIS CLOIS episode... I won't deny that. There is no Clois fan in the world who shouldn't be grinning ear to ear after this episode... it was all about us tonight.

your absolutely right. i think i was cheering so loud that i disturbed my kids sleeping.:rotfl:

[Alexander III]

At that moment witnessing the elevator scene, two things came in Lois's mind. First is of coz, JEALOUSY, second is Lois prolly saying to herself "oh man, I wish I was the one making out w/ the farmboy!" :lol:

[myankskent]

I have to admit that I loved the jealous reaction that Lois had to Clark and Maxima, and usually I don't like those kinds of shipper things. I think that TPTB are really handling Clois well thus far. It's not overly dramatic which is a problem that I have with how TPTB have handled romances with other couples.

[liana]

Who knows...maybe I'm a bit bitter cause I finally realized my ship will never happen tonight. :lol:

Andi, I just wanted to tell you that I think you are one of the most nicest chlarkers in ksite, and I really do feel sorry for you. :(

[LightSeeker]

That fight was HOT... I loved how he stood there, his shirt unbuttoned and she got mad at him and his voice rose when he was talking to her (Clark so very rarely looses his cool) and then she starts jabbing him the chest. OMG, I loved that!!!

That jab was great. I so did not expect her to do that. Well, after seeing him with his shirt open I guess she just had to touch him.:lol:

[oqllcksmallville]

The writers were trying to make it incredibly obvious that the two should get together...and I kind of hope not every episode is this intense and right to the point. Not trying to start anything at all....the Clois was awesome tonight. But it needs to be a progressional transition....and it kind of seemed tonight the writers were like "CLOIS LOVE CLOIS."

So as long as all the upcoming episodes arent quite so intense...and immediate I'm all for it.

I completly agree , my dear . = )
it was like they were like " CLOIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN ! "
like they dont need to make THAT obvious .
know what i mean ?
but oh yeah , I LOVE CLOIS . ;)

[lovinredkclark]

That jab was great. I so did not expect her to do that. Well, after seeing him with his shirt open I guess she just had to touch him.:lol:

and no one here would blame her. his chest is magificant.:p

[Meteror Freak]

Lois likes to think of Lana as sweet vanilla and herself as wild cherry, but instead clark's wild cherry turned out to be Maxima.:)

[Alexander III]

SHE'S ONE JEALOUS GF, Clark's prediction was right all along.

[Minela]

My favorite was when Clark was making out with Maxima and Lois catches them, he gives her this look. It's like he sees her for the first time. I thought maybe the pheromones from Maxima made him open up a side he had closed off before, and when Lois stood in front of him, he kinda realized he is into her. When she storms off and Maxima tells him to leave her, he looks at her like, "are you crazy? get out of my way, I gotta get to my Lois!" I loved it. :D

Also, the sex talk and the fight scenes were awesome. :D

[oqllcksmallville]

i second that completely. she knows she love him and was disappointed that he hasn't it out yet.

i loved the way lois started poking him. lol
hahaha , that was hilarious .
i'm like , dammnnn ; isnt he going to stop her ?
but wow .
I loved that he left Maxima , to go for her . = ) <3
That was the best part of the episode . !

[eas]

That jab was great. I so did not expect her to do that. Well, after seeing him with his shirt open I guess she just had to touch him.:lol:

And who can blame her? I wanted to jump in there and start jabbing right along with her!! LOL

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your absolutely right. i think i was cheering so loud that i disturbed my kids sleeping.:rotfl:

I was too busy gasping to scream... thank God... my family thinks I'm crazy enough as it is...

[LovelyLoisLane]

I actually liked the Clois tonight, and yes I mean the Roma-Clois, imagine that. :P

I usually enjoy the friendship-Clois.

But I didn't feel like the anvils were too heavy handed. The soulmate talk at the end had potential to be really cheesy but it wasn't.

I like how Clark was able to break away from Maxima when he saw Lois. When we were talking about this episode in the spoiler forums I thought that Maxima would spot Lois first and try to smack her out of the way and THEN Clark would react, but it actually took a lot less than that and it was nice.

I don't think Lois and Clark are in love with eachother yet, but well, I saw some feelings from both sides tonight that were a little closer to the surface.

I like how Maxima was able to sense a connection between them but was being true to her form and not letting that get in her way.

Clark actually looked a little sad that he had to reject Maxima, but more because I think he is tired of hurting (emotionally) people. Which I think fit in nicely with Lois and I like that she [Lois] didn't tell Clark what Maxima said, but in a way that made it sound like those things aren't ready for the front and center yet. Or as Lois put it 'nothing for the Front Page'

[LightSeeker]

and no one here would blame her. his chest is magificant.:p

Oh, Yes. His chest isn't the only magnificent thing about him.;)
Dang TW looks more buffed than ever. *sighs* He's beautiful:D

[Jade4813]

:lol: I loved the Clois tonight!

[eas]

Oh, how could I forget about next week.:o That could be even better than this week. Oh, what am I saying? It WILL be better than this week!!:D Lois and Clark pretending to be a married couple!!:eek: Someone pinch me.
*dies and goes to Clois heaven with individuall* ...ooooh I like it here.:)

Move over and make room for me! Yeah, between this episode and next week's, we are pretty lucky. Looks like they want to tide us over for all non-Lois eps coming up. If this is what we get as consolation, I'm more than willing to take it!! :D

[DontCha]

oh..I think she's in love.

[Aloof]

:lol: I loved the Clois tonight!

Me too! :)

[oqllcksmallville]

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I was too busy gasping to scream... thank God... my family thinks I'm crazy enough as it is...

Oh GOSH , LOOOOLLL !
YOUR TOO FUNNNNYYY = P
- but yeah , my family thinks im some sort of WEIRD FREAK too ,
when i watch this show .
but hey , CLOIS . = )

[lovinredkclark]

Oh, Yes. His chest isn't the only magnificent thing about him.;)
Dang TW looks more buffed than ever. *sighs* He's beautiful:D

my thoughts exactly LightSeeker. have you seen the promo pics for next ep. that blue t-shirt OMG.:eek:

[LovelyLoisLane]

Oh, Yes. His chest isn't the only magnificent thing about him.;)
Dang TW looks more buffed than ever. *sighs* He's beautiful:D

I think it is the dress shirts. :p

But I liked that scene too. Lois physical actions (jabbing him in the chest) were quite at odds with what she was saying.

[silverdragon]

i felt bad for her...i mean she is finally showing that she has feelings for him... and i still can't believe after all her ranting that clark still didn't figure it out...it was hilarious to watch his reaction after she stormed off...and i so loved that he ran after her...i was so sqeeling at that point...

and in the end did anyone catch that he was disappointed when she turned down the offer to move back into the farm...

[Minela]

But she can't stand him. She thinks he's a nerd/dork.

She is in denial. :p

[oqllcksmallville]

my thoughts exactly LightSeeker. have you seen the promo pics for next ep. that blue t-shirt OMG.:eek:
LOL , do you like the blue shirt ?
.. Next episode is going to be THE episode we have been waiting for ! = ) <3

[AndiGirl]

Aw, Andigirl, your last line made me kind of sad. I was worried that they'd mess up the "Fever" letter. Did you feel like they handled it OK?

To be honest, I think that they've progressed the Clois pretty slowly up to this point and it means a lot that they had someone else point out the attraction between Clark & Lois, rather than have either one of them figure it out first. Lois didn't really realize how she viewed Clark until she saw him with the girl. Then, she freaks out and she doesn't even kind of have control of herself, you know? It's not something she planned and she can't even get a hold of her anger and Clark is just so baffled...

To me, I feel like it's perfectly done. Judging from next week's promo, it looks like they're going to take this newfound realization of Lois's and put her to the test... thus freaking her out even more.

But, you know, yeah - this was a very CLOIS CLOIS CLOIS episode... I won't deny that. There is no Clois fan in the world who shouldn't be grinning ear to ear after this episode... it was all about us tonight.

Aww..I didnt mean to rain on your guys's parade! :lol: No sadness...I'm good...or working on being good! ;)

I really did love the Clois tonight, and if Chlark cant happen he couldnt have chosen a better girl then Lois. :)

It was very Clois oriented...but I agree, it was nice for someone else to address it....but the 5th time she said it...I was kind of like "ok, I get it!!!" :rotfl:

I cant wait for more moments like the sex talk...thats the Clois I know and love!!!
As for the letter...I honestly think there should have been more time devoted to it. But the fact that Chloe really seems over him makes me happy. So I was ok with it.

[lovinredkclark]

LOL , do you like the blue shirt ?
.. Next episode is going to be THE episode we have been waiting for ! = ) <3

yep have you seen my avi?

[AndiGirl]

Andi, I just wanted to tell you that I think you are one of the most nicest chlarkers in ksite, and I really do feel sorry for you. :(

Thank you Liana. :)
I'm going to be good though. A little sad at the moment...but as long as Chloe and Clark are happy in the end...then I'm happy.

[silverdragon]

HE RAN AFTER HER....HE RAN AFTER HER....ok....sorry.....still squeeling over here after watching that scene....

loved all clois moments....

did anyone sense that clark was disappointed when she turned down his offer to move back in to the farm....

[Twitch]

Wooo the Clois was off the charts tonight! I wasn't expecting it to be that heavy... loved every second of it. :D

[pleasenoclois]

Thing is, when the writers actually have to have other characters TELL the viewers that there is a connection between the two of them, you know it is being forced/is out of place. To have Chloe have to say something about Clark and Lois and then have to have Maxima go on a rant about the two screams lightswitch. It hasn't been developed well at all. I still don't see any chemistry between Clark and Lois and the interaction between the two just seems so unnatural. Just the writers trying to shove it down the viewers throats again.

[babyluthor]

I never thought of myself as a Clois fan, but I might have join the ship after seeing this episode. They really are great together. I agree if we can't have Chlark, I'll still be happy with Clois.

[Ginx]

I think that it was mentioned out loud because both Clark and Lois are stubborn and won't admit things like that - especially Lois. And they've been more like chums the last few seasons so it was needed for someone to say it out loud. It's like that secret everyone knows but no one mentions - yet everyone knows.

I don't think it felt forced. I feel like they are sliding into that role naturally and it's been there for some time. The connection I mean.....

[curiosity]

clark and maxima going at it in the elevator? awesome.

clark caring whatever the frak lois saw while gettin' it on in the elevator? out of place.

maybe if there were more time to develop that attraction, maybe.

but dang.

hot redhead?
in a little green thing?
in an elevator?

even a man of steel would not be able to turn that down.

BSG fan?

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I think that it was mentioned out loud because both Clark and Lois are stubborn and won't admit things like that - especially Lois. And they've been more like chums the last few seasons so it was needed for someone to say it out loud. It's like that secret everyone knows but no one mentions - yet everyone knows.

I don't think it felt forced. I feel like they are sliding into that role naturally and it's been there for some time. The connection I mean.....

I thought they did a great job with Lois and Clark. Lois was too funny when she got upset over Clark with Maxima in the elevator.

I loved this episode, I hope they keep it up.

[Clana4Life]

I agree with PleaseNoClois. If Lois weren't so annoying, then maybe. But she is so annoying or at least she was in this episode. I don't know how he will fall for her. I don't see any interest on his part, but if she could just stop talking for a minute - stop rambling and being such a know it all, then maybe the guy might see her in a new light, but geez. Talk about "not being Clark's type." I have a hard time believing Lois is. She's a far cry from Lana if the "Lana-type" is his type. I'd love to be sold on Clois because I'm a big Clois fan when it comes to the movies, but this Lois leaves a lot to be desired.

[eas]

^ OMG, that's awesome!! I'm so glad that you've kept an open mind to it...

I just have to say again that I loved the jabbing finger... how awesome was it when Lois went off on him? Clark was so confused... he was like, "Um.... wait... women in my life do not go off on me when they find me making out with strange hot girls. They instead cry and get hurt... you're jabbing me and yelling at me, instead. Cannot compute."

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HE RAN AFTER HER....HE RAN AFTER HER....ok....sorry.....still squeeling over here after watching that scene....

loved all clois moments....

did anyone sense that clark was disappointed when she turned down his offer to move back in to the farm....


Yeah, I know!! He RAN AFTER HER!!! It was awesome... and he was calling, "Lois! Lois!" as he was doing it!!

*happy dance*

[curiosity]

I completey loved this episode. It was too funny, Lois freaking out and jabbing at his chest.

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I really liked the endorphin discussion. It was great. All they need now, is a funny Perry White.

[Aries83]

Thing is, when the writers actually have to have other characters TELL the viewers that there is a connection between the two of them, you know it is being forced/is out of place. To have Chloe have to say something about Clark and Lois and then have to have Maxima go on a rant about the two screams lightswitch. It hasn't been developed well at all. I still don't see any chemistry between Clark and Lois and the interaction between the two just seems so unnatural. Just the writers trying to shove it down the viewers throats again.

Maxima had to tell Lois because it was coming from another woman. Another woman would know. Clark can't tell her yet.

[tippership commander]

i felt bad for her...i mean she is finally showing that she has feelings for him... and i still can't believe after all her ranting that clark still didn't figure it out...it was hilarious to watch his reaction after she stormed off...and i so loved that he ran after her...i was so sqeeling at that point...

and in the end did anyone catch that he was disappointed when she turned down the offer to move back into the farm...


SHE???? EVERY1 of us was crying foul when she turned the offer down...!!!

they give us all that, and MAXIMA, lol...then do that at the end...

well, lois knows what maxima told her,. so...

[AndiGirl]

I did love Lois getting in clarks face when she caught him though. He really doesnt know how to handle that....Lana would have cried. Chloe would have been shocked and pretended it didnt happen. But Lois...oh no....she will yell at you! :lol: But then she also has tears in her eyes...and is obviously upset. It's nice to see the softer side of Lois. :)

I dont now how Clark didnt have "duh" moment after that though....the girl was almost in tears when she caught you with someone else. She's just your work buddy...yea right.

[eas]

The whole point is that they haven't figure it out, yet. It's so obvious that people like Chloe, Jimmy, and - now - Maxima are aware of it.

What was telling here was that, for the first time, Lois came face to face with her feelings for Clark & she couldn't control herself. There's nothing light-switchy about it -- it's been a long time coming, actually. They've had 4 years of foreplay... you can't get more gradual than that.

And Clark still hasn't come to terms with it, himself. He knows she's important to him, but he's refusing to allow himself to go down that path. Plus, he's still trying to get over Lana.

[THE"Lurker"]

That jab was great. I so did not expect her to do that. Well, after seeing him with his shirt open I guess she just had to touch him.:lol:

LOL i actually thought that too ti was expecting her to jab him again too:cool:

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I did love Lois getting in clarks face when she caught him though. He really doesnt know how to handle that....Lana would have cried. Chloe would have been shocked and pretended it didnt happen. But Lois...oh no....she will yell at you! :lol: But then she also has tears in her eyes...and is obviously upset. It's nice to see the softer side of Lois. :)

I dont now how Clark didnt have "duh" moment after that though....the girl was almost in tears when she caught you with someone else. She's just your work buddy...yea right.

LOL ITA:lol::cool:

[pleasenoclois]

I agree with PleaseNoClois. If Lois weren't so annoying, then maybe. But she is so annoying or at least she was in this episode. I don't know how he will fall for her. I don't see any interest on his part, but if she could just stop talking for a minute - stop rambling and being such a know it all, then maybe the guy might see her in a new light, but geez. Talk about "not being Clark's type." I have a hard time believing Lois is. She's a far cry from Lana if the "Lana-type" is his type. I'd love to be sold on Clois because I'm a big Clois fan when it comes to the movies, but this Lois leaves a lot to be desired.

Yeah, me too. I love Clark and Lois from the movies and from 'Lois and Clark" the tv show, but I just can't stand EDLois on Smallville, which makes me hate Clois on this show. Maybe it's ED's acting, her voice, or the way Lois has been written, I'm not sure, but I just can't stand it.

[Meteror Freak]

I guess it was just a little bit lightswitch. Clark and Lois are certainly growing on each other ever since Clark starting working at the DP, but I think the jealousy thing with Lois and especially the "Wait, Lois!" thing from Clark was a little too extreme for two people who are only just starting to fall for each other. It's not like their in love with each other yet.

[eas]

I agree with PleaseNoClois. If Lois weren't so annoying, then maybe. But she is so annoying or at least she was in this episode. I don't know how he will fall for her. I don't see any interest on his part, but if she could just stop talking for a minute - stop rambling and being such a know it all, then maybe the guy might see her in a new light, but geez. Talk about "not being Clark's type." I have a hard time believing Lois is. She's a far cry from Lana if the "Lana-type" is his type. I'd love to be sold on Clois because I'm a big Clois fan when it comes to the movies, but this Lois leaves a lot to be desired.

Well, the whole point is that Lana is not his type. That's why they haven't done well together for the past 7 years... all the angst and torture they've put each other through.

And, I mean this in no snarky way, really -- but how is Lana more his type? She married his nemesis. A woman who does that isn't exactly... um... perfect for the guy. At least, not imo.

[Minela]

I agree with PleaseNoClois. If Lois weren't so annoying, then maybe. But she is so annoying or at least she was in this episode. I don't know how he will fall for her. I don't see any interest on his part, but if she could just stop talking for a minute - stop rambling and being such a know it all, then maybe the guy might see her in a new light, but geez. Talk about "not being Clark's type." I have a hard time believing Lois is. She's a far cry from Lana if the "Lana-type" is his type. I'd love to be sold on Clois because I'm a big Clois fan when it comes to the movies, but this Lois leaves a lot to be desired.

Lana is so not his type. That's why it never worked between them. She was only something he thought he wanted. One day he'll wake up and realize he needs a challenge. A wild berry, not sweet vanilla. If you say you love Clois from other media, you should know that.

[Aries83]

What was telling here was that, for the first time, Lois came face to face with her feelings for Clark & she couldn't control herself.

Exactly, and the fact that she heard it from someone else, another woman, made her realize it. So, it was pivotal that Maxima told her.

[eas]

Exactly, and the fact that she heard it from someone else, another woman, made her realize it. So, it was pivotal that Maxima told her.

Yeah, she needed to hear it from someone who HAD to be right -- and Lois thought that Maxima was some meteor freak with special powers & so she had no choice but to take Maxima's words at face value... especially since she was already so mad at Clark for making out with the girl.

Later on, she stares at Clark in his loft because I think she's trying to figure out what's wrong with her and what she sees in the guy... and she's emotional and upset by it.

Lois is not willingly falling in love with Clark - looks like she's going to go kicking and screaming all the way. I like that!!

[xrayvision]

I'm glad she turned it down. I want Clark to actually do stuff & look for stuff. A little space is a good thing. Besides, Clark has superspeed and can get to her in no time.

[Drakaun]

I am sure the four years of signs, anvils, and interactions weren't development at all, this is out of no where....How about Crimson where Clark is on Red K and his mother even says red k doesn't change him, just strips his inhibitions, so when he wanted to make out with Lois, keep Chloe in his back pocket, all the while he is in love with Lana it was because he had no attraction whatsoever to her.

[curiosity]

Yeah, me too. I love Clark and Lois from the movies and from 'Lois and Clark" the tv show, but I just can't stand EDLois on Smallville, which makes me hate Clois on this show. Maybe it's ED's acting, her voice, or the way Lois has been written, I'm not sure, but I just can't stand it.

I totally love it. I think they're doing a great job. I don't miss Lana at all, and when she comes back, I hope there isn't much of her.

And to address what someone else said, I don't think it was a bad thing or too soon that Lois was upset, because she's denying it upset her, but it was obvious she was upset. That means, no they don't have a "relationship", they're not boyfriend, girfriend, and she is starting to have the beginnings of some feelings for Clark and doesn't realize it herself. That's great, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Clark didn't want Lois to be upset, because she sort of woke him up, and he didn't mean to be doing what he was doing. Mazima put him under a spell, and he wanted out of it, so he wanted to explain to Lois that was the women killing everyone, and he didn't mean to be in the elevator doing that. They were investigating together. He didn't go after her as her boyfriend. He did it as a business relationship, friendship thing.

[Meteror Freak]

Maybe Lois is jealous because she saw a kindred spirit in Clark who was also left behind a lover and they could be single together. But then when she saw him making out with Maxima, it made her jealous that Clark could just start dating so quickly again.

[luvinChlark]

Clois was so forced in this episode... it just felt weird. They haven't built Clois up enough to be considered "so-in-love" they should just take it slow. I'm not understanding why it HAS to be rushed. I mean it's going to happen in the future, everyone knows it. But being clunked in the head over and over with Clois anvils isn't fun anymore. It's all just forced and a yea annoying.. especially this episode.

[xrayvision]

Hey she could call me if she wants a date :)

[Liquid-Prince]

Clois was so forced in this episode... it just felt weird. They haven't built Clois up enough to be considered "so-in-love" they should just take it slow. I'm not understanding why it HAS to be rushed. I mean it's going to happen in the future, everyone knows it. But being clunked in the head over and over with Clois anvils isn't fun anymore. It's all just forced and a yea annoying.. especially this episode.

People keep saying this... It's never forced... They have awesome chemistry.

[kyl-el]

I think that it was mentioned out loud because both Clark and Lois are stubborn and won't admit things like that - especially Lois. And they've been more like chums the last few seasons so it was needed for someone to say it out loud. It's like that secret everyone knows but no one mentions - yet everyone knows.

I don't think it felt forced. I feel like they are sliding into that role naturally and it's been there for some time. The connection I mean.....

I agree with you entirely. It's not as if the writers are telling us that there is a connection instead of showing us because from what I've seen in this season already, they are moving Clark and Lois closer together; you can see it in their mannerism and in in the dialogue. They only brought it up to show their denial, which only reinforces the fact that there is a connection between them.

[Karafan1]

Looks like we'll get to hear her true feelings about Clark next week..

[curiosity]

If you know anything about Lois and Clark, you know they start doing this not long after they meet, and start working together. And they start doing things like this a long time before they start dating.

[Clana4Life]

Well, I don't want to spend a lot of time on why Clana didn't work - but the biggest reason it didn't work was because of Clark's secret and because in TV-land a happy couple is a boring couple, so there always has to be conflict, angst, etc. The TPTB used up all reasons to keep them apart last season and they still were together until KK opted not to come back. I think they would have still been together in S8. So I think she was his type. I'm taking this from the horse's mouth who made her his type for 7 years (well, actually more if you count when he first met her). I did say IF the Lana-type is his type. Lois had to have someone in mind when she made that comment. She was probably alluding to herself or Lana and if she was talking about herself - I wonder where she got the notion that she was his type. He's never dated anyone like her before.

[curiosity]

Well, I don't want to spend a lot of time on why Clana didn't work - but the biggest reason it didn't work was because of Clark's secret and because in TV-land a happy couple is a boring couple, so there always has to be conflict, angst, etc. The TPTB used up all reasons to keep them apart last season and they still were together until KK opted not to come back. I think they would have still been together in S8. So I think she was his type. I'm taking this from the horse's mouth who made her his type for 7 years (well, actually more if you count when he first met her). I did say IF the Lana-type is his type. Lois had to have someone in mind when she made that comment. She was probably alluding to herself or Lana and if she was talking about herself - I wonder where she got the notion that she was his type. He's never dated anyone like her before.

Clana was painful to watch after season 5. It just made me wince. And they seemed anything but right for each other.

[rebecavaldez]

Aww i really loved Lois's character today. The look on her face when she saw Clark and Maxima together, you can tell she was sad. And Jealous!
And then when Maxima told Lois that she had feelings for Clark and Lois just stayed quiet! I loved it.
Oh and the final Clois scene. About Clark finding 'the one' and Lois not telling Clark what Maxima had told her. It was like 'grr. just tell him.' And I don't know but to me it looked like she was about to cry...it was like she was saying "I'm right here in front of you Clark. Just open your eyes and see!"

What did you think about the Clois scenes today?

[cygnusx1]

the attraction i thought was played out really well. lois is losing the battle with her feelings and clark slowly is realizing his i think. thought it was telling when lois walked in on those two and clark chases after her trying to explain what happened

[kyl-el]

I'm glad that they're moving Clark and Lois closer together without either of them really acknowledging it. As viewers we can see the progression happening, but we don't have to miss out on an action filled storyline because of a storyline that only revolves around Clois.

[WickedJenn]

Oh how much I loved that Lois brought Clark out of his Maxima trance, and the look he gave her, then running after her!

[DontCha]

my conclusions

1. Lois used to say she disliked staying at the kents, shelby(aka clark) was an annoyance to her, she was allergic..in this episode she actually wants to move in..allergy to clark is gone.

2. Lois is rather horny/sexually frustrated in this episode, the scene at the DP kinda showed that she wants to make love to clark, she hints at it 3 times!

3. bish is jealous..also still VERY sexually frustrated which made the jealousy scene even more loud and overt.

4. Clark has feelings for Lois. which is why he snapped out of the trance

5. Theres a bond between them which is also often commented on in the comics.

[eas]

WickedJenn, are you merging all the threads with the same topics tonight? If so, you're doing a great job... you're on the ball.

[BadToad]

I can definitely see that there's something to saying that it seems quick. I get that arguement.

But, aside from that, as a non-'shipper, I thought Lois' reaction to catching Clark in the elevator was very funny, and very charming. And when he ran after her, trying to close his shirt, and she was just going off nonsensically....it was very funny stuff, IMO. And I thought it worked.

What I thought was really effective though was their last scene in the loft. ED brought a lot of vulnerability to that scene, and I love when these 2 characters get the chance to have a serious conversation, sans snark and banter. Clark was sweet to thank Lois, and Lois was acting the part of a good friend. The scene had really nice chemistry between them.

I do have to admit that I'm still not entirely loving the reporter scenes, with Lois showing him the ropes. Those aren't entirely working for me.

But overall, I was feeling Clois in this episode.

[Legendary Lois & Clark]

Awesome Awesome Awesome episode!
The very fact that Clark pulled away from Maxima for Lois spoke volumes.
You could see some hurt on Lois' face when she caught Clark and Maxima.
I thought it was also awesome that Lois was willing to fight Maxima knowing that she had super strength. It's like she was saying "I'm gonna beat your butt or die trying".

Loved the moment when Maxima said that she felt a bond between Lois and Clark that was deep down inside, and that Lois may not know it yet.

[SnowBird]

I loved the elevator scene with Lois shouting CLARK! It reminds me of when Lois was kissing AC (Aquaman) and Clark came in on them and he shouted LOIS! They diffinately have this underlying attraction between them that will come to the surface in future episodes. Clark was really concerned about Lois finding Maxima and him together. Lois over reacting is a sign she has feelings for Clark. This is just getting better and better:)

[WickedJenn]

WickedJenn, are you merging all the threads with the same topics tonight? If so, you're doing a great job... you're on the ball.

No I wish it was LOL. I'm not quite that quick at it yet.

[LovelyLoisLane]

I can definitely see that there's something to saying that it seems quick. I get that arguement.

But, aside from that, as a non-'shipper, I thought Lois' reaction to catching Clark in the elevator was very funny, and very charming. And when he ran after her, trying to close his shirt, and she was just going off nonsensically....it was very funny stuff, IMO. And I thought it worked.

What I thought was really effective though was their last scene in the loft. ED brought a lot of vulnerability to that scene, and I love when these 2 characters get the chance to have a serious conversation, sans snark and banter. Clark was sweet to thank Lois, and Lois was acting the part of a good friend. The scene had really nice chemistry between them.

I do have to admit that I'm still not entirely loving the reporter scenes, with Lois showing him the ropes. Those aren't entirely working for me.

But overall, I was feeling Clois in this episode.

I actually like the reporter scenes but beyond that, I agree with you totally.

I make it clear that I'm a friendship-Clois fan but not roma-Clois, but I too was feeling the connection tonight and I didn't feel like I was being bashed with anvils either. It was done, I felt, very well and it worked.

[MrZeppo]

Well as a guy I have to say it really does depend. There are extremes to everything. You can be bossy or annoying in a playful way or in a way that is mean spirited. Obviously a big no on the mean spirited people.

I really do love a confident woman. It's really very appealing to me. Because someone able to handle themselves shows not just street smarts, but an ability to really handle themselves. And Lois, to be honest, really likes to bust people's chops. It may come off as arrogant or annoying, but I actually get that because I'm the same way. At the same time we've seen Lois be really tender and caring, the moment where she held Clark as he cried after Lana left is one of my favorite moments between Lois and Clark.

What I have to say is annoying is neediness. Not to start a Clois vs Clana debate, because really I'm not, but that's why Lana always bothered me. She always seemed to be constantly looking to the guy she was with or liked to define who she was. That's why I like the idea of her going out into the world to figure out who she really is.

[DontCha]

Lois' attraction to clark hasnt been quick, its been there since the beginning but she only realized she was in love with him during Siren/ the end Apocalypse..look at the complete and utter fear on her face the second she actually REALIZES it in Apcocalypse..since WHEN has Lois EVER looked like that when clark lets her in?

its not a lightswitch in season 8 its been Developed back in season 7.

in the episode where an AU Lois falls in love with a beautiful stranger, so it came full circle and actually began in the real world too. By the end of the episode, the real Lois, suddenly sees him in a whole new light...and of course it scares the crap out of her.

[THE"Lurker"]

I actually like the reporter scenes but beyond that, I agree with you totally.

I make it clear that I'm a friendship-Clois fan but not roma-Clois, but I too was feeling the connection tonight and I didn't feel like I was being bashed with anvils either. It was done, I felt, very well and it worked.


I can definitely see that there's something to saying that it seems quick. I get that arguement.

But, aside from that, as a non-'shipper, I thought Lois' reaction to catching Clark in the elevator was very funny, and very charming. And when he ran after her, trying to close his shirt, and she was just going off nonsensically....it was very funny stuff, IMO. And I thought it worked.

What I thought was really effective though was their last scene in the loft. ED brought a lot of vulnerability to that scene, and I love when these 2 characters get the chance to have a serious conversation, sans snark and banter. Clark was sweet to thank Lois, and Lois was acting the part of a good friend. The scene had really nice chemistry between them.

I do have to admit that I'm still not entirely loving the reporter scenes, with Lois showing him the ropes. Those aren't entirely working for me.

But overall, I was feeling Clois in this episode.

BadToad and LovelyLoisLane i must say i have always valued both of your unbiased opinions and if you 2 agree that tonights episode was done tastefully in Lois and Clark sense thats enough for me:cool:

[LightSeeker]

I think the funniest Clois scenes were at the beginning at the daily planet. Then my heart was crushed when Lois saw Clark and Maxima in the elevator. She was really showing some emotion there.(Jabbing him in the chest-Loved it:D) Then at the end it was very heart warming. They are slowly starting to realize their feelings for each other. I wanted to tell Lois don't worry you'll snag him eventually.;):)
Oh, and did anyone else notice the wink she gave him there at the end. Reminded me of Plastique. Hope there will be more moments like those.
Overall the episode was awesome. But the clips for next week are killing me.:eek:

[geminis]

I was so excited because I called the bit with Clark pulling away from Maxima right quick at the arrival of a certain Ms. Lois Lane. Yay me!

When does Lois not have an opinion? When it's something really really personal, as in, emotions. Her lecturing Clark on the reporting is just her normal shtick. She has total confidence in her ability, that's what'll win her that Pulitzer. It's the emoting that has her putting up walls, and only Clark is strong enough and perceptive enough to see right through them to break through. Tonight was a little more heavy handed with Lois' side of things, hopefully next week we'll get to see Clark's.

[LovelyLoisLane]

BadToad and LovelyLoisLane i must say i have always valued both of your unbiased opinions and if you 2 agree that tonights episode was done tastefully in Lois and Clark sense thats enough for me:cool:

Awww :o thank you.

[BadToad]

Thanks Lurker. :)

[harryandginnyfanatic]

They were okay.

[Jade4813]

They were okay.

:lol: You post this a lot. ;)

[eas]

They were okay.

Hhmm... deja vu. LOL

[pizzahead2490]

wow i thought man clark got to be total tool if he dont realize that lois has feelings for him. geez come on. calrk has to realize he has feeling 4 her also

[morrigan01]

People keep saying this... It's never forced... They have awesome chemistry.

Seriously? I'm sick of people saying Clois is "forced" or a "lightswitch" because all it says to ME is that some people haven't been paying attention to their scenes for the past four years.

First, there was always an attraction there. We saw that as far back as "Gone" in season four, and Lois saying in "Façade" that she knew Clark had been checking her out. We saw it on Clark side when Lois came down the stairs in her prom dress in "Spirit." We saw it in "Exposed." We saw it on Clark's face after he kissed Lois the first time in "Hydro" and Clark's confusion when he talked about kissing Lois in "Crimson."

We've seen Clark have a jealous hissy fit over her getting close to AC in "Aqua"

We've seen their friendship and closeness grow in episodes like "Lucy," "Oracle" and especially last season in "Siren," "Apocalypses" and "Arctic".

Everyone from Chloe seeing something between them during the dunk tank moment back "Façade," Lana's comment about them to Clark in "Gone," Jimmy trying to set them up in "Crimson" and Oliver saying something about masking their feelings in "Arrow" and so on and so forth have shown time and again that the only two people blind to the attraction between Lois and Clark are Lois and Clark. They were NEVER going to notice it on their own unless someone hit one of them over the head to finally open their eyes to it.

And that's what the Maxima confrontation finally did to Lois. Literally. Maxima hit Lois over the head with Lois' own car to make her finally open her eyes about her attraction to Clark.

So again I say, if you think this is forced and coming out of nowhere, then you've not been paying attention to Clark and Lois' interaction for the past four seasons. Because tonight? Finally, finally one of them stop wearing blinders about it that have been there at least since "Gone". Which was the second episode of season four.

If that's not a long build up, I don't know what is.

[Iluvgreen]

I loved it. and when she winked at him at the end. my heart was pounding. the adrenin talk was hilarious!!!!!!!!! i almost cried, i was laughing so hard. I loved how clark followed her, and she was muttering to herself when she got in her car. t was great.

[imafan411]

Seriously? I'm sick of people saying Clois is "forced" or a "lightswitch" because all it says to ME is that some people haven't been paying attention to their scenes for the past four years.

First, there was always an attraction there. We saw that as far back as "Gone" in season four, and Lois saying in "Façade" that she knew Clark had been checking her out. We saw it on Clark side when Lois came down the stairs in her prom dress in "Spirit." We saw it in "Exposed." We saw it on Clark's face after he kissed Lois the first time in "Hydro" and Clark's confusing when he talked about kissing Lois in "Crimson."

We've seen Clark have a jealous hissy fit over her getting close to AC in "Aqua"

We've seen their friendship and closeness grow in episodes like "Lucy," "Oracle" and especially last season in "Siren," "Apocalypses" and "Arctic".

Everyone from Chloe seeing something between them during the dunk tank moment back "Façade," Lana's comment about them to Clark in "Gone," Jimmy trying to set them up in "Crimson" and Oliver saying something about making their feelings in "Arrow" and so on and so forth have shown time and again that the only two people blind to the attraction between Lois and Clark are Lois and Clark. They were NEVER going to notice it on their own unless someone hit one of them over the head to finally open their eyes to it.

And that's what the Maxima confrontation finally did to Lois. Literally. Maxima hit Lois over the head with Lois' own car to make her finally open her eyes about her attraction to Clark.

So again I say, if you think this is forced and coming out of nowhere, then you've not been paying attention to Clark and Lois' interaction for the past four seasons. Because tonight? Finally, finally one of them stop wearing blinders about it that have been there at least since "Gone". Which was the second episode of season four.

If that's not a long build up, I don't know what is.

You pretty much summed it up perfectly! ;)


Everything you said I agree with 100%

[geminis]

^^Ditto.

And Lois is still protesting. Because deep down she knows Maxima is right but she's not ready to admit it.

And Clark is starting to have some serious thoughts about his soulmate. He's starting to get clued into the fact that she isn't Lana; he had to be told directly about Chloe's feelings but they're done too, and then, with Maxima, he felt the physical attraction but didn't feel a true, deep connection. And now he's starting to wonder. And because he'll be spending a lot of quality time with Lois, he won't be left to wonder for too much longer.

[LovelyLoisLane]

:lol: You post this a lot. ;)


I was thinking the same thing, but then figured it was just one of those weird moments of deja vu.

[morrigan01]

^^Ditto.

And Lois is still protesting. Because deep down she knows Maxima is right but she's not ready to admit it.

Exactly. All this episode did was finally, finally, after four seasons, was to rip the blinders off, but Lois is STILL not ready to admit to anything yet. But now she's just actively ignoring it, not ignoring it because she's blind.

And I'm still giggling over the fact that it took her landing on her head in her car just to get the blinders off finally. Because it's just so . . . Lois. :) :lol:

[amberdawn]

And because he'll be spending a lot of quality time with Lois, he won't be left to wonder for too much longer.

Well, I hope you're right, but the recent "Bulletproof" spoilers have me doubting.

[Québec]

Seriously? I'm sick of people saying Clois is "forced" or a "lightswitch" because all it says to ME is that some people haven't been paying attention to their scenes for the past four years.

First, there was always an attraction there. We saw that as far back as "Gone" in season four, and Lois saying in "Façade" that she knew Clark had been checking her out. We saw it on Clark side when Lois came down the stairs in her prom dress in "Spirit." We saw it in "Exposed." We saw it on Clark's face after he kissed Lois the first time in "Hydro" and Clark's confusion when he talked about kissing Lois in "Crimson."

We've seen Clark have a jealous hissy fit over her getting close to AC in "Aqua"

We've seen their friendship and closeness grow in episodes like "Lucy," "Oracle" and especially last season in "Siren," "Apocalypses" and "Arctic".

Everyone from Chloe seeing something between them during the dunk tank moment back "Façade," Lana's comment about them to Clark in "Gone," Jimmy trying to set them up in "Crimson" and Oliver saying something about masking their feelings in "Arrow" and so on and so forth have shown time and again that the only two people blind to the attraction between Lois and Clark are Lois and Clark. They were NEVER going to notice it on their own unless someone hit one of them over the head to finally open their eyes to it.

And that's what the Maxima confrontation finally did to Lois. Literally. Maxima hit Lois over the head with Lois' own car to make her finally open her eyes about her attraction to Clark.

So again I say, if you think this is forced and coming out of nowhere, then you've not been paying attention to Clark and Lois' interaction for the past four seasons. Because tonight? Finally, finally one of them stop wearing blinders about it that have been there at least since "Gone". Which was the second episode of season four.

If that's not a long build up, I don't know what is.

Exactly! I totally agree with you.

[LoisL]

I feel weirdly dispassionate about S8 Clois. I've been a hardcore Clois shipper as long as I've been a SV fan (in addition to being all about the mythos) but the very deliberately interrupted and ignored/pushed aside non-development of Clois in the past has frustrated me so much that now I totally understand the "it feels forced" argument. Because even though I think Tomerica had amazing, spectacular, fun, winning, immediate, spontaneous, very natural chemistry from the get-go... for 4 years it's been shrugged off as a periodic flash of destiny, a little anvil, while Clana and Chlark continued to be mined on a weekly basis for more crucial relationships.

Ok, that sounds bitter, whereas I just feel jaded. IMO after S7's almost entire lack of Clois (the only genuine clois i count is "siren"), a concentrated Lois arc transitioning into more screentime -thus growing Clois (not unlike S6)- was required. because frankly, i was getting resigned to the "lois shows up out of nowhere to have 2 seconds of flippant dialog w/clark, never to be seen again by him for 8 episodes" relationship.

Anyway, my point is that I thought the scenes were ok but not nearly as natural as their old stuff (S4). My favorite Clois moment was actually when Lois was teasing him in the DP because yeah that's the infuriating, amusing, irresistable Lois I remember.

I'm glad the show is making more use of Lois (and attempting more Clois) but I want them to develop what was already great about SVLois and SVClois rather than try to change Lois into a Lana or Chloe in order to make her fit the SVLove Interest role. Please no out-of-character Lois pining-over-Clark angst! The lack is what made her so refreshing and perfect for Clark in the first place, IMO. Also, I couldn't help being a little disturbed by Lois' costume/hairdo in the end barn scene. I felt like I was watching a replacement Lana Lang climbing those steps for the ritualistic SV barn roma angst moment. It wasn't as bad but it was a little scary.

[harryandginnyfanatic]

:lol: You post this a lot. ;)

I have trouble expressing myself. :o

[Jade4813]

I have trouble expressing myself. :o

I think you're kidding yourself, as I have never found this to be true! Don't kid a kidder, sweetie. :)

[ginnyfan]

I'm on a Clois high. Mainly because of Lois' rant and finger poking and how scared Clark looked. LOL! I also loved the anvils and as others have said they really weren't as clunky has they have been in the past.

Also, great point BadToad about the loft scene being serious and without banter and teasing. That scene probably shows the most growth between Lois and Clark of all the scenes in this episode.

[4Clana]

fun and sweet tonight :D my favorite part was Lois poking Clark :D

[LCforever]

I feel weirdly dispassionate about S8 Clois. I've been a hardcore Clois shipper as long as I've been a SV fan (in addition to being all about the mythos) but the very deliberately interrupted and ignored/pushed aside non-development of Clois in the past has frustrated me so much that now I totally understand the "it feels forced" argument. Because even though I think Tomerica had amazing, spectacular, fun, winning, immediate, spontaneous, very natural chemistry from the get-go... for 4 years it's been shrugged off as a periodic flash of destiny, a little anvil, while Clana and Chlark continued to be mined on a weekly basis for more crucial relationships.

Ok, that sounds bitter, whereas I just feel jaded. IMO after S7's almost entire lack of Clois (the only genuine clois i count is "siren"), a concentrated Lois arc transitioning into more screentime -thus growing Clois (not unlike S6)- was required. because frankly, i was getting resigned to the "lois shows up out of nowhere to have 2 seconds of flippant dialog w/clark, never to be seen again by him for 8 episodes" relationship.

Anyway, my point is that I thought the scenes were ok but not nearly as natural as their old stuff (S4). My favorite Clois moment was actually when Lois was teasing him in the DP because yeah that's the infuriating, amusing, irresistable Lois I remember.

I'm glad the show is making more use of Lois (and attempting more Clois) but I want them to develop what was already great about SVLois and SVClois rather than try to change Lois into a Lana or Chloe in order to make her fit the SVLove Interest role. Please no out-of-character Lois pining-over-Clark angst! The lack is what made her so refreshing and perfect for Clark in the first place, IMO. Also, I couldn't help being a little disturbed by Lois' costume/hairdo in the end barn scene. I felt like I was watching a replacement Lana Lang climbing those steps for the ritualistic SV barn roma angst moment. It wasn't as bad but it was a little scary.

Haha, I had the same thought about Lois climbing up the stairs in Instinct but hey, it worked. Remember, Lois used to visit him up in the barn too (Lucy, etc). Honestly I think the writers have really tried hard to build up CLOIS (you can tell by their promos) but I think they've been doing a good job at it.

It just SEEMS like there is way more stuff about Lois now because the Lex and Lana story arcs are pretty much down to a minimum. They HAVE to center around the characters that they have which are Clark, Lois, Chloe, Jimmy and the rest (GA, Davis).

It ISN'T A LIGHTSWITCH! You know why? Cuz it's destiny. Just because people are trying to build on a lengend doesn't mean that things are totally out of place. Let them do their job. They'be been doing a pretty good job so far in Season 8. Let's wait and see if we see the whiny teenager Clark character appear again before we storm down the gates.

[AgentChaos]

Clois was never my favorite ship, but I've never really had a problem with it before. Tonight, however, I felt it was a little forced.

[jasmin28]

hmmmm all I can say is that i liked it when Clark ran after Lois. I'm looking forward to "committed" where we'll definitely be getting some answers.

[ColdPlay3r]

^^ yeh hard


crazy scenes :)

[zorasuperman]

for some reason i dont think clark will know that he likes lois
for some reason,despite how good looking he is, he is a bit daft.
look at the chloe relationship for a prime example. i mean even ryan said that chloe had feelings for him and did he realize? nooo
something will have to happen for these two to realize; i mean dont get me wrong they do have feelings it will just take a bit of a nudge for these two; in the words of chloe
"less brawn, more brain"

[Kal-ed]

One second she tells him to go for it, then she's yelling at him & is all pissed. :confused:

I think her jelousy was as much as a surprise to her as it was to us and she didnt know how to react.

[Jaderoyale]

I think her jelousy was as much as a surprise to her as it was to us and she didnt know how to react.

I totally agree.
I think when she gave him the "advice" to move on, she didn't expect to catch him at it in the elevator.
The shock and hurt on her expression was a shock personally, i guessed she'd be bothered, but not that much. But hey, i'm not complaining :p

[superpal1]

I like the Lois and Clark stuff. It works for me.

[eas]

Seriously? I'm sick of people saying Clois is "forced" or a "lightswitch" because all it says to ME is that some people haven't been paying attention to their scenes for the past four years.

First, there was always an attraction there. We saw that as far back as "Gone" in season four, and Lois saying in "Façade" that she knew Clark had been checking her out. We saw it on Clark side when Lois came down the stairs in her prom dress in "Spirit." We saw it in "Exposed." We saw it on Clark's face after he kissed Lois the first time in "Hydro" and Clark's confusion when he talked about kissing Lois in "Crimson."

We've seen Clark have a jealous hissy fit over her getting close to AC in "Aqua"

We've seen their friendship and closeness grow in episodes like "Lucy," "Oracle" and especially last season in "Siren," "Apocalypses" and "Arctic".

Everyone from Chloe seeing something between them during the dunk tank moment back "Façade," Lana's comment about them to Clark in "Gone," Jimmy trying to set them up in "Crimson" and Oliver saying something about masking their feelings in "Arrow" and so on and so forth have shown time and again that the only two people blind to the attraction between Lois and Clark are Lois and Clark. They were NEVER going to notice it on their own unless someone hit one of them over the head to finally open their eyes to it.

And that's what the Maxima confrontation finally did to Lois. Literally. Maxima hit Lois over the head with Lois' own car to make her finally open her eyes about her attraction to Clark.

So again I say, if you think this is forced and coming out of nowhere, then you've not been paying attention to Clark and Lois' interaction for the past four seasons. Because tonight? Finally, finally one of them stop wearing blinders about it that have been there at least since "Gone". Which was the second episode of season four.

If that's not a long build up, I don't know what is.

OMG, Thank you!! You wrote everything I've been thinking.... I cannot understand why/how people can possibly think that Clois is a lightswitch, when they've been in foreplay mode for 4 years!!

[Kal-ed]

Clois was never my favorite ship, but I've never really had a problem with it before. Tonight, however, I felt it was a little forced.

I undertand you feeling like that but I think there's something you might like to consider, real life debates aside in the Superman universe and as its been stablished, in Smallville as well, soulmates do exist and that two people are destined to be together and I think that was what the writters were going for, sort of like the fact that they cant help coming together and having a strong conection.

Belive me Im doing my share in convincing my self of this, dont realy love the fact that just last episode Lois was doubting her break up with Ollie, or Clark still mourning about Lana in the begining of this episode. But that's the thing about soulmates, it doesnt necesarily make sense since minute one but there are greater forces in the universe that know they actually do make sense.

[eas]

I think her jelousy was as much as a surprise to her as it was to us and she didnt know how to react.

Yeah, that's how I saw it, too. Because not only did she go off on him, she continues to grumble (under her breath) even when they're not together, going, "Seriously, does he think I CARE about who he sucks face with....". She's clearly in denial and freaked out & doesn't even know why.

Then, when Maxima tells her there is something there, she insists that there, in fact, ISN'T anything there.

I think they played it perfectly... what would have been out of line would have been if Lois got mad at Maxima and told Maxima to lay off of Clark or something. But to have Lois get into with Clark and then have to be told by Maxima what that means is the perfect way to get Lois to come face-to-face with her feelings.

[geminis]

Well, I hope you're right, but the recent "Bulletproof" spoilers have me doubting.

Don't let any of that bother you, just think about after... I find it helps!:)

I agree too eas. Lois' reaction was perfectly played. But I still want to see more from Clark than just subconsciously following Lois. He's actually been more subtle; but that's possibly also because Lois is so over the top in deny, deny, deny.

Clark's brief moment with Lana's necklace was just that: brief. It felt more regretful than angst ridden and that bodes well for the end of Clana. He's not bouncing balls in the loft anymore, he's watching Lana end their relationship over and over.

[Guidron]

Well put Eas. I thought the same thing. She was totally freaked out by an unexpected feeling of jealousy when she saw Clark with Maxima.

From the preview after the episode, it seems like it will get delved into even deeper next week. I'm really looking forward to that!

Geminis, I agree. I thought this episode was pretty directed at getting Clark to show he's finally getting over Lana with all of the scenes surrounding the 'First Love's' and Soul mates and moving on.

[AndiGirl]

OMG, Thank you!! You wrote everything I've been thinking.... I cannot understand why/how people can possibly think that Clois is a lightswitch, when they've been in foreplay mode for 4 years!!

I think the only reason people are seeing Clois as a lightswitch...is because we havent really seen this side of Lois before. Which, I agree...I dont think their feelings were immediately "flicked" on...but they were never this intense.

Lois has always been sarcastic...and we've never seen the lingering looks...or the soft expressions like we've seen this year. Who knows, they could have always been there...but the cameras are definitely catching them now. So for some people it's like "where did that come from?" I've always known they were attracted to eachother...but the big "L" word is being thrown out there now.

So no...I dont think Clois is a lightswitch at all....it has been progressive. The only complaint I could possibly have is...the writers may need to slow it down just a tad. I understand...they have a lot of lost time to make up for....but thats frankly their own faults. So trying to get them to fall madly inlove...so quickly, isnt that believable for me. I expected the sparks and everything...but this episode kind of shocked me. It was very "Clois are in love.." and I just dont think they are there yet...and if they are, its much too fast.

I dont know if that made any sense??? :\ :lol:. Basically I can jump on the band wagon..but going from 3 years of showing Clois joking around and occasionally having intense looks....to every episode having a Clois defining moment....I'm having a hard time believing it. But then...I can also understand it, because they know they messed up by not pushing it all along...so they are trying to make up for lost time.

Basically...dont over do it, and I'm on board. :)

[Jade4813]

I suspect they're going for Clois full throttle right now because they want it to be at a particular place when Lana comes back. Personally, I think Clark will be faced with a choice between Lana and Lois during Lana's and choose Lois - but because TPTB were in such a stalling mode for so long, they need to speed things up a bit to get Clark and Lois both to a place where it makes sense for Clark to really be faced with that choice. (Not that I haven't seen them grow closer over the seasons, but they were so blind to it - and still are - that they had to progress things to where Clark SEES the choice there. If that makes sense.)

After Lana comes to SV, I think they'll be slowing down the Clois train a bit because Lois is going to be in full-defection mode.

Just my prediction. :)

[cma_454]

I think they’re doing a good job in finally moving both Clark (and Lois and Clark) towards their destinies.

Still, for a small group of viewers, Clois (not matter how it's written or acted) will always be bad. There is nothing the writers, producers or actors can do to change this.

For some, the fact that Clark ends up with Lois (instead of Chloe or Lana) will always be unacceptable. They will never be satisfied with the way Lois is written or acted on Smallville for this very reason. That’s why the initial complaints were usually that ED wasn’t enough like the iconic Lois, and now they seem to be that she’s too much like iconic Lois.

But that’s O.K., everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[Gbah]

cma_454

NICELY PUT =)

[LoveHurts38]

Loved it!!! and already can't wait for next week!!!

[geminis]

Loved it!!! and already can't wait for next week!!!

Tell me about it! Is it Thursday yet?!

[eas]

I suspect they're going for Clois full throttle right now because they want it to be at a particular place when Lana comes back. Personally, I think Clark will be faced with a choice between Lana and Lois during Lana's and choose Lois - but because TPTB were in such a stalling mode for so long, they need to speed things up a bit to get Clark and Lois both to a place where it makes sense for Clark to really be faced with that choice. (Not that I haven't seen them grow closer over the seasons, but they were so blind to it - and still are - that they had to progress things to where Clark SEES the choice there. If that makes sense.)

After Lana comes to SV, I think they'll be slowing down the Clois train a bit because Lois is going to be in full-defection mode.

Just my prediction. :)

I agree 100%... I think this is all setting it up so that when Lana comes back for her 5 episodes, we're going to see exactly WHY and HOW Clark feels that Lois is the better choice for him. It's not going to be that he chose Lois because Lana walked out of his life. It's going to be that even with Lana right there, he still wants Lois.

This season, they've gone through with ending Lollie and now roma Chlark. Next on the list is Clana. It just stands to reason that Clana is going to need a little bit more time to end than either Lollie or Chlark, because it was THE ship of the series. (It was the ship that killed a thousand ships.)

[LCforever]

I've always known they were attracted to eachother...but the big "L" word is being thrown out there now.
I expected the sparks and everything...but this episode kind of shocked me. It was very "Clois are in love.." and I just dont think they are there yet...and if they are, its much too fast.
Basically...dont over do it, and I'm on board. :)


ITA Andi. It does seem a little fast but then again, it has to be. What if Season 8 is it? (I doubt it though) We only have 22 episodes to establish the iconic canon of Superman and that is A LOT to do in one season! ALMILES didn't really make it easy on PS3.

By episodes 10-14 (Lana episodes) I think Clark needs to realize his feelings for Lois. By episodes 15-20 they should start realizing their loves for each other and by then they can do a 2 episode finale of finishing it off ..if Season 8 is the the last one.

Just my thoughts.

[susangail]

I agree 100%... I think this is all setting it up so that when Lana comes back for her 5 episodes, we're going to see exactly WHY and HOW Clark feels that Lois is the better choice for him. It's not going to be that he chose Lois because Lana walked out of his life. It's going to be that even with Lana right there, he still wants Lois.

This season, they've gone through with ending Lollie and now roma Chlark. Next on the list is Clana. It just stands to reason that Clana is going to need a little bit more time to end than either Lollie or Chlark, because it was THE ship of the series. (It was the ship that killed a thousand ships.)

Great insight on Clark's thought process when Lana returns... I hope PS3 are thinking along those same lines. It would be terrific to watch unfold.

[eas]

I think the only reason people are seeing Clois as a lightswitch...is because we havent really seen this side of Lois before. Which, I agree...I dont think their feelings were immediately "flicked" on...but they were never this intense.

Lois has always been sarcastic...and we've never seen the lingering looks...or the soft expressions like we've seen this year. Who knows, they could have always been there...but the cameras are definitely catching them now. So for some people it's like "where did that come from?" I've always known they were attracted to eachother...but the big "L" word is being thrown out there now.

So no...I dont think Clois is a lightswitch at all....it has been progressive. The only complaint I could possibly have is...the writers may need to slow it down just a tad. I understand...they have a lot of lost time to make up for....but thats frankly their own faults. So trying to get them to fall madly inlove...so quickly, isnt that believable for me. I expected the sparks and everything...but this episode kind of shocked me. It was very "Clois are in love.." and I just dont think they are there yet...and if they are, its much too fast.

I dont know if that made any sense??? :\ :lol:. Basically I can jump on the band wagon..but going from 3 years of showing Clois joking around and occasionally having intense looks....to every episode having a Clois defining moment....I'm having a hard time believing it. But then...I can also understand it, because they know they messed up by not pushing it all along...so they are trying to make up for lost time.

Basically...dont over do it, and I'm on board. :)

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess, though, I've always felt that the lingering looks were there. From the beginning. Lois flirts with Clark a LOT when the first meet in S4. In S5, she gives him that lingering look in "Exposed" at the end (the crack about the Elmer Fudd nightlight and his response to call her "sailor"); the whole convo they had when she helped with his graduation suit... the way they talked in "Lucy".... the way he reacted to A.C.... the looks the exchanged in "Crimson" when she made him the mixed tape.... the way she reacted to "Hydro" kiss even though she didn't know it was him.... the way he reacted to her green teddy when he barged in one day....

I've always said that I'm not a Cloiser just because it's Iconic... I'm an SVCloiser because I see something between SVLois and SVClark that I don't see them have with any other characters on the show. I think they get under each other's skin and they're strangely drawn to each other. I think they have an intense heat and attraction to each other that they constantly keep in check.

But, yes, it's definitely been amped up this year. Why? I think it's because Lana's gone. I think that this is the first time that Clark has 100% closed the door on Lana and that's why Lois is indulging herself when it comes Clark. She's crossing lines with him and not even fully aware of it (because it's almost like she can't help it) and I think that he's looking at her differently because he's now spending so much more time with her than he ever did before.... she always there and he now has to come to grips with the underlying attraction that is between them. (Which is per show canon, because he acknowledged that attraction openly in "Crimson".)

What we see now is the next natural progression of their relationship and I think it HAS been slow. This was the 4th episode of the season, and they used the first 3 to describe the shift in Clark/Lois's relationship to each other. Also, this was building on what happened last year from "Bizarro" to "Arctic", so it's not even something new to just THIS season. And, honestly, I can't imagine that "Instinct" is going to lead to them making out next episode and then getting married in episode 6. Chances are quite high that this is the just the beginning... after this, we still need Lois to openly acknowledge her feelings for Clark (not just in denial mode); Clark has to realize and openly acknowledge his feelings for Lois; they have to tell each other; and they need to start dating. Chances are that this whole process will take the rest of the season and we may never even get to the end point - meaning the dating. The series could actually end with them never acknowledging to each other how they feel & they just leave for the viewer to fill the blanks with the general template of the Superman mythos.

To me, it's quite premature to say that it's too soon or too much, because nothing has actually happened, yet. They're a long way from getting married. And, on the flip side, if Clark and Lois kept working together like they have for the past 3 episodes and Lois had zero feelings of jealousy in seeing her future husband macking on the sexy chick, then everyone would cry foul. Everyone would say that they're not in love and it'll never be realistic that they will be in love because Lois could care less.... if Clark went around acting like he was more in love with Chloe (in S8) than Lois, then folks would (rightfully so) think that something was seriously wrong because the man is more in love with his future wife's cousin than his future wife!

My point is... and I do have one... is that the end game does matter. And, right now, they are actually explaining to you (in what I consider to be a pretty cool manner) how Clark and Lois reach the end point of being madly in love and married. The dots connect for me and I honestly think that there was no other way for them to do it than the way they have.

[morrigan01]

Can I just say - I take a little issue with the idea that the "L" word is being thrown around regarding Clois. The only people so far using the word "love" with regards to Lois and Clark are the fans. No one on screen has said that Lois and Clark love each other. All Maxima herself said is that Clark was attracted to Lois, Lois was attracted to Clark and that their was a bond and connection between them. And that's it.

No one on screen has spoken the word "love" yet.

And yes, I saw the preview for next week. And all I'll say about that is that there is a difference between loving someone and being IN love with someone, and I'll leave it at that for now.

[svtwamedfan05]

Loved all the Clois scenes as usual

[geminis]

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess, though, I've always felt that the lingering looks were there. From the beginning. Lois flirts with Clark a LOT when the first meet in S4. In S5, she gives him that lingering look in "Exposed" at the end (the crack about the Elmer Fudd nightlight and his response to call her "sailor"); the whole convo they had when she helped with his graduation suit... the way they talked in "Lucy".... the way he reacted to A.C.... the looks the exchanged in "Crimson" when she made him the mixed tape.... the way she reacted to "Hydro" kiss even though she didn't know it was him.... the way he reacted to her green teddy when he barged in one day....

I've always said that I'm not a Cloiser just because it's Iconic... I'm an SVCloiser because I see something between SVLois and SVClark that I don't see them have with any other characters on the show. I think they get under each other's skin and they're strangely drawn to each other. I think they have an intense heat and attraction to each other that they constantly keep in check.

But, yes, it's definitely been amped up this year. Why? I think it's because Lana's gone. I think that this is the first time that Clark has 100% closed the door on Lana and that's why Lois is indulging herself when it comes Clark. She's crossing lines with him and not even fully aware of it (because it's almost like she can't help it) and I think that he's looking at her differently because he's now spending so much more time with her than he ever did before.... she always there and he now has to come to grips with the underlying attraction that is between them. (Which is per show canon, because he acknowledged that attraction openly in "Crimson".)

What we see now is the next natural progression of their relationship and I think it HAS been slow. This was the 4th episode of the season, and they used the first 3 to describe the shift in Clark/Lois's relationship to each other. Also, this was building on what happened last year from "Bizarro" to "Arctic", so it's not even something new to just THIS season. And, honestly, I can't imagine that "Instinct" is going to lead to them making out next episode and then getting married in episode 6. Chances are quite high that this is the just the beginning... after this, we still need Lois to openly acknowledge her feelings for Clark (not just in denial mode); Clark has to realize and openly acknowledge his feelings for Lois; they have to tell each other; and they need to start dating. Chances are that this whole process will take the rest of the season and we may never even get to the end point - meaning the dating. The series could actually end with them never acknowledging to each other how they feel & they just leave for the viewer to fill the blanks with the general template of the Superman mythos.

To me, it's quite premature to say that it's too soon or too much, because nothing has actually happened, yet. They're a long way from getting married. And, on the flip side, if Clark and Lois kept working together like they have for the past 3 episodes and Lois had zero feelings of jealousy in seeing her future husband macking on the sexy chick, then everyone would cry foul. Everyone would say that they're not in love and it'll never be realistic that they will be in love because Lois could care less.... if Clark went around acting like he was more in love with Chloe (in S8) than Lois, then folks would (rightfully so) think that something was seriously wrong because the man is more in love with his future wife's cousin than his future wife!

My point is... and I do have one... is that the end game does matter. And, right now, they are actually explaining to you (in what I consider to be a pretty cool manner) how Clark and Lois reach the end point of being madly in love and married. The dots connect for me and I honestly think that there was no other way for them to do it than the way they have.

Agree with everything and beautifully said as always, but in particular I like the bolded parts. Also, don't forget that both have had dressed up and 'nekkid' scenes and despite both being in denial up to now, they have both shown awareness of the attractiveness of the other. Once Clark gets a chance to have a dialogue with Lana, since she didn't give him one when she decided to end their relationship, he'll be free to start chasing Lois.

[OneShotClois]

One second she tells him to go for it, then she's yelling at him & is all pissed. :confused:

I don't think she meant the part about 'going at it' and of course she got jealous.

[oqllcksmallville]

yep have you seen my avi?

LOL , yeah . :D
Love it . <3

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Oh how much I loved that Lois brought Clark out of his Maxima trance, and the look he gave her, then running after her!
thank you , = )
I COMPLETELY AGREE . ( y )
that look he gave her , with that half smile -- CCUUTTEE !
And the way he chased after ,
and she was like " WHAAAT ?! "
gave me heebie-jeebies . = P
LOL , im such a nerd , with my " Heebie Jeebie's " = P

[rebecavaldez]

when did she hint she wanted to make love to clark....and how did i miss that....3 timeS

[Jade4813]

The sexual innuendo, baby! Endorphins and repetitive motion!

[liana]

^ I don't think that Lois was hinting she wanted to have sex with Clark with those words. She was just trying to make him uncomfortable because she knows that Clark had a very conservative upbringing. In fact, it was very clear by way she was smiling at him that she was having too much fun at his expense. Of course, her own teasing came to bite her, when she was forced to confront the fact that she is, in fact, attracted to him. It was sweet irony in many levels, because now she is conscious of that attraction, and Clark isn't. He has the power to make her feel uncomfortable now, even if he doesn't know it yet.

[minerva73]

Very interested. As much of a Clois fan as I am, I want to say that I loved it, but I can't... :(

[DontCha]

liana, i saw it as a bit of both TBH

she basically says to him before the sexual innuendo that he should have a taste of someone like her.

He doesnt quite get the message and so she then tries to spell it out.

[Jade4813]

^ I don't think that Lois was hinting she wanted to have sex with Clark with those words. She was just trying to make him uncomfortable because she knows that Clark had a very conservative upbringing. In fact, it was very clear by way she was smiling at him that she was having too much fun at his expense. Of course, her own teasing came to bite her, when she was forced to confront the fact that she is, in fact, attracted to him. It was sweet irony in many levels, because now she is conscious of that attraction, and Clark isn't. He has the power to make her feel uncomfortable now, even if he doesn't know it yet.

I actually agree with you. I was just making a joke. :p

I think for Lois to indicate to Clark that she wants to have sex with him, she would have to realize that she wants to have sex with him. And I think it's pretty darn clear that she is nowhere near that point.

That said, her grin when she was teasing him? Adorable!

[DontCha]

to put it in sections, this is what happens in that scene IMO


1. Lois hints that she wants to move in with clark
Clark fails to get the hint

2. Lois hints that he should give up on Vanilla(lana) and taste wild cherry (Her) and to bring up mise en scene she's "coincidently" wearing a cherry coloured top.
Clark fails to see the hint,

3. She then practically spells it out that she would like to have sex but I also think she was messing around too, haviing fun with the fact that he kept missing her advances.
Again clark doesnt get it

[liana]

to put it in sections, this is what happens in that scene IMO


1. Lois hints that she wants to move in with clark
Clark fails to get the hint

2. Lois hints that he should give up on Vanilla(lana) and taste wild cherry (Her) and to bring up mise en scene she's "coincidently" wearing a cherry coloured top.
Clark fails to see the hint,

3. She then practically spells it out that she would like to have sex but I also think she was messing around too, haviing fun with the fact that he kept missing her advances.
Again clark doesnt get it

I disagree. If Lois was that conscious of her attraction as you seem to believe, and was hinting to Clark that he should go for her, why was she so surprised when Maxima told her that they were attracted to each other? She was in shock, clearly, and in complete denial.

Also, if she was spelling out that she wanted to live with him, why would she refuse him when he invited her? Lois wasn't conscious of her feelings until Maxima forced her to face them. That was the whole point of the scene between them. Now that Lois faced her feelins, she doesn't have the luxury of the denial any more, and she doesn't really know what to do.

The very fact that she didn't tell Clark about her talk to Maxima was very telling. Now that she knows, she will do whatever she can to keep Clark from finding out, as this scene pretty much showed us.

[clarkbunny]

LOL I loved Lois' reaction to Maxima and Clark's love clinch. She was mad as hell but confused about why she reacted that way. Blatently trying to convince herself that it WASN'T because she was jealous when in fact she was :lol:

I don't think Lois is in love with Clark per se but she does have feelings for him and she is attracted to him but she doesn't want to admit to having those feelings.

I was a little disappointed Lois didn't take Clark up on his offer, it would have been fun to have them living together again. Maybe Lois turned him down 'cos she wanted to put some distance between them and keep her feelings in check.

[alejandrita439]

i love a lot this episode

aww.. lois catching clark and maxima in the elevator :)

[minerva73]

I realize why I didn't love the Clois scenes now... It seemed all too much like Chlark throughout the episode. It didn't have that Cloisy feel to it IMO. :(

The first Clois scene at the Daily Planet seemed like it was a parallel or a mirror to the Chlark scene in Spirit in the Torch office. Lois pushing Clark to look at other options and not ignore what he could get from other girls because of his pre-existing love for Lana. In Spirit, Chloe told Clark that he should go to the prom regardless of whether or not he gets with Lana because it's something he looked forward to. That scene also reminded me of the scene from S6 when Chloe asked Clark if he was going to ignore doing anything else because of his feelings for Lana.

When Clark and Lois met outside the crime scene in the day, it reminded me of the Chlark scene from Descent. Lois and Chloe went to get clues about the murder and Clark stayed behind to get some details from the scene of the crime (the mark that Maxima left and watching Lex walk away from the crime scene).

The scene outside the elevator seemed like the Chlark scene from Fever when Clark mumbled Lana's name in his sleep. I understand that Lois was more upset than she was sad during the scene in Instinct, but the fact that they both tried to mask their feelings about it and then reject all of their feelings when confronted about the situation just seemed to make a huge callback to that episode.

Finally, the last Clois scene seemed to me like the scene from Plastique when Clark confronts Chloe about her ring. Not exactly alike, but Chloe also shoots down some of Clark's hopes just like Lois did (even though she didn't do it intentionally, so I speak in Lois' defense).

[individuall]

^I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the Clois scenes that much :(...But honestly I have to completely disagree with you about the Chlark reminiscence...They were completely Cloisy too me, I saw absolutely NO Chlark-iness in those scenes...But that's just me...*shrugs*

[AndiGirl]

Yeah, I see what you're saying. I guess, though, I've always felt that the lingering looks were there. From the beginning. Lois flirts with Clark a LOT when the first meet in S4. In S5, she gives him that lingering look in "Exposed" at the end (the crack about the Elmer Fudd nightlight and his response to call her "sailor"); the whole convo they had when she helped with his graduation suit... the way they talked in "Lucy".... the way he reacted to A.C.... the looks the exchanged in "Crimson" when she made him the mixed tape.... the way she reacted to "Hydro" kiss even though she didn't know it was him.... the way he reacted to her green teddy when he barged in one day....

I've always said that I'm not a Cloiser just because it's Iconic... I'm an SVCloiser because I see something between SVLois and SVClark that I don't see them have with any other characters on the show. I think they get under each other's skin and they're strangely drawn to each other. I think they have an intense heat and attraction to each other that they constantly keep in check.

But, yes, it's definitely been amped up this year. Why? I think it's because Lana's gone. I think that this is the first time that Clark has 100% closed the door on Lana and that's why Lois is indulging herself when it comes Clark. She's crossing lines with him and not even fully aware of it (because it's almost like she can't help it) and I think that he's looking at her differently because he's now spending so much more time with her than he ever did before.... she always there and he now has to come to grips with the underlying attraction that is between them. (Which is per show canon, because he acknowledged that attraction openly in "Crimson".)

What we see now is the next natural progression of their relationship and I think it HAS been slow. This was the 4th episode of the season, and they used the first 3 to describe the shift in Clark/Lois's relationship to each other. Also, this was building on what happened last year from "Bizarro" to "Arctic", so it's not even something new to just THIS season. And, honestly, I can't imagine that "Instinct" is going to lead to them making out next episode and then getting married in episode 6. Chances are quite high that this is the just the beginning... after this, we still need Lois to openly acknowledge her feelings for Clark (not just in denial mode); Clark has to realize and openly acknowledge his feelings for Lois; they have to tell each other; and they need to start dating. Chances are that this whole process will take the rest of the season and we may never even get to the end point - meaning the dating. The series could actually end with them never acknowledging to each other how they feel & they just leave for the viewer to fill the blanks with the general template of the Superman mythos.

To me, it's quite premature to say that it's too soon or too much, because nothing has actually happened, yet. They're a long way from getting married. And, on the flip side, if Clark and Lois kept working together like they have for the past 3 episodes and Lois had zero feelings of jealousy in seeing her future husband macking on the sexy chick, then everyone would cry foul. Everyone would say that they're not in love and it'll never be realistic that they will be in love because Lois could care less.... if Clark went around acting like he was more in love with Chloe (in S8) than Lois, then folks would (rightfully so) think that something was seriously wrong because the man is more in love with his future wife's cousin than his future wife!

My point is... and I do have one... is that the end game does matter. And, right now, they are actually explaining to you (in what I consider to be a pretty cool manner) how Clark and Lois reach the end point of being madly in love and married. The dots connect for me and I honestly think that there was no other way for them to do it than the way they have.

I see what you mean too. I guess this could all just be them trying to take it to the next level and make sense of it all by the time Lana comes back. I just think last nights episode was very intense between the two of them....and not their normal routine. Which I guess it cant be the "norm" or they would never get anywhere. :lol:

I'm honestly totally onboard for Clois...I just wish they had made more long term plans...because this feels rushed to me. :\

But I still think they were freaking cute together!! ;)

[kryptonaidxh]

:DI loved to watch Lois so angry after seing Clark in the elevator with Maxima:D
and Maxima jealous of Lois after that, and what she said to Lois about the conection between Clark and Lois, and the fact that there´s something between them,just that they don´t know yet the potential they have as future soulmates.:D
and she couldn´t have been more right, there´s more romantic stuff between Lois and Clark, more than we watched this episode.:D, I loved how Clark ran after Lois to give her explanations, that shows that Lois means a lot of more to him:D

[AndiGirl]

I realize why I didn't love the Clois scenes now... It seemed all too much like Chlark throughout the episode. It didn't have that Cloisy feel to it IMO. :(

The first Clois scene at the Daily Planet seemed like it was a parallel or a mirror to the Chlark scene in Spirit in the Torch office. Lois pushing Clark to look at other options and not ignore what he could get from other girls because of his pre-existing love for Lana. In Spirit, Chloe told Clark that he should go to the prom regardless of whether or not he gets with Lana because it's something he looked forward to. That scene also reminded me of the scene from S6 when Chloe asked Clark if he was going to ignore doing anything else because of his feelings for Lana.

When Clark and Lois met outside the crime scene in the day, it reminded me of the Chlark scene from Descent. Lois and Chloe went to get clues about the murder and Clark stayed behind to get some details from the scene of the crime (the mark that Maxima left and watching Lex walk away from the crime scene).

The scene outside the elevator seemed like the Chlark scene from Fever when Clark mumbled Lana's name in his sleep. I understand that Lois was more upset than she was sad during the scene in Instinct, but the fact that they both tried to mask their feelings about it and then reject all of their feelings when confronted about the situation just seemed to make a huge callback to that episode.

Finally, the last Clois scene seemed to me like the scene from Plastique when Clark confronts Chloe about her ring. Not exactly alike, but Chloe also shoots down some of Clark's hopes just like Lois did (even though she didn't do it intentionally, so I speak in Lois' defense).

Honestly...I can see what you mean. The only moment I really loved was the sex comment...and then I realized why that is, it was the typical Lois!! :lol:

I dont know if their scenes were "chlark like" but they didnt scream Clois to me either. One of the reasons I enjoy them together is their banter...and they seem to be having less and less of that.

I dont know what my point is....:lol:. I just dont think they have to be serious all the time like they were tonight to persue a relationship...their sarcasm and banter is the reason I love them so much. :)

[geminis]

I see no Chlark in the Clois, that was just the normal Clois back and forth. Lois ribbing Clark for his tender sensibilities and Puritanical attitude, being Ms. bossy boots know it all when it comes to the job, fronting the Hoover dam sized defensive barricade which Clark can crack and slip through with unconscious ease without even trying. And Clark, responding to her humor and sarcasm, letting her take command when she wants to (which is most of the time). Clark is a little harder to analyze, he's not so obvious. This may have been more serious but the banter isn't gone. Maxima just hit home for both of them with her looking for her soulmate. That's something both Lois and Clark have shown they are concerned about.

[AndiGirl]

Yea..but something is different. I swear...I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade or anything. You know I Love you Cloisers! :)

I'm just trying to put my finger on what it was I didnt like...I dont know, Lois just doesnt totally seem like herself? Which I understand...is the point. We are seeing a new side of her. But I miss the snark..she always looks like she's two shakes away from crying anymore. There were a few scenes last night where she looked like she was on the brink of tears. :\

[eas]

I realize why I didn't love the Clois scenes now... It seemed all too much like Chlark throughout the episode. It didn't have that Cloisy feel to it IMO. :(

Really? There was NOTHING about this episode that reminded me of Chlark. Clana, at times, but not Chlark. It was completely classic Iconic Clois, to me.


The first Clois scene at the Daily Planet seemed like it was a parallel or a mirror to the Chlark scene in Spirit in the Torch office. Lois pushing Clark to look at other options and not ignore what he could get from other girls because of his pre-existing love for Lana. In Spirit, Chloe told Clark that he should go to the prom regardless of whether or not he gets with Lana because it's something he looked forward to. That scene also reminded me of the scene from S6 when Chloe asked Clark if he was going to ignore doing anything else because of his feelings for Lana.

Well... to be honest, this is also a conversation that LOIS has had with him before. That's where the "Harley" speech came from. And that's also not the only example of times that Chloe has tried get Clark over Lana... she tried for 7 seasons and usually had a variation on the exact same dialogue. So did Martha Kent. Unfortunately, this is less a parallel to Clark as it is a sad reminder that Clark has been All About Lana Lang for his whole life and every other female in his life has to tell him to get over it.

Also, the huge difference between Chloe and Lois is that in "Spirit" Chloe was hinting towards herself. She had an ulterior motive - Lois did not. At that moment, Lois wasn't thinking of herself as wild cherry... she just wanted him to suck it up and stop whining about Lana all the time -- that's what made it Classic Clois. (This back to when she first learned about Lana in "Gone" and the subsequent convos they've had about Lana since....)


When Clark and Lois met outside the crime scene in the day, it reminded me of the Chlark scene from Descent. Lois and Chloe went to get clues about the murder and Clark stayed behind to get some details from the scene of the crime (the mark that Maxima left and watching Lex walk away from the crime scene).

Again, I can't see the parallel... this is something that Clark does by nature of being Superman and it's classic Clois that Lois will stalk off to go look for clues & Clark will use that time to use his super-powers to find the clues she can't find. A major way that this completely differs from Chlark is the attitude that Lois has - Chloe has NEVER had this "all knowing" attitude towards Clark. Not even back when she was his boss at the Torch. So, again, it didn't even give me a hint of a flashback to Chlark... it was such a Lois Lane type of a scene, with her being all bossy and rude.


The scene outside the elevator seemed like the Chlark scene from Fever when Clark mumbled Lana's name in his sleep. I understand that Lois was more upset than she was sad during the scene in Instinct, but the fact that they both tried to mask their feelings about it and then reject all of their feelings when confronted about the situation just seemed to make a huge callback to that episode.

Wow... I totally didn't get that AT ALL. First of all, Lois doesn't WANT to be in love with Clark and if he told her he loved her, I think she'd run out screaming. Not exactly the reaction that Clark would have gotten from Chloe in "Fever". Also, Clark has not broken Lois's heart.... she went in a jealous rage in spite of herself and is totally conflicted and confused over it. She's definitely not someone who is ready to pour her heart out to Clark and she definitely wasn't heartbroken by anything he said... I think she's just massively pissed off at herself for falling for this guy.


Finally, the last Clois scene seemed to me like the scene from Plastique when Clark confronts Chloe about her ring. Not exactly alike, but Chloe also shoots down some of Clark's hopes just like Lois did (even though she didn't do it intentionally, so I speak in Lois' defense).

I have to say that, if anything, the scene reminded me of Clana loft scenes.... where the two would dance around each other and try to get the other to pick up the gauntlet & neither would take the bait. It was a pretty typical Clana loft scene back in the day (Lana goes to check up Clark and kind of stares at him for a second and he smiles at her all nice....) and that scene kind of hearkened back to it.

When Clark confronted Chloe about her ring, he had a legitimate reason to be hurt and he reacted as a friend. This scene didn't mirror it at all -- he was reflecting on whether or not he'd be alone & Lois stopped by to see him because she was trying to figure out what the hell was going on with her.... She wasn't even remotely confronting him and he wasn't doing it to her. No one was defensive.

[minerva73]

I realize that it wasn't the right thing to say that it seemed Chlarkish, but I agree with AndiGirl about Lois not seeming like her usual self.

After that first scene in the Planet, Lois didn't push forward in her bantering anymore. It's like she was willing to reason or stray away from Clark with whatever he said (even at the crime scene). When she saw them in the elevator, she justified her point and left. When she met him in the farm, I expected her to punch his arm like she always does. I liked that she did give him that "I wish the best for you" look when he asked her about his soulmate, but it didn't seem like what I expected Lois to do. I expected more Clois from Plastique-esque scenes from this episode.

[individuall]

I really wish I could see what you guys mean...I just don't...I thought last night's Clois/Lois was dead on... :/...Sorry..Going back to something you said Andi dear, you know I never saw Lois close to tears last night...I saw her confused and scared Sh**less/angry that she may have deeper feelings for Clark than she realized, but I never saw her about to burst into tears or anything.

[minerva73]

Really? There was NOTHING about this episode that reminded me of Chlark. Clana, at times, but not Chlark. It was completely classic Iconic Clois, to me.

Well... to be honest, this is also a conversation that LOIS has had with him before. That's where the "Harley" speech came from. And that's also not the only example of times that Chloe has tried get Clark over Lana... she tried for 7 seasons and usually had a variation on the exact same dialogue. So did Martha Kent. Unfortunately, this is less a parallel to Clark as it is a sad reminder that Clark has been All About Lana Lang for his whole life and every other female in his life has to tell him to get over it.

I can see why you said it did seem like a Clana scene too. I don't think that I am justified to say that it did seem like Chlark to me now that you all have pointed out numerous differences.

That's true especially about the Harley scene. Martha may have coerced Clark to try to let go of his feelings for Lana, but Martha never pushed Clark to rush into dating once again in every Clark/Martha scene from S6. Lois and Chloe did seem to want Clark to let go of Lana finally and get back into the dating game (like in Crimson when she set him up at the Valentine's Day Party at the Talon or wherever).


Also, the huge difference between Chloe and Lois is that in "Spirit" Chloe was hinting towards herself. She had an ulterior motive - Lois did not. At that moment, Lois wasn't thinking of herself as wild cherry... she just wanted him to suck it up and stop whining about Lana all the time -- that's what made it Classic Clois. (This back to when she first learned about Lana in "Gone" and the subsequent convos they've had about Lana since....)

I guess I probably misinterpreted that scene then. I assumed that Lois was trying to hint that Clark should go after women like her (even though she wasn't hinting that Clark should come after her, but she was in one way or another). That probably made no sense, though... It doesn't even sound right in my head. Anyways, Lois has shown that she has supported Clana in the past, so it's not like Lois' feelings towards Clana have remained the same throughout the years. It's after Lois saw Clana as a rollercoaster in S6 that she started feeling that way (just like she feels about Chimmy).


Again, I can't see the parallel... this is something that Clark does by nature of being Superman and it's classic Clois that Lois will stalk off to go look for clues & Clark will use that time to use his super-powers to find the clues she can't find. A major way that this completely differs from Chlark is the attitude that Lois has - Chloe has NEVER had this "all knowing" attitude towards Clark. Not even back when she was his boss at the Torch. So, again, it didn't even give me a hint of a flashback to Chlark... it was such a Lois Lane type of a scene, with her being all bossy and rude.

Yeah, I realize that it's not a parallel at all. I just added that in at the last minute to "try" to prove my point about the parallels between the Clois scenes in this episode and Chlark. The same thing happened in Plastique and I had no problem with it. *apologizes for making you defend your point about this part b/c I had no reason to put it* :o


Wow... I totally didn't get that AT ALL. First of all, Lois doesn't WANT to be in love with Clark and if he told her he loved her, I think she'd run out screaming. Not exactly the reaction that Clark would have gotten from Chloe in "Fever". Also, Clark has not broken Lois's heart.... she went in a jealous rage in spite of herself and is totally conflicted and confused over it. She's definitely not someone who is ready to pour her heart out to Clark and she definitely wasn't heartbroken by anything he said... I think she's just massively pissed off at herself for falling for this guy.

I agree to some extent. When I heard of this scene from the spoilers, I was hoping that it wouldn't be like the Clana scene from Hypnotic when Lana saw Clark making love to Simone in the loft. And I'm glad it wasn't like that, but at the same time I kind of did feel that Chloe would've reacted the way Lois did in Instinct. Chloe read that letter to Clark when he was asleep because she knew that he wouldn't hear it. If Clark got up or at least muttered her name in his sleep, then she would've been happy. But if Clark got up and saw Chloe after she read the letter and he muttered Lana's name, I'm pretty sure that Chloe would've acted like Lois did. Given Chloe's attitude at that point in the series, I would've guessed that she wouldn't have told Clark about her feelings for him. She would've tried to play it off just like Lois did (if I did interpret the scene the same way that you did).


I have to say that, if anything, the scene reminded me of Clana loft scenes.... where the two would dance around each other and try to get the other to pick up the gauntlet & neither would take the bait. It was a pretty typical Clana loft scene back in the day (Lana goes to check up Clark and kind of stares at him for a second and he smiles at her all nice....) and that scene kind of hearkened back to it.

When Clark confronted Chloe about her ring, he had a legitimate reason to be hurt and he reacted as a friend. This scene didn't mirror it at all -- he was reflecting on whether or not he'd be alone & Lois stopped by to see him because she was trying to figure out what the hell was going on with her.... She wasn't even remotely confronting him and he wasn't doing it to her. No one was defensive.

I also see the Clana resemblance in this one. Now that you've brought up that, then I'd have to say that it also reminds me of some Chlark scenes too (to some extent). Chloe has also stood there and waited for Clark to come up and take her away, but he hasn't and she left him there. But honestly, I really do see the Clana resemblance especially when Lana admitted that she's waited for him in Crimson.

Clark expected some kind of advice from Lois or at least something to push him forward. He didn't really get it from her. It was to be expected since Lois admitted that she can't really do sadness herself, so she's not the best with giving advice with that.

[AndiGirl]

I really wish I could see what you guys mean...I just don't...I thought last night's Clois/Lois was dead on... :/...Sorry..Going back to something you said Andi dear, you know I never saw Lois close to tears last night...I saw her confused and scared Sh**less/angry that she may have deeper feelings for Clark than she realized, but I never saw her about to burst into tears or anything.

I dont know how to explain it really...it was just, off? Maybe thats the problem...they are trying to make it into the mythos Lois and Clark...so maybe it's taking away from the smallville version?? I really have no idea. I just didnt love it. :\

I dont think she was ever about to burst into tears...but she looked like she could cry a few times. In the DP after she caught Clark and Maxima....when Maxima flips her car...and then the last scene between clark and Lois. Maybe ED just has moist eyes?? :lol:. She just looked like she was blinking back tears all the time.

[rebecavaldez]

well of course it's lois you never really get to see her in tears...
but if you rewatch that last scene between her and clark you will see that her eyes were sort of watery...

[AndiGirl]

well of course it's lois you never really get to see her in tears...
but if you rewatch that last scene between her and clark you will see that her eyes were sort of watery...

You saw it too!! yay! :lol:
Sometimes I just think I'm crazy and I see things that really arent there. But if you saw her moist eyes too...I feel better. ;) Who knows...maybe it was dry outside and ED was having eye issues...they just seemed watery a lot.

[minerva73]

I see no Chlark in the Clois, that was just the normal Clois back and forth. Lois ribbing Clark for his tender sensibilities and Puritanical attitude, being Ms. bossy boots know it all when it comes to the job, fronting the Hoover dam sized defensive barricade which Clark can crack and slip through with unconscious ease without even trying. And Clark, responding to her humor and sarcasm, letting her take command when she wants to (which is most of the time). Clark is a little harder to analyze, he's not so obvious. This may have been more serious but the banter isn't gone. Maxima just hit home for both of them with her looking for her soulmate. That's something both Lois and Clark have shown they are concerned about.

That's the thing for me, though. Besides the first two scenes at the Daily Planet and at the crime scene, Lois wasn't being Ms. Bossy Boots. Given that she didn't have much room to take on that persona of hers, I can give her a little bit of breathing room, but still. The banter was still there, but the level of seriousness didn't seem like it was enough. I expected the level of seriousness from Apocalypse or Toxic. This just seemed to come there halfway. YMMV.


Honestly...I can see what you mean. The only moment I really loved was the sex comment...and then I realized why that is, it was the typical Lois!! :lol:

I dont know if their scenes were "chlark like" but they didnt scream Clois to me either. One of the reasons I enjoy them together is their banter...and they seem to be having less and less of that.

I dont know what my point is....:lol:. I just dont think they have to be serious all the time like they were tonight to persue a relationship...their sarcasm and banter is the reason I love them so much. :)

I agree completely. It really did seem like typical Lois to say that especially since Clark responded with "like when you played a sport". I didn't expect anything less.

I agree. Their seriousness is nice to see once a while, but the fact that it was smudged together with a banter a few scenes before was just awkward to feel IMO. It was nice when they juggled their serious feelings and their banters back and forth between episodes with Clois scenes. But I guess that's just me.


^I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the Clois scenes that much :(...But honestly I have to completely disagree with you about the Chlark reminiscence...They were completely Cloisy too me, I saw absolutely NO Chlark-iness in those scenes...But that's just me...*shrugs*

I agree with you that they didn't seem that Chlarky too after what all of you have said. I guess that was me just venting (even though I wasn't upset at all...)

[eas]

I realize that it wasn't the right thing to say that it seemed Chlarkish, but I agree with AndiGirl about Lois not seeming like her usual self.

After that first scene in the Planet, Lois didn't push forward in her bantering anymore. It's like she was willing to reason or stray away from Clark with whatever he said (even at the crime scene). When she saw them in the elevator, she justified her point and left. When she met him in the farm, I expected her to punch his arm like she always does. I liked that she did give him that "I wish the best for you" look when he asked her about his soulmate, but it didn't seem like what I expected Lois to do. I expected more Clois from Plastique-esque scenes from this episode.

Hhhmm... OK, I didn't see that. I saw her listen to Clark's input at the crime scene (after explaing exactly why he was too "new" to be able to handle the story by himself, even though it was really because the story suddenly became a lot juicier than she originally thought) and then she told him what they needed to do after he gave her the info. She didn't back down and picked up investigating right where he left off...

Then, she went into a ballistic rage when she found him making out with the girl... was this OOC? Yes, it was. But that was the point. Clark was freaked out by her anger and so was she. That's why she kept muttering to herself when she went to the car.

Then, the convo she had with Maxima? Spot on Lois Lane... right down to the "bring it on, *****". ONLY Lois Lane would see that a woman had just felled 4 SWAT members and then lift up her fists to fight with the crazy chick. ONLY Lois. LOL

And, then, the loft scene was also very much Lois.... it was almost identical to the scene she had with him in "Oracle" (the Harley speech) and it also kind of reminded me of their quiet moments together in S4... like the "Lucy" convo ("oh, we're friends now?" "I won't tell anyone if you won't") and then the convo they had in "Aqua" ("I've met a lot of guys who want to take over the world, but not many that want to save it" and "I promise you, Lois, one day you'll meet someone even more special") and the way they talked when Lois helped him with his tie for graduation.... or, in "Crimson", when Lois and Clark realized that her making the mixed tape was a big deal. Or the scene in "Apocolypse" where she tries to get him to cheer up.

To me, this loft scene was very much like every other Clois loft scene - except for one difference. Now, Lois had to deal with her changing feelings for Clark and that made her a little emotional... just like Ollie used to make her emotional before. She's freaked out and confused and so that changed the dynamics of their convo a little. But she was still the same Lois... because, at the end, she turns to him and says, "Being housemates didn't work for us so well the first time. Let's not tempt fate." And then she winks at him... it was the equivalent of the punch (this season she's winking more than punching).

[individuall]

OK. So I just went back to watch the loft scene again and you're right Andi she does look like she has tears in her eyes...Hmmm...I mean it's not every day Lois has tears in her eyes (though she does seem to be having a very emotional couple of weeks..Toxic..And now Instinct LOL) I guess it just worked for me...I didn't see it as 'off' I saw it as another facet of Lois' character... It was exactly how I would expect/anticipate Lois to act in that situation...IDK.. But I do hope things lighten up a little...I do miss the large bouts of banter, but after last season I'm happy to get any really! ;)

[AndiGirl]

I dont know guys...I think we may just have to agree to disagree on this one. I love Clark and Lois...last night just didnt do it for me. Sorry. :\

But I'm still happy for you all that enjoyed it. :)

[rebecavaldez]

You saw it too!! yay! :lol:
Sometimes I just think I'm crazy and I see things that really arent there. But if you saw her moist eyes too...I feel better. ;) Who knows...maybe it was dry outside and ED was having eye issues...they just seemed watery a lot.

LOL...of course i saw it...somone would have to be blind not too
i feel like it was Lois's way of saying "I'm your soulmate, Clark. I'm the one you haven't been looking at"
but hey that's just me...maybe im just imagining things!

[AndiGirl]

OK. So I just went back to watch the loft scene again and you're right Andi she does look like she has tears in her eyes...Hmmm...I mean it's not every day Lois has tears in her eyes (though she does seem to be having a very emotional couple of weeks..Toxic..And now Instinct LOL) I guess it just worked for me...I didn't see it as 'off' I saw it as another facet of Lois' character... It was exactly how I would expect/anticipate Lois to act in that situation...IDK.. But I do hope things lighten up a little...I do miss the large bouts of banter, but after last season I'm happy to get any really! ;)

I agree Kaitlyn! :)
I think there are many sides to Lois..and this was just one of them. But I want them to keep that playful side as well. I dont know why Lois seemed off to me...I really wish I could explain...it was just a weird feeling I got?? I dont know. I really wish I did!! :rotfl:

[individuall]

Hhhmm... OK, I didn't see that. I saw her listen to Clark's input at the crime scene (after explaing exactly why he was too "new" to be able to handle the story by himself, even though it was really because the story suddenly became a lot juicier than she originally thought) and then she told him what they needed to do after he gave her the info. She didn't back down and picked up investigating right where he left off...

Then, she went into a ballistic rage when she found him making out with the girl... was this OOC? Yes, it was. But that was the point. Clark was freaked out by her anger and so was she. That's why she kept muttering to herself when she went to the car.

Then, the convo she had with Maxima? Spot on Lois Lane... right down to the "bring it on, *****". ONLY Lois Lane would see that a woman had just felled 4 SWAT members and then lift up her fists to fight with the crazy chick. ONLY Lois. LOL

And, then, the loft scene was also very much Lois.... it was almost identical to the scene she had with him in "Oracle" (the Harley speech) and it also kind of reminded me of their quiet moments together in S4... like the "Lucy" convo ("oh, we're friends now?" "I won't tell anyone if you won't") and then the convo they had in "Aqua" ("I've met a lot of guys who want to take over the world, but not many that want to save it" and "I promise you, Lois, one day you'll meet someone even more special") and the way they talked when Lois helped him with his tie for graduation.... or, in "Crimson", when Lois and Clark realized that her making the mixed tape was a big deal. Or the scene in "Apocolypse" where she tries to get him to cheer up.

To me, this loft scene was very much like every other Clois loft scene - except for one difference. Now, Lois had to deal with her changing feelings for Clark and that made her a little emotional... just like Ollie used to make her emotional before. She's freaked out and confused and so that changed the dynamics of their convo a little. But she was still the same Lois... because, at the end, she turns to him and says, "Being housemates didn't work for us so well the first time. Let's not tempt fate." And then she winks at him... it was the equivalent of the punch (this season she's winking more than punching).

What she said! ;)

Great post eas ITA. :D

[AndiGirl]

LOL...of course i saw it...somone would have to be blind not too
i feel like it was Lois's way of saying "I'm your soulmate, Clark. I'm the one you haven't been looking at"
but hey that's just me...maybe im just imagining things!

I dont think you are crazy at all. Thats how I saw it as well.....that or she was sad Clark hasnt seen her that way. So she could have been worried that because they didnt have the instant "Who is this person...I love him/her!" she may not be his soulmate. (which we all know is crap...so no worries Lois!!) :lol:

[eas]

^

Yup, guys, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. It's all good. :)

[ginnyfan]

Lois yelling at Clark and poking him reminded me of hurt Lois from cloisthelegendbegins' ... Annie's ... story. Lois seemed to feel really hurt and betrayed. Clark's reaction to it is just WONDERFUL.

[rebecavaldez]

OK. So I just went back to watch the loft scene again and you're right Andi she does look like she has tears in her eyes...Hmmm...I mean it's not every day Lois has tears in her eyes (though she does seem to be having a very emotional couple of weeks..Toxic..And now Instinct LOL) I guess it just worked for me...I didn't see it as 'off' I saw it as another facet of Lois' character... It was exactly how I would expect/anticipate Lois to act in that situation...IDK.. But I do hope things lighten up a little...I do miss the large bouts of banter, but after last season I'm happy to get any really! ;)
dont want to say i told you so.....
and yeah i love the silly moments of clois those are my favorites...but i also like when clois gets touchy...those are good too...what am i talking about i love ALL clois moments!

[amberdawn]

Clark's reaction to it was one of utter confusion. :lol:

[minerva73]

Hhhmm... OK, I didn't see that. I saw her listen to Clark's input at the crime scene (after explaing exactly why he was too "new" to be able to handle the story by himself, even though it was really because the story suddenly became a lot juicier than she originally thought) and then she told him what they needed to do after he gave her the info. She didn't back down and picked up investigating right where he left off...

Then, she went into a ballistic rage when she found him making out with the girl... was this OOC? Yes, it was. But that was the point. Clark was freaked out by her anger and so was she. That's why she kept muttering to herself when she went to the car.

Then, the convo she had with Maxima? Spot on Lois Lane... right down to the "bring it on, *****". ONLY Lois Lane would see that a woman had just felled 4 SWAT members and then lift up her fists to fight with the crazy chick. ONLY Lois. LOL

And, then, the loft scene was also very much Lois.... it was almost identical to the scene she had with him in "Oracle" (the Harley speech) and it also kind of reminded me of their quiet moments together in S4... like the "Lucy" convo ("oh, we're friends now?" "I won't tell anyone if you won't") and then the convo they had in "Aqua" ("I've met a lot of guys who want to take over the world, but not many that want to save it" and "I promise you, Lois, one day you'll meet someone even more special") and the way they talked when Lois helped him with his tie for graduation.... or, in "Crimson", when Lois and Clark realized that her making the mixed tape was a big deal. Or the scene in "Apocolypse" where she tries to get him to cheer up.

To me, this loft scene was very much like every other Clois loft scene - except for one difference. Now, Lois had to deal with her changing feelings for Clark and that made her a little emotional... just like Ollie used to make her emotional before. She's freaked out and confused and so that changed the dynamics of their convo a little. But she was still the same Lois... because, at the end, she turns to him and says, "Being housemates didn't work for us so well the first time. Let's not tempt fate." And then she winks at him... it was the equivalent of the punch (this season she's winking more than punching).

I'm gonna rewatch that scene, but I think I get the gist of what you're saying. To be honest, I think my opinion of the scene might change after I rewatch it and read what you said again.

Totally true. :D Classic Lois Lane line, I can't say that I disagree at all. I loved how fierce she looked when she said it too. Like she was ready to kick some intergalactic backside.

It doesn't seem that out of character for Lois, but it just seemed like a totally very quick change in Lois' character IMO. But I guess it links back to what you said earlier about the elevator scene. She was/is confused about her anger and that's why she gave Clark that response in the loft.

*also agreeing to disagree*

[individuall]

I dont think you are crazy at all. Thats how I saw it as well.....that or she was sad Clark hasnt seen her that way. So she could have been worried that because they didnt have the instant "Who is this person...I love him/her!" she may not be his soulmate. (which we all know is crap...so no worries Lois!!) :lol:

I'm agreeing to disagree and blah blah blah...

But her whole 'teary eyed' thing at the end in the loft...Kinda confuzzles me now that I've actually noticed it...I mean why would she be close to tears? He wasn't being mean or anything...Maybe her allergies from Shelby? That has me kinda stumped...Also, how would Clark, being a whole three feet away from her not see her eyes glistening and ask her what's wrong...:confused:

[AndiGirl]

I'm agreeing to disagree and blah blah blah...

But her whole 'teary eyed' thing at the end in the loft...Kinda confuzzles me now that I've actually noticed it...I mean why would she be close to tears? He wasn't being mean or anything...Maybe her allergies from Shelby? That has me kinda stumped...Also, how would Clark, being a whole three feet away from her not see her eyes glistening and ask her what's wrong...:confused:

You crack me up Kaityln!! :lol:.

I really dont know...it was weird. Maybe she is in denial right now? With Clark talking about soul mates...and her reply being that "When the right girl comes into your life you'll just know." If that was the case for them...they would be together. So maybe Lois is telling herself she isnt "the one" for Clark. Which we all know is crap....but maybe thats why Lois is upset? :\

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Did that make any sense?

[individuall]

You crack me up Kaityln!! :lol:.

I really dont know...it was weird. Maybe she is in denial right now? With Clark talking about soul mates...and her reply being that "When the right girl comes into your life you'll just know." If that was the case for them...they would be together. So maybe Lois is telling herself she isnt "the one" for Clark. Which we all know is crap....but maybe thats why Lois is upset? :\

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Did that make any sense?

:D Aw. shucks :o

I get what you're...It makes sense... I just don't know why that would make her teary eyed...I mean it takes a lot for Lois to cry and we all know she doesn't do 'emotions'...I guess it just kind of threw me off a little...But if you watch the scene again, she doesn't really sound emotional or anything...I mean her demeaner and her voice sound normal...But her expression/eyes...I dunno...I get what your saying, it just seems weird that, she would get that emotional since she's not normally such an emotional person..But I guess lack of sleep/finding out you may have anything, but friendly feelings for your best friend and trying to escape the Chimmy! (aren't we all :lol:) has got her acting a little out of whack? :\

[eas]

Oh, man, here I was agreeing to disagree and now I'm AGREEING with you all!!

Yeah, it was freakin' odd as hell that she was crying in the end. I re-watched and there are tears glistening and you guys are right - it doesn't make sense.

[AndiGirl]

:D Aw. shucks :o

I get what you're...It makes sense... I just don't know why that would make her teary eyed...I mean it takes a lot for Lois to cry and we all know she doesn't do 'emotions'...I guess it just kind of threw me off a little...But if you watch the scene again, she doesn't really sound emotional or anything...I mean her demeaner and her voice sound normal...But her expression/eyes...I dunno...I get what your saying, it just seems weird that, she would get that emotional since she's not normally such an emotional person..But I guess lack of sleep/finding out you may have anything, but friendly feelings for your best friend and trying to escape the Chimmy! (aren't we all :lol:) has got her acting a little out of whack? :\

ITA, Lois doesnt cry often....and definitely not as much as she almost did in this episode. Who knows....it could be nothing and I'm reading way too much into it. Maybe ED was having a bad allergy day? I know mine have been crazy lately!! :lol:

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Oh, man, here I was agreeing to disagree and now I'm AGREEING with you all!!

Yeah, it was freakin' odd as hell that she was crying in the end. I re-watched and there are tears glistening and you guys are right - it doesn't make sense.

:lol: We are such complex people!! If it makes you feel better...I agreed with some of your comments to James! So my mind never seems to be made up! :p

[geminis]

I think Lois was moist eyed because Clark was expressing how he felt about soulmates and she feels exactly the same way. It was kind of like that Harley moment, but without the acknowledgement of understanding. Lois was hearing Clark say exactly what she hopes and fears: that they have a soulmate, and don't want to overlook that person. Lois is possibly replaying silently what Maxima said to her, but the walls are back up and she's guarding against her feelings. That explosion of sentiment probably scared her so now she has her back up and is in full on denial.

Clark, despite the x-ray vision, also has a problem with feelings. He, too has blinders on, courtesy of Lana. He did seem a little dense to how Lois was feeling, but I think if he realized it, he also knew that that wall would be tougher to crack.

I'm also going to have to watch the loft scene though, cuz I may have totally flubbed the interpretation.

[Jade4813]

Oh, man, here I was agreeing to disagree and now I'm AGREEING with you all!!

Yeah, it was freakin' odd as hell that she was crying in the end. I re-watched and there are tears glistening and you guys are right - it doesn't make sense.

She did get tossed in a car over like a block and a half. That would make me a little misty eyed. ;)

[AndiGirl]

She did get tossed in a car over like a block and a half. That would make me a little misty eyed. ;)

True, I would be a wreck!! But she wasnt really that misty eyed until the end of their last scene together....? :\
I dont know..I'm completely confused by it all...

[individuall]

She did get tossed in a car over like a block and a half. That would make me a little misty eyed. ;)

Yeah, but how do you explain the Loft scene?

Serious question...Cuz I'm confused on why she would be misty eyed there...:confused:

[geminis]

Hey Kaitlyn, I just said it, but I'll say it again: in my opinion, Lois is misty eyed because Clark is talking about having a soulmate and being afraid he'll miss her. Well, she has expressed the same exact sentiment, and to his mother, no less. They both have the same desire and the same fear. She also has heard Maxima say that she and Clark have a connection and aren't yet aware of it. Alert, alert, alert. Danger, Lois Lane! Feelings, and for a simple Kansas farm boy. That's putting your heart at risk. Up go the walls but the tears leak through.

[individuall]

Hey Kaitlyn, I just said it, but I'll say it again: in my opinion, Lois is misty eyed because Clark is talking about having a soulmate and being afraid he'll miss her. Well, she has expressed the same exact sentiment, and to his mother, no less. They both have the same desire and the same fear. She also has heard Maxima say that she and Clark have a connection and aren't yet aware of it. Alert, alert, alert. Danger, Lois Lane! Feelings, and for a simple Kansas farm boy. That's putting your heart at risk. Up go the walls but the tears leak through.

I'm sorry. I did read your other post and I understand what you're saying and everything But...I dunno I guess it just seemed a little weird that it would make her so emotional...

[AndiGirl]

I'm sorry. I did read your other post and I understand what you're saying and everything But...I dunno I guess it just seemed a little weird that it would make her so emotional...

IA, your post was very good Gemini...it just seemed a bit out of character for Lois...

[rebecavaldez]

man all yall clois haters chill...she was crying....deal with it...lol....
why do i keep getting emails from this forum!?!?!?

[AndiGirl]

man all yall clois haters chill...she was crying....deal with it...lol....
why do i keep getting emails from this forum!?!?!?

What makes you think Kaityln and I are Clois haters at all?? Quite the opposite really. She really likes them...and I'm getting there. We're asking legistic questions...nothing wrong with that. ;)

[geminis]

It is a great question and as I said, I'll have to watch the episode again to get a better handle for it, but I still think I could see Lois a little verklempt at Clark mirroring her feelings. This is Clark, the only one who's able to get past the Lane barricade. Why wouldn't she show some sensitivity? She may be a concrete wall outside but we know there's a big ole marshmallow interior. And again, she's with Clark, who can draw her out without even trying.

Off topic, re my name: don't forget the s at the end of geminis. I'm a Spanish speaking twin born in the zodiac sign Gemini; Geminis in Spanish. I believe there is a Gemini on the boards as well, but we're two different people. But I don't have a problem with being called Ann either, to clear up the confusion.

[individuall]

What makes you think Kaityln and I are Clois haters at all?? Quite the opposite really. She really likes them...and I'm getting there. We're asking legistic questions...nothing wrong with that. ;)

Thank you, dear :)

I really have to stop over analyzing Lois' tear ducts...I guess if was just a fluke or PMS or she just had very watery eyes that day...Who knows:\ As long as these over-emotional-for-no-reason scenes don't become the norm I'll be OK..It was a beautiful scene besides that...I just don't want them turning Lois Lane into some sap because she's falling for Clark...That I will not tolerate! That is NOT Lois Lane...But let's focus on things that are Lois Lane, shall we?

Like when she's poking Clark in the chest! :lol:

"I AM PERFECTLY CALM" *pokety poke poke poke*
and Clark looks down like "is she poking my in the chest?"
That scene will never get old...EVER! :D

[liana]

IA, your post was very good Gemini...it just seemed a bit out of character for Lois...

I think that Lois was overwelmed by all that happened in this episode. She never expected having any kind of romantic feelings for Clark at all. All of a sudden she discovered that she does have feelings for him, and that he feels the same way, or she wouldn't have been able to pull him out of his transe.

Then she goes to talk with him, right after this, because, after all, she is Lois and she has to clear up the air between them after her emotional scene at the DP. She is not prepared to face him yet, you can see it, because before she even talks to him, she breaths deeply and decides to do it any way. They start to talk, and I think she realy believed that she would be able to just dismiss everything that happened, but then Clark starts to talk about soulmates, and that brings up everything that Maxima told her about their feelings and the bond between them.

On top of all that, Clark has to bring Chloe's old feelings for him in the mix, and that was probably something that would also make Lois pause, because she really loves her cousin, and is fiercely loyal towards her. The way I see it, Clark brought up three sore topics for Lois in the moment:

1) her feelings for Clark, and the fact that he might be her soulmate after all;

2) Clark's feelings towards her, and the fact that he is still so completely oblivious to those feelings;

3) How does her cousin would feel if something happens between them.

That is why I think that there were tears in her eyes on that moment. She is just not prepared to face all this right now. And even though we know that Chloe has moved on, I am not so sure if Lois believes that. There is where I think that the spoiler for next episode of Lois supporting a romantic chlark relationship will come to play. Faced with her own feelings, and even the possibility of Clark returning them, Lois will not feel comfortable about it because of Chloe.

That is the way I see it, any way. :) I mean it was very telling the way that her eyes were in tears when Clark started talking about the way Chloe felt towards him. It was like throwing salt on an open wound.

[Jade4813]

Head trauma. Delayed effect. ;)

Okay, okay, in all seriousness...

I think if Lois really UNDERSTOOD her feelings for Clark, she'd be angry - at him or at herself. I don't know; maybe it's just because she's feeling things and she really doesn't understand herself why she's feeling them and she doesn't know what to do about them. Yes, Maxima said that there was a bond, but this is Lois. It takes far more than being tossed in a car once and given a good lecture for something to get through to her.

I think in the loft scene, she's still coming to terms with the fact that Maxima may not have been entirely wrong. She was clearly confused by her reaction to Clark at the elevator - that seemed to take her by surprise as well. And when Maxima said, "You felt it too..." she didn't respond - not, I don't think, because she was like "EUREKA!" but more because she HAD felt something strange at the elevator and she just really didn't know what that was that had caused her to act that way.

I think in the loft, she was really understanding that there was something different between them, but I don't think she's processed it enough to be angry at him or defensive about herself. Those things, I believe, will come.

If you watch, she's walking normally and then as she approaches the top of the stairs, she slows and she looks at Clark a bit, her head tilted to the side. This is before she makes her presence known. There's something going on with her, she knows, but she really hasn't processed what that is yet. She has to brace herself, but she doesn't understand why, not really. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt; it's Lois Lane's middle name. (Check the birth certificate.)

I think this uncertainty is present even in how she makes her presence known. Even if she recognized she was in love with Clark, she'd normally be very loud and...well...HELLO! I'm here! Actually probably more than usual if she was trying to hide her feelings that she recognized having, because heaven forbid Clark should clue in that she feels them. Here, she makes a quiet clearing of her throat - a sound that is, in itself, generally denoting a moment of uncertainty of how to proceed.

Clark turns and asks her what she's doing there, and if you watch, while she answers that question, it's business as usual. A little toned down, perhaps, but if so not much. "The crazy lady's gone." And one femmbot can't put a dent in Lois. This is all Loisy behavior, perhaps with a little less "in-your-faceness" than usual, I suppose, but then Lois has been open enough with Clark in the past that she's past trying to prove to him how immune she is to being hurt. That went out the window after the Ollie breakup. So perhaps less bravado, but that's understandable.

Then we get to the crux of the conversation.

"You saved my life." Here, her voice falters a little. "Tell me about it." But not much. Possibly a little mental flashback to the moment in question, which is painful, but again I'm not sure she understands why. The memory comes to mind and it just hurts a bit, but she carries on, only perhaps without the usual abrasive comment she might otherwise have made. Again, this is a memory that would hurt, regardless of any reason she'd have come up with in her mind to explain Clark's behavior, but she doesn't necessarily understand why the thought of that scene is QUITE as unpleasant as it is.

And then, of course, comes Clark's, "She said some weird things to me" and Lois's "Really?" Here, she's clearly a little nervous about what Maxima might have said. Was it the same thing that Maxima had said to Lois?

I really don't think that Lois starts looking misty-eyed until AFTER Clark has told her about the letter and mentioned his soul mate. This is something that Lois herself has worried about, of course - she talked about it with Martha.

It's that moment, when he says, "What if my soulmate comes along but I'm too blind to see it?" that it seems to me that Lois becomes the closest to tears. This rather makes sense to me.

For a good deal of the episode, at least since the elevator (that was the moment, really), Lois has realized that she totally overreacted to Clark making out with Maxima. More than she should have. But she doesn't understand why; in fact, she's in denial about even pondering why. It seems in her scene with Maxima, at least, that Lois isn't lying when she's saying, "We can barely stand each other!" She's just in denial. She's certainly not saying it to save her own ass.

And now, standing in Clark's loft and hearing him make the same types of comments she's made, her eyes drop and she looks to the side. That comment hit home - not just on an "I relate" level but on an "ouch" level too. You can tell that this comment hurt her, and I think she wasn't expecting it. If she'd been expecting it, if she'd really recognized her feelings for him and was in full "cover-up" mode, she'd have been bracing herself from the beginning, and she would have made a conscious effort NOT to react when he said that.

But this isn't what happened.

She looks down and to the side, and when she speaks again, her voice is just a little unsteady and there does seem to be some moisture in her eyes. Smile. "I don't know, Smallville, but I tihnk..." Pause, and you can almost see her bracing herself and forcing the upbeat tone, "That when the right girl comes into your life, you'll know!"

I think this was really the moment when Lois truly began to register that, just maybe, she actually DID want to be that girl. It hurt when he asked that of her, and she wasn't expecting that, but it made her realize that Maxima may not have been right.

Yes, Lois gets defensive. She gets angry, even. I played with this in "Recrimination" when she was angry with Clark for making her fall in love with him. But that's a defense mechanism; in order for it to be triggered, Lois has to feel defensive. I don't think she was there yet because she was still in denial about what "Sluttyana" said. It didn't seem to me like she believed it when she was facing off with Maxima; she was probably still telling herself that Clark's bit of stuff was crazy.

But then, from the moment she sees Clark in the loft, she realizes that she IS unsure. She's been hurt by what she saw, and she doesn't know why. And then, when he mentions soulmates to her, it clearly hurts her but she smiles and gets through it. I think if she'd really come to terms with the fact that she actually DOES have feelings for Clark, she would have had that overly-bright smile from the beginning as she covered and deflected as quick as she possibly could. BECAUSE we saw her hurt, because we saw her process these things, I think it's clear that this is really the moment that she began to understand that her feelings, at least, weren't exactly what she'd like to pretend they were when it came to Clark.

He asks her what Maxima asked her, and she's still recovering, so her voice is a little unsteady, but she's clearly launched herself into "cover up" mode. Which is clear when she turns down his offer. I think this shows a very clear shift in her attitude; in the beginning of the episode, she was, at least to me, clearly rooting for an offer. But now, things have changed with her, so she turns them down.

Right now, she's in Emergency Cover Up mode. I expect if things played out normally next week, we'd get Angry!Lois or at least Defensive!Lois! We'll probably at the very least get PretendingEverything'sPerfectlytheSameEvenThoughSh e'sTryingTooHard!Lois. That's Lois. She may even get mad at Clark for making her have feelings for him - particularly if he doesn't seem to notice. But since I feel, at least, that she didn't really recognize that there were feelings there until her conversation with Clark in the loft, it is not surprising to me that her emotions were betrayed more in that scene than we would normally see. She hadn't, until that point, really owned up to the fact - to herself - that there were feelings there; she'd been in denial about them to herself until then, so she didn't realize until then that she had to hide them from Clark.

Just my POV.

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I think that Lois was overwelmed by all that happened in this episode. She never expected having any kind of romantic feelings for Clark at all. All of a sudden she discovered that she does have feelings for him, and that he feels the same way, or she wouldn't have been able to pull him out of his transe.

Then she goes to talk with him, right after this, because, after all, she is Lois and she has to clear up the air between them after her emotional scene at the DP. She is not prepared to face him it, you can see it, because before even talk to him, she breaths deeply and decides to do it any way. They start to talk, and I think she realy believed that she would be able to just dismiss everything that happen, but then Clark starts to talk about soulmates, and that brings up everything that Maxima told her about their feelings and the bond between them.

On top of all that, Clark has to bring Chloe's old feelings for him in the mix, and that was probably something that would also make Lois pause, because she really loves her cousin, and is fiercely loyal towards her. The way I see it, Clark brought up three sore topics for Lois in the moment:

1) her feelings for Clark, and the fact that he might be her soulmate after all;

2) Clark's feelings towards her, and the fact that he is still so completely oblivious to those feelings;

3) How does her cousin would feel if something happens between them.

That is why I think that there were tears in her eyes on that moment. She is just not prepared to face all this right now. And even though we know that Chloe has moved on, I am not so sure if Lois believes that. There is where I think that the spoiler for next episode of Lois supporting a romantic chlark relationship will come to play. Faced with her own feelings, and even the possibility of Clark returning them, Lois will not feel comfortable about it because of Chloe.

That is the way I see it, any way. :) I mean it was very telling the way that her eyes were in tears when Clark started talking about the way Chloe felt towards him. It was like throwing salt on an open wound.

IA with a good deal of this! :)

[geminis]

And a perfectly excellent POV it is! ITA 100%. Could not have said it better. That's what I was trying to express without a fresh memory of the incident.

[iThieve]

well i just thought it was fantastic.

[individuall]

Ann, liana and Jade....THANK YOU! :D

I feel a lot better now and ITA with everything you guys said! Lois' unexpected teary eyed-ness is making a lot more sense to me now and it's definitely sitting better with me as well! :D...I'd give you all karma if I could! :)

[Fallen One]

I'll state my thoughts on the other Clois scenes in a bit but I wanted to concentrate on the loft scene first. If I added all these thoughts to my upcoming review it'd last take up the whole page.

One word: Wow. There is so much going on in this one scene. Lois' facial expressions reveals the entire episode plot to you in just a couple of minutes.

Clark is staring out of the window in thought about his soulmate. Lois walks up the stairs and she has this nervous look on her face. Why is she nervous? Two reasons:

The last time she was with Clark she lost control of her emotions and let her guard down, and now Clark has seen jealousy in her. And the second reason.. because she now knows for a fact that Clark feels something for her, because of the things Maxima said to him and the way Clark ran after her. She has to be thinking.. 'how am I going to face Clark after this?'

Then we pan back to Clark, then back to Lois and she gets this thoughtful look on her face. The things Maxima said to her had to have been running through her mind.

Then..she clears her throat to alert Clark that she's in the room. When has Lois been so subtle, so shy? You could almost hear her stomach in knots.

She tries to relax things with the chatter. She tells Clark if he's worried about the editor taking his story not to, because Maxima has vanished. She so knew that Tess or a DP story was the last thing on Clark's mind. She's diverting him away from the obvious matter at hand. Luckily Clark goes along with it and mentions that Maxima may return and Lois is all too eager to answer that she'll be ready for her when she does.

Clark moves towards her and thanks for her stopping him and Maxima from going further.. and you see this change in Lois' disposition. She rocks to and fro like she's antcy. She's thisclose from having her emotions come up, but she accepts his thanks.

And then to top that off.. Clark stirs the convo toward the one thing Lois wasn't eager to discuss- Maxima's observations. Lois gets visibly nervous and asks Clark what did she say to him. She doesn't really want Clark to answer that, but she wants to know if Maxima told him the same things she told her.

Clark lets her off the hook by telling her that Maxima told her that she (Maxima) was his soulmate. You then see a pause of relief on Lois' face before she rebukes Maxima's claims. She lets out a little sigh as she tells Clark that he can do better than Maxima.

Clark tells her that he knows but that it got him to thinking. Then he mentions Chloe's letter and how her feelings were really intense. The camera flashes back to Lois and she is intently watching his every move and listening to his every word as if she is nervous that Clark was going to say that he was attracted to Chloe. And honestly, I thought I saw Lois on the verge of tears as she listened.

But Clark puts away those doubts when he goes on to ask what if his soulmate comes along and he is too blind to see it. Then.. Lois face goes from anxiety and almost on the verge of tears.. to happiness. She blinks her eyes a couple of times as if she is trying to struggling to hold back what she really wants to say. Then tells Clark that when the right girl comes along, he'll know.

She so wanted to tell Clark what Maxima said. She wants him to know that he is looking right at his soulmate, but she holds it all in.

Clark asks her what Maxima told her and.. Lois lights up. She thinks about telling him but decides to change the topic. And Clark totally realized that she was holding something back from him. But before he can press the issue Lois makes a quick exit.

Clark calls after her and she turns around with a nervous look again, but Clark asks her to move back in. She would have said yes in a heartbeat before all the Maxima stuff, but she now knows without a doubt that things are changing between she and Clark and she declines.

Why tempt fate? And then the wink? She's got one over on Clark, and he doesn't know what she knows.. yet. But she does! And she doesn't want to do anything to jeopardize what is happening between them.

Just an awesome awesome scene. Full of depth and emotion. Mature, beautiful, and with the perfect music.

[amberdawn]

Cedric, have I told you I love you? :lol: :p

[AndiGirl]

It is a great question and as I said, I'll have to watch the episode again to get a better handle for it, but I still think I could see Lois a little verklempt at Clark mirroring her feelings. This is Clark, the only one who's able to get past the Lane barricade. Why wouldn't she show some sensitivity? She may be a concrete wall outside but we know there's a big ole marshmallow interior. And again, she's with Clark, who can draw her out without even trying.

Off topic, re my name: don't forget the s at the end of geminis. I'm a Spanish speaking twin born in the zodiac sign Gemini; Geminis in Spanish. I believe there is a Gemini on the boards as well, but we're two different people. But I don't have a problem with being called Ann either, to clear up the confusion.

Good points Ann...(I think I'll stick with Ann instead of Geminis...it's hard for me to add that last "S" :lol:)

[amberdawn]

Jade, Liana and Cedric all make good points that I can see being plausible. I wish things were more clear but we're always left to make up our own minds about what scenes mean.

[individuall]

lovely scene analysis Cedric :)

[AndiGirl]

You all make excellent points...and the last scene is making a bit more sense now. :)

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Excellent posts Jade and Cedric..I agree with you both. It's a bit strange to see this side of Lois, but it's also refreshing.

[geminis]

Cedric, have I told you I love you? :lol: :p

Cedric, have I told you I love you? :o:lol:

The female Clois fans are going to adore you for this post. Adore you, I say! That girlfriend of yours had better watch out! :lol:

[amberdawn]

Seems Cedric has many fans on here :lol:

[individuall]

You all make excellent points...and the last scene is making a bit more sense now. :)

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Excellent posts Jade and Cedric..I agree with you both. It's a bit strange to see this side of Lois, but it's also refreshing.

first off..I don't think I've had a chance to tell you how much I absolutely ADORE your avi :D

second: IA. It is a little refreshing and strange to see Lois' emotional side...But all of those wonderful explanations/points is definitely making me feel a whole lot better :)

[Fish1941]

Actually, I'm reveling in the Clois scenes this season. I've been a fan since they first met back in Season 4.

[kiariclois]

I voted for the first option of course. Still re-watching it :p

[wolverine316]

Clois rocked the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oqllcksmallville]

I voted for the first option of course. Still re-watching it :p
haha ! , me too . = )
i cant wait for Commited .
That looks the a good episode for Clois fans . ( y )
- still on that look Clark gave Lois when she came into the office .
hmmm , CLOIS . <3

[cygnusx1]

i wonder how lois will stumble upon the soulmate bracelet? should make a good scene

[lane06]

First of all this is the first time I've written on the thread but have been reading it since last year.. I'm a complete Clois fanatic since margot kidder and have come to love smallville ever since lois came.. I'm gald to learn there's a lot of Clois fanatics out there and looking forward to more clois scenes...Loved how erica delivers Lois.. Have you guys noticed that Lois seems to be jabbing Clark more often.. first one was in Plastique when they had the conversation about the Obit..

[Jade4813]

Hey, lane! Welcome to the boards! :D

[clarkbunny]

LOL, you guys are reading far too much into the Clois this episode.

Having rewatched here is my analysis of what happened.

Lois really does just think of Clark as a friend, she definitely isn't in love with him, although she does have some feelings for him that she hasn't acknowledged.

At the beginning of the episode when she is telling Clark he needs more of a wild cherry girlfriend than a Lana-vanilla one she is just trying to be a good a friend and to get Clark to stop moping over Lana. Similar to her giving Clark the application form for the DP.

She is not annoyed to hear of Lana 'cos she wants to be with Clark herself, she is annoyed 'cos she is fed of hearing/seeing him moping over her. We all know Lois isn't too good at dealing with feelings - she's more of a doer, so she wants to do something to make Clark feel better as opposed to providing a shoulder to cry on - hence suggesting he should get back out there and find another more snarky girlfriend.

When the wild cherry girl actually finds Clark and Lois is confronted with seeing Clark doing what she just suggested she is taken aback.

Even though she suggested it she is surprised by her own reaction to seeing Clark with another woman. She is insanely jealous and gets angry at Clark but she doesn't actually realise why she is so angry. While she is in the car you see her reasoning with herself trying to deny that it bothers her to see Clark with someone else and she really does believe it as she doesn't see Clark in that way or at least she didn't think she did.

When Maxima points out that Clark and Lois have a connection, Lois doesn't respond as it is the first time that she acknowledges that maybe that might be true.

In the loft when they talk she was a little worried when Clark said Maxima said some strange things to him. She was worried about feeling awkward if Clark mentioned that Maxima said they had a connection. When Clark asked about not recognising his soul mate, I think Lois' response was as a genuine friend and not because she felt SHE was his soul mate. She is not in love with Clark yet. The reason she witheld the details of what Maxima said to her is because she has only just acknowledged that there may be some truth in that she has some feelings for Clark and she didn't want to make things awkward for herself and Clark by letting him know it.

Whilst at the beginning of the show Lois was fishing to stay at the farm with Clark by the end of the program she had decided against it as she felt it was best to keep her distance from Clark to prevent complicating matters further between them.

To summarise where they stand currently.

Clark is none the wiser as to why Lois reacted like she did to seeing him with Maxima. You could tell he was genuinely confused by her reaction. Clark has not acknowledged any feelings for Lois beyond friendship.

Lois has acknowledged that she may have some feelings for Clark but she wants to keep that to herself and continue as friends. She is not in love with Clark and she does feel they are soul mates.

[eas]

To summarise where they stand currently.

Clark is none the wiser as to why Lois reacted like she did to seeing him with Maxima. You could tell he was genuinely confused by her reaction. Clark has not acknowledged any feelings for Lois beyond friendship.

Lois has acknowledged that she may have some feelings for Clark but she wants to keep that to herself and continue as friends. She is not in love with Clark and she does feel they are soul mates.


I agree with most of your summary - except I do think that Lois was a bit sad when Clark said that he was afraid that his soulmate would be there and he wouldn't even know it - because he had just told her that Chloe's feelings for him were pretty intense. She closed the chapter by saying that when he met his soulmate, he'd know it. So she basically removed herself from that category on purpose. I think she has a lot of reasons to not pursue something with Clark and now she's given herself another reason.

I also think that Clark is a lot more aware of his changing feelings for Lois than we'd think -- I think we learned that in "Toxic". He's not ready to acknowledge it and he doesn't want to know what's going on, either.

I do think, though, that things are going a lot more slowly for them than folks think... there's going to be a lot of denial from both for quite awhile, I think.

[lane06]

Hey, lane! Welcome to the boards! :D

Thanks Jade ! looking forward to hearing more of Clois from you guys..:D

[AndiGirl]

first off..I don't think I've had a chance to tell you how much I absolutely ADORE your avi :D

second: IA. It is a little refreshing and strange to see Lois' emotional side...But all of those wonderful explanations/points is definitely making me feel a whole lot better :)

Why thank you dear!! I love yours as well!! Thats by far one of my favorite Clois moments...hopefully she will get to do his tie for the wedding as well?? :p

I agree, it was just strange to see so much of her emotional side....since we used to get it once a year! :lol: but I'm learning to like it. :)

[Fallen One]

Cedric, have I told you I love you? :lol: :p

Yeah but I'm starting to think its because of my 98 degrees album collection.



Cedric, have I told you I love you? :o:lol:

The female Clois fans are going to adore you for this post. Adore you, I say! That girlfriend of yours had better watch out! :lol:


Pfft, Ann you should see the looks I get from the ladies when I wear my leather pants to the Post Office. I get free cardboard boxes and tape.

[miks]

The clois, you mean the run for your life it's raining anvils? Luckily I was smart enough to not get hit by any of them. In all seriousness though, it was tough to watch. I mean let's bring in Maxima so she can tell everyone that somehow, somewhere, someway Clois have this insanely intense bond, that even when she was working her charms Lois pulled him away? Really? Wow I must have missed those episodes. If I'm not mistaken Lana has always had that hold on him, oh but wait, that was when this show was Smallville and character development was somewhat important.

[Paty26]

The clois scenes were amazing!!!! I need more of them!!!:D

[eas]

I'll state my thoughts on the other Clois scenes in a bit but I wanted to concentrate on the loft scene first. If I added all these thoughts to my upcoming review it'd last take up the whole page.

One word: Wow. There is so much going on in this one scene. Lois' facial expressions reveals the entire episode plot to you in just a couple of minutes.

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But Clark puts away those doubts when he goes on to ask what if his soulmate comes along and he is too blind to see it. Then.. Lois face goes from anxiety and almost on the verge of tears.. to happiness. She blinks her eyes a couple of times as if she is trying to struggling to hold back what she really wants to say. Then tells Clark that when the right girl comes along, he'll know.

She so wanted to tell Clark what Maxima said. She wants him to know that he is looking right at his soulmate, but she holds it all in.

Clark asks her what Maxima told her and.. Lois lights up. She thinks about telling him but decides to change the topic. And Clark totally realized that she was holding something back from him. But before he can press the issue Lois makes a quick exit.

Clark calls after her and she turns around with a nervous look again, but Clark asks her to move back in. She would have said yes in a heartbeat before all the Maxima stuff, but she now knows without a doubt that things are changing between she and Clark and she declines.

Why tempt fate? And then the wink? She's got one over on Clark, and he doesn't know what she knows.. yet. But she does! And she doesn't want to do anything to jeopardize what is happening between them.

Just an awesome awesome scene. Full of depth and emotion. Mature, beautiful, and with the perfect music.

Wow... well said. I also noticed how intently she was watching him during his mention of Chloe & you're right that she was VERY nervous about what Maxima told him... like, did Maxima tell Clark that she was attracted to him? And, then, she was relieved that Clark heard something different than she did.

I don't know, though, if Lois had decided they're meant to be, at this time. I'm thinking that the reason why she turned Clark down was because she has to come to terms with her conflicting feelings and she knows that it'll be too awkward to be around a guy she may have a crush on. But does she know, at this moment, that they're fated to be together? I don't think so... I don't think that Lois believed Maxima to that extent.

[BULLITT]

They really nailed it. Great chemistry between them. The last scene in the barn, was tooth sore sweet.